Another studio album like AOR would be brilliant. And it would have 2 start with a blistering scream from Rob after a slow build up from KK and Glenn, which then launches into their classic metal sound. I hope they start work on it soon

Yeah I know,I read that a while back.....I'm not saying that Halford could'nt pull it off....I'm just saying that it would'nt be right for the name "Judas Priest" to play "black metal" at all...

But as a whole......I think that it would be awsome if Judas Priest created an album that reeked and polished "The Best Judas Priest ever recorded".

An album that could easily match greatness of Sad Wings Of Destiny,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Painkiller...........................................

.....with songs on it that could easily match tracks like "Victim Of Changes",Genocide,Sinner,Steeler,Painkiller,Judas Rising,Demonizer,Hellrider..ect....

		JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
		Halford alwas wanted to do some black metal it was in an interview somewhere. I think he ws going to work with a couple of musicians from Emporer. But yeah i agree for with you!      J.D. DIAMOND wrote: LOL! Well,I think Priest should stay away from "black metal"......me being a black metal fan since 1983.......that would be a recipe for disaster!! LOL! They should stick to doing what they do best....and thats traditional british screaming heavy metal!!!      JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote: Hmm i would definately disagree with you there. Those 3 you mentioned are great but there are others. 'Feed on Me', 'Cyberface', 'Metal Messiah' (possibly the heaviest riff they've ever done) 'Inbetween' (majorly underrated track) and of course the fantastically catchy but overlooked 'Subterfuge'. Those are great songs, the others i kind of overlook but i love Demolition as a whole it was breaking new ground. If some other band had released it everyone probably would have liked it, i did anyway. I like it when they are diverse, hell if Priest came up with a death/blackesque metal album next i think it would be awesome, Halford has the grunt for it. However I think you're right J.D, i would like to hear some more classic heavy metal again from the boys, the sound that they suit the most for me was with Angel of Retribution, i have been listening to that album religiously for the past week (as i do with all of their albums) and i honestly think they should do something like that again, the production was fantastic and the music was even better, even Lochness has its moments. So yeah go on Priest make us some good old school heavy metal.      J.D. DIAMOND wrote: Demolition? YUK!   And tune thier guitars back down? YUK!   LOL! I'll have to agree to disagree with you here. I hate Demolition with a passion!!!   That album sucks big time!  The only 3 worthy songs on it are the first 3 "Machine Man,One On One and Hell Is Home". The next 10 tracks in a row are terrible.      Starbreaker287 wrote: I'd like to see the next album be more cutting edge, more raw, more in the vein of  Demolition.  They were breaking new ground on Machine Man etc....  They should tune their guitars back down, break the mold.  I'd like to hear Scott try more beats, they are all so straight ahead or double bass.

Yes, maybe. If next album is along the lines of Angel of Retribution that`s alright. That`s a great album. If it`s in the vein of Nostradamus, that`s alright too. The album is slower but more refined. If it`s a mixture of previous albums plus something else, that`s OK too. They have the freedom to do whatever they like and feel. They are sensational musicians. I have faith in Priest!

		Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
		WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT...I'M EXPECTING SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF A.O.R.,AFTER ALL ROB HAD STATED THAT WHEN THE WRITING SESSIONS WERE COMPLETED FOR A.O.R.,THEY HAD ENOUGH MATERIAL FOR TWO ALBUMS,SO I'M FIGURING PERHAPS THIS IS WHAT WE'LL SEE....      chileansteel wrote: I disagree with you. You cannot say "the band are finished". They`re not out at all!!!. All the evolution they`ve had throughout their career, including Nostradamus, shows no sign of slowing down. On the contrary, in ability, ideas, performance, Priest still knows how to play Metal.  Quit after Angel of Retribution!!! No!!!!!. It seems that you haven`t attended the shows of their 2008 - 2009 tours. They`re playing awesome live!. I saw them last year and they blew my mind away and the Nostradamus tracks sounded so powerful. I say they are far from retirement. I wouldn`t have liked losing this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVBh7haJMRg     (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:06:15 PM)   J.D. DIAMOND wrote:   I do not think that there IS going to be a "next studio album" at all,thats why I am venting my frustrations in disappointment over Nostradamus. I think that the band are "finished" after this British Steel tour they are doing now.  What a sad way to go out.They should of quit after the tour of Angel Of Retribution. Edited at: Saturday, May 23, 2009 8:47:41 PM

LOL!  Upset? (lol!) Nah man,I'm not "upset" at all...I just LOVE to argue!!! LOL!  And why would I not like an album because people like it?  That makes no sense to me.

I don't like it because  "I don't like it"  simple as that man. I do like to argue and debate things,thats all. I'm no where near "upset".  LOL!

This reminds me of 1986 and the Turbo album all over again with the fan base split down the middle on thier opinions about the album.

No worries,I just don't "get" Nostradamus at all,I'm glad all of you like it and are enjoying it though. I'm the odd ball out and I'm fine with that! LOL!


Upset? LOL!!!!  

		ronhartsell wrote:
		Hey there J.D., been awhile since we chatted, eh??  I'm not sure if you don't like Nos because you don't like the music or because some ppl like it, but I know you get more upset the more you talk bout it...lol It's cool to not like it, I don't care for Turbo myself, though there's a couple songs on it that are alright... I like Nos, but I like it for what it is and it's definately not typical Priest, but in this case I don't think it's a bad thing...the band did tell us it was gonna be different from anything else...I do find it hard to believe that you don't like any of it as there are moments through out it that are heavily influenced by the 70's sound and the classic style...but hey, we all have our own tastes...I don't think it was a step backwards as much as a lateral move into a different style...I must admit that the more I listened to it the better it got...I can't remember the song (maybe the title track??) that the riff sounds like the riff on Nailed To The Gun, off the first Fight release...I think if you look hard enough, there's a little gem in there for everyone...just my opinion...take it easy man!!!      J.D. DIAMOND wrote: One thing I can't understand is that many of you are saying in one way or another.."Priest shouldn't keep to the same formula"..... Why the %&*# not?    Everybody jumps for JOY when we talk about "PAINKILLER"..."SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE"......."BRITISH STEEL".... But when it comes to a new album.....you all want "something off the wall different"....??? WTF? LOL! Maybe some of you don't really like those classic albums as much as you say you do. To me,Nostradamus is "TERRIBLE" and "BORING".  It stinks of boring song writting and to me reflects nothing to the 70's style Priest at all....maybe a small riff here or there but never in the vien of 70's Priest. The use of these keyboards is nothing new.....the song structures in tracks like "Awakening/Revelations" sounds like German progressive power metal band "Blind Guardian" whom I do not like.... .....but its Blind Guardian's style at least.    To me,Judas Priest took a "step backwards" with Nostradamus...its already been done with other bands,they did not come up with this sound on thier own...they sound like they copied it from progressive bands such as Blind Guardian. I'm not trying to change anybody's mind here,.....if some like Nostradamus so be it,I never will and I've listened to it about 20 times all the way through just to make sure I've heard all aspects of the album,and each time I've listened to it,it gets worse. After about 19 or 20 times throughout a spand of a year...I'm done with it,and probably will never listen to it again. I am not a "fan boy" and will not accept an under-par album from JP.   They are to old to be trying new tricks for fans of other styles of music. To me,they should be writting HEAVY METAL instead of progressive opera and bullshit like Nostradamus. They have never stayed "true" to thier loyal fans,this is one thing that I do not like about Judas Priest.

Those 3 albums are of course different,but they still run along the same formual,like Screaming,Defenders,Painkiller,Angel...ect....

This band does not have much "time" left and it would be a shame to see them go out of thier career with Nostradamus...or worse....a "Nostradamus part 2!!!"

		Head banger wrote:
		but those three albums are all different.  great yes, but not the same. change is fine, nost, well not so much.      J.D. DIAMOND wrote: One thing I can't understand is that many of you are saying in one way or another.."Priest shouldn't keep to the same formula"..... Why the %&*# not?    Everybody jumps for JOY when we talk about "PAINKILLER"..."SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE"......."BRITISH STEEL".... But when it comes to a new album.....you all want "something off the wall different"....??? WTF? LOL! Maybe some of you don't really like those classic albums as much as you say you do. To me,Nostradamus is "TERRIBLE" and "BORING".  It stinks of boring song writting and to me reflects nothing to the 70's style Priest at all....maybe a small riff here or there but never in the vien of 70's Priest. The use of these keyboards is nothing new.....the song structures in tracks like "Awakening/Revelations" sounds like German progressive power metal band "Blind Guardian" whom I do not like.... .....but its Blind Guardian's style at least.    To me,Judas Priest took a "step backwards" with Nostradamus...its already been done with other bands,they did not come up with this sound on thier own...they sound like they copied it from progressive bands such as Blind Guardian. I'm not trying to change anybody's mind here,.....if some like Nostradamus so be it,I never will and I've listened to it about 20 times all the way through just to make sure I've heard all aspects of the album,and each time I've listened to it,it gets worse. After about 19 or 20 times throughout a spand of a year...I'm done with it,and probably will never listen to it again. I am not a "fan boy" and will not accept an under-par album from JP.   They are to old to be trying new tricks for fans of other styles of music. To me,they should be writting HEAVY METAL instead of progressive opera and bullshit like Nostradamus. They have never stayed "true" to thier loyal fans,this is one thing that I do not like about Judas Priest.

I'm not hearing the similarities in the songs you listed man sorry haha.

Devil's Child sounds nothing like Revelations. Revelations isn't even really a fast song.

Same with P&P.

Death doesn't sound a thing like Dissident Agressor at all.

ETc. you see my point. The songs compared aren't even the same vibe or feel really.

I see what your trying to do but my advice is take Nostradamus for what it is, don't compare it to every other Priest album because you'll never enjoy it then. The only thing on the album that reminds me of another Priest song is Nostradamus and Painkiller, and that's just the main riff in both of them. There basically the same fucking riff haha.

		JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
		I'm going do a similarity comparison here of Nostradamus songs to other songs in Priests career, someone feel free to agree, disagree by all means but remember this is going off the style i think to be correct. Ok i'll exclude the preludes and inbetweeners. Prophecy - Some heads are gonna Roll War - Unique Revelations - Devils Child Pestilence and Plague - Call for the Priest Death - Touch of evil, Dissident Aggressor Conquest - Bloodstone Lost Love - Epitaph Persecution - Hellrider Exhiled - Desert Plains Alone - Angel Visions - Tyrant New Beginnings - Unique Nostradamus - Painkiller Future of Mankind - Unique I'm not saying they sound exactly the same but this is how i would compare them.  I would say there is plenty of classic Priest style songs in there even if they have adopted a different approach. Some can't compare why? because they did something different and all credit to them. Plenty of fans of Classic Priest especially from the 70's early 80's would like Nostradamus i believe. Edited at: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:49:02 AM Edited at: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:49:32 AM Edited at: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:55:46 AM