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who was better?






   

[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 16, 2010 3:10:07 PM 
Yes I agree,Maiden has NOT released an album as good as AOR since 1984's Powerslave with Retribution being the better album of course but they haven't come close to AOR.  I reckon this next LP will be just as good if not better than Retribution putting an end to anybody's doubts about the band's capability to still crank out classic material.

They have heard it all the past 2 years with Nostradamus,they have heard the good with the bad and I'm sure they have read many times that people are saying the band lost it including me when I heard Nostradamus,I'm not exception but with a little help from Hellrider's optomistic words I've come around full circle and will bet money that this next album will kick some ass!!
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[Becks] Friday, April 16, 2010 3:04:58 PM 
Yeah JD, it surprises me even when some people say oh I don't really listen to AOR much, or they don't know it at all. If people gave it a listen they'd see how awesome it is! Loch Ness is boring, but Demonizer, Judas Rising, Hellrider, among others, are awesome as tracks. No way can AOR be compared to Brave New World or any other snooze worthy Maiden album of recent years. For one thing, the songs on AOR aren't 10 years long! LOL!
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 16, 2010 3:04:02 PM 
Wow Head Banger that is a huge statement about Angel Of Retribution. The 4 albums I would say that top it are Sad Wings Of Destiny,British Steel,Screaming For Vengeance and Painkiller and then I'd put AOR 5th place but AOR is my favorite JP album because of how new it is but yeah many people do not consider it a great Judas Priest LP,it just blows me away...."Wheels Of Fire" is a simple song but it just screams of old-school Judas Priest,a very underrated song as well as Deal With The Devil....also Eulogy  is utterly amazing even for a short track,it is classic.   [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, April 16, 2010 2:55:01 PM)
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[Head banger] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:55:01 PM 
on the album revolution fits beter.  I havent heard this ozzy POS, since I cant play it at work, but I am sure its all no good.  I would put AOR as the best album, even with Lochness on it.  there are a few that are all close to the best, but Like you I cant fathom why anyone would not like it.  then again I hate Nost, so who knows.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:50:44 PM 
Yeah the album title is "Scream".  The sound of this song sucks the big one. Head banger...Revolution definately is not the best track on AOR I agree but somehow I knew that the rest of AOR would be good before I heard it and it was except for the boring Lockness but I can't see the rest of Ozzy's album suddenly turning out like Blizzard Of Oz or Diary Of A Madman.

On that note,Angel Of Retribution may not be Judas Priest's best LP but its not thier worst either,it utterly amazes me how many people not just on this forum but outside this forum who do not like Retribution,they all compare it with recent boring Iron Maiden albums and to me thats unbelievable.

I swear if Angel Of Retribution were released in 1986 instead of Turbo,90% of these people who say they don't like it would be hailing it as a classic right along side of Defenders Of The Faith. I still say that Judas Rising,Demonizer and Hellrider are just as good as ANY JP track ever,name any 3 songs by JP and those 3 are just as good to me anyway. It doesn't matter though,Priest could release an album better than Painkiller and since its not released in the 80's 90% of people would hate it,thier loss. I really think that Angel Of Retribution is an underrated album,still say its the band's 5th best studio album of all time I even like it better than Stained Class,Hell Bent For Leather and Defenders Of The Faith but thats my opionion.
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[Head banger] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:50:04 PM 
yeah, one can only hope.  of course it probably doesnt matter.  odds of me buying it are slim and nill.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Friday, April 16, 2010 2:48:07 PM)
[jimmyjames] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:48:07 PM 
True, but we are talking about Ozzy Osbourne here. The man hasn't released anything decent since 1991.
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[Head banger] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:31:59 PM 

one can only hope.  however revolution was far from the strongest track on AOR....


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[jimmyjames] Friday, April 16, 2010 2:26:09 PM 
I know, it's pretty stupid. However the fact that they released it as a single means it's probably the best song on the album. If that's the case then this album is going to be an incredible achievement. I never would have believed that Ozzy could make an album worse than Black Rain, but if this song is anything to go by he may just have surpassed himself. He should have kept the title Soul Sucka, that would have been the icing on the shit flavoured cake.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 16, 2010 12:40:52 PM 
Oh my fuckin god that is fuckin "TERRIBLE" dude,fuckin A this retarded idiot doesn't learn when to stop.That song sucks like Ozzy sucks.I HATE Ozzy Ozbourne.
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[Becks] Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:28:58 PM 
Hmmmm, I don't hate it. But I don't really like it either. Sounds rather forgettable to me.
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[jimmyjames] Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:03:47 PM 
Here's Ozzys' new song Let Me Hear You Scream. Let the bashing begin.


 
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:00:22 AM 




So do ya want to buy a vowel you stupid fucking C#*@? LMMFAO


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[spapad] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:46:09 PM 
J.D. never even bothered with you. My you are paranoid.
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[xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:44:37 PM 
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[Brian_Evans] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:42:14 PM 
The mighty Black Sabbath fronted by Tony Martin and Children of the Sea. Awesome.

[priestaddict] Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:06:49 PM 
I go for Dio, no doubt. His voice, songs, guitars are too much better IMO. But I like Ozzy a lot
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:44:56 PM 
Here's some Dio fronted Black Sabbath along with some serious guitar work by to Tony Iommi.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:55:06 PM 
No....thats not true.Ozzy is a "sad" fucking retard.
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[Frosty] Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:50:36 PM 
Ozzy's a fuckin retard.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 15, 2010 10:15:46 PM 
Yeah,the "king of baffoons".
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[KirbyLance] Friday, January 15, 2010 6:33:05 PM 
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 15, 2010 5:12:44 PM 
LOL! Yeah thats about what that CD is good for!  What a joke Guido,Ozzy has "lost it" long ago but somehow he keeps getting worse!!!! lol!! "Soul Sucka"??? LOFL!!!!! Is Ozzy going to be on the front cover album with bling bling on and a backwards tunnel hat with baggy rap pants on?? lol!!!
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[guidogodoy] Friday, January 15, 2010 3:56:04 PM 
Hey! Ozzy doesn't suck. I got those free JP tickets...erm I mean Ozzfest when I bought Black Rain.
Now just where is that shiny drink coaster anyway?
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, January 15, 2010 3:29:32 PM 
I can't believe there are still Ozzy fans out there,this guy is fucking retarded,he couldn't write a decent album if Judas Priest handed him the tracks themselves! He hasn't put out anything worth a shit since 1988 No Rest For The Wicked 21 years ago and that Black Rain album is god awful terrible and whats this....his new album is going to be titled "Soul Sucka"?? Are you fuckin kidding me?? "Soul Sucka"?? As jimmy james said... that is something that Snoop Dog would of came up with for his rap album ect...."Soul Sucka"?? Give me a break. Ozzy "SUCKS" and "DIO RULZ".  Not even a question,this thread is a joke.Fuck Ozzy.
[carki] Friday, January 15, 2010 1:05:51 PM 
Both are great! Especially live. From Ozzy i like more the old Black Sabbath live records (from the 70ies), Dio everything, even when he performs old Ozzy songs.
[KirbyLance] Friday, January 15, 2010 11:37:01 AM 
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[nancy101] Friday, January 15, 2010 7:30:32 AM 
DIO
[hotlegs] Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:30:53 AM 
i  enjoy  ozzy  osborne  because  his  wife  sharon  is  on  

tuesday   nights american's  got  talent.  and  besides  

wrestling  best  tag  team  the  road  warriors   came  out

with  black  sabbath's iron  man  sung by  ozzy  osborne.
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by musicgirl from Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:02:16 AM)
[musicgirl] Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:02:16 AM 

Enjoy both of them but like more of the songs the Ozzy put out. I am sorry to hear the Dio has cancer and hope he pulls through. Rock on everybody.

[SDBinNY] Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:32:27 AM 
What does it matter? Because they were both in Sabbath, no one can enjoy both of their music? Rediculous. Both of them benefit from the ever revolving door of musicians they surround themselves with, so it isn't like either of them have a formula that allows their albums to sound like echoes of the past....

BTW.... Best wishes to RJD, recently diagnosed with early stages of stomach cancer...

And yes, I am a fan of both....
[ammedredd] Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:42:58 AM 
OZZY--1000 times over,realy don't like Dio,but I do like Rainbow? 
i've tried but just can't go for Dio!
[jtwa1] Friday, October 23, 2009 2:54:08 AM 
You should know his username is "Goliath29". I am sure he has read many other peoples correspondences as well, so watch out. If I were you all I would inform all of your friends in your contacts list as well.  That's probably his motivation for joining these kind of sites.
Edited at: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:54:48 AM
[jtwa1] Friday, October 23, 2009 1:37:17 AM 
You're right "goddess" but none the less I must "take my ball and go home". A member of this website, who I've not seen on this page I might add, sent me a private message containg information that could only have been obtained by someone who was reading my email corrospondence with personal friends of mine. I can't have that, and I assured him that I will retaliate in kind. That's no idle threat. I'm not the person to be messed with on computers. I must now change my email address on many of my accounts, which is going to be a major hassle, all because of one jerk. I usually don't get on sites like this but I thought it might be fun. It's my fault, I should have known better. I will not repeat this mistake. Take care everyone! Even you "jd diamond".
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:06:40 AM 
jtwa1, don't "take your ball and go home"! Just know that you can't change how people feel about music. In my personal opinion, music MUST be melodic to be music. Others don't want a melody they just want it heavy and loud. I don't bother to explain my reasons for liking Nostradamus because it won't change anyones mind about the album if they don't like it. To each his own.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:25:13 AM 


jtwa1 wrote:
   I didn't attack his "homeland", but he sure did mine and me personally.
Thats right,and I'll do it again beyoooootch! LOFL jtwa1 ! Is there another cival war brewin' jtwa1? j/k!! 

For christ's sake,have some fun! lol!

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[jtwa1] Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:35:48 AM 
Sorry. Did not intend to offend anyone. Your right "you people" was a poor choice of words. I reread my post and it did sound as though I was lumping everybody into one. My remarks were aimed at "jd diamond". I didn't attack his "homeland", but he sure did mine and me personally. He fired first and I just fired back.  The statement about taking my ball and going home was a joke. But I will leave you all alone. Good luck too everyone, except maybe "Diamond". JUST JOKING!!!!!! don't blow a vein.
[hellrider 31038] Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:03:03 AM 
yeah the PRIEST strayed to far away from metal to far for the majority of the songs on nostradamus i respect peoples feelings for the album.for myself it has been a very huge emotional rollar coaster ride at first did not like it  then started getting in to it then WTF am i listening to with a burning sensation i get when i hear easy rock.this album has taken up  a lot of valuble time priest could have recorded and reliesed 2 metal monsters in that time used for nostradamus  .well it has been a project they have apparently wanted to do for a while and i did support it(still have not bothered opening up my nostradamus LP still in shipping cardboard and CD with book but i did buy it.TIME FOR SOME TOTAL RUSH OF POWER JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEEETTTT    TTTTAAALLLLLLLL
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:25:55 PM 

Yes Hellrider,thats the entire point. I think that Judas Priest "stepped outside thier realm" and went a little "too far" away from "heavy metal". Yes Nostradamus is an excellent well thought professional album and its very musical and shows the community that they can write an album of melody and the art of capturing elements that make up such a diverse album....do I like it? NO!  LOL!

They really went "too far" and I think a lot of people are afraid to admit this,not the people that already claimed to have loved this album like Jackylone or Guido,they like the album simply because they "like it" and there is nothing wrong with that,but there are fans out there who are "forcing" this album to be good because they spent money on it or they are just not going to accept that they don't like it because it will be another 3 years before the next one so they "must" like it.

Nevertheless,I still think that the band got carried away in the studio and pushed it too far,as you said hellrider there is really not very much "power" in Nostradamus for a Judas Priest LP. Its all opinionated I know,and I'm doing nothing more than a fan of Nostradamus thats preaching how great the album is,but I've noticed that at least 85-90% of fans do not care for the album. Just an observation.


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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:17:09 PM 
                                  TIME TO BANG OUR HEADS AND FEEL SOME JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLL POWER 

CRANK IT
YA BABY
Edited at: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:18:29 PM
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:11:26 PM 
no offence of coarse but WHERE IS THE FIST RAISING HEAVY METAL POOOOOOWWWWWWEEEEEERRRRRRRR IN NOSTRADAMUS A VITAL ELEMENT IN METAL.WE ARE  DEFENDING THE METAL FAITH AND KEEPING IT ALIVE  
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[guidogodoy] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:48:16 PM 
..."it may well give you reason for a colon exam!" BWWWHAAAAHAAAAAAAA!!!! Too damn funny!!
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[Painkiller87] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:25:02 PM 
Oh and a final note: METAL!!!

[Painkiller87] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:21:19 PM 
So you're the one stirring everyone up. I usually don't say much but if you don't like what you hear or see, I don't like being blunt but, suck it up and just take it as is. Debating gets you no where this day and age. Believe me i know from too many experiences from school and one of my friends who wants to debate all the time. Besides you just made a fool of yourself in front of everyone making this response here when people gave you a sour note. About the music thing, I am a very open person myself. I LOVE Nostradamus but if anyone else doesn't like it for whatever reason just respect their opinion and be on your way. Don't confront them about it, it just leads to this. Well then that was my piece for now, have a pleasant day.
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[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:48:10 PM 

YEAH COOOMMMMMMMAAAAAANNNNNNDDDDDEEEEERERRRRRRRRRR WE WANT ALL THE ELEMENTS OF TRUE METAL. FIST RAISING,HEAD BANGING,RIP YOUR FACE OFF,VERY LOUD IN IN YOUR FACE,TOTAL RUSH OF POWER JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEETTT   TTTAAALLL.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I FEEL THE METAL POWER


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[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:04:29 PM 
jtwa1 wrote:  " Music is much more than pounding rhythms, loud guitars and screaming vocals"

I along with our forum member "the mighty hellrider 31038" do not want "MUSIC".....we want  "METAL"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:28:48 PM 
LOL! Yeah you tried to slip in the "isn't Seattle where the grunge originated from"? As if you "diddn't know already"() Please. That was every bit of an attempt to try and slag me because I'm from Seattle(where the grunge originated from)so I dished it back at you and it hit you in your pole puffer.(lol!) I'm not a rasist,or a bigget not even close,but you want to slag my homeland here,then you'll get it back full force,so with that said,why don't you take your corn cobb pipe,your chaw'o'tobacky,jug ' o ' shine and your lazy boar of a hog that sits at the foot of your red neck rockin' chair and get on down the road ya hillbilly!!! LMFAO!!Are you going to "CRY NOW"?

And your whinning "Nostradamus" bullshit is pathetic guy,I "HATE" the album,and there is NOTHING you can do about it. I think that Priest "made a mistake" with this direction and so does 90% of long time fans,the other 10% are happy with it. Deal with it.It is what it is.  Since you have an open mind and all,why don't you buy a Boy George Culture Club album and give it a listen....now wait,now wait....I couldn't fathem at listening to such an album myself(yuk) but you with this open mind...hummmm....."try going along for the ride jtwa1,you may enjoy it,open your mind a little and listen to something new and different,you might be suprised at what you'll like,I promise it won't hurt ?  LOFL!!!!!!!Checkmate! 


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[Head banger] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:55:02 PM 
well said
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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:37:38 PM 
Oh, I forgot one thing, HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:31:02 PM 
Trying to change someones opinion about music is pointless. We all like what we like, period. I'm not sure why you want to have a debate about it. Someone can talk to me about how awesome the Jugulator album is until they are blue in the face but it won't change how I FEEL when I listen to that album - I feel really angry after listening to it. It's not because Rob isn't there, it's the feeling of the album. I listen to Priest because I love them and they have always helped me get through the hard times in my life and this album doesn't do that for me. I can listen to that album over and over again and "open my mind" and it still won't change how it makes me FEEL. Having said that, I can take each song individually and I like them - they are some of the heaviest songs Priest has done. But as a whole, I don't like how I feel when I listen to it so I don't. I'm sure that others have similar feelings about other albums. Yes, music can grow on you.... I had a roommate in college that played Jimmy Buffett 24/7. It grew on me (like a fungus) but I do not choose to listen to it. However, when it does come on, I smile because I remember those awesome days in college.

I like the Nostradamus album along with many others here and J.D. and other people don't. So what? It doesn't make any of us more or less a fan of the ALMIGHTY PRIEST!

The thing I have always loved about the metalheads is that we do not judge one another - we are a very accepting group of people. I don't try to change other peoples minds about things like music because you either like it or you don't.

 
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