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[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:57:38 AM 
Good points of view, one and all. I think Bud is just a tiny bit gun-shy given his difficulties at first. All completely understandable. All of this conversation leads me to a rather direct point;

I do not use grammar, structure and whatnot simply to "show I am smarter than so and so". I am sure it may seem that way to some but I honestly try to be as eloquent as I possibly can be because this IS the interenet and, as HB pointed out,  it is very difficult to detect "tone" in one's posts. Some are clearly more blatant than others but it has been my experience that the more clearly you speak (write) and the words that you use make a tremendous difference in the way people perceive your comments.

It may occasionally come off as somewhat pompous but in all reality, there are very few times when I am misunderstood, even by the more cretinous element amongst us. I am always more than willing to clarify if someone asks but I am fairly certain my point is made the first time through. This is all the more reason for us all to take the time to be more cognizant of what we say and HOW we say it.
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:20:50 AM 
Quite the valid point but with time you do get better at it. Some who post obscene messages are easy to dismiss as it is "just their way." Others, were they to do the same, really throw up red flags as it is so out out of character.

Hey, makes it easy to tell the real fans from the shitdisturbers I say.

Bud, I also loved your photos as I stated before. Be you, as others have advised.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:15:18 AM)
[Head banger] Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:15:18 AM 
in text its realy hard to read someones tone, then you add in the different ways of speaking around the world... its hard.  people will never all agree. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:10:03 AM)
[Budred] Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:10:03 AM 
To your last sentence I think you are dead on. I definitely need to work on that.
When someone writes something(myself included), it may not have the tone you intended.
I'm new to this. I'm starting to understand. I just want to be myself and stop worrying about 
how people take me. Most will probably accept me. Some won't. Peace!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:27:44 AM)
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:27:44 AM 
I understood you perfectly Bud. I was simply trying to make a point to you that what you consider arguing at times is actually members of this board defending their home from attacks by people who are NOT who you believe them to be. Be careful what side you choose to take. Some of these "new" people are not new at all.

I've been telling you all along to stop worrying about your posts and to start talking to people. We like you and welcome your opinions, so speak your mind. But try not to read too much into what people are saying back to you. I think you get offended sometimes when people didn't mean anything by it.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:55:18 PM)
[joedraper] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:53:07 PM 
Bud, you don't need to cower or apologize for anything. I (and I'm sure many others) enjoy your post and are grateful to you for sharing your pics. I didn't think Ripper was bad at all, his only fault was that he was not Rob and er.. that's not exactly his fault is it? lol

Anyways. You don't need to pussyfoot around here. People like you and enjoy having you here. Some will argue, state their case and some a little more eloquently than others but that's just how it goes. 
Never compromise who you are for the sake of others 

xx

And please, put your pics back up they were super rad!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:55:18 PM)
[Budred] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:55:18 PM 
You don't understand. I wasn't trying to get anyone to agree to anything. I let people make
up their own minds, just like I do mine. My rant is because of me not allowing myself to be me.
I came here with a less than stellar initial appearance. So I had to back off and be apologetic.(deserving).
Since then I have been so concerned with not offending or pissing anyone off that I started cowering at a
moments notice. Everytime I post something, if someone doesn't like it or it caused arguments among others,
I start backtracking or apologizing. The last thing was pictures that I posted. It caused others to argue and that is 
so not what I wanted. So what do I do? I delete the pictures. After I thought about it I realized that that was me 
cowering again. This is all because of my intro here. Well that's behind me. I will not make antagonizing posts.
I will not purposely offend people but I'm not backing down anymore either. An off the back on to the feet sort of thing.
I'll post pictures of Priest. I'll talk about Ripper. I'll say what I want relative to Priest. If people don't agree so be it.
I basically just want to get out from under this I'm so nice thing and be myself. Who knows, you may like the
real me better. Peace!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:02:38 PM)
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:02:38 PM 
Bud, you most definitely should speak your mind (being respectful to others of course) but do not expect everyone to agree with you. The world doesn't work that way. I am very grateful to Ripper for stepping up and trying to fill Rob's incredible shoes. Without him, I believe that Priest would not be here today. He kept the band going during the dark years when everyone believed that Rob would never be back. I am not a fan of the Ripper era songs however. Ripper did not have a way with melody that Rob has. Also, the lyrics were seriously lacking on both albums. I think Cathedral Spires is the best song, but even that song is kind of weird for me - it changes gears abruptly and I just think they could have done it better. Without Rob's influence and writing it just wasn't Priest for me. But I am extremely grateful to Ripper and I went to the Jugulator show to support them.

As for some of the things going on with the Board, you have to realize that not everyone is here for the same reasons that you are. There are some people that have created accounts and acted like they were new when in fact they were members before and made enemies. They create these accounts and their only intention is to piss people off with what they post. If you watch these people, they always attack certain people and leave everyone else alone. Hmmmmm. They prey on the new people who have no idea that this kind of crap goes on and try to make friends with them and get them on their side. I've watched it happen over and over again and I've only been here a 10 months! Not everyone is who they pretend to be. I've been fortunate enough to meet 2 of the members of this board and they are indeed everything they present themselves to be and so much more! That is why I am here - to talk to TRUE Priest fans and hopefully meet in the future as we bang our heads and scream our bloody heads off singing along to THE BEST METAL BAND IN THE WORLD!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:09:16 PM)
[spapad] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:22:16 PM 
What??
[Budred] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:09:16 PM 
You know what. F*ck this, I'm being a p*ssy. I speak my mind in the real world, I may as well do it here.
For over a month because of my initial post(and the turmoil it caused) all I have been doing is trying to keep 
everything peaceful and try not to piss anyone off. I analyze everything I post trying not to cause conflict.
When it does then I start apologizing and backtracking, and in Brian Evans case backstabbing. No more!
F*ck it, and, anyone who doesn't like me. I love Ripper. I think he is an incredible vocalist. I'm glad Priest got
 him because he gave them new life. I love heavy metal and the fact that they were heavier with him was a 
good thing to me. Also there are things that he can do vocally that Rob can't anymore. Listen to Diamonds 
and Rust on Live in London and then listen to Rob's last version of it. Ripper does a much better job. I'm here 
because I love Judas Priest, I'm not here because I want people to love me. I only have two true regrets since 
coming here. I wish I wouldn't have left the F/god post in the Priest cafe and I wish I wouldn't  have stabbed 
Brian in the back. That's so not me. I would rather punch someone in the face than to stab them in the back.
You guys really should lighten up on him. Sometimes when you're attacked from all angles you have no choice 
but to come out swinging. I won't purposely antagonize here but I'm not going to be a p*ssy either. F*ck it.
 Long live Judas Priest and their fans.

Edited at: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:10:15 PM
[Cooper Ryback] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 7:35:20 PM 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:20:33 PM)
[Budred] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:56:00 PM 
Quite better with differences. It's equally as good to just get along.
I don't seem to be able to do that. This site has me self analyzing myself so much
it's becoming a source of depression. I'm starting to think I should just give this site(and myself) a break
and stay away for awhile. Clear my head and start again.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:40:12 PM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:55:22 PM 
Exactly.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:51:13 PM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:51:13 PM 
people argue.  if you dont want conflict, not only dont post on this site, dont access the internet. it is the tool for fighting.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:40:12 PM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:40:12 PM 
Look. Arguments are gonna happen. This is a Judas Priest site. Not everyone is going to like every single aspect of the band's history, music, members, etc. You happen to like the Ripper era. Guido and a few others don't. You know what they say about being different. Without any differences, the world would be boring, right?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:32:44 PM)
[Budred] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:32:44 PM 

It just seems as though most of my posts just don't go over here. I took the pictures down because
they had people arguing. That wasn't the intent.


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:11:34 PM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:11:34 PM 
Oh, come on man. Why go through all that trouble? Your pics are great!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:08:47 PM)
[Budred] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:08:47 PM 

All pics are gone.


Edited at: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:27:37 PM
[Budred] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:41:11 PM 
I've removed all my pictures from Photobucket except for the cards I left for Freeze.
I was hoping people would find them interesting. Instead they just cause grief. I mistakenly
quoted Guido, this message is for all. Peace!  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:15:10 PM) Edited at: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:53:43 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:55:38 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:15:10 PM 
I really don't think that anyone has a problem with you, Bud. Like you, we just express our opinions as do most "normal" folks around here. If you like Ripper-era, are a vegan or worship a rock in your backyard, good. State what you will. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you.

You have been respectful here and I think we all appreciate it. It is certainly more than we can say about certain ... ahem ... "members".

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:13:59 PM)
[Budred] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:13:59 PM 
All is well in the land of Priest. Just like in real life Ripper has been removed.
I deleted his pics from photobucket so they should disappear. I'm starting to think this site is not for me.
I only seem to cause conflict. Occasionally purposeful, usually not. Take care, Peace!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:57:58 AM) Edited at: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:38:47 PM
Edited at: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:46:52 PM
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:20:33 PM 
Actually that was awesome, cool song.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Cooper Ryback from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:51:09 AM)
[Head banger] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:16:53 PM 
while thats nice and all, and he is a good singer, finding coments posted on youtube wont help you buy a cup of coffee, let alone become a great singer.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Cooper Ryback from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:13:13 PM)
[Cooper Ryback] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:13:13 PM 
A few comments from youtube about Scream Machine.....

"the new millenium Painkiller:)
Tim is a beast!!!"

"Rip your heart out!!!!!! Brilliant, love the guitar too."

"he is a real scream machine
"

"Man Owens Is Awesome He Has Great Vocals. I Liked This song "






  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Cooper Ryback from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:51:09 AM)
[Cooper Ryback] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:12:18 AM 
Nice!  Glad to see some support for Ripper around here.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, March 08, 2010 6:21:29 PM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:55:16 AM 
Oh Lord, I was wondering how long it would take you to DRONE in on this topic. <==keyword highlighted.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Cooper Ryback from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:51:09 AM)
[Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:53:25 AM 
Hey, fake Brian Evans!! How are ya?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Cooper Ryback from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:51:09 AM)
[Cooper Ryback] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:51:09 AM 
In your face dude!!  Going to Rip your heart out!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, March 08, 2010 9:50:55 PM)
Edited at: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:52:55 AM
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:41:53 AM 

Well said, guido! I am in your camp on this one and not because of Ripper, personally. I have always maintained that Tim Owens is a great vocalist. One of many that I favor, however, he is not Rob. All of that said, he did a wonderful job of "filling in" and all that so I would not begrudge the man his fame but I did not care for the music Priest produced during that time period. It would not have mattered if Dio or Dickenson or any other great vocalist were there at that time.

I do not understand why so many people feel that it is some kind of slight against Ripper to say that they do not like the Priest years of that era. Like guido, I do not care for the Van "Hagar" years, either. Still like Sammy. Great musician. I just did not care for him with Van Halen.  At least the music, for the most part, remained the same with him in the band. Priest seemed to have went in a different direction with Owens. At least that is how MY ears hear it.

[guidogodoy] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:57:58 AM 
Not to be aggressive but did you like the Van Halen / Sammy years?

It is well-known that I liked them individually but not together save for "Get Up." Twas hard for me to boycott Priest without Halford but I just couldn't stand it. Not to badmouth Ripper nor you. Like you said, some simply liked it, some didn't. I am most certainly in the "didn't" camp. Tough as everyone knows that I think they are the greatest band to have walked the planet!

Kewl tix, BTW. Thanks for showing them off (even if you didn't come and say "hello" at PINE KNOB, MI. LOL!). I got a real kick out of seeing how your seats changed over the years and venues. The changes over the years. Were I to post all mine, you'd see a funny progression: lawn, closer, closer, first row! That is a sign of age, I suppose, for good or bad. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:49:13 AM)
Edited at: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:02:04 AM
[Budred] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:49:13 AM 
Some like Ripper, some don't. 
Considering Rob bailed on them and there was no Priest,
I'm glad they were able to find him.
As a replacemant I think he did just fine.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, March 08, 2010 9:50:55 PM)
[hellrider 31038] Monday, March 08, 2010 9:50:55 PM 
hey man thats not PRIEST
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, March 08, 2010 6:21:29 PM)
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 6:42:15 PM 
Yes, with Krokus opening up. (Pittsburgh Civic Arena) 
The only tour since Point of Entry that I missed was Ram it Down.  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Dale T. from Monday, March 08, 2010 6:36:50 PM)
Edited at: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:47:02 PM
[Dale T.] Monday, March 08, 2010 6:36:50 PM 
Cool pictures!! Looks like you have been to a few shows. Did you see them on the Fuel For Life tour?
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 6:31:11 PM 
Hellrider, The quality isn't the greatest but here's a couple from...
     ~~The Painkiller Tour 1991~~
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 6:25:19 PM 
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 6:21:29 PM 

Judas Priest

[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 6:10:15 PM 

Judas Priest

[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 5:54:22 PM 
Glenn and K.K.
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 5:43:06 PM 
Glenn Tipton

Edited at: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:43:35 PM
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 5:29:50 PM 
Fight 94'
[spapad] Monday, March 08, 2010 3:26:32 PM 
Yep! That's exactly what I saw while laying my head on the desk! LOL Nice!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, March 08, 2010 8:22:53 AM)
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 8:22:53 AM 
(re)post...Spapad it's right side up this time(LOL).

           Fight 94'
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 8:10:32 AM 
I have to post some pics again. I didn't know that deleting them from photobucket
deleted them here also. Always learning(LOL).

My Judas Priest concert stubs!
[Budred] Monday, March 08, 2010 8:06:21 AM 
My Judas Priest concert stubs.
[Budred] Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:06:52 PM 
I started it out of sarcasm, me being an ass. Now it's just random, anything you want to post.
Right now I was asking for pics or stories relating to Priest. I have a few pictures that I want to
post. I'm just doing it slowly so as not to overwhelm. It's basically just a thread for me to be able
to communicate with anyone that wants to. Take care, Peace!

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Dale T. from Sunday, March 07, 2010 2:59:41 PM)
[Dale T.] Sunday, March 07, 2010 2:59:41 PM 
Whats this thread about? Nice picks!
[Budred] Sunday, March 07, 2010 5:53:08 AM 
Open post to all Priest fans.
              Feel free to post pics.
   Post anything but I prefer a Priest theme. Do you have concert shots.
     You with the band. You getting arrested at one of their shows(LOL). Anything.

  ...Also share any experiences (good or bad)(Priest related). 
   ...Someone has to have a good story...(C'Mon)
[Budred] Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:43:13 PM 
That's cool, but it is hard to look at. Peace!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:29:50 PM)
[Budred] Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:41:43 PM 
 It may be hard to recognize who some of the picks are from on the photo below.
    row 1.  CxT(Crazytown)
            3. orange Small deadly...(Fight)  black Priest...(Glenn Tipton)  black on end of row...(Tracy G.(Dio))
            4. 2nd black Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
            5. white middle...(Dimebag(Pantera))
            6. Rachel Bolan(Skid Row)
              ...bottom black GHS Strings (Trouble)...small red (Dangerous Toys)
 

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