| [Head banger] Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:23:17 PM | |
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well, here banks make more than oil companies, but.... what to do about it. the real thing would be to eliminate all the tax dodges and make the tax code one page long. but that wont happen.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:59:06 PM)| |  | spapad wrote: | | You can't see the vid? Well, essentially it said that we can't tax the rich, we are just supposed to wait until their trousers grow so heavy from money that some coins fall out and the rat hunting little guys might grab a few coins, and we cant tax the middle class because they are the ones who get things done in this country, but we should go after the poor who earn less than 30,000 per year and if for tax deductions and excetera, they actually end up getting a refund then they are the ones who should be serving in the military. I only earn 24,000 a year and support a child and manage. So by the conservatives standards I would be going to Iraq. Good idea!
BTW Exxon made more than any company last year, and because of off shore contracts paid not one penny of tax to the U.S.
Bout summs it up.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | wish I could see it. not available in canada. that pisses me off.
| | | spapad wrote: | | HA!!! The rat chasers!!! Gotta love it! I guess I'm going to Irag because I make less than 30,000 a year and am a single Mom! I'm scum!! lol
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You can't see the vid? Well, essentially it said that we can't tax the rich, we are just supposed to wait until their trousers grow so heavy from money that some coins fall out and the rat hunting little guys might grab a few coins, and we cant tax the middle class because they are the ones who get things done in this country, but we should go after the poor who earn less than 30,000 per year and if for tax deductions and excetera, they actually end up getting a refund then they are the ones who should be serving in the military. I only earn 24,000 a year and support a child and manage. So by the conservatives standards I would be going to Iraq. Good idea!
BTW Exxon made more than any company last year, and because of off shore contracts paid not one penny of tax to the U.S.
Bout summs it up.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:45:33 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | wish I could see it. not available in canada. that pisses me off.
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:45:33 PM | |
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wish I could see it. not available in canada. that pisses me off.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:41:09 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | HA!!! The rat chasers!!! Gotta love it! I guess I'm going to Irag because I make less than 30,000 a year and am a single Mom! I'm scum!! lol
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| [spapad] Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:41:09 PM | |
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HA!!! The rat chasers!!! Gotta love it! I guess I'm going to Irag because I make less than 30,000 a year and am a single Mom! I'm scum!! lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:30:54 PM)| | | ron h wrote: | | |
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| [I.M.P.] Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:58:35 PM | |
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That was a knee slapper. I remember that. The problem with the health care reform debate here in America was that it was split into two artificial choices-let people die and go bankrupt, or insure everyone! This does not make sense. The "solution" does not address the problem, but adds more to our national ills. Every gov't agency is bleeding out of every orifice, and it is getting worse with each day (or bill) passing.
Been reading "The Creature From Jekyll Island" lately. Anybody read it? Talks about the Federal Reserve, bailouts, our money. The more one finds out about our federal reserve, fractional reserve banking, bailouts, and our debt backed currency, the more one begins to wonder how long this will all last.
Going to track down my copy of War is a Racket as well.
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:19:58 AM | |
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dunno. not in a position to discuss. heard about it on the radio briefly. some woman was saying all doctors would quit seeing insured patients and that everyone would have to buy insurance, which seemed kind of contradictory. how would no doctor deal with insurance if all patients must have insurance.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:17:24 PM)| | | ron h wrote: | | | Hmmmm...I'm very suprised no one has had anything to say about the new Health Care Bill that's just been passed in the good 'ol U.S. od A. |
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| [spapad] Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:40:45 PM | |
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:06:00 PM | |
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The cap should be on how much the lawyers can charge. The percentage taken by lawyers is ridiculous compared to what the claimant ends up getting.
So it's hard to have lawyers restrict lawyer earnings since most, if not all law-makers are...yes...lawyers. It's a conflict of interest and the poor man loses every time. Unless there are major riots going on for a prolonged length of time, the guys upstairs won't listen. See how easy the current administration folded because of the set up protests at local level gatherings. |
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| [Bev] Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:33:13 AM | |
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Almost included the cost of frivolous lawsuits but I believe a cap is in place with regard to how much a claimant is entitled? It's still an issue for physicians as insurance costs mount for them as well.
Also, is the ever present unscrupulous caregiver / insurance / pharmiceutical co men nage a trois - lol, and the predetorial nature in the way some patients' fraudulently file claims, making it more difficult for the legitimate claimant and physician to have an affordable relationship.
All these issues have been mentioned before. There will likely be no perfect healthcare system until eveyone accepts how they factor in the equation. By and large the system, as I see it anyway, attempts to level the field for all concerned. Yes, even me the middle guy. By this age I am prolly not gonna encounter any major illness. By the time I do, I will be old enough to file for medicare. Any unforseen issues, well, I should have planned well in advance for those when I was earning a decent living, right? ; )
Think that's all I have on the subject.
If you'd like to take a look at the links to HIPPA / COBRA
www.dol.gov/ebsa/newsroom/fshipaa.html / www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_cobra.HTML
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:26:15 AM | |
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I think that finding a way to cap costs, be it thru legislation or increasing competition will be the key to any healthcare changes in the US. my brother was in a car accident there years ago. trip to hospital cost 10K(car insurance paid eventualy)
itemized bill included 2 asprin fo $110. now that might have been to factor in the nurse bringing them to him, but still...
I dunno how much room there is for tax increases, but there is room to work on the cost side.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bev from Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:21:21 AM)| | | Bev wrote: | | | Any healthcare changes will come down to budget amendments. Since 2001 there have been many catestrophic events that have redirected dollars: armed conflict, hurricane(s), etc. Until the coffers are restored via tax increases, and the insurance companies and medical supply companies capping costs / wages, it will be a long road to reform. |
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| Any healthcare changes will come down to budget amendments. Since 2001 there have been many catestrophic events that have redirected dollars: armed conflict, hurricane(s), etc. Until the coffers are restored via tax increases, and the insurance companies and medical supply companies capping costs / wages, it will be a long road to reform. |
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If the family won the case in court, the court costs and fees are paid by the DPW. IMO Eminent Domain should only be used when extensive studies prove there is no way around it, it should be the law of last resort.
If you become incorporated, then perhaps your roads nearby have a chance at being improved.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 14, 2009 7:23:55 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | We just got through a BIG battle here by the Department of Public Works who wanted to do a land snatch on a farm that had been in a family for 100 years. Imminent Domain. Bunch of crap if you ask me. Right to steal someone's land for the good of the public?! They had a massive battle and the city decided to save face and build a bit down the road (who knows HOW much it cost the family to defend themselves.....signs / lawsuits / etc). Absurd.
I am really just waiting for the day when they declare my side of the street part of the "city proper" and incorporate us. Sooner or later, I'd guess. Best prepare to prove my septic system is up to par, eh?
| | | spapad wrote: | | Now here is one that gets me! As far as local Gov goes. A few years back a neighborhood got a little more upscale, and the county anounced they were putting waterlines into the area and if you could not prove you well and septic was up to par, you where going to be put on the list to be converted to the new water system. Why? Money grubbing bastards!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Depends where you live, my friend. My water only comes from my taps because I have drilled a well system (yes, septic, too), I am just outside the city limits meaning lots of dirt roads that get washed out when a dog sweats, I have to pay the same garbageman personally to pick it up same as the city (literally across the street) and I pay a "rural fire tax." to even be able to call a fireman to cross the street to try and put our a fire. They seriously look up to see if you've paid your tax before coming to (hopefully) save your life. They do NOT have a good history of saving actual houses around here.
I still pay city and county taxes on top of this, mind you. We have one hospital but you really only go there if you are at death's door and they typically medivac you out to Memphis at YOUR expense...insurance or not...doesn't cover. That is yet another tax.
Don't even get me started on the potholes / roadwork around here IN the city. Like I said, all depends on where you live...
| | | Where AmI wrote: | | At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
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You're right, Guido. If you consider you HAVE to own a vehicle to move around $, then you can consider that yet another tax $. I think you also have to have a license to drill a well $, pay a driller $ and pay to be allowed to have the well $
Septic tank has to be emptied every so often $
Are you allowed to burn your own trash so you don't have to pay for removal?
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Depends where you live, my friend. My water only comes from my taps because I have drilled a well system (yes, septic, too), I am just outside the city limits meaning lots of dirt roads that get washed out when a dog sweats, I have to pay the same garbageman personally to pick it up same as the city (literally across the street) and I pay a "rural fire tax." to even be able to call a fireman to cross the street to try and put our a fire. They seriously look up to see if you've paid your tax before coming to (hopefully) save your life. They do NOT have a good history of saving actual houses around here.
I still pay city and county taxes on top of this, mind you. We have one hospital but you really only go there if you are at death's door and they typically medivac you out to Memphis at YOUR expense...insurance or not...doesn't cover. That is yet another tax.
Don't even get me started on the potholes / roadwork around here IN the city. Like I said, all depends on where you live...
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At local level they seem to be doing a good job, and there is more transparency. Water still comes from the taps, roads are still fixed, and taxes are still collected.
But I don't think there will be any significant change regarding health care. |
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