| [Deep Freeze] Friday, December 12, 2008 1:54:19 PM | |
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I do not own it but I have listened to it. I certainly do not hate it. Not my favorite work but, I am no fan of "The Wall", "Tommy" or any of the multitude of so-called "concept" albums. I prefer variety of material in an album. But that's me.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, December 12, 2008 1:49:19 PM)| |  | Head banger wrote: | | I dunno if I would go that far, but I dont like it. just doesnt work for me. Ram it down is better. Rocka rolla, well no. I dont think IM changes as much as JP though. they are quite constant.
| | | metalmaz wrote: | | I've tried so hard to like it, but failed. In my opinion it is overblown, self indulgent, pompous and downright boring. There are 3 songs on it I really like and on an album as long as Nostradamus, that is a big letdown
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bands progressing and Priest aren't like AC/DC who stick to a fairly rigid formula.
Iron Maiden's last 3 abums have been outstanding and are on par and in some cases even better than their "golden era." They haven't stuck with the likes of "Run To The Hills," but they've progressed without losing their rock roots. Saxon are another example of this.
Nostradasmus is a fine example of not letting band members produce their own albums. Egos and lack of objectivity get in the way and it needed an independent producer to rein it in and say things like "This song is not up to scratch and shoudn't be on the album"
And an indendent producer would also have mixed the album so Ian Hill could have been heard. Of course that would upset KK and Glen because they think only they should be heard. They have obviously used a drum machine instead of Scott - but of course that is because people would say "Wow Scott is an awesome drummer" and Glen and KK wouldn't like that, because after all they are the only musicians in JP.
NostraBOREus doesn't suck as much as Rocka Rolla or Ram it Down, but it's a close thing .
Masterpiece my arse. I'm amazed it hasn't got "Inspired by Andrew Llyod Webber" on the sleeve notes.
How can such a great band have the audacity to release something like this.
| | | Cobras-Aura wrote: | | | I'm sure that many people may agree that this album is a masterpiece, and one of the most amazing things that Judas Priest have put out creativity-wise. It is diverse, whether you want rockers or bruisers, slow or fast, ballads, doomers, or perhaps something new and surprising....you'll find it all on this album. The composition, lyrics and music are all well pieced here, into one seamless story of this man's life. This album takes Judas Priest to new heights, pushing for and breaking new ground. Sure it drifts off traditional heavy metal on some tracks, but so what hey? Visions for a prime example ain't your typical Priest song and yet it's my favourite song on that album. If there is anything to be disappointed about, it is for too few of these songs being showcased in the band's setlist on this tour so far. And I like surely a lot of other people, cannot wait when the Nostradamus tour rolls out and they play this masterpiece in its entirety. May Nostradamus go down as one of the amazing wonders and masterpieces in history of all heavy metal, it truly deserves such praise. |
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| [SkyRideR] Friday, December 12, 2008 1:53:42 PM | |
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| give it ten years and we shall see... |
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| [Head banger] Friday, December 12, 2008 1:49:19 PM | |
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I dunno if I would go that far, but I dont like it. just doesnt work for me. Ram it down is better. Rocka rolla, well no. I dont think IM changes as much as JP though. they are quite constant.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by metalmaz from Friday, December 12, 2008 1:46:28 PM)| | | metalmaz wrote: | | I've tried so hard to like it, but failed. In my opinion it is overblown, self indulgent, pompous and downright boring. There are 3 songs on it I really like and on an album as long as Nostradamus, that is a big letdown
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bands progressing and Priest aren't like AC/DC who stick to a fairly rigid formula.
Iron Maiden's last 3 abums have been outstanding and are on par and in some cases even better than their "golden era." They haven't stuck with the likes of "Run To The Hills," but they've progressed without losing their rock roots. Saxon are another example of this.
Nostradasmus is a fine example of not letting band members produce their own albums. Egos and lack of objectivity get in the way and it needed an independent producer to rein it in and say things like "This song is not up to scratch and shoudn't be on the album"
And an indendent producer would also have mixed the album so Ian Hill could have been heard. Of course that would upset KK and Glen because they think only they should be heard. They have obviously used a drum machine instead of Scott - but of course that is because people would say "Wow Scott is an awesome drummer" and Glen and KK wouldn't like that, because after all they are the only musicians in JP.
NostraBOREus doesn't suck as much as Rocka Rolla or Ram it Down, but it's a close thing .
Masterpiece my arse. I'm amazed it hasn't got "Inspired by Andrew Llyod Webber" on the sleeve notes.
How can such a great band have the audacity to release something like this.
| | | Cobras-Aura wrote: | | | I'm sure that many people may agree that this album is a masterpiece, and one of the most amazing things that Judas Priest have put out creativity-wise. It is diverse, whether you want rockers or bruisers, slow or fast, ballads, doomers, or perhaps something new and surprising....you'll find it all on this album. The composition, lyrics and music are all well pieced here, into one seamless story of this man's life. This album takes Judas Priest to new heights, pushing for and breaking new ground. Sure it drifts off traditional heavy metal on some tracks, but so what hey? Visions for a prime example ain't your typical Priest song and yet it's my favourite song on that album. If there is anything to be disappointed about, it is for too few of these songs being showcased in the band's setlist on this tour so far. And I like surely a lot of other people, cannot wait when the Nostradamus tour rolls out and they play this masterpiece in its entirety. May Nostradamus go down as one of the amazing wonders and masterpieces in history of all heavy metal, it truly deserves such praise. |
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| [metalmaz] Friday, December 12, 2008 1:46:28 PM | |
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I've tried so hard to like it, but failed. In my opinion it is overblown, self indulgent, pompous and downright boring. There are 3 songs on it I really like and on an album as long as Nostradamus, that is a big letdown
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bands progressing and Priest aren't like AC/DC who stick to a fairly rigid formula.
Iron Maiden's last 3 abums have been outstanding and are on par and in some cases even better than their "golden era." They haven't stuck with the likes of "Run To The Hills," but they've progressed without losing their rock roots. Saxon are another example of this.
Nostradasmus is a fine example of not letting band members produce their own albums. Egos and lack of objectivity get in the way and it needed an independent producer to rein it in and say things like "This song is not up to scratch and shoudn't be on the album"
And an indendent producer would also have mixed the album so Ian Hill could have been heard. Of course that would upset KK and Glen because they think only they should be heard. They have obviously used a drum machine instead of Scott - but of course that is because people would say "Wow Scott is an awesome drummer" and Glen and KK wouldn't like that, because after all they are the only musicians in JP.
NostraBOREus doesn't suck as much as Rocka Rolla or Ram it Down, but it's a close thing .
Masterpiece my arse. I'm amazed it hasn't got "Inspired by Andrew Llyod Webber" on the sleeve notes.
How can such a great band have the audacity to release something like this.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Cobras-Aura from Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:38:18 AM)| | | Cobras-Aura wrote: | | | I'm sure that many people may agree that this album is a masterpiece, and one of the most amazing things that Judas Priest have put out creativity-wise. It is diverse, whether you want rockers or bruisers, slow or fast, ballads, doomers, or perhaps something new and surprising....you'll find it all on this album. The composition, lyrics and music are all well pieced here, into one seamless story of this man's life. This album takes Judas Priest to new heights, pushing for and breaking new ground. Sure it drifts off traditional heavy metal on some tracks, but so what hey? Visions for a prime example ain't your typical Priest song and yet it's my favourite song on that album. If there is anything to be disappointed about, it is for too few of these songs being showcased in the band's setlist on this tour so far. And I like surely a lot of other people, cannot wait when the Nostradamus tour rolls out and they play this masterpiece in its entirety. May Nostradamus go down as one of the amazing wonders and masterpieces in history of all heavy metal, it truly deserves such praise. |
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| [SkyRideR] Friday, December 12, 2008 1:30:18 PM | |
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this is the worst place to be if some members are gonna rag on the nostradamus cd...
(i won't mention names but someone calling it : "nostraboreus..".)
i agree with everyone that it is a potential classic. Edited at: Friday, December 12, 2008 1:31:04 PM
Edited at: Friday, December 12, 2008 1:33:02 PM |
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| [Bluddy Hell] Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:55:39 AM | |
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| Judas Priest have been nominated for 2 Grammy Awards!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| [Maple Syrup] Monday, November 17, 2008 9:41:39 PM | |
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I too was "intrigued" by the song titles of NSTDMS before the release. Then you listen to it more than a few times and you realize how long and boring it is. Too much drivel and not enough hard rockin style substance.. I'll be hard pressed to see it live in its entirety, unless they include some classics at the end..MpleSyrp
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by scorpion01 from Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:17:44 PM)| | | scorpion01 wrote: | | | I PLAYED VISIONS, NOSTRADAMUS AND ALONE AT THE GYM TONIGHT AND MANY MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT PRIEST OR METAL FANS WERE INRTRIGUED. ESPECIALLY WITH THE SONG NOSTRADAMUS. |
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| [seely] Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:03:24 AM | |
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Freakin' Great Album!
Damn to all naysayers! |
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| [scorpion01] Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:17:44 PM | |
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| I PLAYED VISIONS, NOSTRADAMUS AND ALONE AT THE GYM TONIGHT AND MANY MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT PRIEST OR METAL FANS WERE INRTRIGUED. ESPECIALLY WITH THE SONG NOSTRADAMUS. |
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| [guitardude] Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:22:46 PM | |
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I concur,Nostradamus is brilliant,but must be listened to with the subject matter always in mind. Other than that it just freaking rips!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Cobras-Aura from Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:38:18 AM)| | | Cobras-Aura wrote: | | | I'm sure that many people may agree that this album is a masterpiece, and one of the most amazing things that Judas Priest have put out creativity-wise. It is diverse, whether you want rockers or bruisers, slow or fast, ballads, doomers, or perhaps something new and surprising....you'll find it all on this album. The composition, lyrics and music are all well pieced here, into one seamless story of this man's life. This album takes Judas Priest to new heights, pushing for and breaking new ground. Sure it drifts off traditional heavy metal on some tracks, but so what hey? Visions for a prime example ain't your typical Priest song and yet it's my favourite song on that album. If there is anything to be disappointed about, it is for too few of these songs being showcased in the band's setlist on this tour so far. And I like surely a lot of other people, cannot wait when the Nostradamus tour rolls out and they play this masterpiece in its entirety. May Nostradamus go down as one of the amazing wonders and masterpieces in history of all heavy metal, it truly deserves such praise. |
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| [Screamin' Demon] Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:25:37 PM | |
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Yep. I thought a stupid thread such as "Nostradamus; The Downfall Of Priest" had to be countered with something positive.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Udo S. from Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:25:07 AM)| | | Udo S. wrote: | | | Cool thread number 10! |
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| [Udo Sapper] Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:25:07 AM | |
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| [Screamin' Demon] Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:38:18 AM | |
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| I'm sure that many people may agree that this album is a masterpiece, and one of the most amazing things that Judas Priest have put out creativity-wise. It is diverse, whether you want rockers or bruisers, slow or fast, ballads, doomers, or perhaps something new and surprising....you'll find it all on this album. The composition, lyrics and music are all well pieced here, into one seamless story of this man's life. This album takes Judas Priest to new heights, pushing for and breaking new ground. Sure it drifts off traditional heavy metal on some tracks, but so what hey? Visions for a prime example ain't your typical Priest song and yet it's my favourite song on that album. If there is anything to be disappointed about, it is for too few of these songs being showcased in the band's setlist on this tour so far. And I like surely a lot of other people, cannot wait when the Nostradamus tour rolls out and they play this masterpiece in its entirety. May Nostradamus go down as one of the amazing wonders and masterpieces in history of all heavy metal, it truly deserves such praise. |
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