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What should I say? So many things are said before and I agree with a lot of them. I like Nostradamus, not every song but the most of them. It's a good album but not a masterpiece!! I don't want to have another epic. Another Painkiller?? Yeah, but not a copy, I want to have a straight forward ass kicking album and I think everyone of us want it too!! I think one day in the nearest future Priest are saying goodbye to us and that's ok 'Cause I can't imagine that the guys staying on stage in the age of 70's!! Yes, then we all have all their albums and we all have our memories. We all, the band and the fans, are a dream team. We need the band and the band need us!! And for myself they have given to me their best, their very best!! 1 or 2 albums, a live album, a live dvd, I think this will be before the end is coming, but the end is near!! One day Judas Priest is dead. Long live Judas Priest!!
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:26:06 PM | |
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Sorry Necro! I just ran out after the visual I got from JD!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:23:10 PM)| |  | Necroticist wrote: | | w/e ur on = can i have some??
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NO NO NO!!!!!!!! Dude, I would rather you do some shooting!!!!! HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Oh MAN!!! BRUTAL! You sir, have no mercy! No sympathy for your fellow man...No...umm.....CLOTHES!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I LOVE Judas Priest and that is correct hellrider,I am upset because I care for this band,they really mean alot to me personally. I DO like some of Nostradamus,I really do but I want the band to PUSH themselves to do something better.
Maybe it is "SELFISH" of me to expect them to write to MY likings,but I can't help it.
And to DEEP FREEZE..... LOL! No,I am NOT going to go on a shooting spree...LOL!!!! But you might see me on the news running around naked on the streets of Seattle being hosed down by the fire department!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
This might happen guys!!! LOFL FREEZE!!!!!
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:10:26 PM)
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well i really feel we have something special coming our way my good friend.hell who know they are bringing back the retro look for the british steel tour maybe for the next album two my good friend. TRUE HARD CORE BASHING, SCREAMING HEAVY METAL.appoogy wont be nessisary(how ever you spell it. you just really love priest .if you did not you would not so upset.
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hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
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you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
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Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [Necroticist] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:23:10 PM | |
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w/e ur on = can i have some??
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:19:44 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO NO NO!!!!!!!! Dude, I would rather you do some shooting!!!!! HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Oh MAN!!! BRUTAL! You sir, have no mercy! No sympathy for your fellow man...No...umm.....CLOTHES!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Finally someone who can't spell just like me!! HA HA HA!! I suck at spelling!!!
I LOVE Judas Priest and that is correct hellrider,I am upset because I care for this band,they really mean alot to me personally. I DO like some of Nostradamus,I really do but I want the band to PUSH themselves to do something better.
Maybe it is "SELFISH" of me to expect them to write to MY likings,but I can't help it.
And to DEEP FREEZE..... LOL! No,I am NOT going to go on a shooting spree...LOL!!!! But you might see me on the news running around naked on the streets of Seattle being hosed down by the fire department!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
This might happen guys!!! LOFL FREEZE!!!!!
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:10:26 PM)
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well i really feel we have something special coming our way my good friend.hell who know they are bringing back the retro look for the british steel tour maybe for the next album two my good friend. TRUE HARD CORE BASHING, SCREAMING HEAVY METAL.appoogy wont be nessisary(how ever you spell it. you just really love priest .if you did not you would not so upset.
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hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
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you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
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J.D. DIAMOND wrote: |
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Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:19:44 PM | |
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BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO NO NO!!!!!!!! Dude, I would rather you do some shooting!!!!! HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Oh MAN!!! BRUTAL! You sir, have no mercy! No sympathy for your fellow man...No...umm.....CLOTHES!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:15:53 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Finally someone who can't spell just like me!! HA HA HA!! I suck at spelling!!!
I LOVE Judas Priest and that is correct hellrider,I am upset because I care for this band,they really mean alot to me personally. I DO like some of Nostradamus,I really do but I want the band to PUSH themselves to do something better.
Maybe it is "SELFISH" of me to expect them to write to MY likings,but I can't help it.
And to DEEP FREEZE..... LOL! No,I am NOT going to go on a shooting spree...LOL!!!! But you might see me on the news running around naked on the streets of Seattle being hosed down by the fire department!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
This might happen guys!!! LOFL FREEZE!!!!!
(Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:10:26 PM)
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well i really feel we have something special coming our way my good friend.hell who know they are bringing back the retro look for the british steel tour maybe for the next album two my good friend. TRUE HARD CORE BASHING, SCREAMING HEAVY METAL.appoogy wont be nessisary(how ever you spell it. you just really love priest .if you did not you would not so upset.
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hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
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hellrider 31038 wrote: |
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you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
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J.D. DIAMOND wrote: |
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Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:15:53 PM | |
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Finally someone who can't spell just like me!! HA HA HA!! I suck at spelling!!!
I LOVE Judas Priest and that is correct hellrider,I am upset because I care for this band,they really mean alot to me personally. I DO like some of Nostradamus,I really do but I want the band to PUSH themselves to do something better.
Maybe it is "SELFISH" of me to expect them to write to MY likings,but I can't help it.
And to DEEP FREEZE..... LOL! No,I am NOT going to go on a shooting spree...LOL!!!! But you might see me on the news running around naked on the streets of Seattle being hosed down by the fire department!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
This might happen guys!!! LOFL FREEZE!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:10:26 PM)
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well i really feel we have something special coming our way my good friend.hell who know they are bringing back the retro look for the british steel tour maybe for the next album two my good friend. TRUE HARD CORE BASHING, SCREAMING HEAVY METAL.appoogy wont be nessisary(how ever you spell it. you just really love priest .if you did not you would not so upset.
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hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
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hellrider 31038 wrote: |
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you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
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J.D. DIAMOND wrote: |
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Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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well i really feel we have something special coming our way my good friend.hell who know they are bringing back the retro look for the british steel tour maybe for the next album two my good friend. TRUE HARD CORE BASHING, SCREAMING HEAVY METAL.appoogy wont be nessisary(how ever you spell it. you just really love priest .if you did not you would not so upset.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:54:21 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Oh MAN!! It's no wonder you are so dire in your comments!! HA!!!!!!!! Steady, my friend! Deep breaths. It will be OK!! Yikes! If they do another "Turbo" are you going to go on a shooting spree??? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Everybody run!! A Judas Priest fans got a gun...." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:02:37 PM)
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lol! Well its true Freeze.........if they release another album,I will probably end up in the hospital...I might not be able to take it man!!! lol!!!!
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hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
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you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
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Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:02:37 PM | |
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lol! Well its true Freeze.........if they release another album,I will probably end up in the hospital...I might not be able to take it man!!! lol!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:57:38 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:57:38 PM | |
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HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:54:21 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| when priest decide to call it a day.they are going to want to go out with a bang and not a fizzle.nostradamus was definatly not a bang .i really feel we have something special coming. |
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hellrider I am with you...I should of said that "I do want another Painkiller"...but I don't think that the band "has it in them" anymore..god I hope I am wrong....
There would be nothing more I would enjoy than logging onto this web site with an "apology" for doubting Judas Priest. At least if that happens,I will have to admit I was wrong but at the same time I would get a killer Judas Priest album!
I wish I will have to apologize if there is going to be a next album???
I am "afraid" of Judas Priest......opening up a new CD from them and putting it on to listen to is like trying to cut the right wires to a "bomb". Its that scarry to me.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:41:14 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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Well guys, PLEASE keep in mind that what I am saying here is strictly opinion. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that the Band would purposely do an album that they "knew" would be a disappointment. I mean, that makes no sense to me at all. Perhaps they were less interested in how it was received and more interested in how it was done? I have no idea but they are professionals and, as such, I am pretty sure they did Nostradamus with an eye towards selling it. In that regard, they would want the largest possible "buying" audience they could get, right?
I loved AoR. I really did. Great album. Don't care for every song but I can say that about pretty much every album. I don't have to like every song to think the album is great. As far as "damage" control, well...I do not believe they have done any damage. It is just one album. Again, just my opinion of course. As for Rob, I am prettty sure that anyone can have an "off night" but I see things that maybe not everyone else can see. Perhaps it is just age? Maybe he is not as healthy as he once was? Maybe he really is losing interest or just plain tired? I have NO idea because I do not know him personally. I saw the Band in 2005, 2006 and 2008. Each time I saw them, Rob seemed to labor and looked tired. The last time (Palms 2008) he seemed disinterested. Now, that is MY observation.
They still put on one helluva show. They are better than many bands these days half their age! They still play the classics and I still love to hear them, even though Rob's voice is not what it was thirty years ago. I understand that. I accept it. There are plenty of songs in their collection to thrill and entertain. Someday they will retire. Time marches on. I really hope they are not done yet. I have not lost "the faith" just yet!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:07:25 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [hellrider 31038] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:45:41 PM | |
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think positive freeze there will be a paaaaainkillllller 2
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [hellrider 31038] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:41:14 PM | |
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you know you want another painkiller 2 and sure as hell me to J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRR
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:07:25 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [Necroticist] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:35:04 PM | |
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| DF hit the nail on the head - Rob looks bored with JP - maybe the solo stuff will be better - idk - here's hoiping tho. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:07:25 PM | |
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Freeze,maybe its about "time" that the band "should" hang it up and call it a day. There will never be a Painkiller 2 or do I want a Painkiller part 2. But the band could of easily created another album
that is in the same vien as Angel Of Retribution without copying it. Instead,they chose an album that they knew would not please "long-time-fans" in Nostradamus.
That is thier choice,not ours.
I agree with you 99% but the other 1% leaves me with the thought of: " I would rather just see them retire NOW than put out another experimental album".Nostradamus has already done enough damage to old Priest fans.
I guess I am not as much as a Priest fan as everybody here...I'm probly the least Priest fan compared to all of you guys.
I don't want a "box of chocolates" for the next Judas Priest album..."Ya never know what your going to get"....
And if Rob is showing his signs of wear & tear especially on stage,then he needs to force Judas Priest into retirement. I am happy with that.I don't really want another Judas Priest album after what you just told us all,that scares me.
We will all have the memories,the concerts(I have'nt seen Judas Priest since 1988 Ram It Down Tour) and the albums. I do not own "Nostradamus" and I might never own it.
But I do have and love Angel Of Retribution,and if I get a Priest craving then I can always put it on and listen to it.
Again,after what you have told us about Rob on stage,I am cool with Judas Priest to retire,please do not let there be a next LP.
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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Well, yes, of course. Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed Maiden, and I would go again, even for the same price. It just isnt a way to treat fans, imo. I dont think you get the same attitude there, at least I hope not. A lot of bands, when they come here, they usualy go along these lines: "Well, lets just play a couple of songs to these easterners, who cares about them anyway." Thats why we get shows (if we even get them in the first place) that rarely last more than an hour and a half, with the band looking downright bored, like theyre doing it just so they can move on to the next, more important show. Now, I guess we have to understand them - they play a lot of shows in a lot of places, but still... If anyone thinks that we will be prepared to pay money to get looked down on, they are terribly wrong. I know that it isnt an investment - I dont go to shows to have any financial benefits from it.
I hope Priest are different. I dont know if they are, but lets just hope.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:41:44 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Well said, Ellieke! Well said, indeed.
Strat, so long as you make it a formula you will not be happy my friend. Breaking it down to a price per hour is not going to work out as a financially sound investment for your dollar (pound, lira, ruble, whatever.) This is entertainment, not a service. Sort of like gambling. I understand your point but you have to look at it as art. You pay a price for a piece. If they play longer, great. If they play shorter, so be it. You pay for the moment. That will never be a good "investment", especially when money is tight.
I look at it as a memory that I cannot put into a value. It remains with me forever..like the '79 show I mentioned. I may have paid twenty bucks for my ticket back then and it was a lot for me as a college student but I did it anyway.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Lol... Just dont make me say that Reagan was a good president, ok?
In any case, yeah, I hope so too. I hope they reschedule the show in Zagreb... But even then, if its during the work week, and costs more than 50 or 60€, then there is no way Im going. Fan or no fan, I remember Maiden - 55€ for an hour and a half. Robbery, if you ask me. And they were here - if I am going to drive for 2 hours in one direction, Priest better make a good show.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | AAARRRRGGGHHH!! NOOOOO!!!!!!! I take it ALL back!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!! You know strat, I really do hope you get the opportunity to see them once. In all the times that I have seen them, I will NEVER forget the 1979 show. Never. I don't think I have ever heard a voice like that before or since! Incredible.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I agree (oh, the TORTURE!!! lmao). If they had average jobs, they would be retiring by now. Well, maybe not Travis, but all the rest would.
I would like to see them live at least once, tho. I guess I would be the last generation. But... The CDs and the DVDs are immortal.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [Ellieke] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:52:49 AM | |
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My believe is , when you realy want something , go for it !
It's mayby a lot of money but start saving now and how knows 
I know how hard life can be , we have 4 kids and a grandson living at home , we had our share of "troubble" years , but we realy wanted to make it better and we did.
So, if you realy want to see them , save now , bit by bit , and you will enjoy every penny you payed for your ticket |
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:41:44 AM | |
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Well said, Ellieke! Well said, indeed.
Strat, so long as you make it a formula you will not be happy my friend. Breaking it down to a price per hour is not going to work out as a financially sound investment for your dollar (pound, lira, ruble, whatever.) This is entertainment, not a service. Sort of like gambling. I understand your point but you have to look at it as art. You pay a price for a piece. If they play longer, great. If they play shorter, so be it. You pay for the moment. That will never be a good "investment", especially when money is tight.
I look at it as a memory that I cannot put into a value. It remains with me forever..like the '79 show I mentioned. I may have paid twenty bucks for my ticket back then and it was a lot for me as a college student but I did it anyway.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:07:00 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Lol... Just dont make me say that Reagan was a good president, ok?
In any case, yeah, I hope so too. I hope they reschedule the show in Zagreb... But even then, if its during the work week, and costs more than 50 or 60€, then there is no way Im going. Fan or no fan, I remember Maiden - 55€ for an hour and a half. Robbery, if you ask me. And they were here - if I am going to drive for 2 hours in one direction, Priest better make a good show.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | AAARRRRGGGHHH!! NOOOOO!!!!!!! I take it ALL back!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!! You know strat, I really do hope you get the opportunity to see them once. In all the times that I have seen them, I will NEVER forget the 1979 show. Never. I don't think I have ever heard a voice like that before or since! Incredible.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I agree (oh, the TORTURE!!! lmao). If they had average jobs, they would be retiring by now. Well, maybe not Travis, but all the rest would.
I would like to see them live at least once, tho. I guess I would be the last generation. But... The CDs and the DVDs are immortal.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [Ellieke] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:23:44 AM | |
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It's like Deep Freeze said , they won't be touring forever , there will be a day that they have to stop or drop dead on stage ( let's hope that doesn't happen) but aslong as they are here for us , let us just enjoy what they bring us.
They will never die in my heart so , just live your life to the fullest and fill your days with laughter and music , JP music !!
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:07:00 AM | |
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Lol... Just dont make me say that Reagan was a good president, ok?
In any case, yeah, I hope so too. I hope they reschedule the show in Zagreb... But even then, if its during the work week, and costs more than 50 or 60€, then there is no way Im going. Fan or no fan, I remember Maiden - 55€ for an hour and a half. Robbery, if you ask me. And they were here - if I am going to drive for 2 hours in one direction, Priest better make a good show.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:52:19 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | AAARRRRGGGHHH!! NOOOOO!!!!!!! I take it ALL back!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!! You know strat, I really do hope you get the opportunity to see them once. In all the times that I have seen them, I will NEVER forget the 1979 show. Never. I don't think I have ever heard a voice like that before or since! Incredible.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I agree (oh, the TORTURE!!! lmao). If they had average jobs, they would be retiring by now. Well, maybe not Travis, but all the rest would.
I would like to see them live at least once, tho. I guess I would be the last generation. But... The CDs and the DVDs are immortal.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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AAARRRRGGGHHH!! NOOOOO!!!!!!! I take it ALL back!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!! You know strat, I really do hope you get the opportunity to see them once. In all the times that I have seen them, I will NEVER forget the 1979 show. Never. I don't think I have ever heard a voice like that before or since! Incredible.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:48:40 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I agree (oh, the TORTURE!!! lmao). If they had average jobs, they would be retiring by now. Well, maybe not Travis, but all the rest would.
I would like to see them live at least once, tho. I guess I would be the last generation. But... The CDs and the DVDs are immortal.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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I agree (oh, the TORTURE!!! lmao). If they had average jobs, they would be retiring by now. Well, maybe not Travis, but all the rest would.
I would like to see them live at least once, tho. I guess I would be the last generation. But... The CDs and the DVDs are immortal.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [Deep Freeze] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44:30 AM | |
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I guess I will finally comment. Not so much about the bickering, as I have long ago taken my fill of that nonsense but of Priest and Nostradamus and their possible next album.
Nostradamus is OK by me. It is not a "masterpiece", for me. It is not a "disaster", for me. It is just OK. I can understand what the Band was trying to do. All fine by me. Someone a few posts down said something that makes the most sense to me...it was about Rob. Here's where I am going with this;
I have said to many of you (in private) that I sense Rob is losing his interest or just plain tiring. I hate to put it that way but I find that I cannot explain it another way. His vibe onstage during the Vegas show last year was one of weariness (Yes. I know it was the final show of that leg!). He made the comment during several shows last year, "..the Priest is back!...Again!" The way he punched the word "again" gave me pause. Has he reached the end? I cannot say. Certainly there are classic songs (Painkiller, Sinner) that really suffer now because he is unable to sing as he did thirty years ago. Please don't get me wrong! The music and the show are still awesome! But, Rob and the others are obviously not in their twenties anymore and it shows. Moreso with Rob's voice in the more challenging pieces.
There will never be a Painkiller II. There cannot be. There is no way Rob can do those kinds of songs. Moreover, it is becoming clearer to me that he may have reached the point where he is physically unable to do this. I am (nearly) fifty and I know I could not tour, regardless of my health issues. The guys are ,what?..sixty-something? People! Come on! The physical demands of touring as one passes sixty and heads towards seventy are remarkable!
I would hate to say good-bye to the guys on a professional level. I love them and their music. I am also a realist. Nothing lasts forever. If they do have another album in them, I am ready to hear it. If it is a follow-up to Nostradamus, so be it. I will listen. If they return to a more "classic" sound, I will listen. If (and we ALL know someday they WILL) they decide to say good-bye, I will always have what they left us. GREAT music and a lifetime of wonderful memories. |
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| [Head banger] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:23:57 AM | |
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| JD, probably 50% would LOL |
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| [Ellieke] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:43:25 AM | |
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Everybody has his or her opinion, for me it's easy
As long as Rob sings and the band plays I'll be a fan. Not for their work in de future because we can't know what the future will bring , but for the things they did and brought us in the past. |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:23:52 AM | |
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Yup. "Ancient forest of Elves" is a masterpiece. Very melodic, a lot of great guitar licks... Just the way I like it.
Manowar & Rhapsody, eh? Well, I guess I can hope invain that they stop anywhere close... But since they probably wont, I will jsut content myself with CDs...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:04:38 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Strange comparison...anyway - Luca Turilli solo is bloody amazing too, either under own name or with DreamQuest...last i heard they were touring with Manowar (Rhapsody i mean)
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, most metal bands have some Priest in them. I mentioned Rhapsody because they orchestrate their songs a lot, and have medieval - heroic fantasy themes... Nostradamus just reminds me of them.
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | OMG! u hit my heart strings....power metal sings to me....stratovarius, rhapsody etc....but is obvious in most they have a JP influence
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Do we? I just type whatever the voices tell me.
But yeah... Im a power metal fan, as is well known, and Nostradamus to me is a step into the direction of the bands like Rhapsody of Fire... Which is great, as far as Im concerned.
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Good to hear mate - shows we all have our own opinions.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... I will be the devils advocate here, I guess... I hope that the next Priest album will be something very close to Nostradamus.
I love Nostradamus, great sound, great theme, great songs... Ok, too many interludes, but that aside, I think it eats AOR: |
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| [Phantom A6] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:14:47 AM | |
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Ts, ts, ts, ts, ts... 
I'm going to kick their ass if they do it!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:48:26 AM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think that Judas Priest could release an album exactly like "The Culture Club" and 99% of fans on this forum would say "ITS BRILLIANT" and our JP can do no wrong!!! lol!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:10:47 AM | |
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Don't be to sure DelivererofEvil,....don't be to sure. It would'nt suprise me in the least at this point.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by DelivererofEvil from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:08:16 AM)| | | DelivererofEvil wrote: | | Not true J.D.
Because they'd never release such an album! 
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think that Judas Priest could release an album exactly like "The Culture Club" and 99% of fans on this forum would say "ITS BRILLIANT" and our JP can do no wrong!!! lol!
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| [DelivererofEvil] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:08:16 AM | |
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Not true J.D.
Because they'd never release such an album!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:48:26 AM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think that Judas Priest could release an album exactly like "The Culture Club" and 99% of fans on this forum would say "ITS BRILLIANT" and our JP can do no wrong!!! lol!
Edited at: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:51:04 AM |
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| [Necroticist] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:04:38 AM | |
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Strange comparison...anyway - Luca Turilli solo is bloody amazing too, either under own name or with DreamQuest...last i heard they were touring with Manowar (Rhapsody i mean)
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:55:54 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, most metal bands have some Priest in them. I mentioned Rhapsody because they orchestrate their songs a lot, and have medieval - heroic fantasy themes... Nostradamus just reminds me of them.
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | OMG! u hit my heart strings....power metal sings to me....stratovarius, rhapsody etc....but is obvious in most they have a JP influence
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Do we? I just type whatever the voices tell me.
But yeah... Im a power metal fan, as is well known, and Nostradamus to me is a step into the direction of the bands like Rhapsody of Fire... Which is great, as far as Im concerned.
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Good to hear mate - shows we all have our own opinions.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... I will be the devils advocate here, I guess... I hope that the next Priest album will be something very close to Nostradamus.
I love Nostradamus, great sound, great theme, great songs... Ok, too many interludes, but that aside, I think it eats AOR: |
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| [DelivererofEvil] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:02:37 AM | |
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People... Another Painkiller is physically impossible and would be a boring album in my opinion.
Just as boring would be another Angel of Retribution, another Sad Wings, another Defenders, etc.
I get your points Necro and J.D., I really do understand where you're looking at this from. Still, get real, people.
I don't want another Nostradamus, I'd very much prefer a finish in glory with some good Heavy Metal that none other can do but the Priest. If a Nostradamus part two comes out, I will buy it, I will listen to it and seek something in it that I like, and I can guess that I will like the album.
Honestly, I prefer another thing like Nostradamus to a tired, forced copy of any of its predecessors. I don't want a radical change in their sound, I think Nostradamus was experimental enough thank you. Again PRIEST really are like a box of chocolates! It's a love it or hate it situation.
Also, there is something you haven't taken into account and it'll be my last argument in this discussion:
There are younger people coming into Heavy Metal. People who weren't around to see the hay days of Screaming or Defenders, or even Painkiller. Don't those people deserve to have a contact with the Metal Gods, live at least?
You mention that the band should wrap it up and call it a day, but you've seen them more than once I'll wager. Let me give you my example: I am seventeen years old, younger than Painkiller by a year. March 2008 was my first PRIEST gig, and it was the best thing in the world for me. The feeling of the first time watching the PRIEST is undeniably GREAT! Or am I wrong?
I saw them on the Nostradamus tour, mind you, with two songs off that new album. But the rest of the concert was a show of pure classics: Sinner, Rock Hard Ride Free, Dissident Agressor (WWOOO!), Electric Eye and then the encore: The Green Manalishi, You've Got Another Thing Coming and Hell Bent For Leather.
If it takes another Nostradamus to have them come on tour again, let us have it! I got that urge to see them again, and there are people who have NEVER seen them, and if they call it a day now, never will. For this younger generation of Heavy Metal fans, and I'm talking the real ones, defenders of the Heavy Metal Faith like the Priest and their spawn have preached since 1976!
WATCHED THE MOVEMENT GROW
INTO ONE VOICE
TOOK ON ALL THE WORLD
IT HAD NO CHOICE
GOTTA DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
‘CAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IT’S REAL
DONE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
FROM A HEART MADE OF STEEL
WE HIT AT NIGHT
YOU’RE IN OUR SIGHT
THEN WE CAN FEEL
WHAT WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR
LET ME HEAR YOU ROAR
UPON THIS STAGE
WE LET IT RAGE
AND FOR A TIME WE LEAVE THE WORLD BEHIND
TO BE WITH OUR OWN KIND
GOTTA DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
‘CAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IT’S REAL
DONE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL
FROM A HEART MADE OF STEEL
HEAVY METAL. PERIOD. |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:55:54 AM | |
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Well, most metal bands have some Priest in them. I mentioned Rhapsody because they orchestrate their songs a lot, and have medieval - heroic fantasy themes... Nostradamus just reminds me of them.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:48:53 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | OMG! u hit my heart strings....power metal sings to me....stratovarius, rhapsody etc....but is obvious in most they have a JP influence
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Do we? I just type whatever the voices tell me.
But yeah... Im a power metal fan, as is well known, and Nostradamus to me is a step into the direction of the bands like Rhapsody of Fire... Which is great, as far as Im concerned.
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Good to hear mate - shows we all have our own opinions.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... I will be the devils advocate here, I guess... I hope that the next Priest album will be something very close to Nostradamus.
I love Nostradamus, great sound, great theme, great songs... Ok, too many interludes, but that aside, I think it eats AOR: |
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| [Necroticist] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:48:53 AM | |
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OMG! u hit my heart strings....power metal sings to me....stratovarius, rhapsody etc....but is obvious in most they have a JP influence
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:44:53 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Do we? I just type whatever the voices tell me.
But yeah... Im a power metal fan, as is well known, and Nostradamus to me is a step into the direction of the bands like Rhapsody of Fire... Which is great, as far as Im concerned.
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Good to hear mate - shows we all have our own opinions.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... I will be the devils advocate here, I guess... I hope that the next Priest album will be something very close to Nostradamus.
I love Nostradamus, great sound, great theme, great songs... Ok, too many interludes, but that aside, I think it eats AOR: |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:48:26 AM | |
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I think that Judas Priest could release an album exactly like "The Culture Club" and 99% of fans on this forum would say "ITS BRILLIANT" and our JP can do no wrong!!! lol!
Edited at: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:51:04 AM |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:44:53 AM | |
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Do we? I just type whatever the voices tell me.
But yeah... Im a power metal fan, as is well known, and Nostradamus to me is a step into the direction of the bands like Rhapsody of Fire... Which is great, as far as Im concerned.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:41:10 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Good to hear mate - shows we all have our own opinions.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... I will be the devils advocate here, I guess... I hope that the next Priest album will be something very close to Nostradamus.
I love Nostradamus, great sound, great theme, great songs... Ok, too many interludes, but that aside, I think it eats AOR: |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:43:59 AM | |
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Yeah Nocro...I think in my opinion that Angel Of Retribution is a classic great album,I have no problem with Retribution at all except for "Lochness", I actually like the first 9 tracks off that album.It is not as aggresive as Painkiller no,but it reminds me of an album like Defenders Of The Faith,but better in my opinion.
I'm not sure if the band has it in them to create another LP as agressive as Painkiller though.
I do love this band,but not as much as 85% of the fans on this forum,thats for sure...maybe even 95% of them.
I'm tired of "suprises"......I would like to see a british heavy metal album like Angel Of Retribution but not a carbon copy of it.
I don't know Necroticist,I don't have much faith in them ever releasing another kick ass album from start to finish.....
....if they start to write one then they will probly stop and say: "It's not different enough".... who knows.
I'm tired of guessing.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:34:46 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | O god - there better be a next one...although all i hear is about Rob solo - think he has a bit of a complex....i'm hoping for a direct judas priest classic....like Painkiller - let's face it - the few previous were a little tame....then BANG - in ya face. THAt's what i wanna hear. Til then i'll say Primal Fear are the new JP....
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | lol! Yeah I seem to can't spell worth a shit Necroticist! lol!! I am not afraid to admit that "I lost faith" in Judas Priest after Nostradamus.
I don't think that the next album will be like Angel Of Retribution,I think its going to be like Nostradamus.
And I will think this until the band puts out the next album,if there is going to be a next album.???
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | | at least spell the nick right...lol - anyway - yes we all know they can do better - i kinda lost faith after they turned down ralf from primal fear as vocalist and went with tim....but AOR sure knocked me for 6 - they CAN and hopefully will do better....Nostradamus just wasn't 'it' for me....and judging by the live shows....Rob has lost heart...here's hoping for better... |
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| [Necroticist] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:41:10 AM | |
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Good to hear mate - shows we all have our own opinions.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:38:02 AM)| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... I will be the devils advocate here, I guess... I hope that the next Priest album will be something very close to Nostradamus.
I love Nostradamus, great sound, great theme, great songs... Ok, too many interludes, but that aside, I think it eats AOR: |
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| [Ellieke] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:39:48 AM | |
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I'm with you on that _strat_ !
bring it on they can never do me wrong |
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| [_strat_] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:38:02 AM | |
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Well... I will be the devils advocate here, I guess... I hope that the next Priest album will be something very close to Nostradamus.
I love Nostradamus, great sound, great theme, great songs... Ok, too many interludes, but that aside, I think it eats AOR: |
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| [Necroticist] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:34:46 AM | |
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O god - there better be a next one...although all i hear is about Rob solo - think he has a bit of a complex....i'm hoping for a direct judas priest classic....like Painkiller - let's face it - the few previous were a little tame....then BANG - in ya face. THAt's what i wanna hear. Til then i'll say Primal Fear are the new JP....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:26:51 AM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | lol! Yeah I seem to can't spell worth a shit Necroticist! lol!! I am not afraid to admit that "I lost faith" in Judas Priest after Nostradamus.
I don't think that the next album will be like Angel Of Retribution,I think its going to be like Nostradamus.
And I will think this until the band puts out the next album,if there is going to be a next album.???
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | | at least spell the nick right...lol - anyway - yes we all know they can do better - i kinda lost faith after they turned down ralf from primal fear as vocalist and went with tim....but AOR sure knocked me for 6 - they CAN and hopefully will do better....Nostradamus just wasn't 'it' for me....and judging by the live shows....Rob has lost heart...here's hoping for better... |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:26:51 AM | |
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lol! Yeah I seem to can't spell worth a shit Necroticist! lol!! I am not afraid to admit that "I lost faith" in Judas Priest after Nostradamus.
I don't think that the next album will be like Angel Of Retribution,I think its going to be like Nostradamus.
And I will think this until the band puts out the next album,if there is going to be a next album.???
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:22:12 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | | at least spell the nick right...lol - anyway - yes we all know they can do better - i kinda lost faith after they turned down ralf from primal fear as vocalist and went with tim....but AOR sure knocked me for 6 - they CAN and hopefully will do better....Nostradamus just wasn't 'it' for me....and judging by the live shows....Rob has lost heart...here's hoping for better... |
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| [Necroticist] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:22:12 AM | |
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| at least spell the nick right...lol - anyway - yes we all know they can do better - i kinda lost faith after they turned down ralf from primal fear as vocalist and went with tim....but AOR sure knocked me for 6 - they CAN and hopefully will do better....Nostradamus just wasn't 'it' for me....and judging by the live shows....Rob has lost heart...here's hoping for better... |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:16:03 AM | |
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I kinda agree with Nocroticist somewhat...if they are going to put out another album as terrible as Nostradamus,then I don't want another album either!
I read somewhere on this site that K.K. was thinking about making a part two to Nostradamus for the next and possibly last LP,but I don't know if that is true,obviously.
If it is true,then I don't want another CD!
Oh my god,I can't believe it...Judas Priest and Forest Gump have something in common....
Judas Priest releasing a new album is like a box of chocolates........ya never know what your going to get!!!!! LOFL!!!!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Friday, March 13, 2009 3:33:50 PM)
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| Sorry - but i dont want another CD....hated the last one and Rob is better solo imo - dont go off on one...is just my opinion |
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| [Ellieke] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:11:04 AM | |
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next title : JUDAS 4 EVER !!!
songs : don't matter I'm sure they will be amazing again |
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| [Coilerine] Monday, April 20, 2009 10:51:53 PM | |
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ALWAYS WAITING FOR THE BEST....BUT OF COURSE THAT`S WHAT WE`LL GET....THE BEST OF METAL...
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| [abelbrucewesley] Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:20:27 PM | |
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| [EXCITER] Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:35:59 PM | |
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| ......there is nothing but kick ass albums from PRIEST and one epic.So I have no reason to doubt the next one will kick ass too!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| [robrey] Thursday, April 02, 2009 5:28:16 PM | |
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| I know it will be a great work |
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| [Phantom A6] Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:47:49 PM | |
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Hi Becks,
yep, they have to knock me out of my shoes
with the new album!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:44:05 PM)| | | Becks wrote: | | I agree Michael. Only one epic is needed, and I personally believe Nostradamus more than fits that bill! To me it's an amazing record. But personally I hope the next album is straight out and out hard hitting Priest, good solid heavy metal is what they do best and I look forward to any offering they bring to the table!
| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | Another masterpiece - Yes!!
Another epic?? No, 'Cause there is only one epic!!
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