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[icecreamman] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:15:26 AM 
 Man, if Priest can put out an album that is anywhere close to Defenders or Painkiller I would buy 15 copies of it. Like you I am sure they are going for it, and I am sure they will shut up all that lack faith! Keep defending JD! We will get a great heavy metal album.
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[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:42:31 AM 
Very well said Freeze. This is very tricky,I guess the new line up is not "Priest" but a new chapter of the band that will NEVER top the magic of the old,but at this point I just don't care anymore. Since the day of the release of Nostradamus July 2008 pretty much 3 long years ago,I've been letdown with the album and "CRAVING" new metal from this band.

And although the new album will not top 6 of thier albums,it could top 7 other albums they have with K.K. so its all about the new album for me,if it kicks ass it might have it's own "magic" ...the band will be releasing it's 17th studio LP and it could very well rate in at # 7 or #8 ,no it will not top the elite Priest albums but this still may kick ass,it very well could be better than Angel Of Retribution and if that happens thats good enough for me.

There still is a part of me that is glad K.K. is out of the band because he was holding down Rob,Glenn and Ian from making another album,or an album that was not going to be a heavy metal masterpiece,that being said this makes me still crave a new album from this band,but I do see why your opinion is this way,I fully understand but I'm siding in with Hellrider with keeping the faith for this next album,it might shock us all who knows.

For me personally...it was way worse,much worse when "ROB" left the band. Sure this still sucks,but I think this new album will be better than the Ripper albums,Rob Glenn and Ian are still here,thats all that matters to me.Again,if the new album is terrible then that will be the day the music will die for me.

Rob Glenn and Ian I'm sure are aware of this and they may try to muster up one of the best albums of all time which could put this album up next to classics like Painkiller,ect....no not as good but it could be close...

Angel Of Retribution wasn't as good as Painkiller or Defenders,Screaming,British Steel or Sad Wings but it rates in at  #6 for me personally...this new album could rate in at #6 and knock Retribution down a notch to # 7 with the new album at #6....that would be one hell of an acomplishment,this is why I still have faith in this new album.


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[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM 
 Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it  will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome.  It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.

The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them.  Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change. 
[Becks] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:48:44 AM 
Great stuff JD, lets give the mighty Priest the chance to unleash a new metal beast on us all, I am sure they won't disappoint!

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[Daniela P] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:44:44 AM 
I'm not saying that they shouldn't do the tour. I'm saying they should have let us know what we're dealing with (or what  THEY are dealing with).
 
If I go to a restaurant where it says "sirloin steak" on the menu - I won't accept a hot dog as an acceptable substitute and be expected to pay the same as for a steak....

It's all good - K.K wants to quit, the band wants to continue, whatever the heck is going on, that's not the issue. The major problem is how they MARKETED this whole thing. THAT's what's bothering me.

I love Rob, Glenn, Ian, Scott - I'm not saying that they are less worth than K.K. But if I'm paying for a JUDAS PRIEST "farewell tour" - this is NOT it.

  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:52:44 AM)
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:40:59 AM 
You know what Spa....your post influence me big time. I take back what I said,I will see Judas Priest live without K.K. if they come to Seattle. Rob and Glenn are the song writters now,even though Ian doesn't write tracks,he will also be an influence for this new album and I'm sure will have "his say" in the matter. Lets give Rob,Glenn and Ian a chance to come up with a "Hellrider" (the forum member) in your face full on metal monster of an album and tour!!!

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[Becks] Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:52:44 AM 
Well think about it this way too - they will be contracturally (sp?) obligated to fulfill all these tour dates by the promoters - if they quit and cancelled all the dates, they would get in big trouble and possibly even sued.

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[Daniela P] Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:32:36 AM 
I guess I would need someone to set things straight.... cause all you people are talking about "saying goodbye to Priest" and seeing them "for the last time".
The way I see it - we get to do neither.

If I have interpreted the info given so far - this is the situation:

1. K.K left before Christmas
2. The band/management (who am I angry with, I don't even know since they as usual have chosen to be so....british about it!) start selling tickets for the EPITATH TOUR - say goodbye to the band blah blahhh - well knowing the truth, but conveniently "forgetting" to inform anyone about it.
3. Oh - by the way - a month before the tour begins - K.K quit six months ago. We forgot to tell you? Oh darn. But we have a GREAT new replacement! You know that guy from Lauren Harris' band?! No? No biggie, it will be SWELL.
4. No reason given for the departure. Just some blah about differences and more blah.
5. Scott lets us know that it might not be the last tour after all.

The dudes in KISS suddenly seem more straight-forward with all of THEIR bullshit-"farewell"-tours than this huge SCAM.

In other words... I've been buying tickets and flight tickets, hotels, rental cars and what not - for the past few months, because I wanted to see my favorite band in the world. All this time I've been played for a fool, tricked into buying tickets for what I thought would be my last chance to see Priest. But that ship has already sailed!

That chance was ON THEIR LAST TOUR, because K.K didn't even have the decency to say goodbye, he just split.
And the rest of them just kept their mouths shut so that it wouldn't affect ticket-sales.

I am so upset and I feel like I've been treated like an idiot, I've bought tickets under false pretenses and when I go to see Priest now, that's how it will feel. It's not right. This dishonesty is sickening and I really HOPE that I have misunderstood the whole situation and that there is some detail somewhere that I have missed.

Because the way it looks NOW - it's nothing but deception and it's sad if this is the way Judas Priest chooses to "leave the building"....

So - can somebody PLEASE tell me that I'm wrong?!
[spapad] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:22:37 AM 
Just noted I quoted myself which means it's time for bed. Night all.
[spapad] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:21:17 AM 
We'd love nothing more than you being there. We'll toast you. At least you'll know we are thinking of you.
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[Becks] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:16:24 AM 
I wish I could be there with all of you at a final show too, it's going to be a momentous time when we all see Priest on stage for the last time.

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[spapad] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:16:10 AM 
Amen  too.

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[spapad] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:12:40 AM 
I think I might actually carry a purse for the first time in my life, so I can pack tissue for all of us.  That would be landmark for me to actually possess a handbag? Is that what they call them?

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[guidogodoy] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:56:45 PM 
Amen

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[spapad] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:55:03 PM 
I hope to be right there with  you and Bev, Ron, and Guids when we all a say a goodbye. I will be crying! lol I know I will.

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[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:49:18 PM 
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.

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[spapad] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:20:02 PM 
Yeh, been shedding a few tears myself. But Priest beckons on the horizon, and I will be prepared to go see them with my daughter. She's going to love it, and she willl miss KK too, but we want to see them!   End of story.

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[icecreamman] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:16:28 PM 
I believe many of us will support Priest until the end. We may sound selfish, but Priest fans seem to be a loyal bunch. As for me, I know I will be there when all is said and done. I actually shed a tear today listening to Rock Hard Ride Free. I felt like a little girl, but hey, this is my favorite band. Without Priest I wouldn't be the musician I am now. I owe them my loyalty, hence their music has given my life much joy. I will be forever grateful for the good and the bad, because at least we still have the world's greatest heavy metal band. LONG LIVE THE METAL GODS.
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[spapad] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:01:42 PM 

Thanks Becks, you may be one of the few. I hope not.


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[Becks] Friday, April 22, 2011 8:54:33 PM 
Well said Spa!

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