| [Becks] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:31:09 PM | |
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LMAO Val! Go dancing banana!!!!  |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:23:13 PM | |
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You want fun? Then here's some fun:
www.youtube.com/watch
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:19:19 PM)| |  | guidogodoy wrote: | | | A billion people have supposedly bought Extendz. I feel left out. How could so many people be wrong? It does nothing specific but I understand that "it could be fun" (as per the commercial). I think I need more fun in my life. |
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| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:19:19 PM | |
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| A billion people have supposedly bought Extendz. I feel left out. How could so many people be wrong? It does nothing specific but I understand that "it could be fun" (as per the commercial). I think I need more fun in my life. |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:36:27 PM | |
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yeah, interested. total cloud for a few hundred miles!@
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:16:13 PM)| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED AND YOU HAVE CLEAR SKIES TONIGHT IN YOUR AREA,YOU MIGHT WANT TO STICK YOUR NOSE OUT THE DOOR AND VIEW THE SOUTHERN SKY...COME 'LULIN' ON HER CELESTIAL JOURNEY AROUND OUR SOLAR SYSTEM IS PASSING EARTH AT IT'S CLOSEST
TONIGHT,ABOUT 61 MILLION KM. AWAY...AS A GUIDE,LOOK FOR THE LORD OF THE RINGS,THE
BRIGHTEST SPOT IN THE SOUTH SKY TONIGHT...WILL BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT...GONNA FINISH WATCHING THIS DAMN HOCKEY GAME THEN GO TAKE A PEEK.  |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:16:13 PM | |
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IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED AND YOU HAVE CLEAR SKIES TONIGHT IN YOUR AREA,YOU MIGHT WANT TO STICK YOUR NOSE OUT THE DOOR AND VIEW THE SOUTHERN SKY...COME 'LULIN' ON HER CELESTIAL JOURNEY AROUND OUR SOLAR SYSTEM IS PASSING EARTH AT IT'S CLOSEST
TONIGHT,ABOUT 61 MILLION KM. AWAY...AS A GUIDE,LOOK FOR THE LORD OF THE RINGS,THE
BRIGHTEST SPOT IN THE SOUTH SKY TONIGHT...WILL BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT...GONNA FINISH WATCHING THIS DAMN HOCKEY GAME THEN GO TAKE A PEEK. |
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| [guidogodoy] Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:04:30 PM | |
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So they seem to believe. As I understood from the comments from that Eddie Trunk show (forgot who was also speaking on the subject..his guest), any band is usually involved in the re-master process. If not, it can and will occur without their input as they really did not anticipate such an eventuality way back when the original contracts were originally signed.
As part of the contracts, it was also common for a label to release individual tracks as they saw fit. Again, with or without the band's authorization. Here is where the bastardization comes into play. The band (or one or two members, as is usually the case) "re-mixes" / remasters the song and re-issues it and the label turns it to a subsidiary company to compile a CD. While the band (rarely ALL the band) may or may not have been involved in the original remaster, they were certainly not consulted in the release of a bargain-bin compilation. Even the photos are usually stock photos rather than any sort of original creative artwork.
That said, I am off to run! Laters all.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bev from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:53:16 PM)| | | Bev wrote: | | Agreed. So in theory "re-mastered" is the technicality that makes it a "legit" bastardization?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Better said, the COULD only re-release if it were in their contract to do so.
My comments were on the original band-endorsed compilations, NOT the remasters. I really have little doubt that, as Phantom said, the originally endorsed albums were also remastered and fully endorsed by the band themselves as such a process would involve re-mixing and digitizing. It would also not be any stretch of the imagination that lesser-labels would hook onto the latest trend in re-issuing and re-mastering compilation albums based on the offical releases.
Don't know who else heard it, but Eddie Trunk went on and on in a recent show about this very common trend nowadays. Needless to say, the majority of his comments were negative as he felt (as do I) that it is all label / $ oriented.
| | | Bev wrote: | | I think the major labels would only release something like that if it were in the contract to begin with. my humble opinion
| | | devils_child wrote: | | And so Metal Works didn't make it... So i am to understand it was the labels idea, not the bands to re-release the studio albums.
| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | The original "plan" for the remasters series was
to get in the frist 10 studio albums from CBS/Sony
and the both live albums of the band.
It was the idea of CBS/Sony to get
"Living after midnight"
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"Metal works '73 - '93"
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| [Bev] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:53:16 PM | |
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Agreed. So in theory "re-mastered" is the technicality that makes it a "legit" bastardization?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:48:10 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Better said, the COULD only re-release if it were in their contract to do so.
My comments were on the original band-endorsed compilations, NOT the remasters. I really have little doubt that, as Phantom said, the originally endorsed albums were also remastered and fully endorsed by the band themselves as such a process would involve re-mixing and digitizing. It would also not be any stretch of the imagination that lesser-labels would hook onto the latest trend in re-issuing and re-mastering compilation albums based on the offical releases.
Don't know who else heard it, but Eddie Trunk went on and on in a recent show about this very common trend nowadays. Needless to say, the majority of his comments were negative as he felt (as do I) that it is all label / $ oriented.
| | | Bev wrote: | | I think the major labels would only release something like that if it were in the contract to begin with. my humble opinion
| | | devils_child wrote: | | And so Metal Works didn't make it... So i am to understand it was the labels idea, not the bands to re-release the studio albums.
| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | The original "plan" for the remasters series was
to get in the frist 10 studio albums from CBS/Sony
and the both live albums of the band.
It was the idea of CBS/Sony to get
"Living after midnight"
and
"Metal works '73 - '93"
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| [guidogodoy] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:48:10 PM | |
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Better said, the COULD only re-release if it were in their contract to do so.
My comments were on the original band-endorsed compilations, NOT the remasters. I really have little doubt that, as Phantom said, the originally endorsed albums were also remastered and fully endorsed by the band themselves as such a process would involve re-mixing and digitizing. It would also not be any stretch of the imagination that lesser-labels would hook onto the latest trend in re-issuing and re-mastering compilation albums based on the offical releases.
Don't know who else heard it, but Eddie Trunk went on and on in a recent show about this very common trend nowadays. Needless to say, the majority of his comments were negative as he felt (as do I) that it is all label / $ oriented.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bev from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:28:07 PM)| | | Bev wrote: | | I think the major labels would only release something like that if it were in the contract to begin with. my humble opinion
| | | devils_child wrote: | | And so Metal Works didn't make it... So i am to understand it was the labels idea, not the bands to re-release the studio albums.
| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | The original "plan" for the remasters series was
to get in the frist 10 studio albums from CBS/Sony
and the both live albums of the band.
It was the idea of CBS/Sony to get
"Living after midnight"
and
"Metal works '73 - '93"
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| [Phantom A6] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:38:13 PM | |
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For the 10 studio albums and the 2 live albums it was
the idea of the band and the label to remastering the
back catalog of the band.
At this time Priest wasn't reunited and have their own
label "Priest Music Ltd" which with they have released
all the material with Tim Owens.
In this times CBS/Sony have released
"Living after midnight"
"Metal works '73 -'93"
"Simply the best"
"Breaking the law"
and
"Priest Live and rare"
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by devils_child from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:25:58 PM)| | | devils_child wrote: | | And so Metal Works didn't make it... So i am to understand it was the labels idea, not the bands to re-release the studio albums.
| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | The original "plan" for the remasters series was
to get in the frist 10 studio albums from CBS/Sony
and the both live albums of the band.
It was the idea of CBS/Sony to get
"Living after midnight"
and
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| [devils_child] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:30:48 PM | |
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My head is swimming with too much thought.... I'm going back to perve on Steve's legs....  |
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| [Bev] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:28:07 PM | |
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I think the major labels would only release something like that if it were in the contract to begin with. my humble opinion
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by devils_child from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:25:58 PM)| | | devils_child wrote: | | And so Metal Works didn't make it... So i am to understand it was the labels idea, not the bands to re-release the studio albums.
| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | The original "plan" for the remasters series was
to get in the frist 10 studio albums from CBS/Sony
and the both live albums of the band.
It was the idea of CBS/Sony to get
"Living after midnight"
and
"Metal works '73 - '93"
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| [devils_child] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:25:58 PM | |
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And so Metal Works didn't make it... So i am to understand it was the labels idea, not the bands to re-release the studio albums.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:22:19 PM)| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | The original "plan" for the remasters series was
to get in the frist 10 studio albums from CBS/Sony
and the both live albums of the band.
It was the idea of CBS/Sony to get
"Living after midnight"
and
"Metal works '73 - '93"
into this series. |
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| [Phantom A6] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:22:19 PM | |
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The original "plan" for the remasters series was
to get in the frist 10 studio albums from CBS/Sony
and the both live albums of the band.
It was the idea of CBS/Sony to get
"Living after midnight"
and
"Metal works '73 - '93"
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| [devils_child] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:20:12 PM | |
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Maybe it was re-released in the re-masters 2002.... Mine has the copyright written as 2002
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:17:27 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Hmmm...that is strange. But I don't think it fits with the other Remasters series. Living After Midnight was released in 1997 (according to wikipedia) and the remasters weren't released until 2001.
Pain and Pleasure-Judas Priest (whoops! wrong thread!) (Quoting Message by devils_child from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:11:48 PM)
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I'm talking about the one CD - Best of living after midnight... But that throws the others into question if this particualar CD part of that series is not approved by the band
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Wait...what?? The Remasters were not approved by JP??? When was this????? 
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I should say.... WHY was this not approved by JP?... when it was released by Columbia?
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Riiiiiiiight...... So what the hell is with the remasters series. -) the one with the silver lining and bonus tracks, released 2002...) was this not approved by JP?
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To add to the confusion (and anyone who knows "The Best of JP" already knows the problem in that it is both a classic yet released early in JP's career), Heavy Metal Painkillers (Popoff) lists only five "official Judas Priest compilations":
The Best of Judas Priest, Gull (Feb, '78)
Hero, Hero (Gull, '81)
Priest, Live and Rare (Epic, March '98)
Metal Works '73-'93 (Columbia, April '93)
Metalogy (Sony, May '04)
ALL endorsed by the band down to the artwork. Contractual fallout with Gull and Epic locked up some of their earlier work and led to the animosity between JP and Gull / Epic. Anything outside these five (save for foreign releases of the same album) were subcontracted out to lesser labels and had absolutely no band involvement save contractual agreements vis a vis the residual $. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:17:27 PM | |
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Hmmm...that is strange. But I don't think it fits with the other Remasters series. Living After Midnight was released in 1997 (according to wikipedia) and the remasters weren't released until 2001.
Pain and Pleasure-Judas Priest (whoops! wrong thread!) [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by devils_child from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:11:48 PM)
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I'm talking about the one CD - Best of living after midnight... But that throws the others into question if this particualar CD part of that series is not approved by the band
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Wait...what?? The Remasters were not approved by JP??? When was this?????
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I should say.... WHY was this not approved by JP?... when it was released by Columbia?
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Riiiiiiiight...... So what the hell is with the remasters series. -) the one with the silver lining and bonus tracks, released 2002...) was this not approved by JP?
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To add to the confusion (and anyone who knows "The Best of JP" already knows the problem in that it is both a classic yet released early in JP's career), Heavy Metal Painkillers (Popoff) lists only five "official Judas Priest compilations":
The Best of Judas Priest, Gull (Feb, '78)
Hero, Hero (Gull, '81)
Priest, Live and Rare (Epic, March '98)
Metal Works '73-'93 (Columbia, April '93)
Metalogy (Sony, May '04)
ALL endorsed by the band down to the artwork. Contractual fallout with Gull and Epic locked up some of their earlier work and led to the animosity between JP and Gull / Epic. Anything outside these five (save for foreign releases of the same album) were subcontracted out to lesser labels and had absolutely no band involvement save contractual agreements vis a vis the residual $. |
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| [Becks] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:12:09 PM | |
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| I hope that's not the case cos the CDs I've got are remaster series I bought them second hand from a dude lol. Any of their albums (bar British Steel and Nostradamus) are hard to find here. |
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| [devils_child] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:11:48 PM | |
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I'm talking about the one CD - Best of living after midnight... But that throws the others into question if this particualar CD part of that series is not approved by the band
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:09:51 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Wait...what?? The Remasters were not approved by JP??? When was this?????
| | | devils_child wrote: | | I should say.... WHY was this not approved by JP?... when it was released by Columbia?
| | | devils_child wrote: | | Riiiiiiiight...... So what the hell is with the remasters series. -) the one with the silver lining and bonus tracks, released 2002...) was this not approved by JP?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | To add to the confusion (and anyone who knows "The Best of JP" already knows the problem in that it is both a classic yet released early in JP's career), Heavy Metal Painkillers (Popoff) lists only five "official Judas Priest compilations":
The Best of Judas Priest, Gull (Feb, '78)
Hero, Hero (Gull, '81)
Priest, Live and Rare (Epic, March '98)
Metal Works '73-'93 (Columbia, April '93)
Metalogy (Sony, May '04)
ALL endorsed by the band down to the artwork. Contractual fallout with Gull and Epic locked up some of their earlier work and led to the animosity between JP and Gull / Epic. Anything outside these five (save for foreign releases of the same album) were subcontracted out to lesser labels and had absolutely no band involvement save contractual agreements vis a vis the residual $. |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:09:51 PM | |
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Wait...what?? The Remasters were not approved by JP??? When was this?????
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by devils_child from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:05:11 PM)| | | devils_child wrote: | | I should say.... WHY was this not approved by JP?... when it was released by Columbia?
| | | devils_child wrote: | | Riiiiiiiight...... So what the hell is with the remasters series. -) the one with the silver lining and bonus tracks, released 2002...) was this not approved by JP?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | To add to the confusion (and anyone who knows "The Best of JP" already knows the problem in that it is both a classic yet released early in JP's career), Heavy Metal Painkillers (Popoff) lists only five "official Judas Priest compilations":
The Best of Judas Priest, Gull (Feb, '78)
Hero, Hero (Gull, '81)
Priest, Live and Rare (Epic, March '98)
Metal Works '73-'93 (Columbia, April '93)
Metalogy (Sony, May '04)
ALL endorsed by the band down to the artwork. Contractual fallout with Gull and Epic locked up some of their earlier work and led to the animosity between JP and Gull / Epic. Anything outside these five (save for foreign releases of the same album) were subcontracted out to lesser labels and had absolutely no band involvement save contractual agreements vis a vis the residual $. |
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| [devils_child] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:05:11 PM | |
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I should say.... WHY was this not approved by JP?... when it was released by Columbia?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by devils_child from Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:03:59 PM)| | | devils_child wrote: | | Riiiiiiiight...... So what the hell is with the remasters series. -) the one with the silver lining and bonus tracks, released 2002...) was this not approved by JP?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | To add to the confusion (and anyone who knows "The Best of JP" already knows the problem in that it is both a classic yet released early in JP's career), Heavy Metal Painkillers (Popoff) lists only five "official Judas Priest compilations":
The Best of Judas Priest, Gull (Feb, '78)
Hero, Hero (Gull, '81)
Priest, Live and Rare (Epic, March '98)
Metal Works '73-'93 (Columbia, April '93)
Metalogy (Sony, May '04)
ALL endorsed by the band down to the artwork. Contractual fallout with Gull and Epic locked up some of their earlier work and led to the animosity between JP and Gull / Epic. Anything outside these five (save for foreign releases of the same album) were subcontracted out to lesser labels and had absolutely no band involvement save contractual agreements vis a vis the residual $. |
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| [devils_child] Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:03:59 PM | |
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Riiiiiiiight...... So what the hell is with the remasters series. -) the one with the silver lining and bonus tracks, released 2002...) was this not approved by JP?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:47:28 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | To add to the confusion (and anyone who knows "The Best of JP" already knows the problem in that it is both a classic yet released early in JP's career), Heavy Metal Painkillers (Popoff) lists only five "official Judas Priest compilations":
The Best of Judas Priest, Gull (Feb, '78)
Hero, Hero (Gull, '81)
Priest, Live and Rare (Epic, March '98)
Metal Works '73-'93 (Columbia, April '93)
Metalogy (Sony, May '04)
ALL endorsed by the band down to the artwork. Contractual fallout with Gull and Epic locked up some of their earlier work and led to the animosity between JP and Gull / Epic. Anything outside these five (save for foreign releases of the same album) were subcontracted out to lesser labels and had absolutely no band involvement save contractual agreements vis a vis the residual $. |
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