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I listened to the whole album today.And it's prety good.I wanna hear it again. |
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[Deep Freeze] Monday, June 23, 2008 6:44:15 PM | |
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By the by Justin, it is wonderful to see so much of you here today! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Justin Kenny from Monday, June 23, 2008 6:07:35 PM) |  | Justin Kenny wrote: | | Ahhh....DF...you used the word that had eluded me....RISK. And what heavy metal band could pull off a risk any better than Judas Priest!? Praise you for conjuring it...for that is exactly the factor that Judas Priest have utilized (however intentional or not) when it came to making ANY album that now graces their repertoire.
I remember vividly...the very banter that was tossed about back in 1986 when Priest released "Turbo." It's interesting to see just how many fans who couldn't stand the album upon first listen that now have a more relenting attitude and a better scope of understanding of what the album was trying to do all these years later. That's not to say there aren't still a contingent of fans that wish Priest never released "Turbo," but that RISK....that almighty leap of faith to take a step OFF the beaten path and try something new...something DIFFERENT...THAT my friends is the true mark of ANY artist...I don't care what art they create. Is it all still subject to personal opinion? Of course...and Judas Priest (like any other artist before them) have taken their share of "lumps" with an incredible degree of grace...forging ahead, consequences be damned; a factor (among a myriad others) of the very admiration and respect and devotion I still have to this band!! They exhibited and STILL deliver the very kind of art I myself can only DREAM about....through them (vicariously or not), I see and hear that which I could not bring forth.
GOD, I can't wait 'til I can buy "Nostradamus" for myself!!! |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Ah Justin! As usual, well thought out and well written. Very well done, my friend. I have mentioned the very same thing in previous posts. I was not expecting Painkiller II or British Steel Redux and so I am not the least bit disappointed.
This album is a departure. It was meant as such from the beginning and it succeeds. I cannot really recall a "concept" album that was not at least somewhat different from a band's usual effort. Sure, The Wall is clearly Pink Floyd and Operation Mindcrime is classic Queensryche, but Nostradamus was never going to be a typical Priest endeavor. Apart from the obvious attention to detail that one would expect from Judas Priest, this album takes the Band in a new direction. It is not the least bit "Spinal Tap", as has been suggested. It is a work of complex nature and a huge risk.
The fact is, I would have been very upset with a Screaming for Vegeance sequel. I truly expected something very different and that is what I got. Honestly, I expected grief from some as well. It is not surprising. One of the many reasons I love this Band is that they have guts. They are incredibly talented and I believe they could pull off just about anything, musically. This album is a winner for me. I do not even need all the fancy packaging and booklets and whatnot. It stands on its own and that works for me quite nicely, thank you. |  | Justin Kenny wrote: | | Well....speaking as one who has heard all of 3 tracks thus far from "NOSTRADAMUS," what I'm about to address here is really a response (and albeit, an impartial one) to some of the negative criticisms I've stumbled across between here and the HALFORD QUORUM.
I've been abundantly aware of the fact that Judas Priest are the type of band that strives to do something different with each and every new output of music they create. The only two albums they've made that share any real similarities (in a back-to-back sense) are "Screaming For Vengeance" and "Defenders Of The Faith." Even for having said that, the production of both albums are even different, and the latter album seems more ethereal somehow; "Rock Hard, Ride Free," and "The Sentinel" seem to have a different resonance and atmosphere.
There's no question about it folks....when presented with the idea of making a conceptualized piece about a REAL individual (won't find any cybernetic mythology ala "Painkiller," et; al), the undertaking had to have been massive in scope. Much has been written and exposed about Nostradamus' life and his works, and Judas Priest clearly had it in mind to pay homage to his LIFE and the very tragic undertones that he'd experienced. Some have argued that a conceptual album about some of the quatrains of his most celebrated and infamous of prophecies would've been more appropo....I'm prone to disagree with this. Judas Priest took the right path in telling about this man's life and times....his pains and his woes....from the time he was aware he had this 'gift,' to being exiled from France to avoid any further charges of heresy...the loss of his wife and child....I mean, talk about a challenging life!
When confronted with the issue that Priest dropped the ball musically/lyrically (as I've seen discussed at times)...I sometimes think that some of those who've stated such things really didn't think this effort through upon listening to it. Nostradamus, after all...lived in the 16th century. Metal music (quite obviously) didn't exist way back when...and in terms of tackling the issues of his life, Priest were clearly sensitive to what they learned, and thought long and hard as to how to convey those emotions both musically and lyrically. Whether or not you think the lyrics contained on "NOSTRADAMUS" are indicative of the genius exhibited on albums like "Sin After Sin" or "Stained Class" is frankly....irrelevant. This is clearly an album meant to be FELT....EXPERIENCED....as well as heard. Thematically, after all...we are dealing with the story of a real man!! Is it any wonder then that even Priest themselves have encouraged us to give this effort a FEW listens?? It surely WASN'T because they question the judgment of having gone through with this effort...nor is it because they doubt whether or not what they created was any good (yes...these summations have been brooded about by some fans...ffs), 'cuz let's face facts....if they had any problem with the final outcome...it STILL wouldn't have been released.
Sure it's different....it's SUPPOSED to be. I for one would never have found Judas Priest to be as consistently interesting as I've known them to be for the last 28 years if all they did was "British Steel" or "Screaming For Vengeance" over and over and over and over and over and over again!!! There are emotions and sweeping cross-sections of a man's psyche that's being talked about on this effort. Consider this much before making any real determined judgment. Edited at: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:07:00 PM |
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[alecs56] Monday, June 23, 2008 6:33:26 PM | |
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[Deep Freeze] Monday, June 23, 2008 6:18:00 PM | |
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HA!!!!!!!! I rank myself among those aforementioned fans that do not care for Turbo. Sadly, and perhaps a bit ashamedly, I simply do not like that album. There is a good song or two but, by and large, I just never got into it.
In any event, you are absolutely right about risk. A true artist marches to his own beat. At the same time, he knows what his fans want. With Priest, I believe that they are well aware of what the true fan wants in an album but I also believe that they have come to a point in their careers where it is not so much about mass marketing as it is expression. And risk.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Justin Kenny from Monday, June 23, 2008 6:07:35 PM) |  | Justin Kenny wrote: | | Ahhh....DF...you used the word that had eluded me....RISK. And what heavy metal band could pull off a risk any better than Judas Priest!? Praise you for conjuring it...for that is exactly the factor that Judas Priest have utilized (however intentional or not) when it came to making ANY album that now graces their repertoire.
I remember vividly...the very banter that was tossed about back in 1986 when Priest released "Turbo." It's interesting to see just how many fans who couldn't stand the album upon first listen that now have a more relenting attitude and a better scope of understanding of what the album was trying to do all these years later. That's not to say there aren't still a contingent of fans that wish Priest never released "Turbo," but that RISK....that almighty leap of faith to take a step OFF the beaten path and try something new...something DIFFERENT...THAT my friends is the true mark of ANY artist...I don't care what art they create. Is it all still subject to personal opinion? Of course...and Judas Priest (like any other artist before them) have taken their share of "lumps" with an incredible degree of grace...forging ahead, consequences be damned; a factor (among a myriad others) of the very admiration and respect and devotion I still have to this band!! They exhibited and STILL deliver the very kind of art I myself can only DREAM about....through them (vicariously or not), I see and hear that which I could not bring forth.
GOD, I can't wait 'til I can buy "Nostradamus" for myself!!! |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Ah Justin! As usual, well thought out and well written. Very well done, my friend. I have mentioned the very same thing in previous posts. I was not expecting Painkiller II or British Steel Redux and so I am not the least bit disappointed.
This album is a departure. It was meant as such from the beginning and it succeeds. I cannot really recall a "concept" album that was not at least somewhat different from a band's usual effort. Sure, The Wall is clearly Pink Floyd and Operation Mindcrime is classic Queensryche, but Nostradamus was never going to be a typical Priest endeavor. Apart from the obvious attention to detail that one would expect from Judas Priest, this album takes the Band in a new direction. It is not the least bit "Spinal Tap", as has been suggested. It is a work of complex nature and a huge risk.
The fact is, I would have been very upset with a Screaming for Vegeance sequel. I truly expected something very different and that is what I got. Honestly, I expected grief from some as well. It is not surprising. One of the many reasons I love this Band is that they have guts. They are incredibly talented and I believe they could pull off just about anything, musically. This album is a winner for me. I do not even need all the fancy packaging and booklets and whatnot. It stands on its own and that works for me quite nicely, thank you. |  | Justin Kenny wrote: | | Well....speaking as one who has heard all of 3 tracks thus far from "NOSTRADAMUS," what I'm about to address here is really a response (and albeit, an impartial one) to some of the negative criticisms I've stumbled across between here and the HALFORD QUORUM.
I've been abundantly aware of the fact that Judas Priest are the type of band that strives to do something different with each and every new output of music they create. The only two albums they've made that share any real similarities (in a back-to-back sense) are "Screaming For Vengeance" and "Defenders Of The Faith." Even for having said that, the production of both albums are even different, and the latter album seems more ethereal somehow; "Rock Hard, Ride Free," and "The Sentinel" seem to have a different resonance and atmosphere.
There's no question about it folks....when presented with the idea of making a conceptualized piece about a REAL individual (won't find any cybernetic mythology ala "Painkiller," et; al), the undertaking had to have been massive in scope. Much has been written and exposed about Nostradamus' life and his works, and Judas Priest clearly had it in mind to pay homage to his LIFE and the very tragic undertones that he'd experienced. Some have argued that a conceptual album about some of the quatrains of his most celebrated and infamous of prophecies would've been more appropo....I'm prone to disagree with this. Judas Priest took the right path in telling about this man's life and times....his pains and his woes....from the time he was aware he had this 'gift,' to being exiled from France to avoid any further charges of heresy...the loss of his wife and child....I mean, talk about a challenging life!
When confronted with the issue that Priest dropped the ball musically/lyrically (as I've seen discussed at times)...I sometimes think that some of those who've stated such things really didn't think this effort through upon listening to it. Nostradamus, after all...lived in the 16th century. Metal music (quite obviously) didn't exist way back when...and in terms of tackling the issues of his life, Priest were clearly sensitive to what they learned, and thought long and hard as to how to convey those emotions both musically and lyrically. Whether or not you think the lyrics contained on "NOSTRADAMUS" are indicative of the genius exhibited on albums like "Sin After Sin" or "Stained Class" is frankly....irrelevant. This is clearly an album meant to be FELT....EXPERIENCED....as well as heard. Thematically, after all...we are dealing with the story of a real man!! Is it any wonder then that even Priest themselves have encouraged us to give this effort a FEW listens?? It surely WASN'T because they question the judgment of having gone through with this effort...nor is it because they doubt whether or not what they created was any good (yes...these summations have been brooded about by some fans...ffs), 'cuz let's face facts....if they had any problem with the final outcome...it STILL wouldn't have been released.
Sure it's different....it's SUPPOSED to be. I for one would never have found Judas Priest to be as consistently interesting as I've known them to be for the last 28 years if all they did was "British Steel" or "Screaming For Vengeance" over and over and over and over and over and over again!!! There are emotions and sweeping cross-sections of a man's psyche that's being talked about on this effort. Consider this much before making any real determined judgment. Edited at: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:07:00 PM |
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[Justin Kenny] Monday, June 23, 2008 6:07:35 PM | |
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Ahhh....DF...you used the word that had eluded me....RISK. And what heavy metal band could pull off a risk any better than Judas Priest!? Praise you for conjuring it...for that is exactly the factor that Judas Priest have utilized (however intentional or not) when it came to making ANY album that now graces their repertoire.
I remember vividly...the very banter that was tossed about back in 1986 when Priest released "Turbo." It's interesting to see just how many fans who couldn't stand the album upon first listen that now have a more relenting attitude and a better scope of understanding of what the album was trying to do all these years later. That's not to say there aren't still a contingent of fans that wish Priest never released "Turbo," but that RISK....that almighty leap of faith to take a step OFF the beaten path and try something new...something DIFFERENT...THAT my friends is the true mark of ANY artist...I don't care what art they create. Is it all still subject to personal opinion? Of course...and Judas Priest (like any other artist before them) have taken their share of "lumps" with an incredible degree of grace...forging ahead, consequences be damned; a factor (among a myriad others) of the very admiration and respect and devotion I still have to this band!! They exhibited and STILL deliver the very kind of art I myself can only DREAM about....through them (vicariously or not), I see and hear that which I could not bring forth.
GOD, I can't wait 'til I can buy "Nostradamus" for myself!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, June 23, 2008 5:31:56 PM) |  | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Ah Justin! As usual, well thought out and well written. Very well done, my friend. I have mentioned the very same thing in previous posts. I was not expecting Painkiller II or British Steel Redux and so I am not the least bit disappointed.
This album is a departure. It was meant as such from the beginning and it succeeds. I cannot really recall a "concept" album that was not at least somewhat different from a band's usual effort. Sure, The Wall is clearly Pink Floyd and Operation Mindcrime is classic Queensryche, but Nostradamus was never going to be a typical Priest endeavor. Apart from the obvious attention to detail that one would expect from Judas Priest, this album takes the Band in a new direction. It is not the least bit "Spinal Tap", as has been suggested. It is a work of complex nature and a huge risk.
The fact is, I would have been very upset with a Screaming for Vegeance sequel. I truly expected something very different and that is what I got. Honestly, I expected grief from some as well. It is not surprising. One of the many reasons I love this Band is that they have guts. They are incredibly talented and I believe they could pull off just about anything, musically. This album is a winner for me. I do not even need all the fancy packaging and booklets and whatnot. It stands on its own and that works for me quite nicely, thank you. |  | Justin Kenny wrote: | | Well....speaking as one who has heard all of 3 tracks thus far from "NOSTRADAMUS," what I'm about to address here is really a response (and albeit, an impartial one) to some of the negative criticisms I've stumbled across between here and the HALFORD QUORUM.
I've been abundantly aware of the fact that Judas Priest are the type of band that strives to do something different with each and every new output of music they create. The only two albums they've made that share any real similarities (in a back-to-back sense) are "Screaming For Vengeance" and "Defenders Of The Faith." Even for having said that, the production of both albums are even different, and the latter album seems more ethereal somehow; "Rock Hard, Ride Free," and "The Sentinel" seem to have a different resonance and atmosphere.
There's no question about it folks....when presented with the idea of making a conceptualized piece about a REAL individual (won't find any cybernetic mythology ala "Painkiller," et; al), the undertaking had to have been massive in scope. Much has been written and exposed about Nostradamus' life and his works, and Judas Priest clearly had it in mind to pay homage to his LIFE and the very tragic undertones that he'd experienced. Some have argued that a conceptual album about some of the quatrains of his most celebrated and infamous of prophecies would've been more appropo....I'm prone to disagree with this. Judas Priest took the right path in telling about this man's life and times....his pains and his woes....from the time he was aware he had this 'gift,' to being exiled from France to avoid any further charges of heresy...the loss of his wife and child....I mean, talk about a challenging life!
When confronted with the issue that Priest dropped the ball musically/lyrically (as I've seen discussed at times)...I sometimes think that some of those who've stated such things really didn't think this effort through upon listening to it. Nostradamus, after all...lived in the 16th century. Metal music (quite obviously) didn't exist way back when...and in terms of tackling the issues of his life, Priest were clearly sensitive to what they learned, and thought long and hard as to how to convey those emotions both musically and lyrically. Whether or not you think the lyrics contained on "NOSTRADAMUS" are indicative of the genius exhibited on albums like "Sin After Sin" or "Stained Class" is frankly....irrelevant. This is clearly an album meant to be FELT....EXPERIENCED....as well as heard. Thematically, after all...we are dealing with the story of a real man!! Is it any wonder then that even Priest themselves have encouraged us to give this effort a FEW listens?? It surely WASN'T because they question the judgment of having gone through with this effort...nor is it because they doubt whether or not what they created was any good (yes...these summations have been brooded about by some fans...ffs), 'cuz let's face facts....if they had any problem with the final outcome...it STILL wouldn't have been released.
Sure it's different....it's SUPPOSED to be. I for one would never have found Judas Priest to be as consistently interesting as I've known them to be for the last 28 years if all they did was "British Steel" or "Screaming For Vengeance" over and over and over and over and over and over again!!! There are emotions and sweeping cross-sections of a man's psyche that's being talked about on this effort. Consider this much before making any real determined judgment. Edited at: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:07:00 PM |
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[Deep Freeze] Monday, June 23, 2008 5:31:56 PM | |
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Ah Justin! As usual, well thought out and well written. Very well done, my friend. I have mentioned the very same thing in previous posts. I was not expecting Painkiller II or British Steel Redux and so I am not the least bit disappointed.
This album is a departure. It was meant as such from the beginning and it succeeds. I cannot really recall a "concept" album that was not at least somewhat different from a band's usual effort. Sure, The Wall is clearly Pink Floyd and Operation Mindcrime is classic Queensryche, but Nostradamus was never going to be a typical Priest endeavor. Apart from the obvious attention to detail that one would expect from Judas Priest, this album takes the Band in a new direction. It is not the least bit "Spinal Tap", as has been suggested. It is a work of complex nature and a huge risk.
The fact is, I would have been very upset with a Screaming for Vegeance sequel. I truly expected something very different and that is what I got. Honestly, I expected grief from some as well. It is not surprising. One of the many reasons I love this Band is that they have guts. They are incredibly talented and I believe they could pull off just about anything, musically. This album is a winner for me. I do not even need all the fancy packaging and booklets and whatnot. It stands on its own and that works for me quite nicely, thank you. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Justin Kenny from Monday, June 23, 2008 11:58:42 AM) |  | Justin Kenny wrote: | | Well....speaking as one who has heard all of 3 tracks thus far from "NOSTRADAMUS," what I'm about to address here is really a response (and albeit, an impartial one) to some of the negative criticisms I've stumbled across between here and the HALFORD QUORUM.
I've been abundantly aware of the fact that Judas Priest are the type of band that strives to do something different with each and every new output of music they create. The only two albums they've made that share any real similarities (in a back-to-back sense) are "Screaming For Vengeance" and "Defenders Of The Faith." Even for having said that, the production of both albums are even different, and the latter album seems more ethereal somehow; "Rock Hard, Ride Free," and "The Sentinel" seem to have a different resonance and atmosphere.
There's no question about it folks....when presented with the idea of making a conceptualized piece about a REAL individual (won't find any cybernetic mythology ala "Painkiller," et; al), the undertaking had to have been massive in scope. Much has been written and exposed about Nostradamus' life and his works, and Judas Priest clearly had it in mind to pay homage to his LIFE and the very tragic undertones that he'd experienced. Some have argued that a conceptual album about some of the quatrains of his most celebrated and infamous of prophecies would've been more appropo....I'm prone to disagree with this. Judas Priest took the right path in telling about this man's life and times....his pains and his woes....from the time he was aware he had this 'gift,' to being exiled from France to avoid any further charges of heresy...the loss of his wife and child....I mean, talk about a challenging life!
When confronted with the issue that Priest dropped the ball musically/lyrically (as I've seen discussed at times)...I sometimes think that some of those who've stated such things really didn't think this effort through upon listening to it. Nostradamus, after all...lived in the 16th century. Metal music (quite obviously) didn't exist way back when...and in terms of tackling the issues of his life, Priest were clearly sensitive to what they learned, and thought long and hard as to how to convey those emotions both musically and lyrically. Whether or not you think the lyrics contained on "NOSTRADAMUS" are indicative of the genius exhibited on albums like "Sin After Sin" or "Stained Class" is frankly....irrelevant. This is clearly an album meant to be FELT....EXPERIENCED....as well as heard. Thematically, after all...we are dealing with the story of a real man!! Is it any wonder then that even Priest themselves have encouraged us to give this effort a FEW listens?? It surely WASN'T because they question the judgment of having gone through with this effort...nor is it because they doubt whether or not what they created was any good (yes...these summations have been brooded about by some fans...ffs), 'cuz let's face facts....if they had any problem with the final outcome...it STILL wouldn't have been released.
Sure it's different....it's SUPPOSED to be. I for one would never have found Judas Priest to be as consistently interesting as I've known them to be for the last 28 years if all they did was "British Steel" or "Screaming For Vengeance" over and over and over and over and over and over again!!! There are emotions and sweeping cross-sections of a man's psyche that's being talked about on this effort. Consider this much before making any real determined judgment. Edited at: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:07:00 PM |
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[miked0817] Monday, June 23, 2008 1:44:59 PM | |
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The new album is just as priest said if you read the inside book . It's and extention of priest and their years as a band and as a fan for years I can understand their side and the album is fantastic. |
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[Justin Kenny] Monday, June 23, 2008 11:58:42 AM | |
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Well....speaking as one who has heard all of 3 tracks thus far from "NOSTRADAMUS," what I'm about to address here is really a response (and albeit, an impartial one) to some of the negative criticisms I've stumbled across between here and the HALFORD QUORUM.
I've been abundantly aware of the fact that Judas Priest are the type of band that strives to do something different with each and every new output of music they create. The only two albums they've made that share any real similarities (in a back-to-back sense) are "Screaming For Vengeance" and "Defenders Of The Faith." Even for having said that, the production of both albums are even different, and the latter album seems more ethereal somehow; "Rock Hard, Ride Free," and "The Sentinel" seem to have a different resonance and atmosphere.
There's no question about it folks....when presented with the idea of making a conceptualized piece about a REAL individual (won't find any cybernetic mythology ala "Painkiller," et; al), the undertaking had to have been massive in scope. Much has been written and exposed about Nostradamus' life and his works, and Judas Priest clearly had it in mind to pay homage to his LIFE and the very tragic undertones that he'd experienced. Some have argued that a conceptual album about some of the quatrains of his most celebrated and infamous of prophecies would've been more appropo....I'm prone to disagree with this. Judas Priest took the right path in telling about this man's life and times....his pains and his woes....from the time he was aware he had this 'gift,' to being exiled from France to avoid any further charges of heresy...the loss of his wife and child....I mean, talk about a challenging life!
When confronted with the issue that Priest dropped the ball musically/lyrically (as I've seen discussed at times)...I sometimes think that some of those who've stated such things really didn't think this effort through upon listening to it. Nostradamus, after all...lived in the 16th century. Metal music (quite obviously) didn't exist way back when...and in terms of tackling the issues of his life, Priest were clearly sensitive to what they learned, and thought long and hard as to how to convey those emotions both musically and lyrically. Whether or not you think the lyrics contained on "NOSTRADAMUS" are indicative of the genius exhibited on albums like "Sin After Sin" or "Stained Class" is frankly....irrelevant. This is clearly an album meant to be FELT....EXPERIENCED....as well as heard. Thematically, after all...we are dealing with the story of a real man!! Is it any wonder then that even Priest themselves have encouraged us to give this effort a FEW listens?? It surely WASN'T because they question the judgment of having gone through with this effort...nor is it because they doubt whether or not what they created was any good (yes...these summations have been brooded about by some fans...ffs), 'cuz let's face facts....if they had any problem with the final outcome...it STILL wouldn't have been released.
Sure it's different....it's SUPPOSED to be. I for one would never have found Judas Priest to be as consistently interesting as I've known them to be for the last 28 years if all they did was "British Steel" or "Screaming For Vengeance" over and over and over and over and over and over again!!! There are emotions and sweeping cross-sections of a man's psyche that's being talked about on this effort. Consider this much before making any real determined judgment. Edited at: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:07:00 PM |
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[j_mags24] Monday, June 23, 2008 11:35:29 AM | |
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I was just thinking, I love Nostradamus, but wouldn't it have been more interesting if Priest did a concept album about the characters from their songs? A concept album tying together The Sentinel, The Ripper, The Painkiller, etc and creating new creatures. I know they kind of referenced them in songs from AOR, but a full on album about them may have been more interesting than one about Nostradamus's life...Just a thought. :D |
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[Great White] Monday, June 23, 2008 11:17:51 AM | |
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I know I'll probably be knocked down for putting the new CD down, but I have to voice my opinion. I was never really a big fan of concept albums and I approached this one with hesitation. It isn't bad, but it certainly isn't JP's best work, but it isn't they're worst, I must say they took a gamble making it. I only hope they don't take the same direction on the next CD. Still I can hardly wait for the tour to come 'round. |
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[JUDAS0922] Monday, June 23, 2008 8:14:38 AM | |
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GREAT ALBUM I AGREE JUST WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR |
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[mgdman] Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:52:46 PM | |
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This will be another recording that Priest has released that will define them as the GREATEST Metal Band ever! True it is different but that is what makes it great. Bands that put the same music out over and over are not around long or lose fans to "new" sounds from other bands. Take Motley Crue, great band but very predictable in what you will hear from them. This will be a once in a lifetime treat to see this whole CD performed live. Can't wait to hear a few on the Metal Masters tour! |
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[zudatron] Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:46:09 PM | |
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It's amazing. The more I listen the better it gets. I've probably heard the whole thing 10 times now. How much better will it get!?!? One of my favorite Priest albums already. What makes it extra special is how different it is. I want nothing more than to see them play the whole thing LIVE! |
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[tri x] Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:26:23 PM | |
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Its excellent,great range of songs,great packaging,love it. |
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[angelearl] Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:46:29 AM | |
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I loved it ! The music and lyrics show so much emotion. You really get a feel for what Nostradamus went through. I know this is not the JP everyone is used to, but I am glad that they ventured off the beaten path to do something like this. It really shows just how talented they truly are. |
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[Dan Marshall29116] Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:20:33 AM | |
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old fan....first post......Nostradamus is amazing. I am sure there will much discussion but when you cut through all the shit......It fawking rocks.
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[spapad] Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:43:08 AM | |
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I always thought thats what made Priest so great is with each new release you knew you would be taken in a different direction than the last. That is the sign of an exceptional band. They have never given us the same thing twice. I think Vengence and Defenders were the closest thing to twins, and they were released relatively close together. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:25:58 AM)
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well said. priest does not have one signature sound. thats why they are priest!!!
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I don't understand why so many people are comparing the new album to previous releases.
I'm sick of reading people moaning "it doesn't sound like Painkiller" or "it doesn't sound like AOR!"
If you want to listen to those albums then put them on and listen to them or alternatively, if you want to follow a band with the same sound album after album go and listen to Linkin Park or something!
Take the album on it's own merit, the songwriting is fantastic, the production is mint, the imagery and atmosphere are immense - it's like nothing they have attempted before and they have pulledit off in style. I don't think there are many 1hr 40min albums that I can listen to in one sitting without wanting to skip a single track and then at the end feel like I wanna go back to the beginning for another listen.
And as for the "it doesn't sound like Priest" thing - what exactly do priest sound like? Listen to Sin After Sin then Point of Entry then Turbo then Painkiller, do they really sound the same? I don't think so. It does sound like Priest because it is Priest in 2008. |
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[Head banger] Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:25:58 AM | |
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well said. priest does not have one signature sound. thats why they are priest!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spooner from Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:23:34 AM) |  | spooner wrote: | | I don't understand why so many people are comparing the new album to previous releases.
I'm sick of reading people moaning "it doesn't sound like Painkiller" or "it doesn't sound like AOR!"
If you want to listen to those albums then put them on and listen to them or alternatively, if you want to follow a band with the same sound album after album go and listen to Linkin Park or something!
Take the album on it's own merit, the songwriting is fantastic, the production is mint, the imagery and atmosphere are immense - it's like nothing they have attempted before and they have pulledit off in style. I don't think there are many 1hr 40min albums that I can listen to in one sitting without wanting to skip a single track and then at the end feel like I wanna go back to the beginning for another listen.
And as for the "it doesn't sound like Priest" thing - what exactly do priest sound like? Listen to Sin After Sin then Point of Entry then Turbo then Painkiller, do they really sound the same? I don't think so. It does sound like Priest because it is Priest in 2008. |
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[spooner] Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:23:34 AM | |
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I don't understand why so many people are comparing the new album to previous releases.
I'm sick of reading people moaning "it doesn't sound like Painkiller" or "it doesn't sound like AOR!"
If you want to listen to those albums then put them on and listen to them or alternatively, if you want to follow a band with the same sound album after album go and listen to Linkin Park or something!
Take the album on it's own merit, the songwriting is fantastic, the production is mint, the imagery and atmosphere are immense - it's like nothing they have attempted before and they have pulledit off in style. I don't think there are many 1hr 40min albums that I can listen to in one sitting without wanting to skip a single track and then at the end feel like I wanna go back to the beginning for another listen.
And as for the "it doesn't sound like Priest" thing - what exactly do priest sound like? Listen to Sin After Sin then Point of Entry then Turbo then Painkiller, do they really sound the same? I don't think so. It does sound like Priest because it is Priest in 2008. |
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[Sad_Wings86] Sunday, June 22, 2008 7:44:59 AM | |
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i just use only a word for nostradamus album :masterpiece. there is nothing that i disagree. |
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[feemac] Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:13:41 AM | |
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I really like Nostradamus, I think the guys have done a fantastic job. I can't wait to see Priest in Melbourne, hopefully we are treated to a few songs off the album. |
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[Glen De Carl] Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:43:36 PM | |
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I purchased Nostradamus here in Winnipeg Canada and thought it was an instant EPIC! The Priest delivered the goods and I think this works ranks as a classic record of theatrics, mellow drama, and pure heavy metal! BRAVO! see you in winnipeg at the end of july! |
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[Gibbo UK] Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:24:25 PM | |
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Nostradamus is a cracking album and a lot of hard work has been put into it.Rob,Glenn and KK are very gifted when it comes to writing and composing and this is album is a credit to all the band.
I have also started watching documentaries on the History channel about the great man himself.Looking forward to watching Priest do this full album live.
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[DemonCat] Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:55:44 PM | |
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I respect your opinion, but ONLY Judas Priest can determine what "Judas Priest" sounds like, and this is very much Judas Priest. So that part of your comment makes no sense. They have evolved...into a more intelligent, and mature sounding band IMO. I feel it's one of their best ever. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Galt from Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:50:09 PM) |  | Galt wrote: | | This cd is Priest's worst ever. I had high expectations after "Angel of Retribution", but this one didn't even come close. I like to hear bands evolve over the years, but this cd doesn't even sound like Priest. |
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[Galt] Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:50:09 PM | |
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This cd is Priest's worst ever. I had high expectations after "Angel of Retribution", but this one didn't even come close. I like to hear bands evolve over the years, but this cd doesn't even sound like Priest. |
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[paperflowers] Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:37:57 AM | |
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MG - I feel bad tossing mine but I really can't use it. The nearest show's 5 hours away in the middle of the workweek. Too bad they aren't redeemable for VEGAS! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:18:29 PM) |  | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Paper flowers.. I also go the free ticket promo.. and I cannot go so if anyone wants to try for a free general addmision ticket.. the have to log into
livenation.. It says trading this is prohibited..LOL I am allready have a ticket also.. It says trades of the code are illegal.. I didnt read the fine print.
So I will just throw mine away.....
I guess.. It also says it doesnt guarante a free ticket either.. so Who knows???????????? What that means..lol (Quoting Message by paperflowers from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:35:04 PM)
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Did anyone else get the free ticket in theirs? I can't go - I"m already traveling to the Vegas show. |
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[sdjohn] Friday, June 20, 2008 2:10:38 PM | |
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this cd kicks ass. i bought it on mon and it hasnt left my comp since. i was turned on to the mighty priest in 76 from my big bro,who came back from the army when i was 7. he had a couple of 8 tracks. i first bought unleashed on vinyl in gowanda,ny, a small town near buffalo,ny, in 1979, in the basement of a grocery store where you had to be 16 in order to buy these lp's. me and my other bro were hooked immediately. i collected all the lp's,picture discs,imports,tour shirts,and joined the fan club back in 81. damn i should have kept the 8 tracks. i first saw them on screaming for vengeance in 82, when my dad thought it was ok to see them. well even though i thought it was f*ed up when they broke up i do like ripper owens,fight and halford. i saw the reunion tour in toronto and have been waiting for them to return to some older JP music, which is nostradamus. it is like full circle when i hear this cd and my vinyl copy is getting stored away for the younger generation in my family. i like all types of metal and this new cd just proves what us older metal heads have known all the time. they never went away. here's a suggestion to newer fans of priest or those who think it is a disappointment, just listen to it a few times and let the songs grow on you. if you still dont like it then you are entitled to your opinion at least you gave it a chance. this is not for all metal heads. if you don't like metal/concept then i guess you can say a perfect circle or tool have no right to call themselves metal/concept. i think this cd stands up to any of the offerings today such as children of bodom,iced earth,or mastodon. halford and co. deserve respect and all that comes with it. thnks priest!!!!
a quote from p. daly:1997:refused, the shape of punk to come:
the musicians to be true to themselves have to expand in new directions. while it satisfies their obligations to their past and their influences. their past is given continued meaning through progression and building upon it. the satisfaction often causes a new level of friction between band and fan. it can be quite disappointing for a fan to get a bands new album and then find out that it is different in a way not approved of. i am sure that everyone can relate to this feeling to the first time they listened to stream of consciousness by cryptic slaughter or cold lake by celtic frost. differences are often smoothed over because there is a degree of change which is usually acceptable. once this difference has exceeded the acceptable limit then the fan can do one of two things, move with the band, or let the band move past them. regardless of what it amounts to,the band is trying new possibilities,not just for themselves but for all whom expect them to create. |
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[doodah] Friday, June 20, 2008 6:26:10 AM | |
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What an amazing record. Playing it non stop since it came out and it only gets better and better. Love the way the whole album flows from beginning to end, which makes it hard to stop half way through. Read one internet reveiw which basically said the Priest had bitten off more than they can chew. Bullshit a great band showing they have many strings to their bow. |
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[spapad] Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:42:20 PM | |
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Love the new album. Cant wait to go on another long road trip to spite the price of gas so I can listen to it completely through in the car! |
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[jackylone] Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:15:30 PM | |
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i have lisrened to and followed along with Nostradamus numerous times since monday, and i love this work! Priest has took an icredible challenge and have made a masterpiece! the story, the music and the lyrics are epic! Judas Priest have released the album of the year in my opinion. i am not the biggest fan of concept albums, but the mighty Priest have changed my opinion tremendously. i love it so much i have purchased all 3 versions. hats off guys, this spectacular! |
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[hellrazor67] Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:59:41 AM | |
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I listened to Nostradamus from beginning to end following along to the lyrics w/the booklet and I was absorbed into the story. I love how disc 1 builds up the story and leads up to the amazing last three "Conquest", "Lost Love" and "Persecution". Disc 2 tied everything up. When I first heard the "Nostradamus" single a month or so ago, I figured that's how the album would start and here it the second to last track on disc 2....and it makes sense!! Priest have out done themselves here and I'm thankful they've always NEVER played it safe. And from what I read this morning, this album is on it's way to selling over 50,000 units. PRIEST IS BACK!!! Edited at: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:00:39 PM |
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[j_mags24] Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:54:33 AM | |
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Hello all. First post :D
I got to say, I love Nostradamus. Is it my favorite Priest album? No...but it's definitely in my top five. Many of my friends (fellow 16 yr old metalheads) have said that its not heavy enough and not enough like Painkiller, DOTF, etc. They just don't get I hate to say...JP have always tried new things (Turbo anyone?) with mixed results, but I think Nostradamus is a great result of this. The mid-tempo, epic feel is awesome, but you always know it's Judas Priest, their style is always there. Rob's voice is all over the place, in a good way, and Glenn and KK sound as great as ever. All in all, I'm very pleased with Nostradamus, even if it took 2 years to hear. :P |
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[Head banger] Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:07:29 AM | |
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welcome back. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SCABBARDS REST from Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:56:11 PM) |  | SCABBARDS REST wrote: | | It's been awhile since I've posted. So far I love Nostradamus, but I haven't completely digested it yet! I'm tempted to say it is their BEST work ever, but I'll wait and hold judgement until I've fairly evaluated it. Went to Best Buy yesterday and bought the whole album package deal. Well worth the money IMO! I'm actually watching a special on Nostradamus with skeptics trying to disprove his predictions and make him to be a hoax. I think they're just jealous and want to make a name for themselves! Anyway, great to be back on the noticeboard with all my Prest friends!! We'll be making the trip from NC to Pittsburgh in August. Hope to see many of you there. |
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[NuX] Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:54:41 AM | |
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Hello every one,
I'm listennig Nostradamus, and I really thinck that this record is a kind of a turn... the album is quit rich and JP confirm again his evolution and there style !
Angel of retribution was a very good album, for my personnal opinion, and wrote a new page in JP history such as Painkiller.
With Nostradamus we keep the JP's style but a rank higher... this is not a comparison with the others albums, because there are all differents.
I love it !
sorry for my english, I'm french :) |
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[JT_Small_Deadly_Space] Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:18:35 AM | |
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I personally love the new album, i think its a very brave and bold move for Priest. Yet again they have managed to create something truly unique and orally fantastic. The tracks take a few listens to enjoy fully, but i think this is some of their best work, thinking outside the metal box is what i like. I love that opener, Prophecy is such an amazing track. I would say Prophecy, Persecution, Death, Pestilence and Plague are my personal favourites and i love Alone too. Well done Priest 10/10 yet again. |
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[zena77blue] Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:22:23 AM | |
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When you listen to this album you have to sit down and immerse yourself in it you can't put it on and do other things around the house. It is a full listening experience absolutely brilliant !!!!
If you are after a top ten single then this is not your album either it flows on all the way through and i myself got lost in the experience so pour yourself a glass of your favourite poison, turn up the stereo really fucken loud, strap yourself into your most comfortable seat and enjoy the ride !!!!
I give this album a 12/10 you say that's not possible then you havent experienced it yet !!! |
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[Tephra Rising] Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:10:19 PM | |
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Rick......bienvenue et bon anniversaire..... s'il vous plait, excusez mon francais qui est tres mal......je pense Judas Priest est le plus meilleur heavy metal band du monde!!!
Tephra Rising, un alpiniste des volcans en Central Oregon, Etats Unis.....
(phew.......sorry, en anglais from now on, but I tried!!!) Welcome anyway and enjoy Monsieur Nostredame. |
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[rick2008] Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:43:19 PM | |
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Hi!
Sorry for my bad english, i'm french canadian.I have buy the new album Nostradamus today..it is simply fabulous....congratulations Judas Priest band for this great work, this a wonderful gift for my birthday......All is perfect, I love it...one of the greatest album of Judas Priest.
Thank you!
I hope to see you in Quebec city, Canada
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[SCABBARDS REST] Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:56:11 PM | |
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It's been awhile since I've posted. So far I love Nostradamus, but I haven't completely digested it yet! I'm tempted to say it is their BEST work ever, but I'll wait and hold judgement until I've fairly evaluated it. Went to Best Buy yesterday and bought the whole album package deal. Well worth the money IMO! I'm actually watching a special on Nostradamus with skeptics trying to disprove his predictions and make him to be a hoax. I think they're just jealous and want to make a name for themselves! Anyway, great to be back on the noticeboard with all my Prest friends!! We'll be making the trip from NC to Pittsburgh in August. Hope to see many of you there. |
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[Moonfyre] Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:27:57 PM | |
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I absolutely love Revelations and Alone! Probably two of their best compositions. I love the additional instruments. The artist, Mark Wilkinson, is incredibly talented and created a great depiction of events. Halford's singing in a foreign language adds to the authentic feel and demonstrates his linguistic talents. Judas Priest, the synergy of Tipton, Downing and Halford, is immeasurable. |
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[jonese] Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:39:13 AM | |
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It's 2008 and the Priest is back!
I've listened to "Nostradamus" a couple of times now. Verdict so far: It's growing on me.
My guess is, if you liked "Lochness" from "Angel of Retribution", you'll like what Glenn, K.K., and the Rob "Metal God" Halford have put together here. "Lochness" got mixed reviews among my circle of Priest fans, but I thought it was cool. Many of the naysayers said stuff like, "They're doing a song about a silly monster," or (laced with sarcasm) "Wow, that's quite the grand song for a fictitious beast." Well, duh! Priest has always done songs like that: "The Ripper", "The Sentinel", "Starbreaker", "Nightcrawler", etc. Escapist metal full of broad-stroked imagery is nothing new for them. And it's what makes heavy metal music fun.
If you take it for what it is -- an over-the-top, Spinal Tap-like, epic metal work at its most grandiose -- "Nostradamus" is pretty damn good! It's like a Michael Bay movie, with Judas Priest orchestrating the soundtrack and some keyboard help from John Carpenter: sometimes silly, sometimes corny, but overall a loud and fun rollercoaster ride of big themes, killer guitars and arguably the best vocals in the business. And as a bonus, there are a couple of kickass Judas Priest songs in the mix!
Thanks, Priest! You guys know how to do B-I-G, grand metal! Can't wait to see you in St. Paul in August! |
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[Moonfyre] Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:55:34 AM | |
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They really are the best! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by KKsguitar from Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:04:53 PM)
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I got my ticket!!!!!!!! YAY!!! This is really cool. Judas Priest really is the best band ever! What a great thing to do for their fans. I don't think I would make the show if I had to buy a ticket. Cause the show I want to go to, is very far away from where I live. But now, I can go cause I do have a ticket. Even though it is lawn seats, it still is really better than not getting to go. I am so excited now, and just think Priest is the best!!!! Plus, Nostradamus is really great, I got the deluxe addition and I absolutely love it!!!!!!!
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[moreno] Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:09:01 AM | |
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It's perfect.It is something different,and atmosphere is mistical |
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[Tephra Rising] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:07:42 PM | |
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Yes, EPIC. That's the word that comes to mind here. This is indeed landmark stuff.
I have Disc 1 going right now. Really good stuff. (My deluxe package came in the mail around 11 this morning and it was all I could do to concentrate and finish work......I felt like a kid at Christmas).
I was at the store tonight and read "Revolver" magazine's rather neutral review of Nostradamus. Sounds like the reviewer was hoping for Painkiller Part III or Screaming for Vengeance Part IV or whatever. Truth is, I knew from what I read about this new release ahead of time that this wasn't going to be any of that. In fact I think it is everything they promised it would be. And ya know what? That's fine with me. Here we get a double helping of just how talented these musicians really are and get to see the depth of what they can deliver. Thanks Rob, KK, Glenn, Ian and Scott for thinking outside the heavy metal box......again!!! Different is good!!! (and for anyone who doesn't think this thing rocks, listen to "War," "Death," "Conquest," and the title track. I've been jamming to Priest for 27 years and this is as good or great as anything they've ever put out. Good, good stuff. |
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[KKsguitar] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:04:53 PM | |
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I got my ticket!!!!!!!! YAY!!! This is really cool. Judas Priest really is the best band ever! What a great thing to do for their fans. I don't think I would make the show if I had to buy a ticket. Cause the show I want to go to, is very far away from where I live. But now, I can go cause I do have a ticket. Even though it is lawn seats, it still is really better than not getting to go. I am so excited now, and just think Priest is the best!!!! Plus, Nostradamus is really great, I got the deluxe addition and I absolutely love it!!!!!!!
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[Moonfyre] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:44:31 PM | |
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If that does not work, or it still presents difficulty: Telephone Live Nation Tickets orders, 1-800-431-3462. |
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[Moonfyre] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:23:34 PM | |
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I have just purchased album today and am enjoying listening. It has just become available here in U.S. today, yesterday in U.K. I believe. An added feature (to my surprise) while supplies last with the purchase of Nostradamus is a free ticket to the Metal Masters Tour! The code is inside the cd jacket! Awesome! Fantastic listening!!
Here are the instructions guys for redeeming ticket. Go to Livenation.com. Plug in concert time and venue. Click on buy tickets. A window shall pop up prompting you to register with ticket club. Register with Live Nation Ticket Club. My Live Nation is different entity. You will be prompted to enter your address, shipping address and code. Pretty sweet deal! I got my additional ticket! They are the coolest band ever! What a wonderful surprise on the eve of the full Strawberry moon and summer solstice this week!
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[judasfreak666] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:45:59 PM | |
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the guitars are great k.k.&glenn kick ass again |
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[judasfreak666] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:44:14 PM | |
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where do you get the free ticket i cant find it on livenation help please |
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[Der Metzgermeister] Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:44:33 PM | |
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I am listenig for the fisrt time now. Its really difficult to describe this album. But i would say this : If this album is only a dream, dont wake me up, let me dream this awesome dream forever. |
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