Yes bashing Tim does have something to do with Glenn and the rest of the band. Ripper was the vocalist of this band for many years. Recorded two studio cd's and two live cd's. He is a part of the history of this band and always will be. So if someone wants to bash Ripper for being the vocalist that replaced Halford (and by the way he did a killer job) they are also taking shots at the band. Now you can put that on the record too.

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		Young man, you seem to have an obsession with the linear composition of records. Not such a bad hobby, I suppose. As for decisions and criticism of them, I know I have made a few bad ones in my day. Not too sure what difference it makes if it was Glenn Tipton or whomever. He is not infallible simply by virtue of his inclusion in the Band, is he?  I think Dime is just stating, for the record, that he does not like Owens. Fair enough. I do not care for Usher, but I digress and that darn record is getting skewed again. Bashing Tim Owens has nothing to do with Glenn, KK, Rob or anyone else, with the possible exception of Owens' mother but that would require that we stray from that "straight" record again. Not going to do that. I think Owens is very talented. I think Jugulator was not a great album. Opinions are what they are and, as was so eloquently pointed out earlier, we all have them. You too, right? In fact, you appear to believe yours is all there should be...for the record.      Numero Uno wrote:    Lets get the record straight here, OK. Ripper was asked to join the band by Downing and Tiption. Its not like he was begging to try out for the vocal position, They saw how talented he was and invited him over for an audition. They were so impressed by his voice he was hired on the spot. Now if you want to bash Ripper you're also bashing the decisions of Tiptopn and Downing and the band in general.      Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote: Bah, shake your little finger all you want, I'm entitled to my opinion just like everyone else is on here. I don't care for Owens as a vocalist, i'll say he makes good use of what talent he has. For me everytime i hear him singing, in Beyond Fear, Priest or Iced Earth, he always sounds like the most  successful  rip off  of  Halford there ever was. So many bands in the 80's went for the Halford esq vocals that it was annoying. Rob is the only one (IN MY OPINION!......YES OPINION...YOU NO THAT LITTLE THING THAT EVERYONE HAS?) who can pull off the high octave voice. Everyone else just sounds to similar to me, thats the way my ears take it. Like it or continue to shake your little finger at those who share their honest opinion.    (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:50:39 PM)   Numero Uno wrote:        Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote:   What i find messed up is this guy living in the shoes of Rob Halford, trying to be the guy. How the hell could you have the nerve to say " oh ya i could front Judas Priest and replace THE METAL GOD." Its blashpheous. I really don't think Halford holds him highly either. He always refers to him as Mr. Owens. Edited at: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:29:17 PM

Young man, you seem to have an obsession with the linear composition of records. Not such a bad hobby, I suppose. As for decisions and criticism of them, I know I have made a few bad ones in my day. Not too sure what difference it makes if it was Glenn Tipton or whomever. He is not infallible simply by virtue of his inclusion in the Band, is he?  I think Dime is just stating, for the record, that he does not like Owens. Fair enough. I do not care for Usher, but I digress and that darn record is getting skewed again.

Bashing Tim Owens has nothing to do with Glenn, KK, Rob or anyone else, with the possible exception of Owens' mother but that would require that we stray from that "straight" record again. Not going to do that. I think Owens is very talented. I think Jugulator was not a great album. Opinions are what they are and, as was so eloquently pointed out earlier, we all have them. You too, right? In fact, you appear to believe yours is all there should be...for the record.

		Numero Uno wrote:
		Lets get the record straight here, OK. Ripper was asked to join the band by Downing and Tiption. Its not like he was begging to try out for the vocal position, They saw how talented he was and invited him over for an audition. They were so impressed by his voice he was hired on the spot. Now if you want to bash Ripper you're also bashing the decisions of Tiptopn and Downing and the band in general.      Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote: Bah, shake your little finger all you want, I'm entitled to my opinion just like everyone else is on here. I don't care for Owens as a vocalist, i'll say he makes good use of what talent he has. For me everytime i hear him singing, in Beyond Fear, Priest or Iced Earth, he always sounds like the most  successful  rip off  of  Halford there ever was. So many bands in the 80's went for the Halford esq vocals that it was annoying. Rob is the only one (IN MY OPINION!......YES OPINION...YOU NO THAT LITTLE THING THAT EVERYONE HAS?) who can pull off the high octave voice. Everyone else just sounds to similar to me, thats the way my ears take it. Like it or continue to shake your little finger at those who share their honest opinion.    (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:50:39 PM)   Numero Uno wrote:        Dime/UNDER BLOOD RED SKIES!!!! wrote:   What i find messed up is this guy living in the shoes of Rob Halford, trying to be the guy. How the hell could you have the nerve to say " oh ya i could front Judas Priest and replace THE METAL GOD." Its blashpheous. I really don't think Halford holds him highly either. He always refers to him as Mr. Owens. Edited at: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:29:17 PM