[Healer] Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:03:15 PM | |
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Well, I can definitely appreciate that people have different oppinions and might not like the new album but I just don't get how anyone can say there is no power behind the songs or that they just "trudge" along. I guess people reviewing just aren't musicians or something. Musicly I think this is their best production ever! I find the more Ilisten to it, which is a lot, I hear more and I get blown away all over again at the brilliance of these guys. Unfortunately I think a lot of these people won't give it more then a couple of listens which is a real shame. These guys are the Metal Gods! |
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[.] Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:02:56 PM | |
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From what I've heard of the album so far, and I still haven't heard anything beyond the VH1 leak, I don't think it is that bad except for that really awful wanking ballad I forgot the name of. If the band members were true to themselves and wrote all this stuff from Nostradamus being true to themselves and having fun doing it,then I guess it is ok.
I wasn't expecting Painkiller II, though I expected a sharper album, less keyboards and more attention to the instruments themselves, inspired rather than subjected to the concept.
In fact, I could do without Halford's vocals in most of the songs and wished he'd concentrate in quality rather than interrupting good instrumental moments. A concept album doesn't need to follow the rules that short songs usually go by.
By the sound of the synths and computerized jibba-jabba, it seems Judas Priest will soon launch their own videogame - Nostradamus - in which the central character must evade obstacles, kill puritans and gather enough cabbalistic books to be able to perform spells and incantations to save his hide and escape to the future - next level.
This he won't do alone, as two she-witches, strongly reminescent of KK Downing and Glen Tipton, will come to his aid when you press F1.
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[spapad] Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:18:47 PM | |
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Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion, but mine would differ from yours. I love the new album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Eternal Betrayer from Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:15:46 PM) | | Eternal Betrayer wrote: | | An interesting review of Nostradamus from Amazon.UK that I recently found and, I have to admit, so far, I'm tending to agree with.
A yawning epic, 19 Jun 2008
Having bought Judas Priest's albums as & when they have been released since 1980 I was looking forward to this release with both anticipation & trepidation . A concept album is something I do appreciate , if done well as in Queensryche's Operation : Mindcrime ; Nostradamus ,unfortunately , is something different . Of the 23 tracks , 9 are intros or segues , meaning that each track has a very similar beginning i.e Rob Halford singing softly over a rising single note ( synthesised or orchestral ) with a light arpeggio or strumming on either electric or acoustic guitar .
I am all for bands being adventurous & experimental but originality is also an important facet . Perhaps I was expecting this release to be leaning towards an Opeth or Porcupine Tree progression , what with the Nostradamus story being tackled . However , they seem to have gone in the other direction . The majority of the tracks are mid paced sludges that are almost indistinguishable from one another which , to my ears , sounded more like the current crop of European , female fronted , goth-rock bands . The ballad "Lost Love " is perhaps the worst JP song I have ever heard ( including the hiccup that was the Turbo album ). In fact ,if it were not for Rob Halford's distinctive vocals I would be hard pressed to identify the band as being Judas Priest .
It was only the title track , the penultimate song on the album , that actually sounded like a genuine Priest piece of heavy metal but by that stage one has had to endure 90 minutes of music that on each listening ( twice at the writing of this )I found myself suppressing yawns . Something I had never asscociated with a JP album .
The packaging of the super deluxe version is beautiful ( no exclusive poster in my copy though )& the artwork by Mark Wilkinson I found more impressive than the actual music within . It is obvious by the production values that a great deal of time & effort has gone into this recording but for me it is the actual songs that are important . Apart from "Visions" , which could very well be the single for this release , I could not recall a single melody or tune . Perhaps in a live setting the songs may mature , though apart from two or three tracks , I cannot see them working outside the context of the Nostradamus concept .
So if you are expecting classic Judas Priest riffs & melodies than this might not be for you . If you want 104 minutes of average modern Euro-metal with an interesting concept than dive right in . Unfortunately I can see "Nostradamus" sitting next to the above mentioned "Turbo" album in my JP collection with little or no rotation on my stereo in the coming years . |
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[Eternal Betrayer] Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:15:46 PM | |
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An interesting review of Nostradamus from Amazon.UK that I recently found and, I have to admit, so far, I'm tending to agree with.
A yawning epic, 19 Jun 2008
Having bought Judas Priest's albums as & when they have been released since 1980 I was looking forward to this release with both anticipation & trepidation . A concept album is something I do appreciate , if done well as in Queensryche's Operation : Mindcrime ; Nostradamus ,unfortunately , is something different . Of the 23 tracks , 9 are intros or segues , meaning that each track has a very similar beginning i.e Rob Halford singing softly over a rising single note ( synthesised or orchestral ) with a light arpeggio or strumming on either electric or acoustic guitar .
I am all for bands being adventurous & experimental but originality is also an important facet . Perhaps I was expecting this release to be leaning towards an Opeth or Porcupine Tree progression , what with the Nostradamus story being tackled . However , they seem to have gone in the other direction . The majority of the tracks are mid paced sludges that are almost indistinguishable from one another which , to my ears , sounded more like the current crop of European , female fronted , goth-rock bands . The ballad "Lost Love " is perhaps the worst JP song I have ever heard ( including the hiccup that was the Turbo album ). In fact ,if it were not for Rob Halford's distinctive vocals I would be hard pressed to identify the band as being Judas Priest .
It was only the title track , the penultimate song on the album , that actually sounded like a genuine Priest piece of heavy metal but by that stage one has had to endure 90 minutes of music that on each listening ( twice at the writing of this )I found myself suppressing yawns . Something I had never asscociated with a JP album .
The packaging of the super deluxe version is beautiful ( no exclusive poster in my copy though )& the artwork by Mark Wilkinson I found more impressive than the actual music within . It is obvious by the production values that a great deal of time & effort has gone into this recording but for me it is the actual songs that are important . Apart from "Visions" , which could very well be the single for this release , I could not recall a single melody or tune . Perhaps in a live setting the songs may mature , though apart from two or three tracks , I cannot see them working outside the context of the Nostradamus concept .
So if you are expecting classic Judas Priest riffs & melodies than this might not be for you . If you want 104 minutes of average modern Euro-metal with an interesting concept than dive right in . Unfortunately I can see "Nostradamus" sitting next to the above mentioned "Turbo" album in my JP collection with little or no rotation on my stereo in the coming years . |
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[Eternal Betrayer] Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:12:54 PM | |
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Is Nostradamus a better Priest album than British Steel, Unleashed In The East, Killing Machine, Screaming For Vengeance or Painkiller?
I think not! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brent Robinson from Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:34:34 AM) | | Brent Robinson wrote: | | I have to say that this was a very nice "surprise"!
Does anyone else out there think that after all is said and done for the boys, that music history will place this disc within the "Top 5" essential Priest discs? I have been listening to this none stop for the past week and think that this is a brilliant piece of work. It shows a lot of labour and thought went into this project and it was nice to see them taken out of their comfort zone and give us this result.
The first tracks that got to me were WAR - especially because I was geared up for a heavy take on this topic - yet they let Scott shine on this and went for mood. Excellent! Then it has to be NEW BEGINNINGS. Absolutely my favorite track so far - it just has a hypnotic feel to it. The rest are starting to gel as I find myself humming the verses and choruses during my everyday routines (always a good sign!).
I look forward to seeing if they actually plan on performing this from start to finish - it would be one tour for the history books, that much is certain. I hope that the positive feedback keeps on coming and that the rest of you are enjoying this disc as much as I am....
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[Before The Rage] Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:59:19 PM | |
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I only got the album today and listened to it once so far. It's definitely unlike every other Priest album, but I'm not sure if it's good or not. Next listen will be better, I hope.
Maybe I'll hear more variety throughout the songs next time, because this one time they all sounded too similar =/ |
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[dream theater] Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:50:16 PM | |
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I have to say that i'm really disappointed with this album.I have listened to this a few times,and there are only a couple of songs that i like.I guess i was hoping for something more.The songs just seem to drag on and on,with no power what so ever.Now this is just my opinion but after waiting this long for new material,i was hoping for something much better. |
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[Healer] Sunday, June 22, 2008 2:59:30 PM | |
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I'm with you! Alone is definitely one of my favorite songs. gives me goosebumps just thinking of it! I have not been able to stop listening to this album since they started streaming it at "The Leak" I am definitely obsessed with it. Have you all checked out the War video? Awesome! I could see them doing a "Heavy Metal" type movie about Nostradamus. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:55:42 PM) | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Ya know that is my Favorite Song off the new cd so far.. I dont why.. I just love it.. Visions too.. But Alone.. I love it I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | spapad wrote: | | Thank you Tephra! Your my angel! LOL | | Tephra Rising wrote: | |
For Spapad:
We......don't wanna belong.....
We said all along.....
We just wanna be.......
Left Alone!!!
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[Brent Robinson] Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:34:34 AM | |
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I have to say that this was a very nice "surprise"!
Does anyone else out there think that after all is said and done for the boys, that music history will place this disc within the "Top 5" essential Priest discs? I have been listening to this none stop for the past week and think that this is a brilliant piece of work. It shows a lot of labour and thought went into this project and it was nice to see them taken out of their comfort zone and give us this result.
The first tracks that got to me were WAR - especially because I was geared up for a heavy take on this topic - yet they let Scott shine on this and went for mood. Excellent! Then it has to be NEW BEGINNINGS. Absolutely my favorite track so far - it just has a hypnotic feel to it. The rest are starting to gel as I find myself humming the verses and choruses during my everyday routines (always a good sign!).
I look forward to seeing if they actually plan on performing this from start to finish - it would be one tour for the history books, that much is certain. I hope that the positive feedback keeps on coming and that the rest of you are enjoying this disc as much as I am....
Keep The Faith! |
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[Tephra Rising] Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:45:46 AM | |
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Sorry I missed your goodnight greeting, love. For my devilish side, well....that'd take a plane ticket, hahahaha.......you are too funny.
Maybe we'll have a chance to connect tomorrow. G'night and sweet dreams.
PS: My horns hold my halo up!!!
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[spapad] Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:35:58 PM | |
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Good night Angel. I'll call you that from this day forward unitl you do something devilish. HA. So tired, but I will listen to the end of Alone. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:22:19 PM) | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | Spapad, thanks for the angel comment. It's been quite a while since any woman complimented me like that.
The song I am loving and can't seem to stop playing over and over and over and over and over and over again (repetitive, innit!) is CONQUEST. That is just an awesome tune. |
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[spapad] Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:31:17 PM | |
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Angel, where are you when I need you, I hit the repeat button. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:22:19 PM) | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | Spapad, thanks for the angel comment. It's been quite a while since any woman complimented me like that.
The song I am loving and can't seem to stop playing over and over and over and over and over and over again (repetitive, innit!) is CONQUEST. That is just an awesome tune. |
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[spapad] Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:28:19 PM | |
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Guess what I just so happen to be listening to right now! Alone, but in all fairness I have let the album rotate, but the song is about to end......Must be strong! Save me! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:22:19 PM) | | Tephra Rising wrote: | | Spapad, thanks for the angel comment. It's been quite a while since any woman complimented me like that.
The song I am loving and can't seem to stop playing over and over and over and over and over and over again (repetitive, innit!) is CONQUEST. That is just an awesome tune. |
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[Tephra Rising] Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:22:19 PM | |
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Spapad, thanks for the angel comment. It's been quite a while since any woman complimented me like that.
The song I am loving and can't seem to stop playing over and over and over and over and over and over again (repetitive, innit!) is CONQUEST. That is just an awesome tune. |
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[spapad] Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:05:14 PM | |
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:02:20 PM | |
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obsesed is good..lol ( me too) I listen to the whole cd and that was the song when I first heard it I knew .. This one is for me..lol It has stuck in my head ever since. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:58:23 PM) | | spapad wrote: | | MG, I believe I have become a little obsesed with it. | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Ya know that is my Favorite Song off the new cd so far.. I dont why.. I just love it.. Visions too.. But Alone.. I love it I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | spapad wrote: | | Thank you Tephra! Your my angel! LOL | | Tephra Rising wrote: | |
For Spapad:
We......don't wanna belong.....
We said all along.....
We just wanna be.......
Left Alone!!!
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[spapad] Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:58:23 PM | |
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MG, I believe I have become a little obsesed with it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:55:42 PM) | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Ya know that is my Favorite Song off the new cd so far.. I dont why.. I just love it.. Visions too.. But Alone.. I love it I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | | spapad wrote: | | Thank you Tephra! Your my angel! LOL | | Tephra Rising wrote: | |
For Spapad:
We......don't wanna belong.....
We said all along.....
We just wanna be.......
Left Alone!!!
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[~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:55:42 PM | |
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Ya know that is my Favorite Song off the new cd so far.. I dont why.. I just love it.. Visions too.. But Alone.. I love it I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:53:57 PM) | | spapad wrote: | | Thank you Tephra! Your my angel! LOL | | Tephra Rising wrote: | |
For Spapad:
We......don't wanna belong.....
We said all along.....
We just wanna be.......
Left Alone!!!
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[spapad] Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:53:57 PM | |
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Thank you Tephra! Your my angel! LOL [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Tephra Rising from Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:06:01 PM) | | Tephra Rising wrote: | |
For Spapad:
We......don't wanna belong.....
We said all along.....
We just wanna be.......
Left Alone!!!
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[codynstuff] Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:51:38 PM | |
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I'm a relativly new fan but as it stands I love all of priest works, save for a few songs. Just because I'm only sixteen doesn't mean I don't apprieciate this cd. I don't even know how many times I've listened to it since I bought it Tuesday morning. I think its there best album, I don't care what others say. |
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