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The most underrated heavy metal band in the world






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[Budred] Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:05:55 PM 
I still have a couple of Venom LP"s. Welcome to Hell and At War With Satan.
I plan on converting them to MP3 and then to disc this weekend. I have about 
80  albums I want to do this to. I did 15 already and they sound really good. I 
think they sound better than regular cd's. I did Saxon's Strong Arm of the law
a few weeks back. The cool thing about doing this is that I'm hearing albums I
haven't heard in over twenty years. I have about 200 albums but only about 90
that I haven't already bought on disc. The cd's I'm making sound better than 
manufactured cd's of the same album. When I finish doing the ones I don't have
on disc i'm thinking of doing my Priest albums. I knew LP"s sounded better than 
disc but I didn't know converting them would sound better also. Can anyone 
explain this?      ....Guido? (knower of all)

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 30, 2010 1:33:48 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 30, 2010 1:33:48 PM 
Well they are alright Budred,I don't have anything negative to say about them,but I really don't get into too many bands that play heavy metal/thrash,only a hand full throughout the years but they are close to some of the bands that I like,Hirax,Deathrow,Hallow's Eve,Razor but these bands I only like certain albums from,not every album ect.... Good example though.

My favorite styles of music are traditional heavy metal and "OLD" black metal from 1980 when Venom started it up to the year 1995 but I'll give it untill the year 2000 but after that I don't like any bands that emerged onto the scene.At this point its just ridiculous to form a "black metal band",fans of this once elite  genre who enjoy it should NOT form a black metal band,they should let the old school bands do thier thing.  I really don't like very much "death metal" at all even though I have a fun project with a friend for the last 10 years that is early 90's death metal but its in the vien of old Morbid Angel and old Deicide. Those 2 bands are the best death metal bands but only thier early work,thier later stuff is ridiculous and boring,sold out and washed up.

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[Budred] Friday, April 30, 2010 7:27:23 AM 
J.D., I don't have a link but go to Lastfm and key in Fog of War616 and
listen to the track Fog of War. It's not that I think you'll love it but it reminds
me of the kind of music you're always talking about. It's a little thrashy, with
a European style of guitar playing and decent vocals. Check it out and let 
me know what you think. I don't think you have to sign up to listen to music
there. Check out my page. Check out my journal of "Bands I've seen live".
Some will make you puke but I think you'll notice an interesting mix of music.
Realize that alot of these bands were openers so it's not like I went there to see them.
Also a couple of the shows I went because my wife wanted to. She was a dance teacher
for 15 years so don't hate too much when you read them. Peace!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:51:46 PM 
Saxon - Blood Letter - Unleash The Beast 1997
[guidogodoy] Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:41:10 AM 
Oh, Saxon at Harpo's in Detroit. Who has a birthday coming up?

cgi.ebay.com/SAXON-live-DVD-AT-HARPOS-in-Detroit-1998_W0QQitemZ390159910806QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0
[ron h] Sunday, April 04, 2010 4:43:40 AM 
[Lidija] Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:35:53 PM 
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:39:32 PM 

SAXON - ALTAR OF THE GODS   from the Solid Ball Of Rock LP
This track is definately one of Saxon's finest on a less than average album unfortunately.


This album is "not a good Saxon album over-all" but it does hold a couple of killer Saxon tracks: Solid Ball Of Rock,Lights In The Sky,Baptism Of Fire,Barvarian Rhapsody and  "ALTAR OF THE GODS".



Edited at: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:44:10 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 02, 2010 3:25:31 PM 


Dogs Of War - 1995

This LP has 10 songs on it Painkilller and in my opinion only 2 of them suck "Hold On" and "Give It All Away" but the other 8 tracks are an albums worth of classic Saxon.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 02, 2010 11:08:12 AM 
Thats cool Painkiller,alls you need now are Dogs Of War,Unleash The Beast,Metalhead and Killing Ground and you'll have the 12 Saxon albums that are the band's best. 
The other 6 albums I wouldn't buy. My 2 favorite Saxon albums are Lionheart and The Inner Sanctum.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Friday, April 02, 2010 10:06:37 AM)
[Painkiller87] Friday, April 02, 2010 10:06:37 AM 
Today I am doing an all Saxon listening Friday here at work starting from the beginning of what I have to the most recent I have. 

The albums I have are: 
Saxon
Wheels of Steel
Strong Arm of the Law
Denim and Leather
The Power and the Glory
Lionheart
The Inner Sanctum
Into the Labyrinth

Will be starting Denim and Leather after break. Today's a great day to listen to Saxon!
[spapad] Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:32:53 PM 
HA!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:50:15 PM)
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, April 01, 2010 4:50:15 PM 

yeah hey.lol.wtf must be something JUDAS PRIEST cant be bicycle parts.lol


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:56:12 PM)
[spapad] Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:56:12 PM 
I'd have paid to see her expression! lol  I'm sure it was within the realm of WTF??? LOL
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:56:23 PM 



Saxon - I've Got To Rock(To Stay Alive) from The Inner Sanctum LP 2007.....let Iron Maiden take a baseball bat and hump each other with it because they can't come close to the greatness of "SAXON". 
Biff Byford = the second best heavy metal vocalist next to our Metal God!!! 


Edited at: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:00:12 PM
[hellrider 31038] Sunday, March 28, 2010 2:38:50 PM 
yeah me to lol.
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[guidogodoy] Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:13:25 AM 
Hey, wait a minute. I SHIPPED it! LOL! Just copied her style and used the same giant box! HAAAAAAA!!!!

I still would have loved to see the expression on mom's face when she saw a massive box sent from Guido to Hellrider.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Saturday, March 27, 2010 6:44:48 AM)
[hellrider 31038] Saturday, March 27, 2010 6:44:48 AM 
.hey Spapad.no unforturnatly i was not home my mom recieved it and placed it in the kitchen for me.i saw on it to HEEEEELLLLLLLLRRRRRRIIIIIIDDDDDEEEEERRRRRRR and then knew what it was and who it was coming from.HEEEELLLLLL YEEEEAAAHHHHH.the  advert arived in prefect condition due to your.TOTAL FUN?EN HARD CORE JOB WITH THE SHIPPING BOX.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 26, 2010 8:38:23 PM)
[spapad] Friday, March 26, 2010 8:38:23 PM 
HA!!!!! Considering it's orginal incarnation of being a heavy box material used to ship matresses in, and then it went through the mail two more times, I'd say That, My friend! is a Damn good Shipping Box!!! LMAO!   Now tell me Hellrider,............where you home when they delivered it??..............It looks like ones of those giant checks you get for winning something! LOL  It served it's pupose well, twice. 
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:23:49 PM)
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:25:46 PM 
thanks man.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06:13 PM)
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:12:00 PM 
we dont got cable and i barly watch tv..
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06:13 PM)
[guidogodoy] Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:06:13 PM 
Nah, duct tape you to the flagpole, man! LOL!!!! You have to watch more South Park!  

www.southparkstudios.com/clips/151627


 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:01:41 PM)
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[hellrider 31038] Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:01:41 PM 
HELL YEAH.well atleast she is good for something hey.lol.just kidding.lol. just kidding cough, cough.lol.now i am afraid she is going to find me and tape me to something like a  light  post
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:02:29 PM)
[guidogodoy] Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:02:29 PM 
HAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Like I said before, all thanks go to the queen of tape! SPA!
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[hellrider 31038] Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:23:49 PM 

HELLLLLLLLLLLLL YEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY GOOD FRIEND AND METAL BROTHER.TOTAL HARD CORE JOB.STILL GOT IT.LOL .THE HEEEELLLLLLLLRRRRRRRIIIIIDDDDDDDDEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR THANKS YOU BOTH VERY MUCH AGAIN.
 


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:54:53 PM)
[Becks] Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:14:07 PM 
Hell yeah JD that kicks ass!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:17:43 PM)
[guidogodoy] Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:54:53 PM 
Hey, I represent that! Ask Hellrider. I did Spa proud! HAAAAAAA!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:38:19 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:17:43 PM 
Fuckin Kick Ass live track from Wacken
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:38:19 PM 
Well we are guys spa,we aren't smart enough to properly tape up a package!! lol!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:48:44 PM)
[spapad] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:48:44 PM 
OH COME ONE GUYS!!! Tape ===== Security!!! The more tape, the less chance the ape style delivery system can mess with the package!! J.D.'s package was even golden! The Box it'self is heavy and made well, so it didn't have to use as much tape on his box as I did your's Guid because the box was "Kickass" LOL
I still strapped about five times over on the main seam though. LOL

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:33:28 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:30:30 PM 
LOL! No she sure wasn't! lol!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:33:28 AM)
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:33:28 AM 
She wasn't kidding when she said that she uses a lot of tape, eh? LOL!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:08:37 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:08:37 AM 
HAHA! Yeah no worries,next time I talk to Depp I'll have him send ya a pm lol!! Hey thanks for the Defenders poster spa,I got it today and it rocks!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:43:21 PM)
[spapad] Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:43:21 PM 
Thanks J.D. I do love that song. Plus My favorite Man plays the role in film! Anytime to tie a good song to J. Depp is okay with me! lol
A girl's gotta have her standards!

Im sure that is not what you meant, but how could I not think of him!

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:22:04 PM 


Demon Sweeney Todd....what an excellent song!!!
Edited at: Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:22:31 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:28:01 AM 

lol! Ah thanks spa,I really appreciate it,I've got a small collection of Defenders Of The Faith stuff,I've got an old 80's jacket with Defenders on the back,a tapestry,buttons/pins/I've got the LP japanese version with all lyrics in Japanese with different booklet,and a cardboard cut-out of the metallion that I got from a record store after the album was out for a long time back then ect...thanks spa!


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, March 19, 2010 11:11:59 PM)
[spapad] Friday, March 19, 2010 11:11:59 PM 
OK, drum roll!!!.....................You wont believe it!....................I actually went to the post office!!! Monday, and I hope it get's there unmangled and by the way, did I mention I really like to use a bunch of tape? LOL
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, March 19, 2010 3:21:29 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 19, 2010 3:21:29 PM 
Hey thank you spapad,no rush if your busy you could send it another day no worries my good friend!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:49:35 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 19, 2010 2:12:22 PM 


Yes Saxon are kick ass,especially new era Saxon but Judas Priest and the Metal God are masters in the arts of heavy metal without question,no band can ever surpass these guys in the realm of traditional british heavy metal,or any type of metal for that matter. Fuckin' A I love this band!!!!!!!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 19, 2010 2:09:53 PM 

Edited at: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:12:37 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 19, 2010 12:59:50 PM 
 HAHA yep,your right about that Brian! Boy you sure really shook this Saxon thread with that one,even after all the posts of lame Saxon era that I've been posting,you really got us with that one boy...how can I carry on now?
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Friday, March 19, 2010 12:00:02 PM)
[Brian_Evans] Friday, March 19, 2010 12:00:02 PM 
Iron Maiden never released an album cover that looked quite like this! BaHaHA! Is this Saxon's version of Eddie?
[Brian_Evans] Friday, March 19, 2010 11:50:27 AM 
That belongs in the cheesy album cover thread. Baha!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:12:14 AM)
[spapad] Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:49:35 PM 
BTW J.D. Just pulled the last of the banners, and will send you two tomorrow. Sorry, both are not pristine, but still pretty good for, what, 25 years old? lol
Flora has the best one on her wall. I think she would cut my hand off if I took it! lol
[spapad] Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:38:23 PM 
Good Bless Victoria, and God Bless Saxon!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:18:34 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:33:04 PM 
  


K2M this first Saxon album is worth buying,8 tracks and as I said only one of them I don't like (Big Teaser) but the rest are very interesting for a 1979 debut album,very un-played by many. Saxon have said many times they play traditional heavy metal and also traditional rock & roll,rock and hard rock. But they do have a majority of thier material thats traditional heavy metal,but this first album is rock all the way and its rare to hear people talk about it.


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[K2M] Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:03:02 PM 
I am interested in that SAXON Album
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:48:08 PM 


English Man O' War,check it out Steve...  

 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Steve Forrest from Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:30:05 PM)
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:12:13 PM 
Cool Painkiller, the only track I didn't like was Big Teaser,but the rest of the album is a cool groovy 70's vibe for sure,it may not be Saxon's best work but its not a bad album. Power & The Glory is not bad either.  Yeah 18 studio albums and only 6 of them I wouldn't recommend. Maiden has now 15 studio albums and there are 8 of them I wouldn't recommend. 

While everybody is flocking towards Iron Maiden your collecting Saxon and going against the popular trend,good for you and rightfully so because they do have some excellent albums thats why in my opinion Saxon is the biggest underrated heavy metal band of all time.9 out of 10 people you ask will not know thier music ,they really only know thier name and logo. 


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[Painkiller87] Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:12:14 AM 

Finally got their first album. Pretty cool with a serious 70s vibe entering the 80s. Getting "The Power and The Glory" soon via Amazon.

[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:22:44 AM 
Hey thats cool Steve,yeah part 2 is a good show ect.. And yeah,Lionheart is Saxon's best album but only in my opinion,I'm not saying that everything I say must go....but I'm just judging thier albums on a traditional sound and then its all about opinions ect...but yes I would stick up for Lionheart as thier best album.I like all the tracks on this one,and even if you don't like ..lets say 2 tracks you don't care for there are still 9 other songs that are cool a whole album's worth of great Saxon material. Just scroll down this thread and check out those 12 albums that I said were Saxon's best,I'd say 90% of Saxon fans who know thier stuff would agree with me.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:18:34 AM 
LOL! Thanks spa,your the greatest. Yeah,it cracks me up,although Victoria loves traditional metal and rock she also does like some Disturbed,Godsmack and Korn and some 80's hair bands ect...and she can give a rats what I say lol!!! She tells me "fuuuuuuuck you I don't care what you say"...LOL!!  I try not to bash her bands and really I've been good lol!!! Yeah shes right with you all the way with that one spa!!! lol!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:15:32 PM)
[Steve Forrest] Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:30:05 PM 
Just picked up my first Saxon cd, The Eagle Has Landed part 2. What a great show! Next I will try "Lionheart". JD, you recommended that one, so I'll try it next.
[spapad] Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:15:32 PM 
Ha!! J.D. you know me and the Miss likes Disturbed! LOL We will never change! LOL You keep preaching to the chior and Victoria and I will sneak out the back door and listen to some of those "other bands" lol
Love ya J.D.
I won't promise, but I'll try to get my lazy ass to the Mailbox sometime soon. Shame on me. 

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:15:53 PM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:15:53 PM 
LOL! Right on Budred I appreciate your advice but I'll be turning 40 in June and trust me,theres no way I'll EVEr change! lol! I don't like any other types of "metal" or rock,and I'll never open my mind to any non-traditional bands,thats just the blood inside me its who I am,again I'm not bashing you for your opinions,but being narrow minded to me is "the way to go"!!   But I definately don't expect everybody to be like this at all,I enjoy being in the selective group of people on this earth that is narrow minded! HA!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:13:48 PM)
[Budred] Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:13:48 PM 
Man, I was so expecting you to be like,"F*ck you". You being cool proves what someone else
on here said to me. I take things to serious. As for the narrow minded thing I was the exact same 
way until I turned about 30 or so. Believe it or not, if you open your mind you will find that there is more 
to music than just metal. I listen to all styles of music now. Don't get me wrong, I'm a metalhead at heart
but now I listen to other forms of music as well. I have about 900 cd's, close to 600 of them store bought,
at least 800 of them are hard rock or metal. I've been to over 200 concerts and less than 20 were non metal shows,
so believe me when I tell you I like metal. I'm not trying to change you or tell you that you're wrong, but I gotta tell you
an open mind is the way to go. Peace!

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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:51:18 PM 
(lol!) Oh yeah the Rock On The Range 2010...well it just blew me away that there were like 15 bands and not one of them I could find that were even decent,so that was me being a dick haha!!  Sorry Budred,I know you like all those bands now but to me its a nightmare as I'm a metal purest and extremely "narrow minded" but I'm proud of being 'narrow minded" because it ancors me into the pure form of metal and hard rock.

I have approx. 60 different bands on CD(all original cds with booklets ect...no burned copies) and they are all true metal,thrash,black,death,hard rock bands. Godsmack,Rob Zombie,Korn,Disturbed are my enemies and I fight against these bands on a yearly basis when ever I get the chance,those are the bands that over-crowd the rest of the good bands in my book.

But this is only my opinion so I'm not saying you suck for liking these bands,it just sucks whenever I see them thats all. lol! As for Saxon goes...even though you love Judas Priest I don't think Saxon these days is your cup of tea as they do not have any kind of sound like the bands you like listed in the ROTR show.
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[Budred] Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:59:41 AM 
Rock on the Range 2010. Crew Stadium, Columbus Ohio.
Godsmack, Rob Zombie,etc. etc..
As far as Saxon, dude it's all good.That was me being a dick.
The three albums I named are the ones I like. In the last 15 years 
I haven't even listened to Saxon so that analysis is stupid on my part.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:32:36 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:32:36 AM 
(lol!) Thats cool and all and I get you reacted after a post I left after yours ect..ect..ect...but WTF does "(ROTR 2010)" mean anyways lol! ?   Have you been smoking my pot or have I been smoking too much?  (ROTR 2010)?? 

Well,going back to Saxon I was just showing that they do have some shit albums, out of 18 albums 4 albums totally suck and 2 others are half shit and half good,that leaves 12 albums that are good Saxon LPs,they may have a song or 2 on them that is not good but the majority of them are good...80% of these 12 Saxon albums are excellent. I like ALL the songs on the 2004 Lionheart album and all the songs on the 2007 The Inner Sanctum album.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Monday, March 15, 2010 6:17:46 PM)
[Budred] Monday, March 15, 2010 6:17:46 PM 
Actually it was directed at you. I was throwing a jab because of a post you left after one of mine.
(ROTR 2010). I had it pointed out to me afterwards that I take things to serious on this site. 
I took it as a personal attack, I guess I shouldn't have. Peace.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, March 15, 2010 2:05:48 PM 
Hey Budred....."who" are you talking to anyways? It didn't make any sense to me?  I do agree with kiamat,I believe that thier last 7 studio albums are the band's best material in thier career.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:28:07 PM)
[kiamat] Monday, March 15, 2010 3:26:48 AM 
Have you checked out their most recent stuff Budred? I'd say some of it tops those albums.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Saturday, March 13, 2010 7:59:29 PM)
[Budred] Saturday, March 13, 2010 7:59:29 PM 
Look at my stupid ass, that's _Denim and Leather.
 

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[Budred] Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:28:07 PM 

Demin and Leather, Wheels of Steel, and Strong Arm of the Law over 18 albums and nearly 30 years is the best
they can come up with and you tell everyone else their music sucks. My goodness, now that's funny.

[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:49:33 PM 
Yeah Painkiller,it sounds like you almost have all of Saxon's 12 worthy albums. 12 albums out of 18 isn't bad.  The Dogs Of War album has 10 songs,2 of them are utterly terrible(Hold On and Give It All Away) but the other 8 tracks are classic Saxon,you should enjoy that album. Unleash The Beast has 11 tracks and only 2 of them are weak(Terminal Velocity -  although many Saxon fans like this track, I don't...and Absent Friends the ballad)but the other 9 tracks are classic Saxon. 

Metalhead has10 songs and one of them is lame(Prisoner) but the other 9 tracks are great Saxon.Killing Ground has 11 tracks and 2 of them I didn't care for "Hell Freezes Over" and "Deeds Of Glory" but the other 9 tracks are great Saxon. The first Saxon album 1979 isn't their best material as Rocka Rolla isn't Priest's best either but its not terible,8 songs on it and the only one that blows is "Big Teaser" but the rest is 70's rock Saxon style,its worth getting if you like the band. 

Also get 2003 "Heavy Metal Thunder" its a CD of re-recorded tracks from Saxon's first 6 studio albums,they re-recorded the song 'Crusader" wich is by all means a great Saxon track,just not a good album.But that album is worth getting,I like the updated version of Motorcycle Man better than the original on Wheels Of Steel,most of them are better...there are one or two that I prefer the originals better but for the most part the re-recorded tracks are better.


As I keep saying many times,Saxon's last 7 studio albums from 1995 Dogs Of War till now 2009 Into The Labyrinth are very consistant,extremely more consistant than the overrated poor song writting of Iron Maiden yet Maiden get all the credit out there.....its a joke.  

 [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:05:47 AM)
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[Painkiller87] Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:05:47 AM 
Sweet. Thanks for the advice. So let's see.... all I am missing is Saxon, Power & The Glory, and Dogs of War to Killing Ground.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, March 08, 2010 1:21:50 PM 
Yeah Painkiller87,Saxon has 18 studio albums and there are 6 of them that you should stay away from:

Crusader -1984
Innocense Is No Excuse -1985
Rock The Nations - 1986
Destiny -1988
Solid Ball Of Rock -1990
Forever Free - 1992


Those 6 albums are terrible and are not at all good Saxon records.Solid Ball Of Rock and Forever Free both have a few songs on them that are good Saxon songs but overall the albums suck. The first 5 Saxon albums are cool and the last 7 Saxon album are cool,those 12 albums are the Saxon that are good quality.

Saxon -1979
Wheels Of Steel -1980
Strong Arm Of The Law -1981
Denim & Leather -1981(same year as Strong Arm)
Power & The Glory -1983
Dogs Of War -1995
Unleash The Beast -1997
Metalhead -1999
Killing Ground -2001
Lionheart -2004
The Inner Sanctum -2007
Into The Labyrinth -2009

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[Painkiller87] Monday, March 08, 2010 7:01:21 AM 
Wow..... that is truly terrifying what happened in those years. I have heard bad things about this album, Innocence...  and Rock the Nations, but wow. That was bad.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:04:25 PM 
lol! Dude I know it! Yeah it was the label's idea to sound like this but it was Saxon who wrote the shitty songs,they totally sold out to the American market back then just to try an sell some albums,they "sold out". But yeah they have come around full circle these last 15 years,thats an under statement!  

Just showing that Saxon does have some poor LPs.The worst 4 Saxon albums are 1984 Crusader even though the song Crusader itself is excellent,but the rest of the album really blows. Then there is 1985 Innocense Is No Excuse I don't like any songs off it,1986 Rock The nations has only 1 song on it thats ok the rest are shit,1988 Destiny album I don't like any songs off it at all. Those 4 albums suck. 1990 Solid Ball Of Rock and 1992 Forever Free both have half the album thats cool and half the album that sucks,kinda like Point Of Entry. Those 6 Saxon's albums are not as good as the other 12 albums I would recommend.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by kiamat from Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:36:54 AM)
[kiamat] Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:36:54 AM 
Biff's voice over those synths... just so wrong-sounding! I can only hope this was more the label's idea than theirs, or maybe it was theirs (But I can forgive them, they finally got back on track despite the Channel 4 'band makeover' whatever it was). 
That album cover is pretty rubbish too. Not as bad as 'Innocence..' but fairly boring and stupid-looking. Not an iconic jobby like Wheels of Steel or Lionheart. Those are covers you can wear with pride on a shirt!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 06, 2010 1:23:50 AM 
I Can't Wait Anymore - 1988 Destiny album this song fuckin sucks! HAHAHA this Saxon song blows to high heaven man,what were they thinking?? lol! The sound alone sucks and sounds like Bon Jovi!! lol!! As I've known for years Saxon does have a couple of lame albums filled with lame songs!! lol!!
[Dale T.] Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:56:44 PM 
I like that somg, reminds me of ac/dc. Thats a pretty good cd.
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[Deep Freeze] Monday, March 01, 2010 11:15:26 AM 
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Monday, March 01, 2010 9:04:33 AM)
[Painkiller87] Monday, March 01, 2010 9:04:33 AM 
Ahh yes. That is a great track as well. I think it would be perfect for Deep Freeze as his theme. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:07:07 PM 
Going Nowhere Fast is a great track off this album as well. I can fully understand that Biffs vocals are not for everybody but to me he is the 2nd best vocalist in heavy metal.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:27:46 PM 
Cool....Your entitled to your opinion and Saxon never did it for you,I understand.....I'm a fan of some of King Diamond's stuff and I've heard complaints of him for 25 years......its the same way with "Megadeth" for me,I don't mind the music but I utterly can't stand Dave Mustain's whinning vocals,to me he has the worst vocals in metal's history.
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[Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:10:16 AM 
Saxon... They're all top notch musicians, but they never did it for me. I tried really fucking hard to get into their music, but I never succeeded. It's because of Biff Byford. I can't stand his vocals. His vocals ruin the songs. Every fucking time!



Let's take this song as an example. It begins with an excellent guitar solo, followed by a couple kick-ass riffs and then Biff Byford opens his trap and the whole thing goes down in flames. It's like that with almost every Saxon song IMO.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, February 26, 2010 12:04:39 PM 
Yeah Painkiller87,I agree Red Star Falling is absolutely excellent,very underrated track and definately one of Saxon's best songs let alone the best song off The Inner Sanctum wich is my 2nd fav.Saxon album next to Lionheart.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Friday, February 26, 2010 9:07:31 AM)
[Painkiller87] Friday, February 26, 2010 9:07:31 AM 

My favorite of this great album.
[Budred] Monday, February 22, 2010 5:55:28 PM 
I just recently recorded Saxon's "The Eagle Has Landed" from vinyl to my Ipod. 
I was jamming to it today in the car. I forgot how good it is. I haven't heard it in nearly
 20 years.  Peace!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:51:13 PM 
Yeah the only record store that has at least an album of Saxon is Silver platters up here.
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[spapad] Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:43:18 PM 
While is does not completely suck it  does harken back to the "Sailing to America" days, but a bit worse. lol  Still I do like them, they are an excellent band. Damn shame these days most Metal you have to order from Amazon or something like it as you can't go to a "record store" anymore and expect to find them.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:26:04 PM 
  

Thanks spa,hehehe check this lame song out,from thier 3rd album Strong Arm of The Law..."Sixth Form Girls" wicvh I hate!! lol!! Well this song is the only shitty tune on the album spa,it spanks of bad song writting and is covered in cheese!! HA! Yeah thanks spapad,Saxon are a great band but they have and still do put out some cheesey songs man!! lol!! Hey if it were not for this song,the whole album would be cool but noooo lol!!![Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:18:04 PM)

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[spapad] Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:18:04 PM 
J.D. I like the Saxon fan page, because you have NEVER once coated all they do with sugar. You are a fan and critic. It's always a good source of all that is Saxon.   Of course, you already know that!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:44:21 PM 
Hell yeah Becks,I thought is was cool too! The song "Voice" is amazing as well as Valley Of The Kings.Thier rock songs are groovey too like Slow Lane Blues and Crime Of Passion,good stuff.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:36:07 PM)
[Becks] Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:36:07 PM 
awesome song.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:20:28 PM 


Batallions Of Steel This is the first song off Into The Labyrinth kiamt,this song like Valley Of The Kings is an excellent song.This track holds quality value as does The Sentinel and Hellrider ect...its very cool British Heavy Metal. And yeah I hate the Live To Rock song and the video is cringeworthy!! lol! It sucks as bad as the song does! lol!
 
Live To Rock was the first track that Saxon put out for the Into The Labyrinth album and I instantly didn't like it and now I hate it even worse but the album itself is very good.I think Lionheart and The Inner Sanctum are better albums but that doesn't mean Into The Labyrinth isn't good.

Take away 2 lame songs: Live To Rock and Hell Cat and you have 11 good Saxon tracks.... 

Batallions Of Steel
Demon Sweeney Todd
The Letter
Valley Of The Kings
Slow Lane Blues
Crime Of Passion
Premonition in D Minor
Voice
Protect yourselves
Come Rock Of Ages(The Circle Is Complete)
Coming Home(Bottleneck Version)

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[kiamat] Saturday, February 20, 2010 2:07:29 PM 

Urgghh- Live to Rock. Did you ever see the video for it? Cringeworthy stuff..
I have heard "Into the Labyrinth" but I only have the tracks 'Live to Rock' and 'Valley of the Kings' (Now that is a good song).


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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:47:15 AM 
Ha ha yeah kiamat I don't get in a sing-along-poppy mood no but I do listen to upbeat shit like Motorhead and of course Saxon and Priest's uplifting songs like Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise or something like that but Suzy Hold On is not one of them that does it for me! 

But yeah back then the record lael did make them come up with pop tunes for the American market to try and sell records.Its like the album after Wheels Of Steel "Strong Arm Of The Law" where they have 8 songs and 1 of them is terrible "Sixth Form Girls" wich is cheesey!! lol! 

But Saxon have come around full circle these last 15 years they have written the best material of thier career,better than thier 80's albums by far in my opinion.Have you heard thier last album 2009 "Into The Labyrinth"? Its a great album,maybe not Saxon's best but it is a good record....13 songs on it and only 2 of them are weak,the first single they put out "Live To Rock" I really hate and Hell Cat I can't stand either but the other 11 tracks are classic Saxon,11 songs makes up for a good album.
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[kiamat] Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:55:32 AM 
I agree its not one I play a lot- if I happen to be in the mood for something thats a bit sing-along and poppy  its okay (I imagine that doesn't ever happen to you J.D.!), but its not very Saxon is it? I've heard that their record label used to insist on them sticking in a ballad or more mainstream track on their albums so the label could get a chart hit- which sucks, but at least the real fans got most of a real hard rocking album.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:02:24 AM 


Suzy Hold On video from the "Wheels Of Steel" album 1980. The Wheels Of Steel album was a great record but this song fuckin blows!! lofl!! HAHAHAHA look at them in this video man,they look absolutely pathetic,the worst part that cracks me up the most is the part where Steve Dawson(bass player) attempts to jump on the drum riser thing but its not but 2 feet tall!!
 
Its a sad joke,the song itself is absolutely terrible in my opinion I know there are other Saxon fans who like this track,but to me its ridicoulous just as Parental Guidence was and is,but this time era Saxon spanked of bad image,you took one look at them and laughed your ass off!! But music wise YES you bet,the Wheels Of Steel album was and is great except for this Suzy Hold On track! LOL!! 

Hey I love Saxon but there is nothing wrong with admitting they have some shitty tunes and albums and having a little fun spotting them out!! lol!!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:49:53 PM 
Here is the intro "The Return" that goes into "Lionheart"...just absolutely awsome british heavy metal done the traditional way.
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[Steve Forrest] Tuesday, February 16, 2010 7:47:45 PM 
I actually think I heard bits and pieces of the double live cd that came out in the late 90's but I can't remember much about it. But I will check out the "Lionheart" cd.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:42:48 PM 
Hey thats cool Steve.You may not even like Saxon,but if I were to recomend an album to listen to would be 2004 "Lionheart". Saxon are a british heavy metal/rock band they play both british styled heavy metal like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden but they also have rock songs like Motorhead and AC/DC rolled into Saxon's style would be the best discribed sound I could come up with.  Again they may not be your thing really but listen to Lionheart though. Do not listen to the mid 1980's albums they have 4 of them from 1984 to 1988 that are utterly embarresing.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Steve Forrest from Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:29:16 PM)
[Steve Forrest] Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:29:16 PM 
I'm not even familiar with any of Saxon's music. I've been a metalhead for 30 years and I've always heard their name but never bought an album. I guess I need to try them out. I did hear The Meatmen do a cover of Freeway Mad recently. That song sounded good.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:58:50 PM 
Humm very interesting kiamat,yeah that wouldn't suprise me either as Biff is a very versitile dude,he likes many types of music.This doesn't phase me as a Saxon fan though,if Rob can preach the word of Jesus Christ through the Winter Songs album than what Biff is doing is rather settleing wouldn't one think? lol!!  Biff's vocal capabilities are not as outstanding as Rob Halford or Bruce Dickinson but he's got a very unique voice that doesn't sound average or boring,its very interesting and different yet still very rock and roll and british heavy metal.
 
Saxon are my 2nd favorite heavy metal band over Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden and the reason being is mainly because of the last 15 years and the last 7 albums by Saxon,if Sabbath or Maiden were releasing the best albums of thier career these last 15 years they may have been #2 but for me its Saxon and with good reason,thier  last 7albums speak for themselves in the realm of heavy metal.

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[kiamat] Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:15:12 PM 

According to Wikipedia, Biff Byford works as an administrator for the Amadeus Orchestra sometimes- being on wikipedia I can't be certain that's true, but I once sang as part of a choir that recorded a DVD with the Amadeus Orchestra, so if it is true I'm pretty chuffed about it!
I know it might sound a little far out for a metal singer, but the Amadeus is all about giving young musicians a chance to make it as professionals, so I wouldn't be surprised.

[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:50:37 PM 
Solid Ball Of Rock from Wacken 2001
[J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, February 15, 2010 1:29:34 PM 
Wheels Of Steel is a great record,there are 9 songs on it and the only one that sucks is the cheesey "Suzy Hold On" song! lol! That song is embarrasing and the other track that I never liked was "See The Light Shining" but the other 7 tracks are great Saxon songs,hey 2 out of 9 ain't that bad.  To me,Lionheart is thier best album and The Inner Sanctum is thier second best album but I can see why you like the Wheels Of Steel album.

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[kiamat] Monday, February 15, 2010 11:22:55 AM 
Its a tough call, but I think Wheels of Steel might be my favourite album. Every song is brilliant!
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