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"you may be the first person who hates free wheel burning!"
No, I was the first one. 
Then again... after few rounds it kinda grew on me. 
Seriously speaking, I first felt it was too fast for my liking... but I just needed to get used to it!
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you may be the first person who hates free wheel burning!
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OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better.
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LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible.
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All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo.
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I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
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I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:46:25 PM | |
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i see your passing the bong around J .D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEEERRRRRR.lol
.just joking with you man.lol.DEFENDERS SMOKES VENGEANCE EASILY.THIS IS WAR
SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE JUST DOES NOT DO MUCH FOR ME
DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH DOES ALOT FOR ME [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:29:39 PM) |  | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close. |  | icecreamman wrote: | | I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:29:39 PM | |
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icecreamman wrote: "Take These Chains ruins SFV"
Thats how I feel about "Night Comes Down" off Defenders Of The Faith but it didn't "ruin" the entire album for me. The Hellion/Electric Eye,Riding On The wind,Bloodstone,Pain And Pleasure,Screaming For Vengeance,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Devil's Child makes up 8 songs an album's worth of material that beats Defenders in my opinion however it is very close. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, August 09, 2010 7:28:38 PM) |  | icecreamman wrote: | | I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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[ron h] Monday, August 09, 2010 9:33:34 PM | |
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[Head banger] Monday, August 09, 2010 8:20:10 PM | |
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what? 6 million posts saying "yeah me too" or "right I agree" wouldnt be awesome? [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, August 09, 2010 7:28:38 PM) |  | icecreamman wrote: | | I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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[icecreamman] Monday, August 09, 2010 7:28:38 PM | |
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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[icecreamman] Monday, August 09, 2010 7:28:38 PM | |
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I prefer DOF to SFV, it's close but I prefer Defenders. Take these Chains ruins SFV, I actually like Fever. Not a bad song on DOF at least not in my opinion. AOR is great also, Revolution is a track I can sometimes get into. The rest of AOR is killer, to me again. Painkiller is another great album, British Steel and Stained Class also. Each with thier own sound and personalities. I think Sin after Sin is one of the most influental metal albums of all time, but some people do not agree with me that is the way it is. I love Freewheel Burning (I HATE THE VIDEO), some of you do not. If everyone agreed the board would suck. That is the way it is.
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The Freewheel Burning Video may not be thier best I agree but it beats the hell out of the Turbo Lover video by far haha! The song "Freewheel Burning" to me is a classic,it never bothered me at all and I still like the track,its "Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive,Night Comes Down"...those 3 songs are "weak" and this is why I rate Angel Of Retribution over Defenders Of The Faith.
I'd take Revolution,Worth Fighting For and Angel over Rock Hard Ride Free,Eat Me Alive and Night Comes Down anyday. Screaming For Vengeance is better as the only weak links on that album are Take These Chains and Fever. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, August 08, 2010 9:57:31 AM) |  | spapad wrote: | | Maybe if they had not scared me for life with the video, I could enjoy the song, but the vid is just plain awful! All I think about when I hear that song is how much I can't stand that Vid! I find "Don't Go" with all its strangeness a better video than Freewheel Burning. |  | ron h wrote: | | Thank you Spa for having the testicular fortitude to post what I couldn't, I don't like Freewheel Burning at all either!! Some Heads are Gonna Roll, Heavy Duty, the anthem DOTF, Jawbreaker (we all know what that word means) they all do absolutely nothing for me. I'm sorry folks, and this is just my personnal opinion, but DOTF took a step backwards from SFV, the start of a backwards spiral they didn't recover from until Painkiller. That, or I ahem grew up lol
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Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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[ron h] Monday, August 09, 2010 4:04:36 AM | |
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I do like DOTF, just not as much as most. Also, when the songs are played live they truly kick ass!! My not caring much for the album is really just that, the album itself (cover / production), but when they're on stage they even make the songs off Turbo rock.
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Never played Missile Command. Played lots of driving games, and way too much Ms. Pacman, but never that one. Still wouldn't change my mind. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:06:53 PM) |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | I referred to what classic? MISSILE COMMAND! |  | spapad wrote: | | Pasha! I played the racing games, and all that. My favorite was Spy wars. I played the games etc... I just thought the vid was cheesy. No changing my mind on this one
|  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, Spa. You were NOT a video game junkie. 16 bit? While the controls for Missle Command were wrong "The End" was classic. For shame.... |  | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better. |  | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible. |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo. |  | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I think its crazy someone wouldn't like Freewheel Burning or the Defenders cd. It has the best studio vocals of Rob Halford next to Painkiller. Also great guitar solos.  |
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I referred to what classic? MISSILE COMMAND! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:03:31 PM) |  | spapad wrote: | | Pasha! I played the racing games, and all that. My favorite was Spy wars. I played the games etc... I just thought the vid was cheesy. No changing my mind on this one
|  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, Spa. You were NOT a video game junkie. 16 bit? While the controls for Missle Command were wrong "The End" was classic. For shame.... |  | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better. |  | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible. |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo. |  | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
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Maybe if they had not scared me for life with the video, I could enjoy the song, but the vid is just plain awful! All I think about when I hear that song is how much I can't stand that Vid! I find "Don't Go" with all its strangeness a better video than Freewheel Burning. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:28:44 PM) |  | ron h wrote: | | Thank you Spa for having the testicular fortitude to post what I couldn't, I don't like Freewheel Burning at all either!! Some Heads are Gonna Roll, Heavy Duty, the anthem DOTF, Jawbreaker (we all know what that word means) they all do absolutely nothing for me. I'm sorry folks, and this is just my personnal opinion, but DOTF took a step backwards from SFV, the start of a backwards spiral they didn't recover from until Painkiller. That, or I ahem grew up lol
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Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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The production isn't the best on Defenders but the songs are great, Freewheel Burning is classic JP along with most of the other tracks..'Love Bites', 'Some Heads...' 'Jawbreaker' 'Night Comes Down' and 'Rock Hard Ride Free'. So although its not my favourite Priest album its def up there.
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ok, thats 2. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:28:44 PM) |  | ron h wrote: | | Thank you Spa for having the testicular fortitude to post what I couldn't, I don't like Freewheel Burning at all either!! Some Heads are Gonna Roll, Heavy Duty, the anthem DOTF, Jawbreaker (we all know what that word means) they all do absolutely nothing for me. I'm sorry folks, and this is just my personnal opinion, but DOTF took a step backwards from SFV, the start of a backwards spiral they didn't recover from until Painkiller. That, or I ahem grew up lol
 |  | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better. |  | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible. |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo. |  | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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[ron h] Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:28:44 PM | |
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Thank you Spa for having the testicular fortitude to post what I couldn't, I don't like Freewheel Burning at all either!! Some Heads are Gonna Roll, Heavy Duty, the anthem DOTF, Jawbreaker (we all know what that word means) they all do absolutely nothing for me. I'm sorry folks, and this is just my personnal opinion, but DOTF took a step backwards from SFV, the start of a backwards spiral they didn't recover from until Painkiller. That, or I ahem grew up lol
 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:27:28 PM) |  | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better. |  | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible. |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo. |  | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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ron h wrote: |
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Budred wrote: |
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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[Head banger] Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:22:55 PM | |
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you may be the first person who hates free wheel burning! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:27:28 PM) |  | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better. |  | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible. |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo. |  | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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ron h wrote: |
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Budred wrote: |
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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[spapad] Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:03:31 PM | |
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Pasha! I played the racing games, and all that. My favorite was Spy wars. I played the games etc... I just thought the vid was cheesy. No changing my mind on this one
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:31:20 PM) |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | Oh, Spa. You were NOT a video game junkie. 16 bit? While the controls for Missle Command were wrong "The End" was classic. For shame.... |  | spapad wrote: | | OK, you want to know what did it for me with DOF. Freewheel Burning, sucks as a song and a video. That's why I put DOF under SFV. I hate that song, and I hate the video. I'll put anything on SFV against Freewheel burning and it will sound better to me. I just hate that song. Why in the Hell did they make that a video? Love bites was much better. |  | Becks wrote: | | LOL, cock rock. SFV kicks arse, that album is never far away from my CD player in my car lol. At the moment though DOTF rules the roost, I love the dark overtones of the album as a whole. The Sentinel is awesome because the most violent and dark part of the song is also the slowest musically, it's very cool. I love both albums but agree that SFV is more accessible. |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | All of them, the album as a whole, SFV is way more upbeat and the songs a bit more accessible I think. DOTF is quite a menacing kind of album for want of a better word, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker, Rock Hard Ride Free, Love Bites, Some Heads Are Gonna Roll plus the ones you mentioned are just darker songs than those on SFV. SFV, with the exception of the title track and Bloodstone is the closest thing Priest have to cock rock apart from Turbo. |  | ron h wrote: | | I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Budred wrote: |
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
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ron h wrote: |
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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