You do not have enough Respect Points to post in this topic.
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:37:26 PM
well i would not say its not my cup of tea i have heard some stuff that i really like.but i would definatly say THIS IS MY CUP OF TEA.HELEEELLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH (the video.lol)CRRRRRRAAAAANNNNNNKKKKK ITTTTTTTTT COOOOMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:26:14 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
LOL! No offense taken hellrider,black metal has never really been your cup of tea as almost every true black metal band has this style of vocals,high pitched cackling screams like Dead(r.i.p.) from old Mayhem,Nocturno Culto from Darkthrone,Abbath from Immortal,Nattefrost from Carpathian Forest,ect.,..ect...it all stems from Quarthon(r.i.p.) from "Bathory".
hellrider 31038 wrote:
yooohhhhh COOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEERRRRR yeah thats pretty hardcore man.lol.no offence man but not to keen on the volcals
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
But of course mighty hellrider....Judas Priest may tear at the skull but now this is something that "rips your face off". This is not "noise" this is talented black metal from a band that was once great....Enthroned 2004 "Crimson Legions"...listen to this entire track hellrider.....this entire album kicks fucking ass and this song fucking crushes the Jehovah spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:57:27 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
would you happen to like something that
TOTAL FUC?EN RIPS YOUR FACE OFF COOOOMMMMMMMMAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDEEEEEERRRRRRR AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.RUSH OF POWER.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah I know Freeze,your right.But I still would rather not even see the band if I got a kick ass album.Take the Painkiller tour,they didn't come to Seattle on that tour,but I didn't care because I got a kick ass album.I would rather have a great album and not even see the band.Other people don't see it this way,as the majority of fans want to grab a six pack and hear Breaking The Law for the umteenth time,so that is just not for me. I'm not interested in seeing the band live really,I'm interested in hearing something new and kick ass from them.But if I want a band that cranks out album after album,I'll have Saxon to thrive on then lol!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
I see your point man but I figure Priest tours so much because they are legends and people want to see them. They have put out SO much material that a Priest song is everywhere you look. Touring keeps the band close to the fans and I would think that is why they are so into it. Of course, this is all conjecture on my part but it does make sense when you think about it.
I read something once where Glenn mentioned that the band has an abundance of material and always does, even when they finish an album. Putting out another is likely not high on their list since they have so much material available. I think he said they always have a few songs that do not make the album so they just shelve them. Things like concept albums are more important to them since it offers them a chance to do something different and does not include old or pre-written material. The fact that the record label wants new albums is clear by virtue of the "live" release.
Priest have earned the right to do it their way, when they choose. I get that. As for what they may or may not "owe" us, I figure they try to meet that obligation by touring so much.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:27:40 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The thing that stings me with Nostradamus is that the day they released it, of course I didn't like it,but I knew that it would be 4 fucking LONG years before we got another studio album from this band that is the slowest band at releasing studio material!!!! Fuckin A man,look at Saxon yet again,they released Lionheart in 2004,they released The Inner Sanctum in 2007 but that was only because Biff's house burned down to the ground in France,that was the ONLY reason they waited that long to release The Inner Sanctum in March 2007,but they released "Into The Labyrinth" in January 2009 so thats not even 2 years apart!!!
They will probably release ANOTHER studio album BEFORE Judas Priest releases thier next studio album.Saxon are able to do this because thier tours are much much shorter than Priests,I just wish Priest would not tour as much so that they could focus on releasing new material.I would rather have a brand new LP and miss the concert than wait 4 long years just so I could see the band.Give us more music!!!
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:28:49 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
I understand that HB. I guess what I am saying is, I understand where Max is coming from as far as what has been offered over the last few years. If one is inclined to want a "heavier" sound, the likes of which JD, 'Rider and Max have been discussing, then one could make the argument that Nostra was "selfish" or at the very least not what they were looking for in an album, yet there are an abundance of albums that offer the same songs from "glory years" that have simply been re-packaged and offered as various "Best Ofs". I get that.
Like you, I do not think it is some calculated effort on the band's part to seperate us from our money by playing on our devotion. I would be more inclined to believe that it is a marketing ploy by management or the record label. I just cannot picture Glenn sitting by the fire at his 150 year old, oak desk in the "parlor" of his estate, wearing a visor and monacle and tapping on an adding machine with stacks of gold coins in front of him as he totals up all his earnings from the hapless "sheep" that continue to purchase his re-hashed material in fancy new packages.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:28:32 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:48:48 PM
Edited at: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:36:42 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:33:19 PM
Bathory - Massacre - 1985!!!! Although Bathory came out in 1983,this album "Under The Sign Of The Black mark"(1985)was the first album that had what would later be "norwegian black metal vocals". Euronymous and Dead worshiped this album and Quarthon's vocals...and obvoisly this album is what influenced the norwegian black metal scene with bands like Mayhem,Darkthrone,Burzum,Immortal,Emperor,Gorgoroth,Carpathian Forest and other bands that followed after them.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:26:14 PM
LOL! No offense taken hellrider,black metal has never really been your cup of tea as almost every true black metal band has this style of vocals,high pitched cackling screams like Dead(r.i.p.) from old Mayhem,Nocturno Culto from Darkthrone,Abbath from Immortal,Nattefrost from Carpathian Forest,ect.,..ect...it all stems from Quarthon(r.i.p.) from "Bathory".
yooohhhhh COOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEERRRRR yeah thats pretty hardcore man.lol.no offence man but not to keen on the volcals
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
But of course mighty hellrider....Judas Priest may tear at the skull but now this is something that "rips your face off". This is not "noise" this is talented black metal from a band that was once great....Enthroned 2004 "Crimson Legions"...listen to this entire track hellrider.....this entire album kicks fucking ass and this song fucking crushes the Jehovah spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:57:27 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
would you happen to like something that
TOTAL FUC?EN RIPS YOUR FACE OFF COOOOMMMMMMMMAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDEEEEEERRRRRRR AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.RUSH OF POWER.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah I know Freeze,your right.But I still would rather not even see the band if I got a kick ass album.Take the Painkiller tour,they didn't come to Seattle on that tour,but I didn't care because I got a kick ass album.I would rather have a great album and not even see the band.Other people don't see it this way,as the majority of fans want to grab a six pack and hear Breaking The Law for the umteenth time,so that is just not for me. I'm not interested in seeing the band live really,I'm interested in hearing something new and kick ass from them.But if I want a band that cranks out album after album,I'll have Saxon to thrive on then lol!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
I see your point man but I figure Priest tours so much because they are legends and people want to see them. They have put out SO much material that a Priest song is everywhere you look. Touring keeps the band close to the fans and I would think that is why they are so into it. Of course, this is all conjecture on my part but it does make sense when you think about it.
I read something once where Glenn mentioned that the band has an abundance of material and always does, even when they finish an album. Putting out another is likely not high on their list since they have so much material available. I think he said they always have a few songs that do not make the album so they just shelve them. Things like concept albums are more important to them since it offers them a chance to do something different and does not include old or pre-written material. The fact that the record label wants new albums is clear by virtue of the "live" release.
Priest have earned the right to do it their way, when they choose. I get that. As for what they may or may not "owe" us, I figure they try to meet that obligation by touring so much.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:27:40 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The thing that stings me with Nostradamus is that the day they released it, of course I didn't like it,but I knew that it would be 4 fucking LONG years before we got another studio album from this band that is the slowest band at releasing studio material!!!! Fuckin A man,look at Saxon yet again,they released Lionheart in 2004,they released The Inner Sanctum in 2007 but that was only because Biff's house burned down to the ground in France,that was the ONLY reason they waited that long to release The Inner Sanctum in March 2007,but they released "Into The Labyrinth" in January 2009 so thats not even 2 years apart!!!
They will probably release ANOTHER studio album BEFORE Judas Priest releases thier next studio album.Saxon are able to do this because thier tours are much much shorter than Priests,I just wish Priest would not tour as much so that they could focus on releasing new material.I would rather have a brand new LP and miss the concert than wait 4 long years just so I could see the band.Give us more music!!!
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:28:49 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
I understand that HB. I guess what I am saying is, I understand where Max is coming from as far as what has been offered over the last few years. If one is inclined to want a "heavier" sound, the likes of which JD, 'Rider and Max have been discussing, then one could make the argument that Nostra was "selfish" or at the very least not what they were looking for in an album, yet there are an abundance of albums that offer the same songs from "glory years" that have simply been re-packaged and offered as various "Best Ofs". I get that.
Like you, I do not think it is some calculated effort on the band's part to seperate us from our money by playing on our devotion. I would be more inclined to believe that it is a marketing ploy by management or the record label. I just cannot picture Glenn sitting by the fire at his 150 year old, oak desk in the "parlor" of his estate, wearing a visor and monacle and tapping on an adding machine with stacks of gold coins in front of him as he totals up all his earnings from the hapless "sheep" that continue to purchase his re-hashed material in fancy new packages.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:28:32 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:48:48 PM
Edited at: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:36:42 AM
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:58:01 PM
yooohhhhh COOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEERRRRR yeah thats pretty hardcore man.lol.no offence man but not to keen on the volcals [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:35:23 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
But of course mighty hellrider....Judas Priest may tear at the skull but now this is something that "rips your face off". This is not "noise" this is talented black metal from a band that was once great....Enthroned 2004 "Crimson Legions"...listen to this entire track hellrider.....this entire album kicks fucking ass and this song fucking crushes the Jehovah spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:57:27 PM)
hellrider 31038 wrote:
would you happen to like something that
TOTAL FUC?EN RIPS YOUR FACE OFF COOOOMMMMMMMMAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDEEEEEERRRRRRR AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.RUSH OF POWER.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah I know Freeze,your right.But I still would rather not even see the band if I got a kick ass album.Take the Painkiller tour,they didn't come to Seattle on that tour,but I didn't care because I got a kick ass album.I would rather have a great album and not even see the band.Other people don't see it this way,as the majority of fans want to grab a six pack and hear Breaking The Law for the umteenth time,so that is just not for me. I'm not interested in seeing the band live really,I'm interested in hearing something new and kick ass from them.But if I want a band that cranks out album after album,I'll have Saxon to thrive on then lol!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
I see your point man but I figure Priest tours so much because they are legends and people want to see them. They have put out SO much material that a Priest song is everywhere you look. Touring keeps the band close to the fans and I would think that is why they are so into it. Of course, this is all conjecture on my part but it does make sense when you think about it.
I read something once where Glenn mentioned that the band has an abundance of material and always does, even when they finish an album. Putting out another is likely not high on their list since they have so much material available. I think he said they always have a few songs that do not make the album so they just shelve them. Things like concept albums are more important to them since it offers them a chance to do something different and does not include old or pre-written material. The fact that the record label wants new albums is clear by virtue of the "live" release.
Priest have earned the right to do it their way, when they choose. I get that. As for what they may or may not "owe" us, I figure they try to meet that obligation by touring so much.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:27:40 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The thing that stings me with Nostradamus is that the day they released it, of course I didn't like it,but I knew that it would be 4 fucking LONG years before we got another studio album from this band that is the slowest band at releasing studio material!!!! Fuckin A man,look at Saxon yet again,they released Lionheart in 2004,they released The Inner Sanctum in 2007 but that was only because Biff's house burned down to the ground in France,that was the ONLY reason they waited that long to release The Inner Sanctum in March 2007,but they released "Into The Labyrinth" in January 2009 so thats not even 2 years apart!!!
They will probably release ANOTHER studio album BEFORE Judas Priest releases thier next studio album.Saxon are able to do this because thier tours are much much shorter than Priests,I just wish Priest would not tour as much so that they could focus on releasing new material.I would rather have a brand new LP and miss the concert than wait 4 long years just so I could see the band.Give us more music!!!
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:28:49 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
I understand that HB. I guess what I am saying is, I understand where Max is coming from as far as what has been offered over the last few years. If one is inclined to want a "heavier" sound, the likes of which JD, 'Rider and Max have been discussing, then one could make the argument that Nostra was "selfish" or at the very least not what they were looking for in an album, yet there are an abundance of albums that offer the same songs from "glory years" that have simply been re-packaged and offered as various "Best Ofs". I get that.
Like you, I do not think it is some calculated effort on the band's part to seperate us from our money by playing on our devotion. I would be more inclined to believe that it is a marketing ploy by management or the record label. I just cannot picture Glenn sitting by the fire at his 150 year old, oak desk in the "parlor" of his estate, wearing a visor and monacle and tapping on an adding machine with stacks of gold coins in front of him as he totals up all his earnings from the hapless "sheep" that continue to purchase his re-hashed material in fancy new packages.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:28:32 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:48:48 PM
Edited at: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:36:42 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:15:32 PM
I know Craig,I was just "messin' with ya!! lol!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:29:50 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I know very well that you were not trying to dog my opinion, so I'm not butt hurt at all. I'm an open-minded person and I was simply asking you for some recommendations. That's all. I will definitely check out Black Foot and Foghat. What else do you recommend? I know a shitload of bands, but I don't know everything. I'm always on the lookout for top notch metal and rock. You see? I'm not butt hurt at all.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Why? Are you supposed to "shut me down" had I not named any "biker" bands from the 70's or 80's??(lol) Just because there are not an abundance of "biker bands" doesn't make "Circus Of Power" a great band to me,maybe not to you.I wasn't trying to dog your opinion as obviously you are butt hurt(lol!)but man they really don't sound like what would be "biker rock" ...I just can't see any bikers throwing down thier Motorhead albums and pumping what sounds to me as a late 80's Guns N Roses styled band,and to me Guns N Roses are not "biker music".To me biker music would be Motorhead,Ted Nugent,Black Foot,Foghat and shit like that,but this band doesn't cross my ears as something a biker dude would be rollin,thats all.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I like them. You hate them. That's fine. We all have our personal opinions.
You know what, J.D.? I challenge YOU to give me some titles of songs that sound like real biker metal/rock to your ears (apart from Motörhead). And I'm not talking about modern stuff, I'm talking about old-school stuff from the eighties or seventies. Give me some titles of songs or albums I should check out and who knows... maybe you'll get me into a new band. (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:13:39 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Wow,that really doesn't "sound" like "biker rock and roll" it sounds like a washed up MTV hair band that wants to be "Axl Rose" and Guns N Roses to me and my ears.No offense,but that is not good biker rock.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've never been a big fan of Motörhead. I really respect them, but I never got into their music. That doesnt mean I dislike their genre. I just don't like Lemmy's voice. I always listen to the New York band Circus Of Power if I want to hear some old-school heavy biker rock n' roll:
Edited at: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:38:23 PM
[Craig Wagenhoffer] Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:29:50 AM
I know very well that you were not trying to dog my opinion, so I'm not butt hurt at all. I'm an open-minded person and I was simply asking you for some recommendations. That's all. I will definitely check out Black Foot and Foghat. What else do you recommend? I know a shitload of bands, but I don't know everything. I'm always on the lookout for top notch metal and rock. You see? I'm not butt hurt at all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:28:28 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Why? Are you supposed to "shut me down" had I not named any "biker" bands from the 70's or 80's??(lol) Just because there are not an abundance of "biker bands" doesn't make "Circus Of Power" a great band to me,maybe not to you.I wasn't trying to dog your opinion as obviously you are butt hurt(lol!)but man they really don't sound like what would be "biker rock" ...I just can't see any bikers throwing down thier Motorhead albums and pumping what sounds to me as a late 80's Guns N Roses styled band,and to me Guns N Roses are not "biker music".To me biker music would be Motorhead,Ted Nugent,Black Foot,Foghat and shit like that,but this band doesn't cross my ears as something a biker dude would be rollin,thats all.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I like them. You hate them. That's fine. We all have our personal opinions.
You know what, J.D.? I challenge YOU to give me some titles of songs that sound like real biker metal/rock to your ears (apart from Motörhead). And I'm not talking about modern stuff, I'm talking about old-school stuff from the eighties or seventies. Give me some titles of songs or albums I should check out and who knows... maybe you'll get me into a new band. (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:13:39 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Wow,that really doesn't "sound" like "biker rock and roll" it sounds like a washed up MTV hair band that wants to be "Axl Rose" and Guns N Roses to me and my ears.No offense,but that is not good biker rock.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've never been a big fan of Motörhead. I really respect them, but I never got into their music. That doesnt mean I dislike their genre. I just don't like Lemmy's voice. I always listen to the New York band Circus Of Power if I want to hear some old-school heavy biker rock n' roll:
Edited at: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:38:23 PM
[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:46:44 AM
Steppenwolf are the best biker band. They have lots of cool songs.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:35:23 AM
But of course mighty hellrider....Judas Priest may tear at the skull but now this is something that "rips your face off". This is not "noise" this is talented black metal from a band that was once great....Enthroned 2004 "Crimson Legions"...listen to this entire track hellrider.....this entire album kicks fucking ass and this song fucking crushes the Jehovah spirit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
would you happen to like something that
TOTAL FUC?EN RIPS YOUR FACE OFF COOOOMMMMMMMMAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDEEEEEERRRRRRR AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.RUSH OF POWER.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah I know Freeze,your right.But I still would rather not even see the band if I got a kick ass album.Take the Painkiller tour,they didn't come to Seattle on that tour,but I didn't care because I got a kick ass album.I would rather have a great album and not even see the band.Other people don't see it this way,as the majority of fans want to grab a six pack and hear Breaking The Law for the umteenth time,so that is just not for me. I'm not interested in seeing the band live really,I'm interested in hearing something new and kick ass from them.But if I want a band that cranks out album after album,I'll have Saxon to thrive on then lol!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
I see your point man but I figure Priest tours so much because they are legends and people want to see them. They have put out SO much material that a Priest song is everywhere you look. Touring keeps the band close to the fans and I would think that is why they are so into it. Of course, this is all conjecture on my part but it does make sense when you think about it.
I read something once where Glenn mentioned that the band has an abundance of material and always does, even when they finish an album. Putting out another is likely not high on their list since they have so much material available. I think he said they always have a few songs that do not make the album so they just shelve them. Things like concept albums are more important to them since it offers them a chance to do something different and does not include old or pre-written material. The fact that the record label wants new albums is clear by virtue of the "live" release.
Priest have earned the right to do it their way, when they choose. I get that. As for what they may or may not "owe" us, I figure they try to meet that obligation by touring so much.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:27:40 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The thing that stings me with Nostradamus is that the day they released it, of course I didn't like it,but I knew that it would be 4 fucking LONG years before we got another studio album from this band that is the slowest band at releasing studio material!!!! Fuckin A man,look at Saxon yet again,they released Lionheart in 2004,they released The Inner Sanctum in 2007 but that was only because Biff's house burned down to the ground in France,that was the ONLY reason they waited that long to release The Inner Sanctum in March 2007,but they released "Into The Labyrinth" in January 2009 so thats not even 2 years apart!!!
They will probably release ANOTHER studio album BEFORE Judas Priest releases thier next studio album.Saxon are able to do this because thier tours are much much shorter than Priests,I just wish Priest would not tour as much so that they could focus on releasing new material.I would rather have a brand new LP and miss the concert than wait 4 long years just so I could see the band.Give us more music!!!
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:28:49 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
I understand that HB. I guess what I am saying is, I understand where Max is coming from as far as what has been offered over the last few years. If one is inclined to want a "heavier" sound, the likes of which JD, 'Rider and Max have been discussing, then one could make the argument that Nostra was "selfish" or at the very least not what they were looking for in an album, yet there are an abundance of albums that offer the same songs from "glory years" that have simply been re-packaged and offered as various "Best Ofs". I get that.
Like you, I do not think it is some calculated effort on the band's part to seperate us from our money by playing on our devotion. I would be more inclined to believe that it is a marketing ploy by management or the record label. I just cannot picture Glenn sitting by the fire at his 150 year old, oak desk in the "parlor" of his estate, wearing a visor and monacle and tapping on an adding machine with stacks of gold coins in front of him as he totals up all his earnings from the hapless "sheep" that continue to purchase his re-hashed material in fancy new packages.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:28:32 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:48:48 PM
Edited at: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:36:42 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:28:28 AM
Why? Are you supposed to "shut me down" had I not named any "biker" bands from the 70's or 80's??(lol) Just because there are not an abundance of "biker bands" doesn't make "Circus Of Power" a great band to me,maybe not to you.I wasn't trying to dog your opinion as obviously you are butt hurt(lol!)but man they really don't sound like what would be "biker rock" ...I just can't see any bikers throwing down thier Motorhead albums and pumping what sounds to me as a late 80's Guns N Roses styled band,and to me Guns N Roses are not "biker music".To me biker music would be Motorhead,Ted Nugent,Black Foot,Foghat and shit like that,but this band doesn't cross my ears as something a biker dude would be rollin,thats all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:25:52 PM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I like them. You hate them. That's fine. We all have our personal opinions.
You know what, J.D.? I challenge YOU to give me some titles of songs that sound like real biker metal/rock to your ears (apart from Motörhead). And I'm not talking about modern stuff, I'm talking about old-school stuff from the eighties or seventies. Give me some titles of songs or albums I should check out and who knows... maybe you'll get me into a new band. (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:13:39 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Wow,that really doesn't "sound" like "biker rock and roll" it sounds like a washed up MTV hair band that wants to be "Axl Rose" and Guns N Roses to me and my ears.No offense,but that is not good biker rock.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've never been a big fan of Motörhead. I really respect them, but I never got into their music. That doesnt mean I dislike their genre. I just don't like Lemmy's voice. I always listen to the New York band Circus Of Power if I want to hear some old-school heavy biker rock n' roll:
Edited at: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:38:23 PM
[K2M] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:10:58 PM
Yes. I am soo bad baby, I dont Care
[K2M] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:08:34 PM
Another perfect day Guitarist Brian Robertson From Thin Lizzy. Phil and lemmy were friends.
I like 1916. I like the way the first tune charges out. A good MotorHead record
Thanks Edited at: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:09:33 PM
[Craig Wagenhoffer] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:25:52 PM
I like them. You hate them. That's fine. We all have our personal opinions.
You know what, J.D.? I challenge YOU to give me some titles of songs that sound like real biker metal/rock to your ears (apart from Motörhead). And I'm not talking about modern stuff, I'm talking about old-school stuff from the eighties or seventies. Give me some titles of songs or albums I should check out and who knows... maybe you'll get me into a new band. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:13:39 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Wow,that really doesn't "sound" like "biker rock and roll" it sounds like a washed up MTV hair band that wants to be "Axl Rose" and Guns N Roses to me and my ears.No offense,but that is not good biker rock.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've never been a big fan of Motörhead. I really respect them, but I never got into their music. That doesnt mean I dislike their genre. I just don't like Lemmy's voice. I always listen to the New York band Circus Of Power if I want to hear some old-school heavy biker rock n' roll:
Edited at: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:38:23 PM
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:07:10 PM
looking for (EXPECTING) from a METAL BAND. BRING THE HARD CORE PRIEST
DEFENDING THE FAITH JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL
HELL YEAH WITH MY STUDDED WRISTBANDS ON AND FIST IN THE AIR.
I understand that HB. I guess what I am saying is, I understand where Max is coming from as far as what has been offered over the last few years. If one is inclined to want a "heavier" sound, the likes of which JD, 'Rider and Max have been discussing, then one could make the argument that Nostra was "selfish" or at the very least not what they were looking for in an album, yet there are an abundance of albums that offer the same songs from "glory years" that have simply been re-packaged and offered as various "Best Ofs". I get that.
Like you, I do not think it is some calculated effort on the band's part to seperate us from our money by playing on our devotion. I would be more inclined to believe that it is a marketing ploy by management or the record label. I just cannot picture Glenn sitting by the fire at his 150 year old, oak desk in the "parlor" of his estate, wearing a visor and monacle and tapping on an adding machine with stacks of gold coins in front of him as he totals up all his earnings from the hapless "sheep" that continue to purchase his re-hashed material in fancy new packages.
Edited at: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:08:23 PM
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:57:27 PM
would you happen to like something that
TOTAL FUC?EN RIPS YOUR FACE OFF COOOOMMMMMMMMAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDDEEEEEERRRRRRR AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.RUSH OF POWER. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:26:44 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yeah I know Freeze,your right.But I still would rather not even see the band if I got a kick ass album.Take the Painkiller tour,they didn't come to Seattle on that tour,but I didn't care because I got a kick ass album.I would rather have a great album and not even see the band.Other people don't see it this way,as the majority of fans want to grab a six pack and hear Breaking The Law for the umteenth time,so that is just not for me. I'm not interested in seeing the band live really,I'm interested in hearing something new and kick ass from them.But if I want a band that cranks out album after album,I'll have Saxon to thrive on then lol!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
I see your point man but I figure Priest tours so much because they are legends and people want to see them. They have put out SO much material that a Priest song is everywhere you look. Touring keeps the band close to the fans and I would think that is why they are so into it. Of course, this is all conjecture on my part but it does make sense when you think about it.
I read something once where Glenn mentioned that the band has an abundance of material and always does, even when they finish an album. Putting out another is likely not high on their list since they have so much material available. I think he said they always have a few songs that do not make the album so they just shelve them. Things like concept albums are more important to them since it offers them a chance to do something different and does not include old or pre-written material. The fact that the record label wants new albums is clear by virtue of the "live" release.
Priest have earned the right to do it their way, when they choose. I get that. As for what they may or may not "owe" us, I figure they try to meet that obligation by touring so much.
(Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:27:40 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
The thing that stings me with Nostradamus is that the day they released it, of course I didn't like it,but I knew that it would be 4 fucking LONG years before we got another studio album from this band that is the slowest band at releasing studio material!!!! Fuckin A man,look at Saxon yet again,they released Lionheart in 2004,they released The Inner Sanctum in 2007 but that was only because Biff's house burned down to the ground in France,that was the ONLY reason they waited that long to release The Inner Sanctum in March 2007,but they released "Into The Labyrinth" in January 2009 so thats not even 2 years apart!!!
They will probably release ANOTHER studio album BEFORE Judas Priest releases thier next studio album.Saxon are able to do this because thier tours are much much shorter than Priests,I just wish Priest would not tour as much so that they could focus on releasing new material.I would rather have a brand new LP and miss the concert than wait 4 long years just so I could see the band.Give us more music!!!
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:28:49 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
I understand that HB. I guess what I am saying is, I understand where Max is coming from as far as what has been offered over the last few years. If one is inclined to want a "heavier" sound, the likes of which JD, 'Rider and Max have been discussing, then one could make the argument that Nostra was "selfish" or at the very least not what they were looking for in an album, yet there are an abundance of albums that offer the same songs from "glory years" that have simply been re-packaged and offered as various "Best Ofs". I get that.
Like you, I do not think it is some calculated effort on the band's part to seperate us from our money by playing on our devotion. I would be more inclined to believe that it is a marketing ploy by management or the record label. I just cannot picture Glenn sitting by the fire at his 150 year old, oak desk in the "parlor" of his estate, wearing a visor and monacle and tapping on an adding machine with stacks of gold coins in front of him as he totals up all his earnings from the hapless "sheep" that continue to purchase his re-hashed material in fancy new packages.
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:28:32 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:48:48 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:34:43 PM
Going To Brazil!!! Who couldn't like this song if they like rock and roll?? Flyin' down to Rio we're going to Brazil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A+ !!!!!!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:31:30 PM
Nightmare/The Dream time? Are you kiddding me? lol! I LOVE THIS FUCKIN TRACK!!! Not very rock and roll? So what?? lol!! This track is awsome!!! This just goes to show all of our musical differences.Some people like Nostradamus,others don't.I hate it. Its the same thing here....just a difference of opinion,thats all. Now that "Love Me Forever" track is the one that sucks. But those 9 tracks I mentioned are excellent Motorhead...."Make My Day"....."Shut You Down".... those are classic Motorhead tracks Joe,can't see how a Motorhead fan wouldn't like those tracks,but I respect your opinion as well so.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bazookajoe_666 from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:22:46 PM)
Bazookajoe_666 wrote:
What about that Nightmare/The dream Time song? You like that? It sounds like it belongs in a really cheesy 80s horror movie. Not very rock n roll.
But yeah looking at the tracklisting it is better then I thought. Its just the horribleness of those songs that suck that ruins it for me haha.
Normally Motorhead albums work like this.
4 or 5 sweet fucking songs.
The rest are medicore. Usually about war, dissing god, etc.
Thats been there standard for DECADES haha.
On this one though, those songs that are bad and so bad it ruins the album for me.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Oh no way Joe,are you kidding?? LOL!! 1916 is a great album to my ears:
1. The One To Sing The Blues
2.I'm So Bad(Baby I Don't Care)
3.No Voices In The Sky
4.Going To Brazil
5.Nightmare/The Dream Time
7..Angel City
8.Make My Day
9.Ramones
10..Shut You Down
Those 9 tracks off of 1990's album "1916" are excellent Motorhead,totally raw production and classic Motorhead tracks!! 11 songs off of this album and the only 2 songs that suck are track # 6(Love Me Forever) and the last track #11 "1916". So to me this album is awsome dude,just goes to show all of our opinions vary. But I'm definately sticking up for this excellent Motorhead album and would recomend any Motorhead fans to buy this album.Just don't buy or listen to "March Or Die"..that album sucks. lol!
Bazookajoe_666 wrote:
Dont forget 1916.
That album is fucking horrible.
Give or take like 4 or 5 songs.
[Bazookajoe_666] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:22:46 PM
What about that Nightmare/The dream Time song? You like that? It sounds like it belongs in a really cheesy 80s horror movie. Not very rock n roll.
But yeah looking at the tracklisting it is better then I thought. Its just the horribleness of those songs that suck that ruins it for me haha.
Normally Motorhead albums work like this.
4 or 5 sweet fucking songs.
The rest are medicore. Usually about war, dissing god, etc.
Thats been there standard for DECADES haha.
On this one though, those songs that are bad and so bad it ruins the album for me.
Oh no way Joe,are you kidding?? LOL!! 1916 is a great album to my ears:
1. The One To Sing The Blues
2.I'm So Bad(Baby I Don't Care)
3.No Voices In The Sky
4.Going To Brazil
5.Nightmare/The Dream Time
7..Angel City
8.Make My Day
9.Ramones
10..Shut You Down
Those 9 tracks off of 1990's album "1916" are excellent Motorhead,totally raw production and classic Motorhead tracks!! 11 songs off of this album and the only 2 songs that suck are track # 6(Love Me Forever) and the last track #11 "1916". So to me this album is awsome dude,just goes to show all of our opinions vary. But I'm definately sticking up for this excellent Motorhead album and would recomend any Motorhead fans to buy this album.Just don't buy or listen to "March Or Die"..that album sucks. lol!
Bazookajoe_666 wrote:
Dont forget 1916.
That album is fucking horrible.
Give or take like 4 or 5 songs.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:13:39 PM
Wow,that really doesn't "sound" like "biker rock and roll" it sounds like a washed up MTV hair band that wants to be "Axl Rose" and Guns N Roses to me and my ears.No offense,but that is not good biker rock. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:15:18 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've never been a big fan of Motörhead. I really respect them, but I never got into their music. That doesnt mean I dislike their genre. I just don't like Lemmy's voice. I always listen to the New York band Circus Of Power if I want to hear some old-school heavy biker rock n' roll:
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:10:31 PM
Oh no way Joe,are you kidding?? LOL!! 1916 is a great album to my ears:
1. The One To Sing The Blues
2.I'm So Bad(Baby I Don't Care)
3.No Voices In The Sky
4.Going To Brazil
5.Nightmare/The Dream Time
7..Angel City
8.Make My Day
9.Ramones
10..Shut You Down
Those 9 tracks off of 1990's album "1916" are excellent Motorhead,totally raw production and classic Motorhead tracks!! 11 songs off of this album and the only 2 songs that suck are track # 6(Love Me Forever) and the last track #11 "1916". So to me this album is awsome dude,just goes to show all of our opinions vary. But I'm definately sticking up for this excellent Motorhead album and would recomend any Motorhead fans to buy this album.Just don't buy or listen to "March Or Die"..that album sucks. lol! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bazookajoe_666 from Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:49:59 AM)
Bazookajoe_666 wrote:
Dont forget 1916.
That album is fucking horrible.
Give or take like 4 or 5 songs.
[Craig Wagenhoffer] Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:15:18 AM
I've never been a big fan of Motörhead. I really respect them, but I never got into their music. That doesnt mean I dislike their genre. I just don't like Lemmy's voice. I always listen to the New York band Circus Of Power if I want to hear some old-school heavy biker rock n' roll:
