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[guidogodoy] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:49:43 PM 
Look, look! I have Germany's ball in my hand! LOL!!!!

[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:49:06 PM 
This sucks. Damn Espana (screw the tilde...symbol...thing).

I only heard the first 30 minutes of the first half of the game on the radio before going to class. *sigh* Oh, well...Germany will have a chance at getting third-place, at least. GO GERMANY!
[_strat_] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:41:29 PM 
There... A consolation prize for Germany. Sorry, Elf, Im looking forward to watching you on Euro 2012.

[_strat_] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:39:28 PM 
No quoting - Im still not talking to you, and only the inevitable Dutch victory can cure that.

It is near former Spalin, and regulary a target of trailer-dwelling raiders.
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:32:50 PM 
Where IS Croatialia anyway? Isn't it close to where all those Vermicious Knids were eating up all the Oompa - loompas?

By Africa, I think...
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:04:16 PM)
[_strat_] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:04:16 PM 
Whoever this Guido person is, I am NOT talking to him. 

And Im certainly not betting either my Croatian World cup 1998 shirt, OR my vintage Red Star Belgrade scarf on a couple of Dutch potheads.

I am willing to bet a bag of frozen calamari, tho. Today taught me never to trust anything with tentacles.
Edited at: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:04:34 PM
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:59:35 PM 

Wanna bet a shirt?! LOL! Sorry, non-offer. I don't have a Spanish jersey...only t-shirts.

I say Spain should win to shake their "never won the big one" cloud hanging over their head. They DID outplay the Germans today by a longshot. Curious to see what happens in the final round(s). Any chance the Americans can come back? HAAAAAA!!!


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:53:26 PM)
[_strat_] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:53:26 PM 
I have a feeling that Germans will be eating seafood today...

Anyway, Im rooting for the Dutch in the finals, and for the Germans in the 3rd place match. Its really about time that the Dutch win something, seeing as how many times they played in all sorts of finals, and never won any. The Spanish are already European champions, and thats more than enough.

As for today, the Germans really surprised me, and in a very negative way. Considering how both teams played so far, I thought that the Germans will throw in another four goals, but it all has to end somewhere, I guess.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:22:21 PM)
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:47:15 PM 
¡ESPAÑÑÑAAAAAAAAAA!

Just got back from the local mexican restaurant where they watch the games as they should...in SPANISH! They DOMINATED play. Germans barely had their boots on the ball. Can't wait for the finals.
[Becks] Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:22:21 PM 
I really hope he's wrong this time LOL! Pleased to see the Netherlands got through to the final, really hope Germany get through tomorrow. Once again I will only be able to watch the first half before I go to work, damnit!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:39:29 PM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:39:29 PM 
All right! I hadn't heard that but EVERYONE knows that the octopus is never wrong!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:39:24 PM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:39:24 PM 
The octopus picked Spain.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:37:33 PM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:37:33 PM 
HAAAA!!! I cheer whenever I can SEE the friggin' game (stuck at 45:31 as I type).

To be honest, I have no dog in this fight. I have been picking Spain all this time, but the Germans domination of Argentina worries me. Spain'll be up against it tomorrow.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:34:07 PM)
[joedraper] Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:34:07 PM 
OMG OMG


Guido... say it isn't so...  you're not cheering for THAT  team are you?

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:11:09 PM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:11:09 PM 
Damn, what a time to pop back in...Uruguay!
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:07:26 PM 
I am watching frozen fucking computer!! DAMN! ESPN usually has little to no problem but the bandwidth must be stretched to high heaven today as I am literally watching a slide-show.

Stuck at 35:29. AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:45:13 AM)
[Becks] Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:45:13 AM 
Watching the Uruguay vs Netherlands semi final, GO THE NETHERLANDS! They've had a couple of good chances, hopefully they put some away soon.
[Becks] Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:49:45 PM 
Yeah it's stink that an African team didn't make it through. Ah well, such is the nature of sport.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:42:59 PM)
[jimmyjames] Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:13:39 PM 
He must have. Unless he ran out.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:40:20 AM)
[Head banger] Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:41:49 PM 
I think that soccer is the hardest game to introduce it, but it could be done.  just as keeping time could be done a lot better.  but the earth is flat, resulting in a lack of interest.

hell they could have a couple of additional referees assistants that judged from behind the goal, or on the goal line or something.  its a bloody large field for three people to control.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:13:22 AM)
[_strat_] Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:42:59 PM 
Yeah, thats true, but on the other hand, its nice to see a South American team that isnt Argentina or Brazil get this far. 

Too bad that no team from Asia or Africa made it to the semi finals. Especialy an African team would be nice, it is their cup, after all.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:25:28 PM)
[_strat_] Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:40:50 PM 
Meh, Argentina was a mob. They were only good against those teams that shit their pants when they heard they will be playing against Argentina. I sure wont miss them.

Im not sure that putting referees from big leagues would work, tho. One of the best referees from this cup comes from Uzbekistan, while the biggest disapointment was an Italian who refed the Mexico - Argentina match.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:35:52 PM)
[_strat_] Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:35:44 PM 
Lol... They actualy managed to hit the post three times before the ball finally rolled over the goalline... THAT is an achievement.

Still, they might surprise Germany. But I dont think so. Football is a game that lasts for 90 minutes, and the Germans win in the end.

As for cameras, I think they are "considering"... Which probably means no, but hope dies last...
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:52:11 PM)
[guidogodoy] Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:13:22 AM 
Here I sit watcing the Wimbledon Championships (wasn't the Queen just there? Damn lady sure gets around) and, granted, the replay rule DID have unexpected effects such as the (now) common infraction of players looking up to their boxes before they decide to challenge a call overall, though, it has had very little effect on the gameplay. Why can you take 30+ second out of soccer / football + ANY other major sport while Larry, Moe and Curley argue a call and still not have it affect gameplay? Mute point, I say.

FIFA (among others) should move their asses into the modern world. Not to even have to EXPLAIN an infraction. Too much, man. I see no logic behind it. Let's just blindly accept what they say as "true." Oh yeah, the earth is flat and people in Africa spend the hot part of the day on their backs covered by the shade of one giant foot.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:39:58 AM)
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[Head banger] Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:40:20 AM 
perhaps maradona forgot to snort a few lines...
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:35:52 PM)
[Head banger] Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:39:58 AM 
there are times it slows down hockey.  but thats rare.  it has natural pauses that soccer should not.  but if you gave them a 30 second limit the ref can delay it for that long.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:00:18 PM)
[Becks] Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:26:31 PM 

I'm not sure, there must be a reason floating around somewhere LOL!

Yeah JJ I reckon some of the refs must be a bit 'star struck' or whatever. Who knows, but there's been some abysmal reffing at this world cup.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:13:55 PM)
[jimmyjames] Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:35:52 PM 
Great display from Krauts. Argentina had no reply and gave it away second half. Very low key sideline display from Maradona, expected him to be psyched for this one as he has been in previous games but he just looked nervous and failed to provide inspiration. Nothing from Messi, Tevez tried hard, he was the only Argie that fought till the end. Germany were just awesome though.

Spain still looked far from convincing in their game. Fernando Torres should be benched for the semi, he's started every game and done nothing. Paraguay had their best game of the tournament. Unlucky. 

I think the problem with these penalties and referees stems from the refs not being qualified to ref at this level. It's fucking ridiculous to have these refs from Japan and this clown from Guatamala reffing these big games. All the refs from the second round onwards should be from the big league, Premiership, La Liga, Bundesliga and Serie A. They won't be starstruck by the big name players and are used to being in charge on the big stage. I've seen it on a number of occasions in this cup where the refs are almost sucking up to the players when there's a dispute about a decision. All smiles etc. The refs have to be tougher on the players. Dives should be ignored or carded and player dissent should not be tolerated. Just send a few guys off and it'll stop. 

Sepp Blatter and his cronies won't do anything about bringing in replays. He's to busy accepting kickbacks, screwing high end hookers, staying in posh hotels and getting his ass kissed to actually do any work.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:20:58 PM 
[guidogodoy] Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:13:55 PM 
Ok, technology aside and at the risk of sounding like an American bellyacher (which I am not, whomever thought USA would win is a fool...I still stand..albeit tentatively by Spain), FIFA not having to even EXPLAIN why they disallowed the USA goal?!? WTF?!? That is so backassed that it isn't even funny. Call it like you see it, great, but I ask for nothing but a small explanation. Even the umpire who got the call wrong against the baseball player who threw the perfect game apologized. Sincerely, at that.
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[Becks] Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:02:19 PM 
For most calls, i.e. did the ball cross the goal line, and was that a dive, are solved instantly in every home with a television that shows a replay during the live game. It literally takes less than a minute. It's ridiculous that Fifa keeps poo pooing it when there is so much bullshit that goes on in football, which could easily be solved with some form of video technology.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:00:18 PM)
[guidogodoy] Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:00:18 PM 
Oh, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree about Sepp. Do NOT get me started on that rant.

He argues that it is "part of the game" that it will "slow it down?" Look at hockey! Look at tennis! It did neither! I do not advocate reviewing every single infraction but, come on, those big ones? Why can you have two or even three refs discussing the point while keeping the players at a distance so as not to hear their input when all it would take is a "man in the booth?"

Call me stupid. I just don't get it. Sadly, it will probably be as I said: a death to spur some sort of movement there.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:55:26 PM)
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[Becks] Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:55:26 PM 
Yeah they really need goal line technology. But I think with Sepp Blatter at the helm it will be difficult to get Fifa to agree on something unfortunately.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:52:11 PM)
[guidogodoy] Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:52:11 PM 
While I am happy that Spain won, that was FAR from a "decisive vitctory."

Greater question is WTF is up with the officiating?!? Those penalty kicks were just too much. Hey, FIFA...let's get with the times and get a friggin' CAMERA in there! Not for the small offenses but lives are seriously at stake when you miss a big one.
 
[Becks] Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:25:28 PM 
I find it bizarre that the only South American team left in the tournament is, in my opinion, the least deserving - Uruguay. Stupid Uruguay. Netherlands smash them!! LOL!
Good to see Spain won, Spain vs Germany semi final should be a good one.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:39:23 AM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:12:57 PM 
GOAL PARAGUA- oh, never mind. Sucks.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:39:23 AM 
¡Qué viva Españ!

Paraguay shouldn't win anyway. They wear Wicked Witch socks. A house needs to fall on them.
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:42:23 AM 
YES!! See ya later, Argentina! Los geht's, Deutschland!!! WOOOO!!!!
[_strat_] Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:04:19 AM 
Oh, we shouldnt be too quick on that. Remember that the Dutch have eliminated Brazil. Personaly, I think that Nedherlands vs. Germany is the most likely final, tho of course the Spanish are strong candidates too.

In any case, Im rooting for the Dutch and the Germans in the semi finals (no matter who the Germans will be playing against). As for tonight, I really cant say. I will watch the game, of course, but I dont think I will be rooting for anyone.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:50:49 AM)
[Becks] Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:50:49 AM 
That was an annihilation. Awesome football. If Germany don't win the whole tournament I will be very surprised.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:47:02 AM)
[_strat_] Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:47:02 AM 
There! 4 - 0. This is not a defeat, this is a total breakdown of Argentina.

I want to adopt Klose.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:34:01 AM)
[Becks] Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:34:01 AM 
Haha Argentina! Germany are too awesome LOL!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:32:38 AM)
[_strat_] Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:32:38 AM 
I am a prophet, I am a GOD! I think that my predictions can alter the outcome of reality. 

This is over, Maradona is going home.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:27:02 AM)
[_strat_] Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:27:02 AM 
Yes! 2-0!!!


I smell a third goal, come on Germany!!!
[_strat_] Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:09:56 AM 
Yeah, they have to hold out this pressure, and maybe get something from counter attacks.

Lets not forget yesterday, tho. Both teams that took the lead first. then ended up losing. I hope it wont repeat today.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:57:37 AM)
[Becks] Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:57:37 AM 
Excellent goal, now they need to put more away. Go Germany!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:03:46 AM)
[Head banger] Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:34:56 AM 
it is the biggest sporting event in the world.  one would think that takes more than a fortnight
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:17:21 AM)
[_strat_] Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:30:18 AM 
Advil?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:29:36 AM)
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:29:36 AM 
Oy!!! That's it! I need some Advil and its only 7:30 AM here......HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy your marathon root canal...ummm, I mean soccer game.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:23:14 AM)
[_strat_] Saturday, July 03, 2010 7:23:14 AM 
Well, there two more games in the quarter finals (this one included), then the semi finals (another two games) then its the third place match (losers of the semi finals play for the third place) and the finals, next sunday. So with this game included, its six games to go.
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