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The most underrated heavy metal band in the world





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[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, March 15, 2010 2:05:48 PM 
Hey Budred....."who" are you talking to anyways? It didn't make any sense to me?  I do agree with kiamat,I believe that thier last 7 studio albums are the band's best material in thier career.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:28:07 PM)
[kiamat] Monday, March 15, 2010 3:26:48 AM 
Have you checked out their most recent stuff Budred? I'd say some of it tops those albums.
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[Budred] Saturday, March 13, 2010 7:59:29 PM 
Look at my stupid ass, that's _Denim and Leather.
 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:28:07 PM)
[Budred] Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:28:07 PM 

Demin and Leather, Wheels of Steel, and Strong Arm of the Law over 18 albums and nearly 30 years is the best
they can come up with and you tell everyone else their music sucks. My goodness, now that's funny.

[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:49:33 PM 
Yeah Painkiller,it sounds like you almost have all of Saxon's 12 worthy albums. 12 albums out of 18 isn't bad.  The Dogs Of War album has 10 songs,2 of them are utterly terrible(Hold On and Give It All Away) but the other 8 tracks are classic Saxon,you should enjoy that album. Unleash The Beast has 11 tracks and only 2 of them are weak(Terminal Velocity -  although many Saxon fans like this track, I don't...and Absent Friends the ballad)but the other 9 tracks are classic Saxon. 

Metalhead has10 songs and one of them is lame(Prisoner) but the other 9 tracks are great Saxon.Killing Ground has 11 tracks and 2 of them I didn't care for "Hell Freezes Over" and "Deeds Of Glory" but the other 9 tracks are great Saxon. The first Saxon album 1979 isn't their best material as Rocka Rolla isn't Priest's best either but its not terible,8 songs on it and the only one that blows is "Big Teaser" but the rest is 70's rock Saxon style,its worth getting if you like the band. 

Also get 2003 "Heavy Metal Thunder" its a CD of re-recorded tracks from Saxon's first 6 studio albums,they re-recorded the song 'Crusader" wich is by all means a great Saxon track,just not a good album.But that album is worth getting,I like the updated version of Motorcycle Man better than the original on Wheels Of Steel,most of them are better...there are one or two that I prefer the originals better but for the most part the re-recorded tracks are better.


As I keep saying many times,Saxon's last 7 studio albums from 1995 Dogs Of War till now 2009 Into The Labyrinth are very consistant,extremely more consistant than the overrated poor song writting of Iron Maiden yet Maiden get all the credit out there.....its a joke.  

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[Painkiller87] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:05:47 AM 
Sweet. Thanks for the advice. So let's see.... all I am missing is Saxon, Power & The Glory, and Dogs of War to Killing Ground.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, March 08, 2010 1:21:50 PM 
Yeah Painkiller87,Saxon has 18 studio albums and there are 6 of them that you should stay away from:

Crusader -1984
Innocense Is No Excuse -1985
Rock The Nations - 1986
Destiny -1988
Solid Ball Of Rock -1990
Forever Free - 1992


Those 6 albums are terrible and are not at all good Saxon records.Solid Ball Of Rock and Forever Free both have a few songs on them that are good Saxon songs but overall the albums suck. The first 5 Saxon albums are cool and the last 7 Saxon album are cool,those 12 albums are the Saxon that are good quality.

Saxon -1979
Wheels Of Steel -1980
Strong Arm Of The Law -1981
Denim & Leather -1981(same year as Strong Arm)
Power & The Glory -1983
Dogs Of War -1995
Unleash The Beast -1997
Metalhead -1999
Killing Ground -2001
Lionheart -2004
The Inner Sanctum -2007
Into The Labyrinth -2009

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[Painkiller87] Monday, March 08, 2010 7:01:21 AM 
Wow..... that is truly terrifying what happened in those years. I have heard bad things about this album, Innocence...  and Rock the Nations, but wow. That was bad.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:04:25 PM 
lol! Dude I know it! Yeah it was the label's idea to sound like this but it was Saxon who wrote the shitty songs,they totally sold out to the American market back then just to try an sell some albums,they "sold out". But yeah they have come around full circle these last 15 years,thats an under statement!  

Just showing that Saxon does have some poor LPs.The worst 4 Saxon albums are 1984 Crusader even though the song Crusader itself is excellent,but the rest of the album really blows. Then there is 1985 Innocense Is No Excuse I don't like any songs off it,1986 Rock The nations has only 1 song on it thats ok the rest are shit,1988 Destiny album I don't like any songs off it at all. Those 4 albums suck. 1990 Solid Ball Of Rock and 1992 Forever Free both have half the album thats cool and half the album that sucks,kinda like Point Of Entry. Those 6 Saxon's albums are not as good as the other 12 albums I would recommend.
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[kiamat] Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:36:54 AM 
Biff's voice over those synths... just so wrong-sounding! I can only hope this was more the label's idea than theirs, or maybe it was theirs (But I can forgive them, they finally got back on track despite the Channel 4 'band makeover' whatever it was). 
That album cover is pretty rubbish too. Not as bad as 'Innocence..' but fairly boring and stupid-looking. Not an iconic jobby like Wheels of Steel or Lionheart. Those are covers you can wear with pride on a shirt!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 06, 2010 1:23:50 AM 
I Can't Wait Anymore - 1988 Destiny album this song fuckin sucks! HAHAHA this Saxon song blows to high heaven man,what were they thinking?? lol! The sound alone sucks and sounds like Bon Jovi!! lol!! As I've known for years Saxon does have a couple of lame albums filled with lame songs!! lol!!
[Dale T.] Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:56:44 PM 
I like that somg, reminds me of ac/dc. Thats a pretty good cd.
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[Deep Freeze] Monday, March 01, 2010 11:15:26 AM 
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Painkiller87] Monday, March 01, 2010 9:04:33 AM 
Ahh yes. That is a great track as well. I think it would be perfect for Deep Freeze as his theme. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:07:07 PM 
Going Nowhere Fast is a great track off this album as well. I can fully understand that Biffs vocals are not for everybody but to me he is the 2nd best vocalist in heavy metal.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:27:46 PM 
Cool....Your entitled to your opinion and Saxon never did it for you,I understand.....I'm a fan of some of King Diamond's stuff and I've heard complaints of him for 25 years......its the same way with "Megadeth" for me,I don't mind the music but I utterly can't stand Dave Mustain's whinning vocals,to me he has the worst vocals in metal's history.
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[Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:10:16 AM 
Saxon... They're all top notch musicians, but they never did it for me. I tried really fucking hard to get into their music, but I never succeeded. It's because of Biff Byford. I can't stand his vocals. His vocals ruin the songs. Every fucking time!



Let's take this song as an example. It begins with an excellent guitar solo, followed by a couple kick-ass riffs and then Biff Byford opens his trap and the whole thing goes down in flames. It's like that with almost every Saxon song IMO.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, February 26, 2010 12:04:39 PM 
Yeah Painkiller87,I agree Red Star Falling is absolutely excellent,very underrated track and definately one of Saxon's best songs let alone the best song off The Inner Sanctum wich is my 2nd fav.Saxon album next to Lionheart.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Friday, February 26, 2010 9:07:31 AM)
[Painkiller87] Friday, February 26, 2010 9:07:31 AM 

My favorite of this great album.
[Budred] Monday, February 22, 2010 5:55:28 PM 
I just recently recorded Saxon's "The Eagle Has Landed" from vinyl to my Ipod. 
I was jamming to it today in the car. I forgot how good it is. I haven't heard it in nearly
 20 years.  Peace!
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