Young man, I am NOT in charge, nor do I feel the need to be. I mention Murray out of respect (something perhaps you have not learned?) not in an effort to "name throw", as it were.  Your Huxley reference, while amusing, is not even close to accurate. I have no need to justify my comments to you, nor do you deserve the effort but, since it is clear that you wish to engage me, I shall humor you.

I have been accused of many things and I have been called many things. "Crotchety old man" is a new one, but I like it. Again, very amusing. If you had actually taken the time to do your "homework" on me, you would find that I am rarely complaining, but will do so where I feel it is needed. Clearly, you have no idea what you are talking about and are simply looking for some kind of attention.  Over the years, I have participated in foolishness just as others here have done. I have not berated or denegrated others for such nonsense. I have actually enjoyed some of it. I do not tell others how to spend their time but I certainly point out stupidity where I see it.

As for me personally, I hide from no one. I am well known here and need not shadow my thoughts or ideas. I am friend to the good as well as the bad. If you feel as though I am "talking down" to you, perhaps you should consider the position from which you speak? I certainly remain consistent, if nothing else. The people on this Board know from whence I speak, I can assure you.

 As you so perceptively pointed out, there is a "Beyond the realms section. This one, by the way, is "Pissed Off". Seems somewhat appropriate to me that my "bitching" would end up in this area.  I have not censored anyone and that includes you.  I will stand for my friends when they need my help, and I will expose morons where they appear.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by VICTIM OF METAL from Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:23:57 PM)

		VICTIM OF METAL wrote:
		Wow, what a brave new world you lead? Some might say you are starting to sound as though you hold some sort of power on this site? Wishing to controling what threads are created!  It says in the "beyond the realms of Judas Priest" area, just above the topics, "disscus anything and everthing here". What's next, you won't  like the colors some of us use in our posts, or perhaps the smiley faces? And you love to toss Murray's name into the mix as though you are eating at his dinner table everynight? Why don't you let him do his job instead of trying to invoke some leverage by name throwing? You are not in comand of anything or anyone.  We are all equal here, so stop acting as though we are below your nose, you crotchety old man. You always seem to be on the rag, bitching and complaing about everything. Yea, just what new members want to read, that's disparaging to them. Now come down off that milk crate, from behind that curtain, and take off that wizards outfit. Who do yo think you are telling any member here, new or old how to spend their time here. If a thread is not of any intrest to you move on, as you've said there's hundreds of interesting ones here. So make use of them, and avoid the ones you hate, or might offend you. And try not to be so bitter and negative about everything. I've said my piece. This is just my opinion. And i guess my right too, huh. "In the past, I have teased people about their spelling and grammar, admonished some for poor behavior, participated in ridiculous silliness, argued with some, discussed relevant issues and so on, but I have never, ever had the need to create a Thread. Anything I have wished to say has fit quite nicely into one of the hundreds we already have. In any event, I am certain the practice of creating Threads that are absolutely useless will continue. And I can assure you I will always complain about it. That is my right, too."    (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:08:01 AM)   Deep Freeze wrote:   I had not noticed an "uproar", however, I can speak for myself. The reason I get upset over useless Thread after useless thread is because it seems wasteful. Additionally, it is often a vehicle for troublemakers to promote some kind of nonsense that tends to suck in the new people and those among us that simply have no self- control. This, eventually, leads to problems with fighting, insults, profanity-laced tirades and finally, Murray stepping in to close it down. I find that somewhat disparaging to our membership. I believe we are better than that. If you do not share that belief, so be it. We have an abundance of Threads. I am almost willing to declare that every topic that can be discussed, has been discussed (to paraphrase the US Patent Office) at some point or in some other Thread. Sandwich Threads, Bikini Threads, Alcohol Threads, Pimple Cream Threads, Butt Wart Threads.  The list goes on and on. I do not expect  you or anyone else to feel compelled to agree with me. It is just my opinion. That is something else we have an abundance of around this place.  In the past, I have teased people about their spelling and grammar, admonished some for poor behavior, participated in ridiculous silliness, argued with some, discussed relevant issues and so on, but I have never, ever had the need to create a Thread. Anything I have wished to say has fit quite nicely into one of the hundreds we already have. In any event, I am certain the practice of creating Threads that are absolutely useless will continue. And I can assure you I will always complain about it. That is my right, too.      _strat_ wrote:   Sorry, Im out of poop. Ok, you dont like it. I get that. What I dont get is why is there always such an uproar whenever a thread that you or somebody else thinks is stupid appears.      Deep Freeze wrote:   No. I don't like it an that is that. Go eat poop.      _strat_ wrote:   Blessed be the line drawers, for they cannot really draw lines, and if they could, they would probably not know where. Seriously guys, WTF? Craig wants to talk about sandwiches. Vail wants to talk about sandwiches, since she responded. Maybe someone else wants to talk about sandwiches too, we will see.  Its in the "Beyond the Realms of Priest" section, and even if it wasnt, you still wouldnt have to read or post in it. Why not just let people talk about what they want, without starting shit over it?      Deep Freeze wrote:   HA!! You're starting to sound like me!!! Unfortunately, blessed are the 'line drawers' for they are few....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:   Thank you my friend.  I can deal with a lot of nonsense and stupidity, but a sandwich thread?  The line needs to be drawn somewhere!      Deep Freeze wrote:   Amen, Darth. Amen.      Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote:   There is a Sandwich thread.  Good Lord!  Someone save us from stupid threads!!!!!!!! Edited at: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:25:46 PM

Yes I have read it... And yes I saw maiden with priest many many years ago.. when they toured together..  I thought priest blew them off the stage..

		METALMANJP wrote:
		Has anyone read Judas Priest Heavy Metal Painkillers ? I like Maiden but this bothers me. Priest took them under thier wings and toured with them several times and Maiden stabbed them in the back by making comments like, we blew them away on stage. It started with Diano and Dickenson too. I believe Maiden is a little jealous. And the Point of Entry album being not as heavy as others (which I love) made them think Priest was a has been band. But in realty Diano and Dickenson started wearing leather and studs in 1980 or so and Halford brought that look  in 1978 or 1979. Priest was just trying to help another Metal band from England and never thought of them as rivals or who was better.

Sorry, Im out of poop.

Ok, you dont like it. I get that. What I dont get is why is there always such an uproar whenever a thread that you or somebody else thinks is stupid appears.

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		No. I don't like it an that is that. Go eat poop.      _strat_ wrote: Blessed be the line drawers, for they cannot really draw lines, and if they could, they would probably not know where. Seriously guys, WTF? Craig wants to talk about sandwiches. Vail wants to talk about sandwiches, since she responded. Maybe someone else wants to talk about sandwiches too, we will see.  Its in the "Beyond the Realms of Priest" section, and even if it wasnt, you still wouldnt have to read or post in it. Why not just let people talk about what they want, without starting shit over it?      Deep Freeze wrote: HA!! You're starting to sound like me!!! Unfortunately, blessed are the 'line drawers' for they are few....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote: Thank you my friend.  I can deal with a lot of nonsense and stupidity, but a sandwich thread?  The line needs to be drawn somewhere!      Deep Freeze wrote: Amen, Darth. Amen.      Darth_Painkiller_0870 wrote: There is a Sandwich thread.  Good Lord!  Someone save us from stupid threads!!!!!!!!