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[Daniela P] Monday, April 25, 2011 4:48:47 AM
Exactly, very well said.
If you're selling tickets for the FINAL tour of AC/DC, you'd expect Angus to be there. If you're selling tickets for the FINAL Iron Maiden tour, you would expect Steve Harris and Bruce Dickinson to be there. The list goes on - the point being that I have bought tickets for something that turns out to be something else than what was ADVERTISED.
Every single person who bought a ticket, should be given a refund and an apology. Not some stupid management-statement about what a "great show" it will be.
Don't get me wrong - the issue is not that K.K is leaving, it's not a catastrophy that there's a new dude playing guitar - I mean, for god's sake, we survived the Ripper-era!
And I don't think any less of Glenn, Rob, Ian and Scott as musicians or members of Judas Priest.
NONE OF THAT is "the problem". The problem is announcing K.K's departure a month before the European summer-tour, when it's too late to cancel flights, rental cars, hotels and concert tickets! MAYBE I wanted the opportunity to make up my own mind whether or not I wanted to see this "alternative Priest".
I wasn't given that chance. I feel like an idiot for having been PLAYED this way, tricked into buying tickets to something that is not what I expected to see.
You wouldn't be okay if you paid for a Mercedes and someone delivered a Fiat to you door either.
People can say whatever they want, I think this was dishonest - and it doesn't really matter if it's K.K's fault, or Judas Priest's fault or the management's fault. The fact remains - I've taken vacation days and spent a lot of money on something that is not what it was being advertised as.
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Monday, April 25, 2011 4:40:51 AM
Different angles indeed - I'm not so cynical as you obviously.
"...they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long." Oh please.
It doesn't strike you as more likely that they were waiting because it would have affected ticket sales if they dropped the bomb earlier? They "realised" that MAYBE they should say something - a month before the tour? Yeah.
Well then, I guess we're looking at this from different angles, no doubt.
I don't know who's to blame for this mess, and I wish I did. If I hadn't been a fan, I wouldn't have cared. Unfortunately - I DO care. And they can't go hiding behind a shitty management and their bad decisions, like a three-year-old hides behind mommy's skirt when shit hits the fan.
How can I go to a Priest-show now, feeling that they are genuine? I'm sorry, I just can't. At least not unless they tell us what really happened, cause I'm not buying the lame excuses given so far.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Daniela P] Monday, April 25, 2011 4:32:42 AM
"...they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long." Oh please.
It doesn't strike you as more likely that they were waiting because it would have affected ticket sales if they dropped the bomb earlier? They "realised" that MAYBE they should say something - a month before the tour? Yeah.
Well then, I guess we're looking at this from different angles, no doubt.
I don't know who's to blame for this mess, and I wish I did. If I hadn't been a fan, I wouldn't have cared. Unfortunately - I DO care. And they can't go hiding behind a shitty management and their bad decisions, like a three-year-old hides behind mommy's skirt when shit hits the fan.
How can I go to a Priest-show now, feeling that they are genuine? I'm sorry, I just can't. At least not unless they tell us what really happened, cause I'm not buying the lame excuses given so far.
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:24:43 PM
I agree, it's a band. I'm still going to as many shows as I can make it to. However, it is a shitty thing to do to sell tickets to people without telling them that KK has retired. They really shouldn't have booked dates without KK announcing his retirement first. I do think people have a right to be upset about that part of it. As far as KK leaving, it is his right to do so and Judas Priest has every right to continue on as a band. They have my full support - I will buy the new album and I will see them on tour as well. I have no doubt that Rob and Glenn have the ability to write an incredible album together!
Guys remember it is all done now! There is nothing you can do about it! It is times like these when we really see who loves Priest! I would spend hundreds of dollars to see Priest with or without my favorite guitarist! It was KK's playing that got me into guitar, and I am fully supportive of Judas Priest! Rob, Glenn, Ian, and Scott all need our support! So quit complaning, and get ready for an awesome show! Listen to Glenns solo albums, listen to Robs; I am sure they can pull off a album and tour together. Judas Priest is not a single person, it is an entity on its own. The Rolling Stones continued without Bill Wyman, why can't Priest countinue without KK Downing?
Point is:
Quit Bitchin'
spapad wrote:
Ouch, I think they waited, until the could not anymore. Putting on my Rosey glasses.
Head banger wrote:
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[icecreamman] Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:05:57 PM
Guys remember it is all done now! There is nothing you can do about it! It is times like these when we really see who loves Priest! I would spend hundreds of dollars to see Priest with or without my favorite guitarist! It was KK's playing that got me into guitar, and I am fully supportive of Judas Priest! Rob, Glenn, Ian, and Scott all need our support! So quit complaning, and get ready for an awesome show! Listen to Glenns solo albums, listen to Robs; I am sure they can pull off a album and tour together. Judas Priest is not a single person, it is an entity on its own. The Rolling Stones continued without Bill Wyman, why can't Priest countinue without KK Downing?
Ouch, I think they waited, until the could not anymore. Putting on my Rosey glasses.
Head banger wrote:
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:51:43 PM
Daniela P, I haven't had a lobotomy, but thank you for your concern..... to be quite honest with you, it was up to KK to announce this, not the rest of Priest. The rest of the band was giving him time to change his mind and until he announced it, they weren't going to. If you want to be pissed off at someone, then be pissed off at KK for not telling everyone back in December, if in fact, that is when he made up his mind. For all we know, he wanted to retire and was onboard with the farewell tour and THEN changed his mind. Rob said they knew before Christmas, but does that mean on December 7th when the tour was announced or later in December???? WE DON'T KNOW and most likely will not know unless someone eventually spills the beans. Judas Priest was waiting for KK to announce his leaving the band and they couldn't wait for him any longer. Notice how KK didn't even have anything to say until THE DAY AFTER Priest had no choice but to make the announcement? Having said all that, I would be seriously pissed off if I were you, spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on plane tickets, hotels and tickets to the shows only to find out much later that KK is not going to be there. Most of the people that you are yelling at are in the States and haven't bought any tickets yet. Those that have for all the shows already announced, I really can't say that I blame you for being pissed.
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:27:42 PM
Ouch, I think they waited, until the could not anymore. Putting on my Rosey glasses.
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Head banger] Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:12:28 PM
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:58:14 PM)
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:30:47 PM
Yeah that's true, it sucks for those who don't want to see Priest without KK but have already gotten tickets.
Yeah that sucks but at least you have that option before you purchase.
Becks wrote:
I can see how fans could be angry, I'm more disappointed than anything else. Cos if Priest make it to this part of the world, the one time I get to see them it'll be without KK but in saying that, I will still give 100% of my support to the other 4/5's of Judas Priest
jimmyjames wrote:
Hence the reason they should have waited until they knew what was going on before announcing anything, but if they did that they would have missed out on the cash that a summer tour in Europe would bring in. I would be mighty pissed off if I was a European fan. Fans in the U.S, at least, have the opportunity to decide if they want to attend or not after hearing the news.
Becks wrote:
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
jimmyjames wrote:
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:29:48 PM
Yeah that sucks but at least you have that option before you purchase. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:23:31 PM)
Becks wrote:
I can see how fans could be angry, I'm more disappointed than anything else. Cos if Priest make it to this part of the world, the one time I get to see them it'll be without KK but in saying that, I will still give 100% of my support to the other 4/5's of Judas Priest
jimmyjames wrote:
Hence the reason they should have waited until they knew what was going on before announcing anything, but if they did that they would have missed out on the cash that a summer tour in Europe would bring in. I would be mighty pissed off if I was a European fan. Fans in the U.S, at least, have the opportunity to decide if they want to attend or not after hearing the news.
Becks wrote:
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
jimmyjames wrote:
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:23:31 PM
I can see how fans could be angry, I'm more disappointed than anything else. Cos if Priest make it to this part of the world, the one time I get to see them it'll be without KK but in saying that, I will still give 100% of my support to the other 4/5's of Judas Priest
Hence the reason they should have waited until they knew what was going on before announcing anything, but if they did that they would have missed out on the cash that a summer tour in Europe would bring in. I would be mighty pissed off if I was a European fan. Fans in the U.S, at least, have the opportunity to decide if they want to attend or not after hearing the news.
Becks wrote:
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
jimmyjames wrote:
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:18:07 PM
Hence the reason they should have waited until they knew what was going on before announcing anything, but if they did that they would have missed out on the cash that a summer tour in Europe would bring in. I would be mighty pissed off if I was a European fan. Fans in the U.S, at least, have the opportunity to decide if they want to attend or not after hearing the news. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:11:27 PM)
Becks wrote:
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
jimmyjames wrote:
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:11:27 PM
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:08:07 PM
It does not matter. JP is still going to sound good, and still going to put on an excellent show. I could care less if certain people don't want to see it. They are just missing out on a good show.
The damage is done. The rest of Priest is still very VIABLE. This tour will be worth seeing.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:06:42 PM
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:58:14 PM)
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:58:14 PM
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:53:47 PM
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:48:39 PM)
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:50:40 PM
I gotta admit, I had a good time snooping through all the "KK is retiring! OMGZ!!!!11!" threads, and especially those "Here are MY thoughts about this" threads. Very entertaining.
See what you're missing out on, Daniela P? You wanna hear what people think goes on behind closed business doors? People who think they know what Glenn and Jayne are up to?? Look no further that the Metal Gods Quorum.
You wanna see some pissed off fans? The Q would be your best bet.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:48:39 PM
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:45:49 PM
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:38:52 PM)
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:44:25 PM
JJ, it's not good to comment on things we really don't know about.
I agree with Becks.
No sense in shitting all over this news.
Get real, this band is all approaching 60 and one already beyond. They tried to wait. Wanted to wait.
Management of Priest has been shit for years. We all know that about Curbishly management! Why they don't quit them is a mystery.
If I saw Jayne tomorrow I would punch her dead in the face!
But you wont deture me from MY FAVORITE BAND! NO MATTER HOW DEEP YOU MAKE THE BULL SHIT.
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
You wanna see some pissed off fans? The Q would be your best bet.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:41:12 PM
You wanna see some pissed off fans? The Q would be your best bet.
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:38:52 PM
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:36:00 PM
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:27:24 PM)
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:27:24 PM
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Daniela P] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:19:26 PM
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:29:02 PM
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:18:30 PM
Then give us a new pic of you Freeze, just to prove that minimalization of girth. lol
You do look like you dropped a few lbs. these days.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! GREAT pic, guids!! If you look closely, THAT pic of me is AWFUL ( as are so many of them). That was about 30 lbs ago!! Seriously! This "rock star" crap has been rather demanding on my girth.... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish we had a few shots from the the DTE CENTER!!!! BWAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
Heh....
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:12:55 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! GREAT pic, guids!! If you look closely, THAT pic of me is AWFUL ( as are so many of them). That was about 30 lbs ago!! Seriously! This "rock star" crap has been rather demanding on my girth.... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish we had a few shots from the the DTE CENTER!!!! BWAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:26:33 PM)
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:17:39 PM
I sure do remember!!! GREAT times..... great times! Even now, I always enjoy watching the drunks stumble down the hill, looking backwards as if someone pushed them or something! HAAAHAHAHA!
Had we lawn seats, I would have KICKED him down the hill at PINE KNOB!
Speaking of which, remember when they didn't have the bar dividing the lawn from pavillion? Back then, when you went down on the hill, you went DOWN!
[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:09:15 PM
"Man purse"
Had we lawn seats, I would have KICKED him down the hill at PINE KNOB!
Speaking of which, remember when they didn't have the bar dividing the lawn from pavillion? Back then, when you went down on the hill, you went DOWN!
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:32:10 PM
It will always be PINE KNOB damn it!!! I only wish you could have seen all the drunk people sliding down the muddy hill! I really hope you know that I was just teasing you - I just couldn't resist it. I never actually saw you with it, just heard the stories. I will miss you being there with us. We had a great time together in Detroit and I will never ever forget it! But, as you said, you will be there in spirit and we will have a toast in your honor as well as a toast to the greatest metal band of all time!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! That's HILARIOUS, Pam!! Yes, I will always remember the "man purse"! The GREAT, GREAT times we had in Detroit (at the DTE CENTER) HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!! It was awesome! I do not hold any "ill will" towards the band. I am far too old for that. I am saddened. But I know that we all will move on and some of you will continue to carry the Metal torch for the guys! I sincerely hope you have a wonderful time together! I am always with you in "spirit"! Even here! Take care, all!!!!
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:40:19 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! That's HILARIOUS, Pam!! Yes, I will always remember the "man purse"! The GREAT, GREAT times we had in Detroit (at the DTE CENTER) HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!! It was awesome! I do not hold any "ill will" towards the band. I am far too old for that. I am saddened. But I know that we all will move on and some of you will continue to carry the Metal torch for the guys! I sincerely hope you have a wonderful time together! I am always with you in "spirit"! Even here! Take care, all!!!!
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:34:14 PM
Yawning while playing in front of a large audience?? How unprofessional!
Seriously, I will never get that image out of my mind. He rarely looked into the audience, just down at his feet or over to the side, inbetween yawns that is. And I refuse to go see them headline ever again! I know that no one in Priest would ever do that, no matter how bad things were.
Head banger wrote:
better a new guy than a guy yawning thats for sure
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
joedraper wrote:
Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
joedraper wrote:
And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:29:08 PM
Seriously, I will never get that image out of my mind. He rarely looked into the audience, just down at his feet or over to the side, inbetween yawns that is. And I refuse to go see them headline ever again! I know that no one in Priest would ever do that, no matter how bad things were.
better a new guy than a guy yawning thats for sure
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
joedraper wrote:
Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
joedraper wrote:
And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[Head banger] Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:05:18 PM
better a new guy than a guy yawning thats for sure [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:54:59 PM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
joedraper wrote:
Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
joedraper wrote:
And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[joedraper] Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:02:35 PM
As hard as it will be to not see him there, you are so right. It would be worse to see him there knowing that he did not want to be there. If there is bad vibes within the band, it will flow over to their performance. I believe in his own way, he is thinking of us by walking away. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:54:59 PM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
joedraper wrote:
Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
joedraper wrote:
And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:54:59 PM
All I can think of is when we went to see Queensryche play a couple years ago and Eddie Jackson the bass player was standing in the back, bored out of his mind and YAWNING MANY times on stage! His heart was not in that performance and you could clearly see it! It dragged the audience down as you can imagine. It makes you feel like you aren't important to them, only their paycheck is important.
I'm not saying KK would behave that way. Far from it I'm sure, because he is a gentleman. But I think that those of us that know him and how he performs would definitely notice that things were "off". He is bowing out now instead of letting his resentment show on stage. That is the professional thing to do if you know that you can't keep it from showing and your heart is no longer in it. It definitely wasn't easy for KK. As I'm sure it isn't easy for Glenn, Rob, Ian or Scott. I'm not sure how the sequence of events happened. Maybe KK was on board for the tour but then Glenn and Rob wanted to do an album and he just didn't want to and that's when he decided to leave? We may never really know. But I wish KK all the best. I will give Faulkner a chance and I will give the new album a chance as well. Change isn't always a bad thing. I will miss KK dearly though and it will be hard to look at the left side of the stage and not see him there.
Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
joedraper wrote:
And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[joedraper] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:03:03 PM
Yep, and thing to bare in mind is (like Ripper) The new guy was not hanging around like a shark trying to oust KK out of the band. He just happened to be the guy that the band deemed fit enough to play with them. Faulkner is not the enemy here. There are no enemies. Just crappy circumstances that leaves no winners in this situation.
I for one would find it worse to watch a band where one of the dearest members was looking like an animal trapped in a cage... hang on aren't there some lyrics to that effect somewhere on the circut? (lol) But you know what I'm getting at. Rather let him walk away on his terms than go forward with a heavy heart. This can't be easy for KK to have to do. And I don't think it's something he chose. When you feel you cannot go on... You cannot go on.
Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
joedraper wrote:
And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:55:07 AM
I want as many of us as we can get together at one show, standing shoulder to shoulder, banging our heads and screaming until we have no voices left!I want to send them off with a BANG! I want them to know how loved they are and how much they have meant to us. At the end, I have no doubt most of us, if not all of us, will be crying. Too bad Freeze won't be there, he could bring his "man bag" and cram a couple boxes of tissue in it Sorry Freeze, I just HAD to. I do really wish you would change your mind and be there with us. No, it won't be the same, but that shouldn't make you forget all the fantastic memories you have of Priest. I hope you change your mind, we will save you a spot. But then again, maybe you will want to avoid what is most likely going to be a cryfest at the end.
I hope to be right there with you and Bev, Ron, and Guids when we all a say a goodbye. I will be crying! lol I know I will.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 23, 2011 11:46:47 AM
Yes Joe, I completely agree. Last time Priest "divorced", I took Priests side and was completely pissed off at Rob until he came back to his metal roots in Halford and then I could let it go. This time around, I'm not really taking sides, I'm just so sad about how all this happened. I will be there supporting Priest, because they have been my ALL TIME FAVORITE band since '82. Seeing someone in KK's place does not "ruin" the memory of Priest for me like it apparently does for others. Yes, it will be different and it will not be "Priest" for me either. But things change and people move on. I want to be there, hopefully with all my Priest friends in the US and say goodbye. I have my memories of KK that I will cherish forever. Now it's time to make some new memories. Just like in a marriage or relationship, you can't force someone to stay when they are so unhappy. I just wish it wasn't the case, but it is so we have to go on the best way that we can.
And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years.
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[icecreamman] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:44:34 AM
If Priest were to take what worked best on British Steel, Defenders of the Faith, and Painkiller; and worked off that we could have a great metal album. At least we know there will be a new album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:39:23 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes,I really think Rob and Glenn can come up with something excellent,but no it will not top 6 of thier LPs. I like the Hell Bent For Leather album for example,there are 4 tracks on the album I've never like after all these years : Take On The World,Burnin' Up,Before The Dawn and Evil Fantasies.
This being said in my opinion the new album could be better than Hell Bent For Leather,it won't be able to top the "song Hell Bent For Leather" but I can see it topping the album over all if the song writting quality is there. Before K.K. left and if he would of been on this next album then it wouldn't of bothered me for them to put one song like "Worth Fighting For" on the new album if done right,but now K.K. is gone I feel every track must be something heavy,either like All Guns Blazing or Bloodstone,or even Grinder or melodic like Between The Hammer & The Anvil and Hellrider the song.
Something like this so there is a mix of sounds,melody but heavy as hell like the Painkiller album has the heavy theme instead of anything "Nostradamus " related.
icecreamman wrote:
Man, if Priest can put out an album that is anywhere close to Defenders or Painkiller I would buy 15 copies of it. Like you I am sure they are going for it, and I am sure they will shut up all that lack faith! Keep defending JD! We will get a great heavy metal album.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Very well said Freeze. This is very tricky,I guess the new line up is not "Priest" but a new chapter of the band that will NEVER top the magic of the old,but at this point I just don't care anymore. Since the day of the release of Nostradamus July 2008 pretty much 3 long years ago,I've been letdown with the album and "CRAVING" new metal from this band.
And although the new album will not top 6 of thier albums,it could top 7 other albums they have with K.K. so its all about the new album for me,if it kicks ass it might have it's own "magic" ...the band will be releasing it's 17th studio LP and it could very well rate in at # 7 or #8 ,no it will not top the elite Priest albums but this still may kick ass,it very well could be better than Angel Of Retribution and if that happens thats good enough for me.
There still is a part of me that is glad K.K. is out of the band because he was holding down Rob,Glenn and Ian from making another album,or an album that was not going to be a heavy metal masterpiece,that being said this makes me still crave a new album from this band,but I do see why your opinion is this way,I fully understand but I'm siding in with Hellrider with keeping the faith for this next album,it might shock us all who knows.
For me personally...it was way worse,much worse when "ROB" left the band. Sure this still sucks,but I think this new album will be better than the Ripper albums,Rob Glenn and Ian are still here,thats all that matters to me.Again,if the new album is terrible then that will be the day the music will die for me.
Rob Glenn and Ian I'm sure are aware of this and they may try to muster up one of the best albums of all time which could put this album up next to classics like Painkiller,ect....no not as good but it could be close...
Angel Of Retribution wasn't as good as Painkiller or Defenders,Screaming,British Steel or Sad Wings but it rates in at #6 for me personally...this new album could rate in at #6 and knock Retribution down a notch to # 7 with the new album at #6....that would be one hell of an acomplishment,this is why I still have faith in this new album.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
Edited at: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:54:42 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:39:23 AM
Yes,I really think Rob and Glenn can come up with something excellent,but no it will not top 6 of thier LPs. I like the Hell Bent For Leather album for example,there are 4 tracks on the album I've never like after all these years : Take On The World,Burnin' Up,Before The Dawn and Evil Fantasies.
This being said in my opinion the new album could be better than Hell Bent For Leather,it won't be able to top the "song Hell Bent For Leather" but I can see it topping the album over all if the song writting quality is there. Before K.K. left and if he would of been on this next album then it wouldn't of bothered me for them to put one song like "Worth Fighting For" on the new album if done right,but now K.K. is gone I feel every track must be something heavy,either like All Guns Blazing or Bloodstone,or even Grinder or melodic like Between The Hammer & The Anvil and Hellrider the song.
Something like this so there is a mix of sounds,melody but heavy as hell like the Painkiller album has the heavy theme instead of anything "Nostradamus " related.
Man, if Priest can put out an album that is anywhere close to Defenders or Painkiller I would buy 15 copies of it. Like you I am sure they are going for it, and I am sure they will shut up all that lack faith! Keep defending JD! We will get a great heavy metal album.
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Very well said Freeze. This is very tricky,I guess the new line up is not "Priest" but a new chapter of the band that will NEVER top the magic of the old,but at this point I just don't care anymore. Since the day of the release of Nostradamus July 2008 pretty much 3 long years ago,I've been letdown with the album and "CRAVING" new metal from this band.
And although the new album will not top 6 of thier albums,it could top 7 other albums they have with K.K. so its all about the new album for me,if it kicks ass it might have it's own "magic" ...the band will be releasing it's 17th studio LP and it could very well rate in at # 7 or #8 ,no it will not top the elite Priest albums but this still may kick ass,it very well could be better than Angel Of Retribution and if that happens thats good enough for me.
There still is a part of me that is glad K.K. is out of the band because he was holding down Rob,Glenn and Ian from making another album,or an album that was not going to be a heavy metal masterpiece,that being said this makes me still crave a new album from this band,but I do see why your opinion is this way,I fully understand but I'm siding in with Hellrider with keeping the faith for this next album,it might shock us all who knows.
For me personally...it was way worse,much worse when "ROB" left the band. Sure this still sucks,but I think this new album will be better than the Ripper albums,Rob Glenn and Ian are still here,thats all that matters to me.Again,if the new album is terrible then that will be the day the music will die for me.
Rob Glenn and Ian I'm sure are aware of this and they may try to muster up one of the best albums of all time which could put this album up next to classics like Painkiller,ect....no not as good but it could be close...
Angel Of Retribution wasn't as good as Painkiller or Defenders,Screaming,British Steel or Sad Wings but it rates in at #6 for me personally...this new album could rate in at #6 and knock Retribution down a notch to # 7 with the new album at #6....that would be one hell of an acomplishment,this is why I still have faith in this new album.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
Edited at: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:54:42 AM
[joedraper] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:39:17 AM
And who suffers the most in the 'divorce' or the untimely 'death' Freeze? Why it's us the children (fan for those of you who don't understand my euphamisms lol)
We're the ones who will always hold out hope of mom and dad putting their differences aside and making the family unit whole again. Or we're standing by the cold, grey corpse refusing to let go of the stiff frozen hand and let what's done be done.
Instead of hating and being full of rage, I'm choosing to support the rest of the band who are still here for us, trying to hold us together. It's the least we can do for them. This can't be easy for them, left holding all the broken pieces trying frantically to put things back together again and hope the missing pieces can be hidden by their love for us. And the love for their band and what they have put their lives into for the last 40 odd years. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:24:26 AM
Hey.....you owe me a cover of the Ramones lol!! Dude you would totally rock a few Ramones tracks man!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[icecreamman] Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:15:26 AM
Man, if Priest can put out an album that is anywhere close to Defenders or Painkiller I would buy 15 copies of it. Like you I am sure they are going for it, and I am sure they will shut up all that lack faith! Keep defending JD! We will get a great heavy metal album. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:42:31 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Very well said Freeze. This is very tricky,I guess the new line up is not "Priest" but a new chapter of the band that will NEVER top the magic of the old,but at this point I just don't care anymore. Since the day of the release of Nostradamus July 2008 pretty much 3 long years ago,I've been letdown with the album and "CRAVING" new metal from this band.
And although the new album will not top 6 of thier albums,it could top 7 other albums they have with K.K. so its all about the new album for me,if it kicks ass it might have it's own "magic" ...the band will be releasing it's 17th studio LP and it could very well rate in at # 7 or #8 ,no it will not top the elite Priest albums but this still may kick ass,it very well could be better than Angel Of Retribution and if that happens thats good enough for me.
There still is a part of me that is glad K.K. is out of the band because he was holding down Rob,Glenn and Ian from making another album,or an album that was not going to be a heavy metal masterpiece,that being said this makes me still crave a new album from this band,but I do see why your opinion is this way,I fully understand but I'm siding in with Hellrider with keeping the faith for this next album,it might shock us all who knows.
For me personally...it was way worse,much worse when "ROB" left the band. Sure this still sucks,but I think this new album will be better than the Ripper albums,Rob Glenn and Ian are still here,thats all that matters to me.Again,if the new album is terrible then that will be the day the music will die for me.
Rob Glenn and Ian I'm sure are aware of this and they may try to muster up one of the best albums of all time which could put this album up next to classics like Painkiller,ect....no not as good but it could be close...
Angel Of Retribution wasn't as good as Painkiller or Defenders,Screaming,British Steel or Sad Wings but it rates in at #6 for me personally...this new album could rate in at #6 and knock Retribution down a notch to # 7 with the new album at #6....that would be one hell of an acomplishment,this is why I still have faith in this new album.
(Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
Edited at: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:54:42 AM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:42:31 AM
Very well said Freeze. This is very tricky,I guess the new line up is not "Priest" but a new chapter of the band that will NEVER top the magic of the old,but at this point I just don't care anymore. Since the day of the release of Nostradamus July 2008 pretty much 3 long years ago,I've been letdown with the album and "CRAVING" new metal from this band.
And although the new album will not top 6 of thier albums,it could top 7 other albums they have with K.K. so its all about the new album for me,if it kicks ass it might have it's own "magic" ...the band will be releasing it's 17th studio LP and it could very well rate in at # 7 or #8 ,no it will not top the elite Priest albums but this still may kick ass,it very well could be better than Angel Of Retribution and if that happens thats good enough for me.
There still is a part of me that is glad K.K. is out of the band because he was holding down Rob,Glenn and Ian from making another album,or an album that was not going to be a heavy metal masterpiece,that being said this makes me still crave a new album from this band,but I do see why your opinion is this way,I fully understand but I'm siding in with Hellrider with keeping the faith for this next album,it might shock us all who knows.
For me personally...it was way worse,much worse when "ROB" left the band. Sure this still sucks,but I think this new album will be better than the Ripper albums,Rob Glenn and Ian are still here,thats all that matters to me.Again,if the new album is terrible then that will be the day the music will die for me.
Rob Glenn and Ian I'm sure are aware of this and they may try to muster up one of the best albums of all time which could put this album up next to classics like Painkiller,ect....no not as good but it could be close...
Angel Of Retribution wasn't as good as Painkiller or Defenders,Screaming,British Steel or Sad Wings but it rates in at #6 for me personally...this new album could rate in at #6 and knock Retribution down a notch to # 7 with the new album at #6....that would be one hell of an acomplishment,this is why I still have faith in this new album.
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
Edited at: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:54:42 AM
[Deep Freeze] Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:48:19 AM
Its good to see such great discourse regarding the band and all that has occurred. I used a different anaolgy when talking to MM about it earlier. For ME, it's like watching a loved one go through divorce. Of course you support them but it still hurts and it will never be "the same". I will always cherish the memories I have of the band and all the great shows. The thing is, for me, it will not be PRIEST. It will be the remaining members playing as Priest. They will be awesome. It will be epic. They never fail to deliver. All of this is true.
The thing is, I want to remember them as they were way back when I first saw them in the 70's. When I first was drawn to their magic. I want to remember them as they were on that summer's day in Detroit just a couple years ago, when I was only feet from them. Without KK, it will not be the same and, for me, that says it all. I am truly glad that so many of you will go and will say your "good byes", or whatever you wish to call it, in your own ways. That is a good thing. For me, it is over. I will always love the band and I support whatever they do, just as I would any loved one. I still love Judas Priest. That doesn't change.
[Becks] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:48:44 AM
Great stuff JD, lets give the mighty Priest the chance to unleash a new metal beast on us all, I am sure they won't disappoint!
You know what Spa....your post influence me big time. I take back what I said,I will see Judas Priest live without K.K. if they come to Seattle. Rob and Glenn are the song writters now,even though Ian doesn't write tracks,he will also be an influence for this new album and I'm sure will have "his say" in the matter. Lets give Rob,Glenn and Ian a chance to come up with a "Hellrider" (the forum member) in your face full on metal monster of an album and tour!!!
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[Daniela P] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:44:44 AM
I'm not saying that they shouldn't do the tour. I'm saying they should have let us know what we're dealing with (or what THEY are dealing with).
If I go to a restaurant where it says "sirloin steak" on the menu - I won't accept a hot dog as an acceptable substitute and be expected to pay the same as for a steak....
It's all good - K.K wants to quit, the band wants to continue, whatever the heck is going on, that's not the issue. The major problem is how they MARKETED this whole thing. THAT's what's bothering me.
I love Rob, Glenn, Ian, Scott - I'm not saying that they are less worth than K.K. But if I'm paying for a JUDAS PRIEST "farewell tour" - this is NOT it.
Well think about it this way too - they will be contracturally (sp?) obligated to fulfill all these tour dates by the promoters - if they quit and cancelled all the dates, they would get in big trouble and possibly even sued.
Daniela P wrote:
I guess I would need someone to set things straight.... cause all you people are talking about "saying goodbye to Priest" and seeing them "for the last time".
The way I see it - we get to do neither.
If I have interpreted the info given so far - this is the situation:
1. K.K left before Christmas
2. The band/management (who am I angry with, I don't even know since they as usual have chosen to be so....british about it!) start selling tickets for the EPITATH TOUR - say goodbye to the band blah blahhh - well knowing the truth, but conveniently "forgetting" to inform anyone about it.
3. Oh - by the way - a month before the tour begins - K.K quit six months ago. We forgot to tell you? Oh darn. But we have a GREAT new replacement! You know that guy from Lauren Harris' band?! No? No biggie, it will be SWELL.
4. No reason given for the departure. Just some blah about differences and more blah.
5. Scott lets us know that it might not be the last tour after all.
The dudes in KISS suddenly seem more straight-forward with all of THEIR bullshit-"farewell"-tours than this huge SCAM.
In other words... I've been buying tickets and flight tickets, hotels, rental cars and what not - for the past few months, because I wanted to see my favorite band in the world. All this time I've been played for a fool, tricked into buying tickets for what I thought would be my last chance to see Priest. But that ship has already sailed!
That chance was ON THEIR LAST TOUR, because K.K didn't even have the decency to say goodbye, he just split.
And the rest of them just kept their mouths shut so that it wouldn't affect ticket-sales.
I am so upset and I feel like I've been treated like an idiot, I've bought tickets under false pretenses and when I go to see Priest now, that's how it will feel. It's not right. This dishonesty is sickening and I really HOPE that I have misunderstood the whole situation and that there is some detail somewhere that I have missed.
Because the way it looks NOW - it's nothing but deception and it's sad if this is the way Judas Priest chooses to "leave the building"....
So - can somebody PLEASE tell me that I'm wrong?!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, April 23, 2011 3:40:59 AM
You know what Spa....your post influence me big time. I take back what I said,I will see Judas Priest live without K.K. if they come to Seattle. Rob and Glenn are the song writters now,even though Ian doesn't write tracks,he will also be an influence for this new album and I'm sure will have "his say" in the matter. Lets give Rob,Glenn and Ian a chance to come up with a "Hellrider" (the forum member) in your face full on metal monster of an album and tour!!!
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[Becks] Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:52:44 AM
Well think about it this way too - they will be contracturally (sp?) obligated to fulfill all these tour dates by the promoters - if they quit and cancelled all the dates, they would get in big trouble and possibly even sued.
I guess I would need someone to set things straight.... cause all you people are talking about "saying goodbye to Priest" and seeing them "for the last time".
The way I see it - we get to do neither.
If I have interpreted the info given so far - this is the situation:
1. K.K left before Christmas
2. The band/management (who am I angry with, I don't even know since they as usual have chosen to be so....british about it!) start selling tickets for the EPITATH TOUR - say goodbye to the band blah blahhh - well knowing the truth, but conveniently "forgetting" to inform anyone about it.
3. Oh - by the way - a month before the tour begins - K.K quit six months ago. We forgot to tell you? Oh darn. But we have a GREAT new replacement! You know that guy from Lauren Harris' band?! No? No biggie, it will be SWELL.
4. No reason given for the departure. Just some blah about differences and more blah.
5. Scott lets us know that it might not be the last tour after all.
The dudes in KISS suddenly seem more straight-forward with all of THEIR bullshit-"farewell"-tours than this huge SCAM.
In other words... I've been buying tickets and flight tickets, hotels, rental cars and what not - for the past few months, because I wanted to see my favorite band in the world. All this time I've been played for a fool, tricked into buying tickets for what I thought would be my last chance to see Priest. But that ship has already sailed!
That chance was ON THEIR LAST TOUR, because K.K didn't even have the decency to say goodbye, he just split.
And the rest of them just kept their mouths shut so that it wouldn't affect ticket-sales.
I am so upset and I feel like I've been treated like an idiot, I've bought tickets under false pretenses and when I go to see Priest now, that's how it will feel. It's not right. This dishonesty is sickening and I really HOPE that I have misunderstood the whole situation and that there is some detail somewhere that I have missed.
Because the way it looks NOW - it's nothing but deception and it's sad if this is the way Judas Priest chooses to "leave the building"....
So - can somebody PLEASE tell me that I'm wrong?!
[Daniela P] Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:32:36 AM
I guess I would need someone to set things straight.... cause all you people are talking about "saying goodbye to Priest" and seeing them "for the last time".
The way I see it - we get to do neither.
If I have interpreted the info given so far - this is the situation:
1. K.K left before Christmas
2. The band/management (who am I angry with, I don't even know since they as usual have chosen to be so....british about it!) start selling tickets for the EPITATH TOUR - say goodbye to the band blah blahhh - well knowing the truth, but conveniently "forgetting" to inform anyone about it.
3. Oh - by the way - a month before the tour begins - K.K quit six months ago. We forgot to tell you? Oh darn. But we have a GREAT new replacement! You know that guy from Lauren Harris' band?! No? No biggie, it will be SWELL.
4. No reason given for the departure. Just some blah about differences and more blah.
5. Scott lets us know that it might not be the last tour after all.
The dudes in KISS suddenly seem more straight-forward with all of THEIR bullshit-"farewell"-tours than this huge SCAM.
In other words... I've been buying tickets and flight tickets, hotels, rental cars and what not - for the past few months, because I wanted to see my favorite band in the world. All this time I've been played for a fool, tricked into buying tickets for what I thought would be my last chance to see Priest. But that ship has already sailed!
That chance was ON THEIR LAST TOUR, because K.K didn't even have the decency to say goodbye, he just split.
And the rest of them just kept their mouths shut so that it wouldn't affect ticket-sales.
I am so upset and I feel like I've been treated like an idiot, I've bought tickets under false pretenses and when I go to see Priest now, that's how it will feel. It's not right. This dishonesty is sickening and I really HOPE that I have misunderstood the whole situation and that there is some detail somewhere that I have missed.
Because the way it looks NOW - it's nothing but deception and it's sad if this is the way Judas Priest chooses to "leave the building"....
So - can somebody PLEASE tell me that I'm wrong?!
[spapad] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:22:37 AM
Just noted I quoted myself which means it's time for bed. Night all.
[spapad] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:21:17 AM
We'd love nothing more than you being there. We'll toast you. At least you'll know we are thinking of you. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:16:24 AM)
Becks wrote:
I wish I could be there with all of you at a final show too, it's going to be a momentous time when we all see Priest on stage for the last time.
spapad wrote:
I hope to be right there with you and Bev, Ron, and Guids when we all a say a goodbye. I will be crying! lol I know I will.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
Edited at: Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:24:31 AM
[Becks] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:16:24 AM
I wish I could be there with all of you at a final show too, it's going to be a momentous time when we all see Priest on stage for the last time.
I hope to be right there with you and Bev, Ron, and Guids when we all a say a goodbye. I will be crying! lol I know I will.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
I think I might actually carry a purse for the first time in my life, so I can pack tissue for all of us. That would be landmark for me to actually possess a handbag? Is that what they call them?
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[spapad] Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:12:40 AM
I think I might actually carry a purse for the first time in my life, so I can pack tissue for all of us. That would be landmark for me to actually possess a handbag? Is that what they call them?
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
I hope to be right there with you and Bev, Ron, and Guids when we all a say a goodbye. I will be crying! lol I know I will.
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[spapad] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:55:03 PM
I hope to be right there with you and Bev, Ron, and Guids when we all a say a goodbye. I will be crying! lol I know I will.
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:49:18 PM
I have supported Priest always since I became a fan in '82. They are my all time favorite band and nothing will ever change that. Even if the new album sucks (and I know it won't!), it still won't change how I feel about Priest. I will be there, hopefully standing right next to you at a show, saying goodbye to my band. I KNOW I'll be crying at the final show that I go to, I'll have to bring tissues! I just wish that KK could be there when that last curtain falls, he deserves to be there after everything that he has given to Priest. I'm just sad that it had to end this way.
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[spapad] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:20:02 PM
Yeh, been shedding a few tears myself. But Priest beckons on the horizon, and I will be prepared to go see them with my daughter. She's going to love it, and she willl miss KK too, but we want to see them! End of story.
I believe many of us will support Priest until the end. We may sound selfish, but Priest fans seem to be a loyal bunch. As for me, I know I will be there when all is said and done. I actually shed a tear today listening to Rock Hard Ride Free. I felt like a little girl, but hey, this is my favorite band. Without Priest I wouldn't be the musician I am now. I owe them my loyalty, hence their music has given my life much joy. I will be forever grateful for the good and the bad, because at least we still have the world's greatest heavy metal band. LONG LIVE THE METAL GODS.
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[icecreamman] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:16:28 PM
I believe many of us will support Priest until the end. We may sound selfish, but Priest fans seem to be a loyal bunch. As for me, I know I will be there when all is said and done. I actually shed a tear today listening to Rock Hard Ride Free. I felt like a little girl, but hey, this is my favorite band. Without Priest I wouldn't be the musician I am now. I owe them my loyalty, hence their music has given my life much joy. I will be forever grateful for the good and the bad, because at least we still have the world's greatest heavy metal band. LONG LIVE THE METAL GODS. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, April 22, 2011 8:22:32 PM)
spapad wrote:
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[spapad] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:01:42 PM
Thanks Becks, you may be one of the few. I hope not.
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[spapad] Friday, April 22, 2011 8:22:32 PM
I now realize that we fans of Priest have always been a selfish lot. We have good reason to be.
Why mess with lightning in a bottle?
But we must go on. KK wants us to support the band and I'm sure they have found someone more than up to the job and works simpatico with Glenn. We all fell away when Ripper replaced Rob, because the lyrics and voice was not what we wanted, (we are a brutal judging bunch), and it was not a good separation back then. Not that it ever is for us fans.
I'll be out there supporting them. They are still MY band, I will miss KK tremendously, and might even cry, but I'll be there showing my love of my ALL TIME FAVORITE BAND.
I love my Metal Gods. It's hard enough to see a split so late, but I want to see them one last time. With tears in my eyes when the show is over.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:41:15 PM
I agree Freeze,while I'm interested in what a new album will be like,I can't fathom seeing it live,just can't. But Rob,Glenn and co. don't need us there,they have thousands of fans who do want to see them continue and see them live. They are going to have to prove us wrong and make a kick ass album.
Hey gang! Saw the news about KK. VERY sad. Just will not be Priest without him. I had considered catching one of the shows but, in all honesty, I simply cannot see spending the money and going to the "final" show when it is not really Priest.
I know the guys will deliver a tremendous performance and it will likely still be an incredible event but, for me, it would be like going to one of the shows with Ripper. Just not Priest, for ME.
As I suspected when I heard about the "final" tour, this is the end of an icon. They will always be special to me and I will cherish the wonderful memories that Judas Priest gave me. I think that (again for ME) it is just better that I remember them as they were. I am SO thankful that I made the trip with Guido to Detroit and then again here in Vegas! THAT is how prefer to remember my final concert with them.
Much like this site, I will leave remembering some truly wonderful moments in my life. Some great times! To all of you, take care of yourselves and remember all the good things! Thank you for the great years!
DECORUM
Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 10:12:53 AM
[Deep Freeze] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:09:53 AM
Hey gang! Saw the news about KK. VERY sad. Just will not be Priest without him. I had considered catching one of the shows but, in all honesty, I simply cannot see spending the money and going to the "final" show when it is not really Priest.
I know the guys will deliver a tremendous performance and it will likely still be an incredible event but, for me, it would be like going to one of the shows with Ripper. Just not Priest, for ME.
As I suspected when I heard about the "final" tour, this is the end of an icon. They will always be special to me and I will cherish the wonderful memories that Judas Priest gave me. I think that (again for ME) it is just better that I remember them as they were. I am SO thankful that I made the trip with Guido to Detroit and then again here in Vegas! THAT is how prefer to remember my final concert with them.
Much like this site, I will leave remembering some truly wonderful moments in my life. Some great times! To all of you, take care of yourselves and remember all the good things! Thank you for the great years!
DECORUM
Edited at: Friday, April 22, 2011 10:12:53 AM
[Nupe The Ripper] Friday, April 22, 2011 9:19:51 AM
I probably still would have bought the ticket even if this were announced already in December (as Rob's interview pointed out, KK made his decision around Christmas time). Maybe I wouldn't have bought the ticket immediately after it was possible to do so, but I still would want to see Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott.
I will go, if they decide to come this way. its 80%. better than nothing
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Yeah, I'm still going. Partly because I already bought the ticket in February, and partly because it's still 4/5 Priest, although it's not going to be same, of course.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Now then. Time for some Metal Blah.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[DEN1673] Friday, April 22, 2011 2:56:22 AM
Yo!!!!! Mama!!!!! LOL!!!!! I'm just messing around guys & girls!!!!! Whats up kids????
[Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:20:16 AM
When you figure it out let me know. Months after I signed up I still couldn't do anything.
It's been a year now, I don't even check anymore. If it's that hard then f*ck it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by QT from Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:40:26 AM)
QT wrote:
Hey everyone. Can anyone help me please. I've been trying to become a member of Rob's forums for a while now. I've already reg. 2 different names & e-mail addresses with no response back. I've sent many e-mails, again with no response. I had a friend sign up the same day I tried the first time & she got an e-mail within 2 days. Anyone have any idea what I need to do please send me a PM. Thanks for any help.
[QT] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:40:26 AM
Hey everyone. Can anyone help me please. I've been trying to become a member of Rob's forums for a while now. I've already reg. 2 different names & e-mail addresses with no response back. I've sent many e-mails, again with no response. I had a friend sign up the same day I tried the first time & she got an e-mail within 2 days. Anyone have any idea what I need to do please send me a PM. Thanks for any help.
[Alli] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:38:27 AM
Hi guys
Just read this on KK s steel mill and thought u might like to see it can't believe he;s left!!
K.K. Downing press release
Dear friends,
It is with much regret that I will not be with you this summer. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart for your concerns about my health. Please rest assured that I am O.K.
There has been an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time.
Therefore I have decided to step down rather than to tour with negative sentiments as I feel that this would be a deception to you, our cherished fans.
However I would urge you to please support the Priest as I have no doubt that it will be a show not to be missed.
All my love and respect,
[icecreamman] Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:05:16 AM
I will be going. I never seen Priest live, so it is a must. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:03:08 AM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Now then. Time for some Metal Blah.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[Head banger] Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:01:41 AM
would you have bought the ticket?
I will go, if they decide to come this way. its 80%. better than nothing [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Nupe The Ripper from Thursday, April 21, 2011 3:06:10 AM)
Nupe The Ripper wrote:
Yeah, I'm still going. Partly because I already bought the ticket in February, and partly because it's still 4/5 Priest, although it's not going to be same, of course.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Now then. Time for some Metal Blah.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[Budred] Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:46:31 AM
I've only missed one tour since "Point of Entry" so I'm sure I'll see this one also.
I don't know how I'll be able to enjoy it though. Seeing someone else doing K.K.'s
guitar work along with the sadness of knowing that this is it will definitely dampen
my enthusiasm. The analogy may be a little much but to me it will be like going to
a funeral. After all, these guys have been a part of my life for over 30 years. I've
been expecting this for a decade now. It had to happen eventually.
Thanks guys, the ride has been awesome.
Much great music, many great memories. One great band.
[Nupe The Ripper] Thursday, April 21, 2011 3:06:10 AM
Yeah, I'm still going. Partly because I already bought the ticket in February, and partly because it's still 4/5 Priest, although it's not going to be same, of course.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[Becks] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:28:24 AM
I would like an explanation too, it's all very weird to me.
We are going too Vail. We just had to break the bad news to our 2 sons and tell them that they wouldn't be seeing KK Downing play..... ever...... I am going so that I can say goodbye to Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott and thank them for EVERYTHING.
WTF is all I have to say to KK!!! And you are right, KK OWES us a fucking explanation!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Now then. Time for some Metal Blah.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[Becks] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:23:45 AM
If they come to my part of the world, yes. Absolutely I will go see them.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:20:36 AM
We are going too Vail. We just had to break the bad news to our 2 sons and tell them that they wouldn't be seeing KK Downing play..... ever...... I am going so that I can say goodbye to Rob, Glenn, Ian and Scott and thank them for EVERYTHING.
WTF is all I have to say to KK!!! And you are right, KK OWES us a fucking explanation!
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:03:08 AM
Now then. Time for some Metal Blah.
In light of the recent bad news, the big question now is:
Who will go see Judas Priest (without KK) perform live in their last ever world tour? Would anyone be willing to? As crappy as this question sounds, apparently the rest of the band wants to go on ahead with "all guns blazing" and with the new guy in tow. At least one thing is certain--a new album will come out next year. Here's hoping that KK helped in creating at least some of it (one SONG, at least).
Personally, I will go see them, at least to say goodbye to Glenn, Rob, Ian, and Scott, and give the new guy a chance. At least he won't be a permanent fixture, considering the rest of the band will be done soon. Still...this all blows. An explanation is needed, and fast.
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:16:37 PM
KEEP POSITIVE MAN.KK WILL BE BACK IN OTHER WORDS THE ULTIMATE METAL AXE ATTACK ( KK AND GLENN) WILL CONTINUE WITH A VENGEANCE LIKE NEVER BEFORE FULL ON AND IN OUR FACE.SO GO PLAY YOU AXE MAN LIKE YOUVE NEVER PLAYED IT BEFORE.THINKING AND IMAGINING ABOUT ALL THE TOTAL KILLER ULTIMATE METAL TO COME ( CONTINUING THE LEGACY) FROM THE MIGHTY PRIEST WITH KK( THE ULTIMATE METAL AXE ATTACK KK AND GLENN)WE HAVE SO MUCH TO LOOK FORWARD TO AND IT MUST AND WILL CONTINUE THE MORE THE BETTER
PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST
WITH FIST IN THE AIR
My new guitar strings arrived today, after a week of not having a D string at all in my guitar.
However, I'm not feeling like playing anything after today's news.
Edited at: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:18:18 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:32:39 AM
My new guitar strings arrived today, after a week of not having a D string at all in my guitar.
However, I'm not feeling like playing anything after today's news.
[Budred] Sunday, April 10, 2011 4:58:51 AM
I'm not claiming it to be true. Just noting it has that appearance.
I think I just posted that because of how thin he looks combined with the
way he was chewing that gum, it gave me that impression. Edited at: Sunday, April 10, 2011 5:04:18 AM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, April 09, 2011 6:32:22 PM
You'd be wrong about that Bud. Rob stopped drinking and doing drugs in 1986. This was 1988 just before the Ram It Down Tour. This was the fun loving, joking Rob that I very much miss these days.....
It looks to me like the gum chewing and the slightly elevated energy level may be coming
from an artificial source. Rob was known for it.
[Becks] Saturday, April 09, 2011 5:25:57 PM
Yes in the earlier days, this vid is from circa 1988, at which point Rob had been clean and sober for two years. As far as I've heard, he's always been fairly hyperactive lol.
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, April 05, 2011 3:27:47 PM
Yeah, it truly does! When I originally sent out that e-mail, I was thinking that he probably replies in pretty much the same way that he did now. But after I read on the Judas Priest Shrine that it's administrator had to remove bootleg MP3's from his site after Rob's attorney demanded so, I do admit having been a little scared that it could've been the fate of my site, too. But all's well now, and it does give me little more energy to work on the site when I know that KK himself is aware of it.
Of course, being reassured that new material is being worked on also made me very happy!
Woooo, got my questions answered by KK! I had been waiting for this day ever since I sent that e-mail. Of course I asked about bootlegs, being fairly active on that scene, and was pleased to see that he isn't against them (or at least that's the way I interpreted it): if he would've been against them, I probably would've quit my bootleg site immediately because I don't want to take part in something that my idols dislike.
I also asked him about any officially recorded material that's never been released, and he said that there might be some extra footage in a vault somewhere, although it's still very uncertain if they'll ever release it.
Also, K.K. confirms the same thing that Glenn already did: they are working on new material!
Woooo, got my questions answered by KK! I had been waiting for this day ever since I sent that e-mail. Of course I asked about bootlegs, being fairly active on that scene, and was pleased to see that he isn't against them (or at least that's the way I interpreted it): if he would've been against them, I probably would've quit my bootleg site immediately because I don't want to take part in something that my idols dislike.
I also asked him about any officially recorded material that's never been released, and he said that there might be some extra footage in a vault somewhere, although it's still very uncertain if they'll ever release it.
Also, K.K. confirms the same thing that Glenn already did: they are working on new material!
Edited at: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:29:51 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Monday, April 04, 2011 3:28:38 PM
Woooo, got my questions answered by KK! I had been waiting for this day ever since I sent that e-mail. Of course I asked about bootlegs, being fairly active on that scene, and was pleased to see that he isn't against them (or at least that's the way I interpreted it): if he would've been against them, I probably would've quit my bootleg site immediately because I don't want to take part in something that my idols dislike.
I also asked him about any officially recorded material that's never been released, and he said that there might be some extra footage in a vault somewhere, although it's still very uncertain if they'll ever release it.
Also, K.K. confirms the same thing that Glenn already did: they are working on new material!
Edited at: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:29:51 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 02, 2011 10:19:04 PM
What?! You mean that is real?! I thought it was just some poorly-done graphic.
At least the Venture Brothers was picked up for another 2 years. Go team Venture!
[spapad] Saturday, April 02, 2011 9:52:40 PM
Wont premire till 2012, but I could see the first few episodes being very funny and then it will run out.
This will either be really funny or the worst thing ever.
[spapad] Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:49:41 PM
This will either be really funny or the worst thing ever.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 01, 2011 4:07:02 PM
Barney Rubble!!!!! Dah dah dah dah Lightning in the daaaaaaark,Barney Rubble!!!!!! With a burning heartttt!!!!! lol! This one is for you today Head Banger! HAHA!
Took Bev to the casino yesterday (lol) ooooooh how she likes all the shiny things!! Played for over 3 hours and came out ahead AND we got a free buffet!!
Good day to all
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:46:41 PM
Good day, Ronster!! Nice to see you around here again. Tell Bev I said hi.
Took Bev to the casino yesterday (lol) ooooooh how she likes all the shiny things!! Played for over 3 hours and came out ahead AND we got a free buffet!!
Good day to all
[ron h] Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:04:47 AM
Good morning fellow Metalheads!!
Took Bev to the casino yesterday (lol) ooooooh how she likes all the shiny things!! Played for over 3 hours and came out ahead AND we got a free buffet!!
I will, after I get over my new Captain Jack desktop. lol
guidogodoy wrote:
Very nice picture, indeed! Make it the background for your desktop!
spapad wrote:
I'll let her know. LOL
She saw you post about getting her own account and laughed as she said she would only use it once or twice a year.
My girl doesn't lie. lol
I thought the picture was very nice though.
guidogodoy wrote:
The picture is no problem. Font shows up just fine there.
Look at my reference. It was to the message below that only had text.
spapad wrote:
what?? NOOO!!!!!! well umm people NEED TO GO TO THIS SITE AND GET THE FONT RIGHT NOW!
Very nice picture, indeed! Make it the background for your desktop!
spapad wrote:
I'll let her know. LOL
She saw you post about getting her own account and laughed as she said she would only use it once or twice a year.
My girl doesn't lie. lol
I thought the picture was very nice though.
guidogodoy wrote:
The picture is no problem. Font shows up just fine there.
Look at my reference. It was to the message below that only had text.
spapad wrote:
what?? NOOO!!!!!! well umm people NEED TO GO TO THIS SITE AND GET THE FONT RIGHT NOW!
I'll let her know. LOL
She saw you post about getting her own account and laughed as she said she would only use it once or twice a year.
My girl doesn't lie. lol
I thought the picture was very nice though.
guidogodoy wrote:
The picture is no problem. Font shows up just fine there.
Look at my reference. It was to the message below that only had text.
spapad wrote:
what?? NOOO!!!!!! well umm people NEED TO GO TO THIS SITE AND GET THE FONT RIGHT NOW!
(ask if you want to know how to put it into Microsoft fonts.)
Edited at: Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:53:38 PM
[spapad] Saturday, March 26, 2011 10:59:27 PM
I'll let her know. LOL
She saw you post about getting her own account and laughed as she said she would only use it once or twice a year.
My girl doesn't lie. lol
I thought the picture was very nice though.
Breaking into my mom's account. Thought you might like this, i made it.
[spapad] Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:31:39 PM
Breaking into my mom's account. Thought you might like this, i made it.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, March 26, 2011 5:13:22 PM
No word on either the razorblade or guitar pick necklaces....... still waiting. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, March 26, 2011 2:11:36 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Never bought the razorblade. Still waiting for HRMG or someone else to report if it was different from the two I bought at the last concert.
I assume that those didn't arrive yet either.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ooohhhhhhhh.
Hmmmm...maybe they're still making it. Did you receive the razor blade necklace, at least?
guidogodoy wrote:
No, no. I am talking about the NEW one I bought that has seemingly not been received by anyone in the world.
Guitar pick necklace.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Where was the last place you remember seeing it? Hopefully you didn't leave it in CO.
guidogodoy wrote:
I wonder if the rain washed away my JP necklace? Where is that thing, damnit?
[spapad] Saturday, March 26, 2011 3:44:51 PM
Have not seen a single necklace, and it’s been almost two months!
Cool, I think the JP site needs to add this font to its list! My Daughter found it.
You can go up a bit further to "Seattle" Becks where it down poors rain here all year round' even in June,July and August ha! Well not "all the time' but we do have showers in the summer where it looks like winter,I however love the rain so I'm in the right place.
Becks wrote:
SoCal best have the fine weather for when I get there in 6 weeks! lol!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hey K2M!! Long time no see/hear! Thanks for the welcome back. It'll only be for a while, though. Will be heading back up north before you know it.
Metalgodess, I'll do my best. It won't last though. More rain is on the way!!
K2M wrote:
Welcome Home Vailant. Glad you are back down here
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:07:00 PM
You can go up a bit further to "Seattle" Becks where it down poors rain here all year round' even in June,July and August ha! Well not "all the time' but we do have showers in the summer where it looks like winter,I however love the rain so I'm in the right place.
Hey Vail! Lucky girl - have a great vay-kay - soak up enough sun for the rest of us too!!! Hope you brought 'appropriate' music to keep you well-enertained...
[Vaillant 3.0] Monday, March 21, 2011 11:16:31 AM
Happy Monday, ladies and gents!! Hope everyone has a good day!
I am in SoCal right now, and will be for rest of the week...that whole Spring Break business and all that. Feels good to be back home.
AH, JD my dear, dear friend! How can I possibly ignore such a heartfelt and genuine sentiment?? I miss you as well, my friend. I miss you all! I am busy, this is true, but I have certainly neglected my responsibilites as a true friend to many of you.
I too yearn for the "good old days". The friendships. The closeness. The wonderful memories that we have all made on this Board in the name of the greatest Heavy Metal act ever to grace the earth! As so many of you know, I became incredibly disappointed in the membership when we were invaded by trolls and failed to band together as one, the way we did back in those days. I suppose everything changes and I cannot (and will not) hold ANYONE personally responsible for MY decisions. I simply felt as though my time had expired here when we no longer showed interest in being "family". All on me, I assure you.
I am grateful for the many wonderful relationships I have thanks to this site. The great people that are still a part of my life. JD, I rank YOU among my closest of friends. I always have. You are far more than you appear here on this Board and I honestly appreciate who and what you are. You are GENUINE. You are not pretentious. You are an honest man. You are a friend.
Please know that I do look in occasionally. I think of you all quite often and I do care. You are all very special to me. Thank you for thinking of me!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes I agree,and I'm not singleing him out but I miss Deep Freeze,he was an inspiration for me personally when I joined this site,he was the only member to stick up for me (when I first joined here) and has been nothing but a true friend.
I wish he had time to post regularly but he is involved in a lot of things these days and he is not just sitting at his computer reading what we are saying and not contributing,he is all over the place lately and I understand that,but I do miss his presence here and his thoughts,comments and hospitality....Deep Freeze where ever you are you totally rock my good friend,and I hope Victoria and I will meet you some day that would be awsome.
(Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:04:00 PM)
spapad wrote:
I've got something stupid to say...... I've been on this board for going on 3 1/2 years now, and I can say that I have met some really stellar people here.
They come, and they go at times, but that is the way of the internet. I'm still a noob compared to some of our membership, and I wish those old veterans would come round every now and again, I wont name names because they know who they are. It's been a pleasure to be here and meet so many people over the time.
My thought for the day.
AH, JD my dear, dear friend! How can I possibly ignore such a heartfelt and genuine sentiment?? I miss you as well, my friend. I miss you all! I am busy, this is true, but I have certainly neglected my responsibilites as a true friend to many of you.
I too yearn for the "good old days". The friendships. The closeness. The wonderful memories that we have all made on this Board in the name of the greatest Heavy Metal act ever to grace the earth! As so many of you know, I became incredibly disappointed in the membership when we were invaded by trolls and failed to band together as one, the way we did back in those days. I suppose everything changes and I cannot (and will not) hold ANYONE personally responsible for MY decisions. I simply felt as though my time had expired here when we no longer showed interest in being "family". All on me, I assure you.
I am grateful for the many wonderful relationships I have thanks to this site. The great people that are still a part of my life. JD, I rank YOU among my closest of friends. I always have. You are far more than you appear here on this Board and I honestly appreciate who and what you are. You are GENUINE. You are not pretentious. You are an honest man. You are a friend.
Please know that I do look in occasionally. I think of you all quite often and I do care. You are all very special to me. Thank you for thinking of me!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes I agree,and I'm not singleing him out but I miss Deep Freeze,he was an inspiration for me personally when I joined this site,he was the only member to stick up for me (when I first joined here) and has been nothing but a true friend.
I wish he had time to post regularly but he is involved in a lot of things these days and he is not just sitting at his computer reading what we are saying and not contributing,he is all over the place lately and I understand that,but I do miss his presence here and his thoughts,comments and hospitality....Deep Freeze where ever you are you totally rock my good friend,and I hope Victoria and I will meet you some day that would be awsome.
(Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:04:00 PM)
spapad wrote:
I've got something stupid to say...... I've been on this board for going on 3 1/2 years now, and I can say that I have met some really stellar people here.
They come, and they go at times, but that is the way of the internet. I'm still a noob compared to some of our membership, and I wish those old veterans would come round every now and again, I wont name names because they know who they are. It's been a pleasure to be here and meet so many people over the time.
My thought for the day.
AH, JD my dear, dear friend! How can I possibly ignore such a heartfelt and genuine sentiment?? I miss you as well, my friend. I miss you all! I am busy, this is true, but I have certainly neglected my responsibilites as a true friend to many of you.
I too yearn for the "good old days". The friendships. The closeness. The wonderful memories that we have all made on this Board in the name of the greatest Heavy Metal act ever to grace the earth! As so many of you know, I became incredibly disappointed in the membership when we were invaded by trolls and failed to band together as one, the way we did back in those days. I suppose everything changes and I cannot (and will not) hold ANYONE personally responsible for MY decisions. I simply felt as though my time had expired here when we no longer showed interest in being "family". All on me, I assure you.
I am grateful for the many wonderful relationships I have thanks to this site. The great people that are still a part of my life. JD, I rank YOU among my closest of friends. I always have. You are far more than you appear here on this Board and I honestly appreciate who and what you are. You are GENUINE. You are not pretentious. You are an honest man. You are a friend.
Please know that I do look in occasionally. I think of you all quite often and I do care. You are all very special to me. Thank you for thinking of me!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes I agree,and I'm not singleing him out but I miss Deep Freeze,he was an inspiration for me personally when I joined this site,he was the only member to stick up for me (when I first joined here) and has been nothing but a true friend.
I wish he had time to post regularly but he is involved in a lot of things these days and he is not just sitting at his computer reading what we are saying and not contributing,he is all over the place lately and I understand that,but I do miss his presence here and his thoughts,comments and hospitality....Deep Freeze where ever you are you totally rock my good friend,and I hope Victoria and I will meet you some day that would be awsome.
(Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:04:00 PM)
spapad wrote:
I've got something stupid to say...... I've been on this board for going on 3 1/2 years now, and I can say that I have met some really stellar people here.
They come, and they go at times, but that is the way of the internet. I'm still a noob compared to some of our membership, and I wish those old veterans would come round every now and again, I wont name names because they know who they are. It's been a pleasure to be here and meet so many people over the time.
My thought for the day.
Edited at: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:19:56 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:15:40 PM
FREEEEEEEZEEE!!!!! Your alive!!!! LOL! Deep Freeze,thanks for your kind words my good friend,your time will never expire here,you will always be a part of this site...you know....the site that I quit 1,000 times and counting but always come back haha!
I'm happy to hear your doing well and am willing to pay your band to cover Motorhead's Going To Brazil and the Ramones Rock And Roll Radio HA! You guys rock man,keep up the good work and you have NOT neglected any responsibilities as a true friend to any of us as you "ARE" that true friend to all of us and those trolls fall to the way side,that residant pit bull is still here whenever ya need him ha! Thanks for stopping by to say hellow and I'll be giving you a PM to update you on many things,thanks Deep Freeze you totally ROCK!!
AH, JD my dear, dear friend! How can I possibly ignore such a heartfelt and genuine sentiment?? I miss you as well, my friend. I miss you all! I am busy, this is true, but I have certainly neglected my responsibilites as a true friend to many of you.
I too yearn for the "good old days". The friendships. The closeness. The wonderful memories that we have all made on this Board in the name of the greatest Heavy Metal act ever to grace the earth! As so many of you know, I became incredibly disappointed in the membership when we were invaded by trolls and failed to band together as one, the way we did back in those days. I suppose everything changes and I cannot (and will not) hold ANYONE personally responsible for MY decisions. I simply felt as though my time had expired here when we no longer showed interest in being "family". All on me, I assure you.
I am grateful for the many wonderful relationships I have thanks to this site. The great people that are still a part of my life. JD, I rank YOU among my closest of friends. I always have. You are far more than you appear here on this Board and I honestly appreciate who and what you are. You are GENUINE. You are not pretentious. You are an honest man. You are a friend.
Please know that I do look in occasionally. I think of you all quite often and I do care. You are all very special to me. Thank you for thinking of me!
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Yes I agree,and I'm not singleing him out but I miss Deep Freeze,he was an inspiration for me personally when I joined this site,he was the only member to stick up for me (when I first joined here) and has been nothing but a true friend.
I wish he had time to post regularly but he is involved in a lot of things these days and he is not just sitting at his computer reading what we are saying and not contributing,he is all over the place lately and I understand that,but I do miss his presence here and his thoughts,comments and hospitality....Deep Freeze where ever you are you totally rock my good friend,and I hope Victoria and I will meet you some day that would be awsome.
(Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:04:00 PM)
spapad wrote:
I've got something stupid to say...... I've been on this board for going on 3 1/2 years now, and I can say that I have met some really stellar people here.
They come, and they go at times, but that is the way of the internet. I'm still a noob compared to some of our membership, and I wish those old veterans would come round every now and again, I wont name names because they know who they are. It's been a pleasure to be here and meet so many people over the time.
My thought for the day.
Edited at: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:19:56 PM
[Deep Freeze] Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:29:31 PM
AH, JD my dear, dear friend! How can I possibly ignore such a heartfelt and genuine sentiment?? I miss you as well, my friend. I miss you all! I am busy, this is true, but I have certainly neglected my responsibilites as a true friend to many of you.
I too yearn for the "good old days". The friendships. The closeness. The wonderful memories that we have all made on this Board in the name of the greatest Heavy Metal act ever to grace the earth! As so many of you know, I became incredibly disappointed in the membership when we were invaded by trolls and failed to band together as one, the way we did back in those days. I suppose everything changes and I cannot (and will not) hold ANYONE personally responsible for MY decisions. I simply felt as though my time had expired here when we no longer showed interest in being "family". All on me, I assure you.
I am grateful for the many wonderful relationships I have thanks to this site. The great people that are still a part of my life. JD, I rank YOU among my closest of friends. I always have. You are far more than you appear here on this Board and I honestly appreciate who and what you are. You are GENUINE. You are not pretentious. You are an honest man. You are a friend.
Please know that I do look in occasionally. I think of you all quite often and I do care. You are all very special to me. Thank you for thinking of me!
Yes I agree,and I'm not singleing him out but I miss Deep Freeze,he was an inspiration for me personally when I joined this site,he was the only member to stick up for me (when I first joined here) and has been nothing but a true friend.
I wish he had time to post regularly but he is involved in a lot of things these days and he is not just sitting at his computer reading what we are saying and not contributing,he is all over the place lately and I understand that,but I do miss his presence here and his thoughts,comments and hospitality....Deep Freeze where ever you are you totally rock my good friend,and I hope Victoria and I will meet you some day that would be awsome.
(Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:04:00 PM)
spapad wrote:
I've got something stupid to say...... I've been on this board for going on 3 1/2 years now, and I can say that I have met some really stellar people here.
They come, and they go at times, but that is the way of the internet. I'm still a noob compared to some of our membership, and I wish those old veterans would come round every now and again, I wont name names because they know who they are. It's been a pleasure to be here and meet so many people over the time.
My thought for the day.
Edited at: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:19:56 PM
[Nupe The Ripper] Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:15:07 PM
Whatever happened to www.judaspriestworld.com? I admit that I wasn't following Judas Priest web pages much in 2009 and 2010, so I've pretty much missed out on the site. The launch of the site seems to have gotten into many music news sources, so you'd think it'd have had a lot of support. But nowadays if I input that address in the browser I find myself on one of those many "placeholder" scam sites. Did someone just forget to pay for the hosting, or is there something more morbid behind this?
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:19:14 PM
Yes I agree,and I'm not singleing him out but I miss Deep Freeze,he was an inspiration for me personally when I joined this site,he was the only member to stick up for me (when I first joined here) and has been nothing but a true friend.
I wish he had time to post regularly but he is involved in a lot of things these days and he is not just sitting at his computer reading what we are saying and not contributing,he is all over the place lately and I understand that,but I do miss his presence here and his thoughts,comments and hospitality....Deep Freeze where ever you are you totally rock my good friend,and I hope Victoria and I will meet you some day that would be awsome.
I've got something stupid to say...... I've been on this board for going on 3 1/2 years now, and I can say that I have met some really stellar people here.
They come, and they go at times, but that is the way of the internet. I'm still a noob compared to some of our membership, and I wish those old veterans would come round every now and again, I wont name names because they know who they are. It's been a pleasure to be here and meet so many people over the time.
My thought for the day.
Edited at: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:19:56 PM
[spapad] Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:04:00 PM
I've got something stupid to say...... I've been on this board for going on 3 1/2 years now, and I can say that I have met some really stellar people here.
They come, and they go at times, but that is the way of the internet. I'm still a noob compared to some of our membership, and I wish those old veterans would come round every now and again, I wont name names because they know who they are. It's been a pleasure to be here and meet so many people over the time.
My thought for the day.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, March 11, 2011 9:32:21 PM
That's fantastic Den!! This should remind all of us to be organ donors and help save lives.
Yo, as of 3/10/11 its been 4yrs healthy since my transplant... God Bless my "Angel" that saved my life 4yrs ago!!! Just truely happy & smiling, happy to be alive!!! How about showing me some love, my dear ol'friends!!! Ha Ha
Yo, as of 3/10/11 its been 4yrs healthy since my transplant... God Bless my "Angel" that saved my life 4yrs ago!!! Just truely happy & smiling, happy to be alive!!! How about showing me some love, my dear ol'friends!!! Ha Ha
Yo, as of 3/10/11 its been 4yrs healthy since my transplant... God Bless my "Angel" that saved my life 4yrs ago!!! Just truely happy & smiling, happy to be alive!!! How about showing me some love, my dear ol'friends!!! Ha Ha
[Head banger] Friday, March 11, 2011 7:45:58 AM
DEN!!! congrats man. awesome to see you up and about, glad the transplant took place and your doing well [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by DEN1673 from Friday, March 11, 2011 3:23:01 AM)
DEN1673 wrote:
Yo, as of 3/10/11 its been 4yrs healthy since my transplant... God Bless my "Angel" that saved my life 4yrs ago!!! Just truely happy & smiling, happy to be alive!!! How about showing me some love, my dear ol'friends!!! Ha Ha
[Budred] Friday, March 11, 2011 5:02:43 AM
It's a lovely morning this morning. Woke up to a phonecall telling me the highway I take to work is closed do to a rockslide.
It was 50 degrees yesterday and now it's snowing. We have floods coming today or tomorrow and then I turned the TV on and saw
what's going on in Japan and the Tsunami warnings for the U.S.. I think I'm going back to bed.(LOL).
Seriously though, I hope all members here from Japan are fine. Take care.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, March 11, 2011 4:11:04 AM
Den1673,although you and I have never had a conversation after all this time I do wish you all the best and I am glad to hear your transplant is all and well man,good to hear your doing great man!!!
Yo, as of 3/10/11 its been 4yrs healthy since my transplant... God Bless my "Angel" that saved my life 4yrs ago!!! Just truely happy & smiling, happy to be alive!!! How about showing me some love, my dear ol'friends!!! Ha Ha
[DEN1673] Friday, March 11, 2011 3:23:01 AM
Yo, as of 3/10/11 its been 4yrs healthy since my transplant... God Bless my "Angel" that saved my life 4yrs ago!!! Just truely happy & smiling, happy to be alive!!! How about showing me some love, my dear ol'friends!!! Ha Ha
[DEN1673] Friday, March 11, 2011 2:52:43 AM
Oh Wow!!!! Just a quick note to all, as of 3/10/11 it's been 4yrs to the day!!!!! Much love to you all....
[Budred] Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:40:20 AM
Thanks guys.
Much appreciated.
I'll order them next Wednesday.
I'll post a picture when I get them.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Monday, March 07, 2011 10:06:53 PM
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Monday, March 07, 2011 9:51:24 PM
These are the ones that we got. I'm not sure who the seller was, so this may not be the same person we bought from. But these are the cases. We liked the white ones better than the black, but there are both for sale.
Try this: cgi.ebay.com/Lot-12-Guitar-Pick-Display-Cases-351-Style-White-/200452545143
I'm ready to order those pick cases. I tried to find them and I'm not sure who to order from.
I found a few different places selling them and some are different. I like the ones you have.
Can you direct me to the right one. Any help would be appreciated.
I'm ready to order those pick cases. I tried to find them and I'm not sure who to order from.
I found a few different places selling them and some are different. I like the ones you have.
Can you direct me to the right one. Any help would be appreciated.
but in saying that, I will still give 100% of my support to the other 4/5's of Judas Priest 
