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so waht do u think about terbo?
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judas preist turbo album






   

[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:47:50 PM 

That's not very good.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:45:47 PM)
[Deep Freeze] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:47:06 PM 
Ah!! Well then, a VERY Merry Christmas to you, my friend! We are still a few hours away. Just walked in from a Christmas Eve at the duchess and doges' house. I am full and tired as well!!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:43:58 PM)
[guidogodoy] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:45:47 PM 
Screw y'alls! LOL!!
Edited at: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:46:53 PM
[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:43:58 PM 
Yup. Time is 17.43. Xmas day, I'm stuffed and trying not to fall asleep.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:40:12 PM)
[Deep Freeze] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:40:12 PM 
Is it already Christmas Day there, jj??
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[Deep Freeze] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:38:09 PM 
I thought we were going to talk about "terbo"........HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:38:06 PM 
Evening Freeze, how are you today?
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[guidogodoy] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:37:35 PM 
Nah, we weren't talking about the Bee Gees. LOL!! (you know I love 'em)

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[Deep Freeze] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35:29 PM 
Where? Where??
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:34:35 PM)
[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:34:35 PM 
Speak of the devil!!!
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[Deep Freeze] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:32:37 PM 
What?!??!?!?!????  Someone call me????  HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:29:59 PM)
[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:29:59 PM 
Yeah!!! What the fuck was that? They only did that to appeal to that 1950's rocker type crowd.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:25:54 PM)
[guidogodoy] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:25:54 PM 
I am with you there! Let's talk about Johnny B. Goode! LOL!!!!
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[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:20:07 PM 
I understand that. I'm sure people on the Rolling Stones site are still discussing songs that are 45+ years old. However with Turbo it's always the same old arguments rehashed. What were they thinking? Parental Guidance is a shocker etc. I'd be happy to discuss Island Of Domination for a change instead of this Turbo sellout shit.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:14:48 PM)
[guidogodoy] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:14:48 PM 
I disagree. This song is from '75 and I argue it still has merit for JP.Com
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[jimmyjames] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:10:11 PM 
I think Turbo's 25 years old. Who fucking cares? Why are we talking about something that happened a quarter of a century ago. Lets talk about some more up to date stuff, like the first Gulf War, Frank Sinatras death, the Berlin Wall coming down etc.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:30:21 PM 
ps. Center Grand River across from campus by Flat, black and circular / Peanut Barrel was a store that was probably already gone by the time you arrived. Called "The Man Alive." Anyway, State Discount was on the corner right next to it and all the army / navy and a haircutting place (Public Hair...heh) a travel agency (remember the clock on the outside wall?) and MY store were above it 503 1/2. It was a futon store called...well....the Futon Store! I ran it for five years paying my way through college. Any of this ring a bell?

BTW. I was in EL last year on a road trip and we bartered our way down to the Landshark to just have a bowl. Can you believe that not one person knew what one was?!? They dredged up an old dishwasher or something who made us a shot of something close but no gummie sharks or anything!!

Boy, it sucks to get old. We still had a few each.
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[guidogodoy] Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:21:30 PM 
I was in Rather (Brody). You must have been one of those Akers types! LOL!!! 

We certainly did bump into one another somewhere / someplace. I'll flip back through some of my Junior year Capitol Villa year parties. Wouldn't surprise me if I see you in my pool! HAAAAA!!!!!
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:38:51 PM 
Geez Guido, I'm beginning to think that you have been "stalking" me for a very long time! Or maybe it's the other way around?Hmmmm, I graduated in '88 so you were at MSU for a little while when I was there too? So I guess I've been following YOU around! Can't believe we never ran into each other before this. Damn, we could have had a whole lotta fun! I could have used someone to keep up with me drinking those shark bowls

I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and a GREAT New Year!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, December 24, 2009 4:41:48 PM)
[guidogodoy] Thursday, December 24, 2009 4:41:48 PM 
Well, why didn't you come over and say hello?!? LOL.

Wasn't at '83. I graduated HS in '86.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:15:33 PM 
OK, I just checked and Priest played the Lansing Civic Center NOT Spartan Stadium! Lots of misinformation out there.... but still, they played in LANSING? But just about every tour they hit Wings Stadium - they must have loved that place!
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:03:59 PM 
It's always good to know that you aren't losing your mind.....yet anyway As I was looking up tour dates, I saw that Priest played Spartan Stadium in '83?? REALLY? If only I was 5 years older!! Can you imagine running into them on campus or at one of the bars after the show??

So you were at just about every Priest show that I went to! That is just amazing. What a small world. That Palace show just blew my freakin' mind! Wasn't Scott's drum solo killer? I've never been that impressed with a drum solo - he just kept beating the crap out of that kit! Even though the Palace was only about half full, we were LOUD!
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[guidogodoy] Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:15:01 AM 
Ahhhhh! Many thanks. THAT helps. I have a DVD and VHS both with different dates...one 1990 and another 91. I was at the Alice show at the Knob as well as the one at the Palace (where they rocked the freaking house!!).
 
YES! Finally, confirmation. Megadeth did open for them at the palace (I have the bootleg) while they opened for Alice at the Knob (Alice put on a GREAT show, btw...I went for Priest but was blown away by the theatrics of Alice. Really unexpected.

I knew it! I have a mislabled tape. Once says 1990 and the other 1991. Same show. I KNOW (or would swear to have seen) them open with Hellbent on the first and close with it on another. They closed with it on the Alice tour.

Someone gave me an answer that they played the silverdome?!? Can't prove neither disprove that one. Wings, though, would make sense. Big horrible dome (like the Silverdome...did you see it sold for a few hundred thou? LOL). But that would be an easier mistake to make from a non-Michigander. Thanks!   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:39:47 PM)
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[ProwlerCub] Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:09:39 AM 
JD, thanks for respecting my opinion (a rarity on message boards).  I honestly do not know why I prefer one to the other, certain aspects strike me differently at different times.  To me, it felt like Priest were trying to play to the masses with both Turbo (glam-ish) and Ram It Down (faster music).  I think all of the older metal guys were in the same situation of trying to figure where they fit in with the 80's metal scene, just look at how high Ozzy's hair was teased on the Ultimate Sin record and tour.  I think they tried some new things and some worked, some did not.  I still love the Turbo Lover Hi Octane mix, but I also like a lot of dance music from the 80's (go figure).
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 11:39:47 PM 
Hey Guido! Priest played MI 3 times on the Painkiller tour: Dec 5,1990 at the Palace, Jan. 17, 1991 at Wings Stadium, and August 3, 1991 at Pine Knob (back when it was still called THE KNOB!). The only show I saw on that tour was the Palace show. We were in college and barely scraped the cash together for that show, not to mention it was during finals too. But WHAT A SHOW!!! Yup, the All Guns Blazing DVD is from the Palace show 12/5/90 and it has lines running through it. But it is great to have a video of the show you were actually at especially since we were in the nosebleed seats. By the way, as I mentioned to you, you can totally tell that there was tension between them during the show. Watch it and you'll notice that every time Rob walks toward Glenn they immediately both go in opposite directions. Rob only interacts with KK once and never goes over to Ian at all. I remember leaving that show thinking something was wrong. But did they put on a show, holy crap!! I think the August 1991 date was the tour with Alice Cooper. Megadeath opened for us at the Palace in 1990. So NO, you have not lost it at all, FAR from it!   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:21:32 PM)
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[guidogodoy] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:21:32 PM 
Bad copy of Detroit? It was pro-shot. My VHS even looks better than the dvd. I bet you just got a bad encoding. Seeing little horizontal lines, perhaps? I'll see what I can do to dupe a new copy from the VHS when I get a free minute (?...don't hold your breath).

Riddle me this, though. Am I completely confused or did Priest do two consecutive years of tours in Michigan. I could have sworn that this was the second. Played with Megadeth (I also have that bootleg). While the VHS and DVD have different years on them, it is the same show. 1990 Palace. I could SWEAR that they opened this one with Hell bent but closed with Hell bent on the other tour.

Tell me honestly, have I really lost it?
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:56:29 PM 
HELL YEAH HELLRIDER!! Let's talk about THE MIGHTY PAINKILLER!! That album kicks you in the face right from the beginning and never lets up! Not one bad or mellow song on the entire thing. I saw them in December 1990 at the Palace in Auburn Hills/Detroit. UNBELIEVABLE. Scott's drum solo had the floor and chairs shaking and my teeth were rattling in my head! It was THE BEST drum solo I have ever seen - usually I get bored during them I admit, but Scott's was incredible. And Rob's voice..... OMG..... dead on every single note on every single song. His voice just pierced right through me. We have the bootleg to that show and even though the video quality isn't very good, you can still hear how incredible Rob's vocals were. I have to say they were at the top of their game then. I am really hoping for a return to something like that.
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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:27:05 PM 

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAINKIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLER.


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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:25:19 PM 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Painkiller_(Judas_Priest_album) i got a better idea lets talk about the MIGHTY PAAAAAAAAAAINKILLLLLLLLLLLLER album

[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:11:52 PM 
well  for my state of mind and well being i am going to concentrate on the NEXT ALBUM .like i told you before i heard like 2 seconds of it .lol.im serious..its just all this time going by they could be delivering us some classic albums that we would  cherish for years.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:02:17 PM 
lol! Yeah I know it hellrider,but what have they done recently? Is it the Winter Songs album you are talking about?  I hear what you are saying.I was in a shit mood they other day and got sick of seeing all these christmas metal songs by various artists...my brain needs "metal" and I think it is starving for it,it has to come from the masters,I can deal with it when they retire but for them to be still very active and not cranked out an entire albums worth of classic material in 5 years is getting impatient for myself. I kills me knowing that they can put out an album of excellence "if they wanted to"....

Hopfully they will get the same cravings for oldschool stripped down classic british metal,if they don't...we are fucked. And if they salvage any of those extra tracks from Nostradamus and slap them on the next studio album...we are double fucked hellrider!!! Arrrgh this band is killing me! LOL! Why do I like this band??? lofl hellrider!!!!

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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:01:58 PM 
oh  oh  oh    J.D DIAMOND THE COOOMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRRRR i thought you might be very excited to know i went over to the quorum and found out priest still have some unfinished tracks from nostradamus.
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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:46:08 PM 
yeah J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEERRRRRRRR and they have done it again.my nerves are shot
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:42:39 PM 
Well,with an album title such as "Defenders Of The Faith"(1984) meaning "defending the heavy metal faith" going on and on about how much the faith of heavy metal means to them ect...during the Defenders Of The Faith tour,and then do a compleate 180 turn and head in the opposite direction going against everything they said and create the Turbo album? It didn't make sense to me back in 1986 when they did it,and it doesn't make sense to me know albmost 25 years later. I read an article in 88' where Rob said "If we would of done anything of less quality on the turbo album I think it would of been a let down for myself and the fans". 

He said something like that in the article I read back then,but I think what he was really saying is that after he looked at the album probly a year after its release,he realized they went too far in the other direction of heavy metal,and maybe he was saying it really was a let down,something they got caught up in at the moment back in 1986 where everything that looked like Poison and Motley Crue was selling huge amounts of albums which equals $cash in thy pocket.So I think that they really only did Turbo to get money,not for the "true Judas Priest" fans.They sold out BIG TIME and everybody knows it,the material shows.

Yes there are tons of fans who love Turbo and may think its one of Priest's best records,its up to the beholder to decide,everybody has an opinion.But the over-all majority of Priest fans 90% of them do not care for the Turbo album. I don't think that they "sold out" with Nostradamus though,I really think it was indeed targeted towards the true Judas Priest fanbase but just as something new and different to try out,but again in the same results I think it backfired at them for trying,however the material on Nostradamus is FAR better quality than that of the Turbo album.

I have very little "faith" in this band for hoping that they crank out a heavy metal album but its because of "experiments' they did with albums like Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus....I wish there were 3 bold faced crushing heavy metal albums in the place of those 3 experimental albums,it would of made Judas Priest's discography look much better,but the band is content on trying new things regardless of what the majority of its true fanbase says.  


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[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:57:47 PM 
Really anticlimatic after lyrics like I beleive you're  the devil's child!!!
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:55:55 PM 
But with lyrics like We dont need no ,no, no,no parental guidance here you can't really blame me.
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:53:23 PM 
Actually after Screamin' and Defenders I didnt keep up with Priest much.
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:49:47 PM 
Perhaps but the worst metal album EVER? Damn!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:43:49 PM 
Well,with tracks like "Parental Guidence,Private Property,Rock You All Around The World",and Hot For lOve...how couldn't it be the worst? lol! The only 3 tracks out of 9 tracks that are salvagable are "Out In tHe Cold,Wild Nights and Reckless". The other tracks are an embarressment.
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[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:36:48 PM 
Damn!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:35:33 PM 
In my opinion,the "Turbo" album is not only the worst LP by Judas Priest,but may be the worst LP by ANY heavy metal artist in the last 25 years.
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:27:42 PM 
yeahitscool.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:25:30 PM 
I respect you opinion,but it baffles me that someone could enjoy the Turbo album more so than the Ram It Down album.The title track alone "Ram It Down" is better than any track off Turbo.So is the "Heavy Metal" track,and also for a commercial friendly song..."Come And Get It" is better than any track off of Turbo as well as Hard As Iron and Blood Red Skies. But to each his own. 

Ram It Down while being not one of Priest's better albums is light years better quality than Turbo.
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[ProwlerCub] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:29:58 PM 
I actually like Turbo because there are some catchy songs on there.  Of course I do have a problem with grown men singning about not needing Parental Guidance.  I can see where it is considered a bit of a sell-out album because of the sound and the look the band went for at the time.  IMO it is a lot better than the Ram It Down album (save Blood Red Skies).
[Dale T.] Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:12:03 PM 
This stuff is the greatest. Rob is epic , nobody can beat the music and especially the guitar solos on this. They're out of this world.  Shoot!  Funny thing is these guys can still kick the crap out of bands today and they are almost 60. Halford is the best front man ever. Tip and KK the best tandom on the axes. And of course the Priest magic. Can't touch em.

Edited at: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:15:01 PM
[jimmyjames] Friday, December 18, 2009 4:55:03 PM 
I think it's Turbo, with a u.
[K2M] Friday, December 18, 2009 1:47:47 PM 
Awesome Muscianship. Great creative forces united
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 18, 2009 3:38:51 AM 
No Dale,Jugulator did not have any "thrash" elements in it,Ripper Owen's backing vocals on the song Jugulator("mutilate"!) is not "thrash" it is again british heavy metal at it's heaviest,not fucking "thrash".Obviously you have no idea what "thrash" really is,because Judas Priest has never had any elements of thrash in any of thier songs. And you really think they can do rap or disco and pull it off? Uuhh,ok "fanboy".
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[Dale T.] Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:16:52 PM 
I love Reckless. If Metal Gods wanted to do "disco" or "rap" they would be the one metal band that could pull it off and make it sound good. Jugulator has thrash elements so yes that have done it all. Slipknot, Metallica and all the biggies out there were influenced by Judas Priest, and they were the reason they started to play in the first place. Shoot!! Priest were the defining Heavy Metal gods of the 80s and still are along with Dio, Iron Maiden-True to the Core Classic Heavy metal!! Calling the turbo album "pathetic" IMHO is just nonsense and an insult to the Metal Gods.
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[scthree05] Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:23:27 PM 
i have never been a huge fan of turbo. but i don't think it was a sellout as some claim. it was different and a bit "poppier." but it did create one of my all time favorite songs "reckless." i was born in 1970 and i was one of many that discovered priest with screaming for vengeance. so while i love the stuff before screaming i wasn't listening to them when those records came out. but if i understand correctly point of entry was recieved in a similar way. but i love point of entry, my point that i am rambling towards is that this band could crank out the same album every two years and quite a few of us would buy it and love it. but taking this easy route isn't what they do. i enjoy hearing them cover new ground and going down more creative roads. Nost. is not defenders or sin after sin, and thank god, rob, glenn and k.k. for that!
 
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