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[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:01:25 PM
Get a mybook external drive and it has software that will automate most for you. However, while I OWN three, I only backup what I think is important enough to lose. My work files, my music, my Priest DVDs, photos. I still have the install discs for applications, Most I can just download again.
Simple thought. Should your system die tomorrow, what would you REALLY miss? I say, without question, that you should sit down and think about this eventuality (it WILL happen). Myself? I was once crushed when I lost all my progress in a video game. Sure, I could have installed the game again but the save files, no (Simpsons, if anyone cares! LOL?). Had I another copy of the save games, the game itself (massive files) were irrelevant as I still had the install cds. It was the data that was crucial. Back up your data, my friend. All I can say.
You even saw that I recentlly bought a webook (Acer Aspire One) because I travel so much. Losing my Macbook would be the end of the world to me as it is my main business machine. However, a $300 webbook, pfffff. Not so big a deal. 160GB harddrive and 6 hours battery life. I watch a lot of movies on it, IOW. Should it get stolen, someone better enjoy all the Lost in Space episodes I have on it! "Oh, the pain, the pain!" [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:46:24 PM)
spapad wrote:
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game?
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:46:24 PM
So to reinstall My windows from the biginning, I would have to have all the crap on this PC backed up down to the smallest irritating game? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:41:17 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time.
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:41:17 PM
For most people, that is usually the case (I qualify with "usually" as I am quite the hardcore user). The drive SHOULD outlive the board. However, as stated, I build machines all the time. My current is a monster. Always two harddrives (at least) set up in a RAID configuration and my latest gaming machine has a water-cooled heatsink. Just to say that I am not the typical "type a document" sort of person. I modded out my latest build with six fans. Put toggle switches in them to turn the fans off and on as needed (running games vs. email). Sounds like a small airplane taking off when I hit my fan-boosters! THAT is my "true" machine. Bleeding edge techology. I currently (and usually type) on my Macbook Pro. I have another machine upstairs that is just my multimedia server that beams stuff down to my television / stereo and yet another home build in my office at work. The way things go is if I upgrade any part of my main machine, I rotate down. The low-end always ends up in my office at work be it memory, hardrive, ram, motherboard.
To add to this, I service a lab of some 30 Macs. While I have seen motherboards and chips fry, it is rare. Harddrives, statistically, will go first. I have seen it at home, have seen it at work. Even overclocking a chip or memory won't kill them nowadays. Harddrives will fail. ALWAYS. Back up your crucial data, compadres. My office harddive is always the first to die as it is always the oldest.
Back to that defrag question, I have a good quote in hand: Maximum PC (do's and dont's):
"Myth: defragmenting your harddrive improves performance:
One of the most venerable suggestions for improving disk performance is to defragment your harddrive regularly. The science of defragging is sound: By putting all the bits of a file or application in sequential order on your drive, the drive should do less work [and spend less time] to access those files. Thus: faster performance. Well, in practice it's not really true. Today's hard drives are fast enought to make fragmentation largely irrelevant, and our benchmark tests have repeatedly borne this out: On moderately fragmented drives, defragmentation will offer nigligible to no performance increase. For seriously fragmented drives [think 40% or more], especially those runing XP or older OSes, defragmentation can help, but don't expect the world."
Word for word as I had what I already knew at hand. Take it or leave it as you will from someone who hasn't defragged a drive and works with a bunch of geeks who also haven't don so in a decade (or more). However, I HAVE installed a clean version of windows MANY a time. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08:41 PM)
spapad wrote:
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:32:35 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:30:05 PM)
a small mechanical device, as a knob or switch, esp. one whose name is not known or cannot be recalled; gadget: a row of widgets on the instrument panel.
a small mechanical device, as a knob or switch, esp. one whose name is not known or cannot be recalled; gadget: a row of widgets on the instrument panel.
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:26:55 PM
WIDGETS!!!! Bring me WIDGETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:24:16 PM
Yes, best keep that to yourself,........I wouldn't wanna get you started on the whirlybits! HA!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:19:53 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Of course! I also have a doohickey and a whatchamacallit......but I don't think we should discuss that in public. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spapad wrote:
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy!(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:19:53 PM
Of course! I also have a doohickey and a whatchamacallit......but I don't think we should discuss that in public. HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:12:55 PM)
spapad wrote:
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy!(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:12:55 PM
Of course DF, it works right along with the thing-a-majiggy
Deep Freeze wrote:
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:13:13 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:08:41 PM
Truthfully though,.........the disk will probably survive long after the computer itself becomes obsolete, that is the real sad part. I usually get about 5 years down the road with a still operable PC but it is inadequate for so much of the newer technologies that all there is to be done is keep what is worth keeping, go buy a new PC and complain about the amount of money I spent when I get home and I'm loving the speed and reliability of the new PC. Much like a car, only I usually hang on to a car for about 10 to 14 years, call me sentimental. HA!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:14:24 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:03:12 PM
Umm...'Scuse me....Little doo dad..Switch. Works whether on or off........
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM
It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:45:04 PM)
spapad wrote:
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:57:29 PM
LMAO!! Don't tell me there's a Guidopedia now! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by adrianaec_88 from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:51:47 PM)
adrianaec_88 wrote:
Hi everyone, Guido, Spa, Freeze anyone else online? I'd like comment but I have now idea what you're talking about LOL, anyway good question the one Spa did? Guidopedia has the answer.....
[adrianaec_88] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:51:47 PM
Hi everyone, Guido, Spa, Freeze anyone else online? I'd like comment but I have now idea what you're talking about LOL, anyway good question the one Spa did? Guidopedia has the answer.....
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:47:21 PM
Kindly direct all tech problem questions to our newly created "computer problems" thread (where they will be summarily ignored! HAAAA!).
As for working on your computer, you'd laugh if you saw me now. I have three in front of me from pseudo-friends (ie. colleagues) who all need rebuilds of one type or another. I gotta learn to start charging. Then again, I have been saying THAT since I was a kid! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:20 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
So, will you come over and work on MY computer for me?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, a question; I have "Cricket" wireless. I have a little doo-dad ( high tech word) that I plug into the side of this thing and I have internet access. The little doo-dad has a switch on it. I have noticed that, whether I turn on this switch or not, I have internet. So, what the heck is it for???????????
guidogodoy wrote:
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:45:04 PM
Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:53 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:53 PM
There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:20 PM
So, will you come over and work on MY computer for me?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, a question; I have "Cricket" wireless. I have a little doo-dad ( high tech word) that I plug into the side of this thing and I have internet access. The little doo-dad has a switch on it. I have noticed that, whether I turn on this switch or not, I have internet. So, what the heck is it for??????????? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36:13 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[_strat_] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:51 PM
That would be "Geek"... Not "Greek". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:26:08 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36:13 PM
Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Edited at: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:07 PM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:26:08 PM
Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM
..U continually amaze me....not listening tho..son says different..sorry... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM
Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon). [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:04:15 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:40:30 AM
you can generate electricity cleanly? hydro, nope, kills billions of trees. coal, oil, gas, well... nuclear.. the closest, except for the waste.
besides, find one electric car you can get here with [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:41 AM)
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
YOU HAVE HEARD OF ELECTRIC CARS?...OH,I FORGOT ALBERTA?,CLEAN ENERGY?,SORRY,MY BLUNDER!
Head banger wrote:
fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here?
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:41 AM
YOU HAVE HEARD OF ELECTRIC CARS?...OH,I FORGOT ALBERTA?,CLEAN ENERGY?,SORRY,MY BLUNDER! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:22:51 AM)
Head banger wrote:
fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here?
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:02 AM
alrighty then, done with stupid forms, now just got to load bottles.
later all
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:27:15 AM
carbon capture and storage, (CCS) was discussed extensivly between obama and harper on the last visit. think tectonics would be ok, given the distance to the nearest fault line.
I'm sure there is a way to extract without further damage to the environment. I"m sure someone is researching. I wonder if there is a way to redirect back into the earth, instead of into the atmosphere without accelerating tectonic activity? hm?
I'm gone for a while.
Have a good day all!
Head banger wrote:
damn must have deleted the whole recipit
from memory, have never done this, but it sounds good
take half cup of corn kernals
quarter cup each of diced red pepers and red onions
1 clove garlic
saute onions till soft, add corn and pepers, saute for 2 minutes
take 2 sheets of parchment paper, use own judgment for size, see directions
fold each sheet in half. in the center of the half sheet spoon half the corn mixture. place filet on top, season with Salt and white peper.
splash of white wine on top (probably before salt)
fold paper over, and seal the seams with multiple folds
bake at 350 for 15 minutes, serve sealed, and alow the guest to open for a different presentation. or open and replate for convenience. seal should be tight, and fish and vegies steam together.
if that fails, find a halibut recipit and substitute talapia
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:22:51 AM
fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:18:39 AM)
Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote:
AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:22:43 AM
Thanks.
I'm sure there is a way to extract without further damage to the environment. I"m sure someone is researching. I wonder if there is a way to redirect back into the earth, instead of into the atmosphere without accelerating tectonic activity? hm?
from memory, have never done this, but it sounds good
take half cup of corn kernals
quarter cup each of diced red pepers and red onions
1 clove garlic
saute onions till soft, add corn and pepers, saute for 2 minutes
take 2 sheets of parchment paper, use own judgment for size, see directions
fold each sheet in half. in the center of the half sheet spoon half the corn mixture. place filet on top, season with Salt and white peper.
splash of white wine on top (probably before salt)
fold paper over, and seal the seams with multiple folds
bake at 350 for 15 minutes, serve sealed, and alow the guest to open for a different presentation. or open and replate for convenience. seal should be tight, and fish and vegies steam together.
if that fails, find a halibut recipit and substitute talapia
[Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:18:39 AM
AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:52:28 AM)
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:16:31 AM
damn must have deleted the whole recipit
from memory, have never done this, but it sounds good
take half cup of corn kernals
quarter cup each of diced red pepers and red onions
1 clove garlic
saute onions till soft, add corn and pepers, saute for 2 minutes
take 2 sheets of parchment paper, use own judgment for size, see directions
fold each sheet in half. in the center of the half sheet spoon half the corn mixture. place filet on top, season with Salt and white peper.
splash of white wine on top (probably before salt)
fold paper over, and seal the seams with multiple folds
bake at 350 for 15 minutes, serve sealed, and alow the guest to open for a different presentation. or open and replate for convenience. seal should be tight, and fish and vegies steam together.
if that fails, find a halibut recipit and substitute talapia
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:13:00 AM
Fluffy whitefish ... get ahold of a good recipe, prolly a basic butter, herb, maybe wine, bath. Its been a while.
HB let me know what you find, K
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:10:01 AM
badminton? had forgoten its existance.
curling, nope, althought the canadian championships are in Calgary sometime soon. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:08:47 AM)
Bev wrote:
So you'll be watching curling, or badminton, then! Sounds like a fun afternoon.
I am a glutten. One of my favorite challenges as treasurer, with only basic book keeping knowledge and zero 990 tax experience, was to see how many reports I could file without asking for help. I'm into self torture if you hadn't noticed
Head banger wrote:
well, finish up these stupid tax forms. only a government could design such an unfriendly system, using acrobat no less. waiting for one person to phone me their social insurance number.
finish taking back the bottles. need to do beter on that. made 2 trips this week, brought in $100 so far. one more load should do it. and see if I can get the old pc working.
soy for pm, humm. well, we would save on flying the current pm back and forth all the time.
if I get time, perhaps watch the comunists talk about the real sport
Bev wrote:
That Soy! I'm waiting for the aliens to come back and reclaim him. That or his name will appear on the next Canadian PM ballot?! LOL
We were s'posed to have a car wash. Let Harley drive down to location, waited around a few minutes, watched a trucker move his trailer over the axles, came home and found an email that says car wash is cancelled. So, no plans.
You?
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:08:47 AM
So you'll be watching curling, or badminton, then! Sounds like a fun afternoon.
I am a glutten. One of my favorite challenges as treasurer, with only basic book keeping knowledge and zero 990 tax experience, was to see how many reports I could file without asking for help. I'm into self torture if you hadn't noticed [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:01:58 AM)
Head banger wrote:
well, finish up these stupid tax forms. only a government could design such an unfriendly system, using acrobat no less. waiting for one person to phone me their social insurance number.
finish taking back the bottles. need to do beter on that. made 2 trips this week, brought in $100 so far. one more load should do it. and see if I can get the old pc working.
soy for pm, humm. well, we would save on flying the current pm back and forth all the time.
if I get time, perhaps watch the comunists talk about the real sport
Bev wrote:
That Soy! I'm waiting for the aliens to come back and reclaim him. That or his name will appear on the next Canadian PM ballot?! LOL
We were s'posed to have a car wash. Let Harley drive down to location, waited around a few minutes, watched a trucker move his trailer over the axles, came home and found an email that says car wash is cancelled. So, no plans.
You?
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:08:14 AM
is a white fish. hang on got one. anyone know the cooking method en papilote? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:04:15 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Talapia? new word to me..where from?
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:04:15 AM
Talapia? new word to me..where from? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:02:26 AM)
Bev wrote:
Got any talapia recipes?
Necroticist wrote:
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:01:58 AM
well, finish up these stupid tax forms. only a government could design such an unfriendly system, using acrobat no less. waiting for one person to phone me their social insurance number.
finish taking back the bottles. need to do beter on that. made 2 trips this week, brought in $100 so far. one more load should do it. and see if I can get the old pc working.
soy for pm, humm. well, we would save on flying the current pm back and forth all the time.
if I get time, perhaps watch the comunists talk about the real sport [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:55:33 AM)
Bev wrote:
That Soy! I'm waiting for the aliens to come back and reclaim him. That or his name will appear on the next Canadian PM ballot?! LOL
We were s'posed to have a car wash. Let Harley drive down to location, waited around a few minutes, watched a trucker move his trailer over the axles, came home and found an email that says car wash is cancelled. So, no plans.
You?
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:57:43 AM
Wife has me chained to the kitchen for two days...lol...must admit, my cooking is better..
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:55:33 AM
That Soy! I'm waiting for the aliens to come back and reclaim him. That or his name will appear on the next Canadian PM ballot?! LOL
We were s'posed to have a car wash. Let Harley drive down to location, waited around a few minutes, watched a trucker move his trailer over the axles, came home and found an email that says car wash is cancelled. So, no plans.
You? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:52:28 AM)
Head banger wrote:
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:55:11 AM
Ya..we got seperated in the crowd...both wasted..lol - he's good....off at his ma's today... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:53:12 AM)
Bev wrote:
LOL ... was reading posts yesterday. Glad you and son had a good time on his bday (got a visual about serving cake to bikers, hysterical); also glad you found him safe and "sound asleep" ; )
Necroticist wrote:
Soz - that sounded bad...i apologise...hi HB and Bev..who i have not spoken to in ages..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:53:43 AM
Soz - that sounded bad...i apologise...hi HB and Bev..who i have not spoken to in ages..
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:53:36 AM
I know nada about Mac...working on 'Frankenputer' tho...is getting good...just need to install few more bits, maybe change case...
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:53:12 AM
LOL ... was reading posts yesterday. Glad you and son had a good time on his bday (got a visual about serving cake to bikers, hysterical); also glad you found him safe and "sound asleep" ; ) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:51:41 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Soz - that sounded bad...i apologise...hi HB and Bev..who i have not spoken to in ages..
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:52:28 AM
so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:49:05 AM)
Bev wrote:
Morning!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:51:41 AM
Soz - that sounded bad...i apologise...hi HB and Bev..who i have not spoken to in ages..
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:50:52 AM
Thanks, Necro. Yeah, people are gonna do what they believe they need to do. It's all good.
I am really thinking my next PC purchase will be a Mac. Expensive. But they are secure by default, and relatively easy to use. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:48:16 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Hey..was just keeping y'all on the 'up'...deal with it ur own way....
[Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:50:16 AM
all help or atempts welcome, just discussing. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:48:16 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Hey..was just keeping y'all on the 'up'...deal with it ur own way....
[Bev] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:49:05 AM
Morning!
[Necroticist] Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:48:16 AM
Hey..was just keeping y'all on the 'up'...deal with it ur own way....
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TAR SANDS! 
... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN! 