[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:02:17 PM
lol! Yeah I know it hellrider,but what have they done recently? Is it the Winter Songs album you are talking about? I hear what you are saying.I was in a shit mood they other day and got sick of seeing all these christmas metal songs by various artists...my brain needs "metal" and I think it is starving for it,it has to come from the masters,I can deal with it when they retire but for them to be still very active and not cranked out an entire albums worth of classic material in 5 years is getting impatient for myself. I kills me knowing that they can put out an album of excellence "if they wanted to"....
Hopfully they will get the same cravings for oldschool stripped down classic british metal,if they don't...we are fucked. And if they salvage any of those extra tracks from Nostradamus and slap them on the next studio album...we are double fucked hellrider!!! Arrrgh this band is killing me! LOL! Why do I like this band??? lofl hellrider!!!!
yeah J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEERRRRRRRR and they have done it again.my nerves are shot
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,with an album title such as "Defenders Of The Faith"(1984) meaning "defending the heavy metal faith" going on and on about how much the faith of heavy metal means to them ect...during the Defenders Of The Faith tour,and then do a compleate 180 turn and head in the opposite direction going against everything they said and create the Turbo album? It didn't make sense to me back in 1986 when they did it,and it doesn't make sense to me know albmost 25 years later. I read an article in 88' where Rob said "If we would of done anything of less quality on the turbo album I think it would of been a let down for myself and the fans".
He said something like that in the article I read back then,but I think what he was really saying is that after he looked at the album probly a year after its release,he realized they went too far in the other direction of heavy metal,and maybe he was saying it really was a let down,something they got caught up in at the moment back in 1986 where everything that looked like Poison and Motley Crue was selling huge amounts of albums which equals $cash in thy pocket.So I think that they really only did Turbo to get money,not for the "true Judas Priest" fans.They sold out BIG TIME and everybody knows it,the material shows.
Yes there are tons of fans who love Turbo and may think its one of Priest's best records,its up to the beholder to decide,everybody has an opinion.But the over-all majority of Priest fans 90% of them do not care for the Turbo album. I don't think that they "sold out" with Nostradamus though,I really think it was indeed targeted towards the true Judas Priest fanbase but just as something new and different to try out,but again in the same results I think it backfired at them for trying,however the material on Nostradamus is FAR better quality than that of the Turbo album.
I have very little "faith" in this band for hoping that they crank out a heavy metal album but its because of "experiments' they did with albums like Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus....I wish there were 3 bold faced crushing heavy metal albums in the place of those 3 experimental albums,it would of made Judas Priest's discography look much better,but the band is content on trying new things regardless of what the majority of its true fanbase says.
(Quoting Message by truckreye from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:57:47 PM)
truckreye wrote:
Really anticlimatic after lyrics like I beleive you're the devil's child!!!
Edited at: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:45:45 PM
Edited at: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:04:15 PM Edited at: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:04:45 PM
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:01:58 PM
oh oh oh J.D DIAMOND THE COOOMMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRRRR i thought you might be very excited to know i went over to the quorum and found out priest still have some unfinished tracks from nostradamus. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:42:39 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,with an album title such as "Defenders Of The Faith"(1984) meaning "defending the heavy metal faith" going on and on about how much the faith of heavy metal means to them ect...during the Defenders Of The Faith tour,and then do a compleate 180 turn and head in the opposite direction going against everything they said and create the Turbo album? It didn't make sense to me back in 1986 when they did it,and it doesn't make sense to me know albmost 25 years later. I read an article in 88' where Rob said "If we would of done anything of less quality on the turbo album I think it would of been a let down for myself and the fans".
He said something like that in the article I read back then,but I think what he was really saying is that after he looked at the album probly a year after its release,he realized they went too far in the other direction of heavy metal,and maybe he was saying it really was a let down,something they got caught up in at the moment back in 1986 where everything that looked like Poison and Motley Crue was selling huge amounts of albums which equals $cash in thy pocket.So I think that they really only did Turbo to get money,not for the "true Judas Priest" fans.They sold out BIG TIME and everybody knows it,the material shows.
Yes there are tons of fans who love Turbo and may think its one of Priest's best records,its up to the beholder to decide,everybody has an opinion.But the over-all majority of Priest fans 90% of them do not care for the Turbo album. I don't think that they "sold out" with Nostradamus though,I really think it was indeed targeted towards the true Judas Priest fanbase but just as something new and different to try out,but again in the same results I think it backfired at them for trying,however the material on Nostradamus is FAR better quality than that of the Turbo album.
I have very little "faith" in this band for hoping that they crank out a heavy metal album but its because of "experiments' they did with albums like Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus....I wish there were 3 bold faced crushing heavy metal albums in the place of those 3 experimental albums,it would of made Judas Priest's discography look much better,but the band is content on trying new things regardless of what the majority of its true fanbase says.
(Quoting Message by truckreye from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:57:47 PM)
truckreye wrote:
Really anticlimatic after lyrics like I beleive you're the devil's child!!!
Edited at: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:45:45 PM
[hellrider 31038] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:46:08 PM
yeah J.D DIAMOND THE COOOOMMMMMMAAAAANNNNNDDDDDEEEERRRRRRRR and they have done it again.my nerves are shot [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:42:39 PM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Well,with an album title such as "Defenders Of The Faith"(1984) meaning "defending the heavy metal faith" going on and on about how much the faith of heavy metal means to them ect...during the Defenders Of The Faith tour,and then do a compleate 180 turn and head in the opposite direction going against everything they said and create the Turbo album? It didn't make sense to me back in 1986 when they did it,and it doesn't make sense to me know albmost 25 years later. I read an article in 88' where Rob said "If we would of done anything of less quality on the turbo album I think it would of been a let down for myself and the fans".
He said something like that in the article I read back then,but I think what he was really saying is that after he looked at the album probly a year after its release,he realized they went too far in the other direction of heavy metal,and maybe he was saying it really was a let down,something they got caught up in at the moment back in 1986 where everything that looked like Poison and Motley Crue was selling huge amounts of albums which equals $cash in thy pocket.So I think that they really only did Turbo to get money,not for the "true Judas Priest" fans.They sold out BIG TIME and everybody knows it,the material shows.
Yes there are tons of fans who love Turbo and may think its one of Priest's best records,its up to the beholder to decide,everybody has an opinion.But the over-all majority of Priest fans 90% of them do not care for the Turbo album. I don't think that they "sold out" with Nostradamus though,I really think it was indeed targeted towards the true Judas Priest fanbase but just as something new and different to try out,but again in the same results I think it backfired at them for trying,however the material on Nostradamus is FAR better quality than that of the Turbo album.
I have very little "faith" in this band for hoping that they crank out a heavy metal album but its because of "experiments' they did with albums like Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus....I wish there were 3 bold faced crushing heavy metal albums in the place of those 3 experimental albums,it would of made Judas Priest's discography look much better,but the band is content on trying new things regardless of what the majority of its true fanbase says.
(Quoting Message by truckreye from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:57:47 PM)
truckreye wrote:
Really anticlimatic after lyrics like I beleive you're the devil's child!!!
Edited at: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:45:45 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:42:39 PM
Well,with an album title such as "Defenders Of The Faith"(1984) meaning "defending the heavy metal faith" going on and on about how much the faith of heavy metal means to them ect...during the Defenders Of The Faith tour,and then do a compleate 180 turn and head in the opposite direction going against everything they said and create the Turbo album? It didn't make sense to me back in 1986 when they did it,and it doesn't make sense to me know albmost 25 years later. I read an article in 88' where Rob said "If we would of done anything of less quality on the turbo album I think it would of been a let down for myself and the fans".
He said something like that in the article I read back then,but I think what he was really saying is that after he looked at the album probly a year after its release,he realized they went too far in the other direction of heavy metal,and maybe he was saying it really was a let down,something they got caught up in at the moment back in 1986 where everything that looked like Poison and Motley Crue was selling huge amounts of albums which equals $cash in thy pocket.So I think that they really only did Turbo to get money,not for the "true Judas Priest" fans.They sold out BIG TIME and everybody knows it,the material shows.
Yes there are tons of fans who love Turbo and may think its one of Priest's best records,its up to the beholder to decide,everybody has an opinion.But the over-all majority of Priest fans 90% of them do not care for the Turbo album. I don't think that they "sold out" with Nostradamus though,I really think it was indeed targeted towards the true Judas Priest fanbase but just as something new and different to try out,but again in the same results I think it backfired at them for trying,however the material on Nostradamus is FAR better quality than that of the Turbo album.
I have very little "faith" in this band for hoping that they crank out a heavy metal album but its because of "experiments' they did with albums like Turbo,Demolition and Nostradamus....I wish there were 3 bold faced crushing heavy metal albums in the place of those 3 experimental albums,it would of made Judas Priest's discography look much better,but the band is content on trying new things regardless of what the majority of its true fanbase says.
Really anticlimatic after lyrics like I beleive you're the devil's child!!!
Edited at: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:45:45 PM
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:57:47 PM
Really anticlimatic after lyrics like I beleive you're the devil's child!!!
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:55:55 PM
But with lyrics like We dont need no ,no, no,no parental guidance here you can't really blame me.
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:53:23 PM
Actually after Screamin' and Defenders I didnt keep up with Priest much.
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:49:47 PM
Perhaps but the worst metal album EVER? Damn!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:43:49 PM
Well,with tracks like "Parental Guidence,Private Property,Rock You All Around The World",and Hot For lOve...how couldn't it be the worst? lol! The only 3 tracks out of 9 tracks that are salvagable are "Out In tHe Cold,Wild Nights and Reckless". The other tracks are an embarressment. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by truckreye from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:36:48 PM)
truckreye wrote:
Damn!
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:36:48 PM
Damn!
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:35:33 PM
In my opinion,the "Turbo" album is not only the worst LP by Judas Priest,but may be the worst LP by ANY heavy metal artist in the last 25 years.
[truckreye] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:27:42 PM
yeahitscool.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:25:30 PM
I respect you opinion,but it baffles me that someone could enjoy the Turbo album more so than the Ram It Down album.The title track alone "Ram It Down" is better than any track off Turbo.So is the "Heavy Metal" track,and also for a commercial friendly song..."Come And Get It" is better than any track off of Turbo as well as Hard As Iron and Blood Red Skies. But to each his own.
Ram It Down while being not one of Priest's better albums is light years better quality than Turbo. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ProwlerCub from Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:29:58 PM)
ProwlerCub wrote:
I actually like Turbo because there are some catchy songs on there. Of course I do have a problem with grown men singning about not needing Parental Guidance. I can see where it is considered a bit of a sell-out album because of the sound and the look the band went for at the time. IMO it is a lot better than the Ram It Down album (save Blood Red Skies).
[ProwlerCub] Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:29:58 PM
I actually like Turbo because there are some catchy songs on there. Of course I do have a problem with grown men singning about not needing Parental Guidance. I can see where it is considered a bit of a sell-out album because of the sound and the look the band went for at the time. IMO it is a lot better than the Ram It Down album (save Blood Red Skies).
[Dale T.] Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:12:03 PM
This stuff is the greatest. Rob is epic , nobody can beat the music and especially the guitar solos on this. They're out of this world. Shoot! Funny thing is these guys can still kick the crap out of bands today and they are almost 60. Halford is the best front man ever. Tip and KK the best tandom on the axes. And of course the Priest magic. Can't touch em.
Edited at: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:15:01 PM
[jimmyjames] Friday, December 18, 2009 4:55:03 PM
I think it's Turbo, with a u.
[K2M] Friday, December 18, 2009 1:47:47 PM
Awesome Muscianship. Great creative forces united
[J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, December 18, 2009 3:38:51 AM
No Dale,Jugulator did not have any "thrash" elements in it,Ripper Owen's backing vocals on the song Jugulator("mutilate"!) is not "thrash" it is again british heavy metal at it's heaviest,not fucking "thrash".Obviously you have no idea what "thrash" really is,because Judas Priest has never had any elements of thrash in any of thier songs. And you really think they can do rap or disco and pull it off? Uuhh,ok "fanboy". [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Dale T. from Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:16:52 PM)
Dale T. wrote:
I love Reckless. If Metal Gods wanted to do "disco" or "rap" they would be the one metal band that could pull it off and make it sound good. Jugulator has thrash elements so yes that have done it all. Slipknot, Metallica and all the biggies out there were influenced by Judas Priest, and they were the reason they started to play in the first place. Shoot!! Priest were the defining Heavy Metal gods of the 80s and still are along with Dio, Iron Maiden-True to the Core Classic Heavy metal!! Calling the turbo album "pathetic" IMHO is just nonsense and an insult to the Metal Gods. Edited at: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:35:06 PM
[Dale T.] Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:16:52 PM
I love Reckless. If Metal Gods wanted to do "disco" or "rap" they would be the one metal band that could pull it off and make it sound good. Jugulator has thrash elements so yes that have done it all. Slipknot, Metallica and all the biggies out there were influenced by Judas Priest, and they were the reason they started to play in the first place. Shoot!! Priest were the defining Heavy Metal gods of the 80s and still are along with Dio, Iron Maiden-True to the Core Classic Heavy metal!! Calling the turbo album "pathetic" IMHO is just nonsense and an insult to the Metal Gods. Edited at: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:35:06 PM
[scthree05] Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:23:27 PM
i have never been a huge fan of turbo. but i don't think it was a sellout as some claim. it was different and a bit "poppier." but it did create one of my all time favorite songs "reckless." i was born in 1970 and i was one of many that discovered priest with screaming for vengeance. so while i love the stuff before screaming i wasn't listening to them when those records came out. but if i understand correctly point of entry was recieved in a similar way. but i love point of entry, my point that i am rambling towards is that this band could crank out the same album every two years and quite a few of us would buy it and love it. but taking this easy route isn't what they do. i enjoy hearing them cover new ground and going down more creative roads. Nost. is not defenders or sin after sin, and thank god, rob, glenn and k.k. for that!
