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[Becks] Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:24:16 PM 
Coooooool
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:19:49 PM)
[jimmyjames] Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:23:21 PM 
Those are cool, are they normally hanging up? Never really been an LP collector myself, got cassettes when I was a kid and went to cds from there. My older cousins have truckloads of LPs from the 70s and 80s, should raid their collections and see what's in there. Bound to be a few cool ones.
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[guidogodoy] Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:19:49 PM 
Not hard to find here...


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[Becks] Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:19:00 PM 
SFV was $20 UITE was $25. Rocka Rolla was I think $35. This shop also had Priest Live for about $20-25, and a japanese single thing for $40 which looked cool.
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[jimmyjames] Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:17:20 PM 

Not sure, I've had them for ages. I didn't buy them. Don't know how rare they are or how much they cost. How much were your ones?


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[guidogodoy] Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:06:55 PM 
Sad you missed that gen. I value my LPs almost as much as my guitars. I hosted a college metal radio show for years and framed more than one. As I have said before, I can still say where the skips were in DOTF.

Picture LPs. Nothing better.



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[Becks] Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:01:53 PM 
Is the Rocka Rolla LP hard to find here JJ? I found a copy at a record shop in Petone which made me go LOL! Didn't but it cos I could only afford a couple so I bought SFV and UITE instead.
My father in law has all the Maiden LPs I think, next time we visit I should see if I can get my hands on them lol, just for the artwork alone. I agree about the Somwhere in Time artwork, it kicks ass!
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[jimmyjames] Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:51:19 PM 
Still got the tape in a box somewhere but my version is on cd. LPs are definately the best for artwork and aesthetics (is that how you spell it ) for sure. Got a record player but it's not set up. Have a few records, Got Priests Rocka Rolla on LP, the one with the bottle top and the one with the futruristic warrior or what ever he is, also Sad Wings on LP and AC/DC Highway and Back In Black, plus a few others, haven't listened to them for years and years. 
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[guidogodoy] Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:43:45 PM 
Ah...I hope you have the LP. That is a great loss, I am afraid. While a cassette, CD or even digital might be better in sound, nothing beats holding a work of art in your hands as in an LP. Still own them, still collect them, still have a workable turntable.
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[jimmyjames] Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:38:09 PM 

It was the first Iron Maiden album I ever owned. A guy at school gave it to me on cassette when I was about 12 or 13.


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[guidogodoy] Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:19:56 PM 
I also applaud you for having a friggin' OPINION! Not a pure fanboy who stands by everything. Hell, I have never once said that I am not a Maiden fan but I can't stand their recent material. Not as bad as Metallica but close. IMO, Priest just leaves them in the dust.

Also, I agree with your assessment of "Somewhere." I love some of those songs and, as you said, the artwork is without compare. 'Blade Runner.' While I am a long distance runner, I can't stand the song, however. Sea of Madness, eh.... not my fav. Wasted years and Caught Somewhere in Time are my big favs. Still, I could stare at that artwork forever.

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[jimmyjames] Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:09:52 PM 
Somewhere In Time is the most under-rated Maiden album. I don't think it has a weak track. Some people might say De Ja Vu, Sea Of Madness or The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner are not that great but I reckon they are cool songs. It also has top notch cover artwork and three songs that are Maiden classics, Wasted Years, Stranger In A Strange Land and Heaven Can Wait. 




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[Brian_Evans] Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:15:53 PM 
The power of three.
Iron Maiden made a excellent decision by keeping Janick Gers after the return of Adrian Smith to form a three guitar attack.

[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:47:57 PM 
WOW. I'm impressed...somebody who isn't afraid of listing Iron Maiden albums however I am utterly "shocked" at how you list Somewhere In Time over Killers,Piece Of mind,Iron Maiden and Powerslave....from 1986 when it came out till now I'm still trying to figure out what is good about this album I can't take any of it,not even one song but I must have to say to each his own. At least this is "an opinion" and your not saying "oh gaga everything they do is equally excellent".   I agree that AMOLAD is boring,even though I do like most of it it isn't anywhere near,not even near thier first 5 studio albums(1980 - 1984).  

Whats also interesting is your first 7 albums listed are all from the 1980's and my first 6 albums are also from the 1980's and the rest is all rated as "aeh..ok" to "shit" from both our opionions. I can't even fathom how many people/fans have said the same thing year after year that the 80's material is the band's best and everything else is "ah...ok I guess"...everybody nowadays just wants to see the band "live" because they can't "get anything special" out of thier albums from 1990 till now,they just can't get anything they want from these less than average albums.
 

I'd like to see how many people would go see Iron Maiden if they were to only play songs from the shitty albums from 1990 No Prayer For The Dying to now with A Matter Of life And Death"...1990 - 2006 no "Number Of The Beast" song no nothing just those albums from 1990 to 2006,I'm sure they would still pack em' in because of how many fan boys out there but I'd still bet there wouldn't be as many people excited about it.

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[jimmyjames] Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:19:55 PM 
Ok, I wouldn't really call it a challenge though.

Number Of The Beast ( awesome )
Somewhere In Time ( awesome )
Killers ( awesome )
Piece Of Mind ( agree about Quest For Fire and don't really like To Tame A Land either )
Powerslave ( Solid but the good songs aren't as good as the good songs on POM )
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son ( Great all round album, a touch mellodramatic )
Iron Maiden ( This and Seventh Son I rate equally )
Fear Of The Dark ( Not bad, 7/10 )
Dance Of Death ( A few good songs )
Brave New World ( A few good songs , I rate this and Dance Of Death equally )
No Prayer For The Dying ( Boring )
A Matter Of Life And Death ( Long and boring )
X Factor ( Crap )
Virtual XI ( haven't even heard it because X factor was so crap. )
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:50:24 PM 
Hey jimmy,since "you know what your talking about"...why don't "YOU" list your favorite Iron Maiden studio albums from the best album to the most shit album and you have to list if you like the album or not,this has nothing to do with the baby fanboy but I'm just courious what your ratings would be,so are you up for the challange since you seem to know just about everything or are you afraid of  what your fanboy will say?  I say you will "chicken out".....

Heres mine:

Killers - exellent

Iron Maiden-excellent

The Number Of The Beast-excellent

Piece Of Mind -excellent except for Quest For Fire  the shit song

Powerslave-awsome except for The Duellists shit song

Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son -good album except for The Evil That Men Do crappy song

A Matter Of Life And Death -fair album except for Different World and Benjamim Bragg shit songs

Brave New World -half "ok" half shit album

Somewhere In Time-poor album

Fear Of The Dark- shit album except for the song Be Quick Or Be Dead that song is awsome on a shit album

No Prayer For The Dying -shit album except for Mother Russia that track is good

Dance Of Death - horrible shitty record I hate it all

Virtual Eleven-total SHIT

The X Factor - total SHIT

Well step up mr.major in the english language....  lets see where you stand on Iron Maiden's discography...

And to the fanboy...we need nothing from you as remember..this thread is for serious Iron Maiden discussions" as you haven't added one aspect of anything serious about the band yet lol!!!




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[jimmyjames] Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:18:54 PM 
I know exactly what I'm talking about.


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[Phantom A6] Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:12:49 AM 
No, not "Iron Lady".
The German translation of Iron Maiden is "Eiserne Jungfrau".
"Maid" is a word in the language of "Old-German" and means "Virgin".
"Schwachmat" is a german phrase
(colloquial language)
of "Gehirnamputiert".


A fucktard is an awkward, stupid person that causes harm.
It's a short term for: "fucking retard".


"Schwachmatenkram" - "Kram" means "Stuff".

My posting wasn't an insulting one but all the same postings from the
others all the time are boring totally!! It's not worth to read it.
Just my $0,02.
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[Brian_Evans] Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:30:22 AM 
Check this joker out..

J.D. Diamond wrote: " he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it"

Your argument is a complete disaster and failure man. Baha!! Why? Because I never said that, ever,you know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it. You can argue until you're blue in the face and in the end you're still wrong. Show me where I wrote that and I will agree with you 100%. But the problem is you can't.

JIMMMJAMES wrote: "To me there is a difference between should have and must have"
He hit the nail right on the head but for some reason you just can't see it. You hit a brick wall man so just admit it and move on. Ever seen the movie "My Cousin Vinny", you remind me of that goofy lawyer on there..

bahaaaaaa!!!!   
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[MARK IN THE DARK] Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:03:33 AM 
             
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:21:29 PM 
LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts.  You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
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[spapad] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:52:00 PM 
HA!! Phantom. I Binged you and while it sounds very broken in direct english I get the point! lol
Bing's horrible translation to follow:

Somehow it all can be again and again only one same of you. Boring! Let times what new thought you!
The expert and lovers of iron lady. But time is in some cosy corner and pimpert you times each other to correctly by. Apparently missing you in this respect what quite huge.
Then, you need no longer read this Schwachmatenkram of you!
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[Phantom A6] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:32:11 PM 
Irgendwie könnt ihr alle immer und immer wieder nur ein und
dasselbe von Euch geben. Langweilig!! Laßt Euch mal was neues einfallen!!
Der Experte und der Liebhaber der Eisernen Jungfrau. Geht doch mal
in irgendeine gemütliche Ecke und pimpert Euch mal gegenseitig so richtig
durch. Anscheinend fehlt Euch in dieser Hinsicht was ganz gewaltig.
Dann braucht man auch diesen Schwachmatenkram von Euch hier nicht
mehr lesen!!
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:52:51 PM 
This is one of my favourite Maiden songs. So cool.
[jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:32:29 PM 

So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.

PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.


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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:22:02 PM 
LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all. 

And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!  



Brian Evans wrote today:
  "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"

Brian Evans wrote: 
 "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"

Think about it. lol!



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[jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM 

To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.


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[jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:20:16 PM 
So what you're saying is that you are being anal about the way the sentence is structured and are deliberately misunderstanding what was meant in an attempt to continue this Brian bashing. If you look at Brians response to my second post on the subject he said "exactly". To me there is a difference between should have and must have, to you, maybe not. I did not get the impression from Brians post that he was adamant that an excellent solo  was compulsory for a song to be a good metal song. If you did then you must have misunderstood the post because Brian already said that my take on it was what he meant. There's nothing to argue about.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:00:23 PM 
No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good".  Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right.   Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....

Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!


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[jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:52:56 PM 
JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:36:41 PM 

Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread:  Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny!  Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden 

(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
 
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!


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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:35:43 PM 

Brian Evans wrote today:  "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"

Brian Evans wrote: 
 "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"


Ah but by saying "every good"  metal track should have an excellent guitar solo in it you are 100% saying that "all" metal tracks must contain this "excellent guitar solos in them to be good". This is where you and jimmy james are grossly incorrect.Look up the definitions of each in sentences and you will find I'm 100% correct. In other words when you say "should have" you are implying that unless this track does not have a guitar solo in it then it is not a "good" metal track.


Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo" 


So what about "Twilight Zone" from Iron Maiden Brian,it doesn't have a guitar solo in it at all.


so what you are saying is that Twilight Zone is not a good metal track unless it had an excellent guitar solo in it.   


You need to take a course in logic before opening up your hole to me little Maiden fanboy,and of course I stumped you big time dude,haha everybody who reads this can easily see it. 

You are a walking contradiction dude and I've just proved it,your just to fucking stupid to read it and understand it,maybe your parents failed you as a child? lol! Fuckin Maiden fanboy dork.





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[Head banger] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:21:24 AM 
I find it interesting that Priest fans defend POE saying that the songs sound great live.  WTF?  its not the same song.  add some solos, speed it up, its different.  look at diamonds and rust.  not quite the same as the Joan Baez song is it.
[Brian_Evans] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:39:59 AM 
"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."

I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was  just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:21:48 AM 
Brian Evans wrote:Twilight Zone basically has a bass solo all the way through it. Steve Harris is excellent! Ha!

Auh ha! You've been stumped dude,that aint no "bass solo" lol!! And Twilight Zone doesn't have a "good guitar solo" in it,only some bends that an unexperienced guitarist could easily do.  And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track. Face it,since Iron Maiden has the song Twilight Zone,not every song "should" have an excellent guitar solo. 

Your a contradiction walking my friend.

Check mate. LOFL!!!! "Bass solo"?? HAHAHA!! Please,if that is a bass solo thats the weakest bass solo in the history of rock/metal. Oh did I say check mate? Oh yeah,I did....

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[spapad] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:04:49 PM 
Oh my, let's go back to green eyed lady over that acid induced piece to sh*t! I hate that song! I remember hearing the shortened version of it on radio as a kid and even THAT was too fucking long!!!
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[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:52:19 PM 
Exactly.
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[Brian_Evans] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:51:50 PM 
Here's a live video of "Heading Out To The Highway" and what is that I hear in there.. could it be, a guitar solo. Dual guitar solo. Hmmmm, wonder why they added that? Could it be because it made the song even better? Did you hear it????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zaxZ0j_70

Here's "Breaking The Law" live from recent British Steel Tour and again what is that I hear in there, another guitar solo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HnFvb_NVk

Why did they add that? Just for kicks? Are you going to go argue with Glenn Tipton and K.K. Downing and tell them that they ruined the song with that solo? Well if you do, let me know how that goes over.

United
Take on the World
Love Bites

Would have been better with solos but still good metal tracks. Although United seems like a copy of Take on the World.

Twilight Zone basically has a bass solo all the way through it. Steve Harris is excellent! Ha!   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:22:16 AM)
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[jimmyjames] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:31:00 PM 
Yeah but he said "should" and I agree in a sense. He didn't say every great  metal track "does" have an excellent solo. He's not saying there aren't any great songs without solos, he just thinks they should have them.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:18:27 PM 
Thier not favorites of mine either jimmy but its the point that I'm addressing here. I however do think Heading Out To The Highway "IS" a great track with harmony bends,not "good guitar solos" and I do think "Twilight Zone" by Iron Maiden is a great track with harmony bends not guitar solos.

So by Brian saying  "every good metal track should have an excellent guitar solo in it".....well Twilight Zone doesn't have an "excellent" guitar solo in it as it hardly has a solo in it at all,so what he is saying is that the Twilight Zone track is not a "good" track and at the same time he claims every Iron Maiden track to be top notch equal to "any" Iron Maiden song ever written....he is caught in a squeeze play between 3rd and home....in other words hes now got to be extremely careful the way he answers this post because he will be caught in a "contradiction".
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[jimmyjames] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:02:50 PM 
These are not great examples JD. Take On The World and United are two of the weakest songs Priest have ever released in my opinion. I hate those songs. I also find Breaking The Law boring as hell as well. Love Bites is ok but not one of DOTFs best songs. I actually kind of agree with both Brian and yourself on this one. I think a true metal song should have some kind of shredding guitar solo in it somewhere but like you say, lots of bands do fine without them, especially in some of the sub-genres of metal. Bands who have made their name with deadly soloing and shredding should always continue in that vein, then we would never have albums like St Anger thrust upon us.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:08:18 AM 
Or even how about "Twilight Zone" by your one and only Iron Maiden Brian,those guitars what you hear are not solos,they are harmony bends and harmony bends are a far cry from what you are calling "good solo" as you think every "good metal song" should have "good solos" in them......"Heading Out To The Highway" doesn't have "good solos " in it,only harmony bends....

Give Twilight Zone from the Killers album a listen and you will find no "good" solos in them......

So what are you trying to say? That the song "Twilight Zone" is not a "good" metal track? There DEFINATELY is no guitar solos in it,only easy bends any unexperienced guitar player could easily do so whats your answer for this and all the other tracks I've listed with no "good" guitar solos in it?


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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:22:16 AM 
Brian Evans wrote:  "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".

I "disagree" fully.  What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.

The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in  most punk?  

What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.

 Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?





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[guidogodoy] Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:41:48 PM 
LOL!!!!! No, not long nor plodding. Compared with what, I might ask? BWWAHAAHAAAAAA!!!



  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:12:03 PM)
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:12:03 PM 
Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!

Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:07:36 PM)
[guidogodoy] Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:07:36 PM 
Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.

I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.




  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:55:17 PM)
[Brian_Evans] Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:55:17 PM 
Yeah that song is excellent.

Here's a good live version


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:08:10 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:08:10 PM 
The Longest Day,an excellent Iron maiden song.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:19:07 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:04:50 PM 
Yeah your right,its all about opinions,mine is no different as I don't have the final say in anything,its simply only my opinion.The new album may be awsome,who knows.Saxon released thier single "Live To Rock" last year before the album(Into The Labyrinth)was released and I HATED it and still do.

"Live To Rock" is a boring lame weak song that sucks and I was heavily disappointed,it sounds like a washed up bad-era-Saxon track and I think the band could of come up with something better.But the rest of the album is a good Saxon LP...well I forgot to add "Hell Cat" that song SUCKS lol! But the album has 13 tracks on it and 2 of them utterly suck so 11 tracks is enough to make a great album.
 
A Matter Of Life And Death is a great album with 10 songs on it there are only 2 tracks that I do not like and its the same senario as when Saxon released Live To Rock as I don't like Maiden's first 2 tracks they released to the fans "Different World" and "Benjamin Bragg" and I was disappointed with them.
 
But the other 8 songs I really like,those 8 songs although they are a little bit progressive but in a great way done right they remind me of material from Piece Of Mind and Powerslave. The Pilgrim for example could of been on the Powerslave album and in my opinion Out Of The Shadows sounds more Piece Of Mind than The Number Of The Beast to me as Piece Of Mind is one of my favorite Iron Maiden albums. 

The Longest Day is excellent and is "underrated" in my opinion,the lyrics to that song are brilliant and over-looked. I think that A Matter Of Life And Death is the best Iron Maiden album since 1988 Seventh Son album but to others they don't like it,its all opinions and again mine isn't the final say.
 
How about this...I wish I liked Brave New Worlds and Dance Of Death as much as I like A Matter Of Life And Death but I just don't. And your right about the last 2 albums by both bands as Maiden definately topped Priest with AMOLAD over Nostradamus,easily. I just hope I'm wrong about the new Maiden album,I don't want to be let down as I've been a fan since 1982.  


 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:19:07 AM)
Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:20:06 PM
[Brian_Evans] Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:19:07 AM 
Out of the Shadows from the 2006 "A Matter Of Life and Death" album. This sounds just as good as older Maiden and if you ask me it could have easily come from 1982's "The Number Of the Beast" album. Same quality vocals, drums, guitars, songwriting, ect.










Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:20:08 AM
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