It is. Except it doesn't have the benefit of being part of Europe. The rest of Africa's a mess too.

		guidogodoy wrote:
		Hmmm...sounds very much like Spain c. 1492. Expulsion of the Jews that were the basis of the economy and the Moors who were the traders. They were once a world power and have been trying to recover ever since.      jimmyjames wrote: What I hate about the South African situation is that the government is basically advocating the slaughter of the people that keep the countrys infrastructure going. Once the whites in the country leave or are killed things will deteriorate and all that will be left will be millions of aids stricken, uneducated, starving tribal peoples ruled by a "government" which is actually nothing more than a dictatorship propped up by the military. See Rhodesia. Thing is no-one outside can do anything about it. Some of the stuff going on there makes the mind boggle.

Remember my post about intolerance. This is exactly what I was talking about. I feel so bad about Joe's situation
and I so commend her for her last post. To endure what she has to and still speak out against racism shows what  kind of person she is. I have nothing but respect for her. I so wish the world could follow. I can't pray but I hope and 
wish nothing but the best for Joe and her family. Show support all, she deserves it. Peace!

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		spapad wrote:
		I do feel for Joe and her situation and being forced to leave a home that she belongs to is injust. But Mr. Craig's post was not about that. He took this conversation and used it to his own means of hate speech. That is pathetic. There are many reasons for what has happened over the years in America and in other countries, but sadly it all comes down to hate being taught to a generation of beings, and passed along down the line. This is the poison that will kill us all.      jimmyjames wrote: Not sure what the situations like in the States. But I do think more peoples views would be in line with Craigs if you had been there too. Seeing that kind of thing happen is going to change your perspective for sure. It's not preaching hate, it's an opinion, that's all.  The thing is the LA riots is nothing compared to what's going on in South Africa. The blacks are out of control, it's like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Johannesburg, I think, is the most violent city in the world. When Joe says she fears for her family etc. She literally fears they could be killed at any time. That stuff happens there all the time.

The last thing I wanted to do with this discussion was turn it around into hate speach. The reason things are like they are today is very much due to hatred and intolerance of each other.  The black people in our country did have a shit deal for many, many years before I was even born. What I am going on about now is how after the democratic voting took place and apartheid was abolished in 1990, things have gotten worse. We live in an overpopulated world with imorral fat cats in leadership positions. Our current president was charged with corruption and rape (found not guilty), has multi wives and has just fathered his 20th child in a poverty stricken country? He (andf Julias) live in the lap of luxury while so many otheres starve.

If these so called leaders would not let gread and their own hedonism go into overdrive, there would be enough food/clothing/housing for so many more. Education is power but they make it impossible for lower class peoole to attend school while they go on shopping trips to Dubai and drive cars that are in the million rands price range (why?)

I am one of the lucky ones I guess, I have a nice home, food and can educate my children. Not many can say the same. I just wish that like Spa said earlier, people would stop focusing on past events and move the hell on. We have the potential to be so much more. Killing just because you don't like someone's skin colour will never be right.. on either side of the spectrum. I'm not hateful toward any race, I just feel very threatened being a white female in this country where we are on the brink of a race war because of ignorant people in power singing songs to starving black people validating the murder and rape of white people. 
That is what I was on about!

Please to anyone reading this. It was never about hate!
The last thing I want to be portrayed as is something I haved fought against my entire life here.. a racist.. I am certainly not a racist and I despise racists.

		Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
		I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling: I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose. The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme.  We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media. The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care. This is what a former African leader said in 1974: "One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory." Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader: "There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM