Lol... Yup, tourists are a pain in the ass... I hate to see them around here. Then again, I love going somewhere as a tourist, so I guess it equals out.

Greece... I would LOVE to go there once. Nice mediteranean land, with so many sights... Where in Greece were you? Athens? Did you see the Acropolis?

		spapad wrote:
		LOL, I did once in Greece use my flash on my camera, I was standing on the benches in the gallery to get a better shot and started flashing, the gard was saying in about 5 language to me to quit, I just acted like I didn't understand her. LOL Bad tourist! BAD!!! LOL      _strat_ wrote: Yeah, thats true. Mind you, I did smuggle a camera inside, but I didnt dare to use it. There were just too many guides in there. Pity. The Cathedral in Florence was a wonderfull sight.      spapad wrote: You cant take pictures of ancient art work because the preservationists feel it will speed the fading of the pigments in the paint. I can see their point, but it doesn't help when your standing there looking at something so beautiful and not allowed to take home your own memory in a snapshot. Thank god, camera's have come a long way and can take decent low light pictures.      _strat_ wrote: They let you take pictures in a church?!?! Damit... The fascist in Italy wouldnt even let me take a camera into the Florence cathedral. But, I see that there is the ever-so typical rope barrier in front of the altar... Kinda like in front of nightclubs, eh? "Youre not cool enough to party with Jesus!"      Deep Freeze wrote: Here is a pic I took inside the basilica at the Mision de Asis. Rather dark but it was a cool place. Just happened to be Good Friday as well! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol... Yup, tourists are a pain in the ass... I hate to see them around here. Then again, I love going somewhere as a tourist, so I guess it equals out.

Greece... I would LOVE to go there once. Nice mediteranean land, with so many sights... Where in Greece were you? Athens? Did you see the Acropolis?

		spapad wrote:
		LOL, I did once in Greece use my flash on my camera, I was standing on the benches in the gallery to get a better shot and started flashing, the gard was saying in about 5 language to me to quit, I just acted like I didn't understand her. LOL Bad tourist! BAD!!! LOL      _strat_ wrote: Yeah, thats true. Mind you, I did smuggle a camera inside, but I didnt dare to use it. There were just too many guides in there. Pity. The Cathedral in Florence was a wonderfull sight.      spapad wrote: You cant take pictures of ancient art work because the preservationists feel it will speed the fading of the pigments in the paint. I can see their point, but it doesn't help when your standing there looking at something so beautiful and not allowed to take home your own memory in a snapshot. Thank god, camera's have come a long way and can take decent low light pictures.      _strat_ wrote: They let you take pictures in a church?!?! Damit... The fascist in Italy wouldnt even let me take a camera into the Florence cathedral. But, I see that there is the ever-so typical rope barrier in front of the altar... Kinda like in front of nightclubs, eh? "Youre not cool enough to party with Jesus!"      Deep Freeze wrote: Here is a pic I took inside the basilica at the Mision de Asis. Rather dark but it was a cool place. Just happened to be Good Friday as well! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably are... Pyramids are thousands of years old. Very impressive too, although Ive only seen them on pictures... Egyptians really had an obsession with death. I bet George Carlin would have a LOT to say about that...

As for the solitary confinment that you were in... That is a shame on the American judicial system.

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		GREAT pics, Ellie!! Strat, you're right. I am NO big believer in "orbs" as anything more than just energy. I do not buy into the "ghost" thing with orbs. As for the graves, I just thought the setting was cool. It had a strange feel to it. I should think , somewhere on earth, there are graves that are thousands of years old (possibly tens of thousands?), if one knows where to look. It was a creepy place, so I took the shot. I have been inside the prison. It is a VERY creepy place. I even sat in a 'solitary' cell. The Princess would not go in!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!  She said it was "too scary". I plan to return and take the night tour . THAT would be awesome but it is so popular that you need to reserve weeks in advance and I did not know that at the time.      _strat_ wrote: Well, first of all, and I think Freeze will agree on this, orbs are probably not lost souls. Second of all... LOL... 200 years? The oldest structure Ive been into is 2000 years old.      spapad wrote: Ya know if that picture were bigger I might be able to see if there are any "Orbs" there! We have a cemetary in this area that has gravestones that old, but for California, I imagine 1800's would be about as far back as they go, and of course you know most everyone in europe is laughing at this post! We think when something is 200 years old, well shit that's old, but my X-husband grew up in a house that was built on top of a 400 year old already existing house belonging to his grandmother and grandfather. LOL      Deep Freeze wrote: With pleasure, my dear!! Here is a picture of the old graveyard that we saw when we took the city tour. All the graves were dated in the mid-1800's! It was creepy but VERY cool!!!!

Probably are... Pyramids are thousands of years old. Very impressive too, although Ive only seen them on pictures... Egyptians really had an obsession with death. I bet George Carlin would have a LOT to say about that...

As for the solitary confinment that you were in... That is a shame on the American judicial system.

		Deep Freeze wrote:
		GREAT pics, Ellie!! Strat, you're right. I am NO big believer in "orbs" as anything more than just energy. I do not buy into the "ghost" thing with orbs. As for the graves, I just thought the setting was cool. It had a strange feel to it. I should think , somewhere on earth, there are graves that are thousands of years old (possibly tens of thousands?), if one knows where to look. It was a creepy place, so I took the shot. I have been inside the prison. It is a VERY creepy place. I even sat in a 'solitary' cell. The Princess would not go in!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!  She said it was "too scary". I plan to return and take the night tour . THAT would be awesome but it is so popular that you need to reserve weeks in advance and I did not know that at the time.      _strat_ wrote: Well, first of all, and I think Freeze will agree on this, orbs are probably not lost souls. Second of all... LOL... 200 years? The oldest structure Ive been into is 2000 years old.      spapad wrote: Ya know if that picture were bigger I might be able to see if there are any "Orbs" there! We have a cemetary in this area that has gravestones that old, but for California, I imagine 1800's would be about as far back as they go, and of course you know most everyone in europe is laughing at this post! We think when something is 200 years old, well shit that's old, but my X-husband grew up in a house that was built on top of a 400 year old already existing house belonging to his grandmother and grandfather. LOL      Deep Freeze wrote: With pleasure, my dear!! Here is a picture of the old graveyard that we saw when we took the city tour. All the graves were dated in the mid-1800's! It was creepy but VERY cool!!!!

GREAT pics, Ellie!!

Strat, you're right. I am NO big believer in "orbs" as anything more than just energy. I do not buy into the "ghost" thing with orbs. As for the graves, I just thought the setting was cool. It had a strange feel to it. I should think , somewhere on earth, there are graves that are thousands of years old (possibly tens of thousands?), if one knows where to look. It was a creepy place, so I took the shot.

I have been inside the prison. It is a VERY creepy place. I even sat in a 'solitary' cell. The Princess would not go in!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!  She said it was "too scary". I plan to return and take the night tour . THAT would be awesome but it is so popular that you need to reserve weeks in advance and I did not know that at the time.

		_strat_ wrote:
		Well, first of all, and I think Freeze will agree on this, orbs are probably not lost souls. Second of all... LOL... 200 years? The oldest structure Ive been into is 2000 years old.      spapad wrote: Ya know if that picture were bigger I might be able to see if there are any "Orbs" there! We have a cemetary in this area that has gravestones that old, but for California, I imagine 1800's would be about as far back as they go, and of course you know most everyone in europe is laughing at this post! We think when something is 200 years old, well shit that's old, but my X-husband grew up in a house that was built on top of a 400 year old already existing house belonging to his grandmother and grandfather. LOL      Deep Freeze wrote: With pleasure, my dear!! Here is a picture of the old graveyard that we saw when we took the city tour. All the graves were dated in the mid-1800's! It was creepy but VERY cool!!!!

GREAT pics, Ellie!!

Strat, you're right. I am NO big believer in "orbs" as anything more than just energy. I do not buy into the "ghost" thing with orbs. As for the graves, I just thought the setting was cool. It had a strange feel to it. I should think , somewhere on earth, there are graves that are thousands of years old (possibly tens of thousands?), if one knows where to look. It was a creepy place, so I took the shot.

I have been inside the prison. It is a VERY creepy place. I even sat in a 'solitary' cell. The Princess would not go in!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!  She said it was "too scary". I plan to return and take the night tour . THAT would be awesome but it is so popular that you need to reserve weeks in advance and I did not know that at the time.

		_strat_ wrote:
		Well, first of all, and I think Freeze will agree on this, orbs are probably not lost souls. Second of all... LOL... 200 years? The oldest structure Ive been into is 2000 years old.      spapad wrote: Ya know if that picture were bigger I might be able to see if there are any "Orbs" there! We have a cemetary in this area that has gravestones that old, but for California, I imagine 1800's would be about as far back as they go, and of course you know most everyone in europe is laughing at this post! We think when something is 200 years old, well shit that's old, but my X-husband grew up in a house that was built on top of a 400 year old already existing house belonging to his grandmother and grandfather. LOL      Deep Freeze wrote: With pleasure, my dear!! Here is a picture of the old graveyard that we saw when we took the city tour. All the graves were dated in the mid-1800's! It was creepy but VERY cool!!!!

GREAT pics, Ellie!!

Strat, you're right. I am NO big believer in "orbs" as anything more than just energy. I do not buy into the "ghost" thing with orbs. As for the graves, I just thought the setting was cool. It had a strange feel to it. I should think , somewhere on earth, there are graves that are thousands of years old (possibly tens of thousands?), if one knows where to look. It was a creepy place, so I took the shot.

I have been inside the prison. It is a VERY creepy place. I even sat in a 'solitary' cell. The Princess would not go in!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!  She said it was "too scary". I plan to return and take the night tour . THAT would be awesome but it is so popular that you need to reserve weeks in advance and I did not know that at the time.

		_strat_ wrote:
		Well, first of all, and I think Freeze will agree on this, orbs are probably not lost souls. Second of all... LOL... 200 years? The oldest structure Ive been into is 2000 years old.      spapad wrote: Ya know if that picture were bigger I might be able to see if there are any "Orbs" there! We have a cemetary in this area that has gravestones that old, but for California, I imagine 1800's would be about as far back as they go, and of course you know most everyone in europe is laughing at this post! We think when something is 200 years old, well shit that's old, but my X-husband grew up in a house that was built on top of a 400 year old already existing house belonging to his grandmother and grandfather. LOL      Deep Freeze wrote: With pleasure, my dear!! Here is a picture of the old graveyard that we saw when we took the city tour. All the graves were dated in the mid-1800's! It was creepy but VERY cool!!!!

GREAT pics, Ellie!!

Strat, you're right. I am NO big believer in "orbs" as anything more than just energy. I do not buy into the "ghost" thing with orbs. As for the graves, I just thought the setting was cool. It had a strange feel to it. I should think , somewhere on earth, there are graves that are thousands of years old (possibly tens of thousands?), if one knows where to look. It was a creepy place, so I took the shot.

I have been inside the prison. It is a VERY creepy place. I even sat in a 'solitary' cell. The Princess would not go in!! HA!!!!!!!!!!!!  She said it was "too scary". I plan to return and take the night tour . THAT would be awesome but it is so popular that you need to reserve weeks in advance and I did not know that at the time.

		_strat_ wrote:
		Well, first of all, and I think Freeze will agree on this, orbs are probably not lost souls. Second of all... LOL... 200 years? The oldest structure Ive been into is 2000 years old.      spapad wrote: Ya know if that picture were bigger I might be able to see if there are any "Orbs" there! We have a cemetary in this area that has gravestones that old, but for California, I imagine 1800's would be about as far back as they go, and of course you know most everyone in europe is laughing at this post! We think when something is 200 years old, well shit that's old, but my X-husband grew up in a house that was built on top of a 400 year old already existing house belonging to his grandmother and grandfather. LOL      Deep Freeze wrote: With pleasure, my dear!! Here is a picture of the old graveyard that we saw when we took the city tour. All the graves were dated in the mid-1800's! It was creepy but VERY cool!!!!

Well, first of all, and I think Freeze will agree on this, orbs are probably not lost souls.

Second of all... LOL... 200 years? The oldest structure Ive been into is 2000 years old.

		spapad wrote:
		Ya know if that picture were bigger I might be able to see if there are any "Orbs" there! We have a cemetary in this area that has gravestones that old, but for California, I imagine 1800's would be about as far back as they go, and of course you know most everyone in europe is laughing at this post! We think when something is 200 years old, well shit that's old, but my X-husband grew up in a house that was built on top of a 400 year old already existing house belonging to his grandmother and grandfather. LOL      Deep Freeze wrote: With pleasure, my dear!! Here is a picture of the old graveyard that we saw when we took the city tour. All the graves were dated in the mid-1800's! It was creepy but VERY cool!!!!