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Yep....and Rob Halfords vocals on Defenders destroy SFV. But don't get me wrong, I love SFV.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, August 06, 2010 11:07:06 PM)| |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I might be a victim of living in the Chicago area which, unbelieveabley does not have a Metal radio staion (a few have come and gone quickly over the years), but the only song I've ever heard on the radio here off the SFV album is YGOTC. Off DOTF, I've heard Freewheel Burning, Rock Hard Ride Free and Love Bites. Maybe SFV sounds more commercial to you, but with the exception of the above mentioned song DOTF has experienced much more radio play than SFV. I only have about 34 years of listening experience here, but it's a sad reality of no real Metal airplay in this area. Priest actually, even today, gets more airplay off the British Steel album than any other in this area. Green Manalishi is another staple on the LOOP (local rock sta.) more airplay than most.
Not one song off the first side of SFV gets airplay...period! Fever and Devil's Child would be the only other candidates and it just doesn't happen.
Defender's, IMO, is way more commercial. I really don't see where DOTF is a darker album. What songs are you referring to and please don't say The Sentinel, Eat Me Alive or Heavy Duty.
We all have our opinions, but using words like heavier and darker, I just don't see it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, August 06, 2010 11:07:06 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I agree, Defenders is a much darker and heavier album. SFV is a lot more commercial. Both albums are good though.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, August 06, 2010 8:23:10 PM)| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I'm not sure how you can consider DOTF the twin to SFV. I hear this a lot and disagree with it totally. Its like the standard opinion. No what I'm sayin? Defenders is total heavy metal while SFV has the pop sounding YGAC, Feaver, Take these chains, ect. Whatever. Don't get me wrong, I love SFV, just not as heavy as Defenders. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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THe Production on "Screaming " was mind blowing. The record was a fine representation of Heavy Guitar Music. Any music fan Loved the Guitar sounds of "screaming. DOTF let me down at first. I thought the guitar sound was not as good. To much Low end. IMO. It took i little time but i love the power of the songs. I thought the Riffage was progressively superior to "Screaming". I love th Lyrics of Defenders. Live Defenders songs are Unstoppable.
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| [Mr. Dave Genocide] Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:50:30 AM | |
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I've thought the same thing... Defenders flows with no hesitation and keeps chuggin' on heavier and heavier. Screaming started strong and ended strong, but the middle was kind of missing something, the something that Defenders kept and should have been bigger than Screaming.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Monday, July 26, 2010 9:18:27 AM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | | To me Defenders has always been better than Screaming, and also two different albums. The songs off of Defenders were much darker and heavier than what was on Screaming.Screaming to me had a lot of filler material, where every song on Defenders are kick ass. Both are excellent, but I prefer Defenders of the Faith. |
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| [Mr. Dave Genocide] Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:41:07 PM | |
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I agree. Turbo and Ram It Down were very disappointing, esp. Ram It Down. The one thing that sent it into a nosedive was the use of a drum machine. I've always wondered how it would've turned out with Scott Travis on drum duty! I'm sure everyone agree's that Painkiller sent them back on the right path.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:43:57 PM)| | | spapad wrote: | | I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
| | | ron h wrote: | | Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
| | | Budred wrote: | | Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
| | | ron h wrote: | | I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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I consider DOTF as the twin of Vengance, but not as good. It was good but not as good as Vengance. I also agree with you that until pankiller came out, they did nothting of note during that time. I like about 2 songs on turbo and about two on Ram it Dowm. Sorry, fans, just how I feel. I was truely dissoulitioned with Ram it Down. Hurt my Metal heart. It was OK, but not what I had come to expect.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:23:16 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
| | | Budred wrote: | | Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
| | | ron h wrote: | | I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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Budred, don't get me wrong by my expressed disappointment as I do consider DOTF to be a good release. The songs Rock Hard Ride Free, The Sentinel, Love Bites and Eat Me Alive are good songs that I really enjoy, it's the rest of them that leave me wanting. That, coupled with the album cover along with following such a great album in SFV, I expected something completely mind blowing. Unfortunately for me, just the opposite happend. Many of Priests' fans got hooked on them with the DOTF release, and I can certainly understand why. I had been a fan of theirs for a number of years by that time and just felt let down (a lot like I was with Point of Entry).
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:11:31 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
| | | ron h wrote: | | I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [Budred] Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:11:31 AM | |
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Interesting point, kind of thought provoking actually.
With an open mind I can see where you're coming from.
(I like Defender's...though)
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ron h from Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:36:51 AM)| | | ron h wrote: | | I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
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| [ron h] Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:36:51 AM | |
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I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but I was sort of disappointed with DOF. The cover looked like Lego's (so UNmetal) and the music didn't evolve to a higher level from SFV and the lyrics took a step back from my age group. It was at that point that I started to realize that the band wasn't going to mature with me (later verified by the Turbo release).
Not that I don't like DOF, but to me it was the first step towards a decline that they didn't really recover from until Painkiller.
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| [Mr. Dave Genocide] Friday, July 23, 2010 10:17:32 AM | |
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| 'Defenders' definitely get's overlooked, sadly. And I can't understand why! From the fast-paced Freewheel Burning all the way thru the anthem title-track, it's completely solid! If anything it's practically better than 'Screaming', and I know a lot of you out there agree. I completely adore this album, def. one of their Top albums ever. |
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| [guardian angel] Friday, July 23, 2010 9:54:40 AM | |
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My first and favorite Priest album. It's had the most plays of my whole collection by far! \m/ \m/  |
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| [metallo] Friday, July 23, 2010 6:08:15 AM | |
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| ONE OF THE BEST ALBUM OF EVER, AS FOR EVERY PRIEST'S ALBUM |
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| [Priest_Fan78] Friday, July 09, 2010 7:52:16 AM | |
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Rising from darkness where hell hath no mercy and the screams of vengeance echo on forever,
only those who keep the faith shall escape the wrath of the metallian... Defenders of the Faith.
Judas Priest is the best heavy metal band ever! I just love their music so much.
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| [Ruslan Silvermann] Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:18:59 PM | |
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With this video that I saw in 1985, I made myself a fan of Judas Priest forever.
Thanks, Life
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| [spapad] Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:16:01 PM | |
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Just wondering...................Dont you ever get tired to making new accounts? I could name them all. lol
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Melissa Kaileigh from Tuesday, June 29, 2010 5:28:54 AM)| | | Melissa Kaileigh wrote: | | I agree with you,an AWESOME album.
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| [Becks] Tuesday, June 29, 2010 4:06:34 PM | |
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Awesome! I love DOTF, it's an album that rarely leaves my car, I love blasting The Sentinel while I'm driving around LOL! Actually I love blasting the whole album
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| [Melissa Kaileigh] Tuesday, June 29, 2010 5:28:54 AM | |
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I agree with you,an AWESOME album.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Priest_Fan78 from Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:36:41 AM)| | | Priest_Fan78 wrote: | | | Well, I think all of Priest's albums are truly awesome. But Defenders of the Faith is the greatest. |
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| [hellrider 31038] Monday, June 28, 2010 4:32:21 PM | |
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YEAH DEFENDERS OF THE FAITH IS MY SECOND FAVORITE PRIEST ALBUM
you know what gets me is how back in the 80's when it was unleashed i heard critics called it SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE 2 wtf personaly i think DEFENDERS IS MUCH different and way better of an album
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| [Priestgirl_1] Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:23:50 AM | |
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Priest_Fan78 from Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:36:41 AM)| | | Priest_Fan78 wrote: | | | Well, I think all of Priest's albums are truly awesome. But Defenders of the Faith is the greatest. |
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| [Priest_Fan78] Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:36:41 AM | |
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| Well, I think all of Priest's albums are truly awesome. But Defenders of the Faith is the greatest. |
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| [metalmaz] Friday, June 25, 2010 3:27:03 PM | |
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| It gets overlooked.I love it. Priest's last really great album in my opinion. |
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| [Priest_Fan78] Friday, June 25, 2010 1:43:33 PM | |
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This album, 1984 Defenders of the Faith.. Is simply the greatest heavy metal album of all time! It's so powerful.
Freewheel Burning kicks some serious ass. Jawbreaker is a JAWBREAKER. Rock Hard Ride Free is mindblowing.
The Sentinel is a facemelter. Love Bites is love at first note. Eat Me Alive eats you alive. Some Heads Are Gonna Roll is truly AWESOME.
Night Comes Down is so beautiful. Heavy Duty/Defenders of the faith is heavier than heaviest.
I just had to write this. Judas Priest forever!
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