| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:20:58 AM | |
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What Sean Hannity has said over all this time is that Bush Jr was left with a deficit.. from the clinton ADM..
The deficit was 10 trillion when clinton took office.. From BUSH SR... Clinton managed to get it down to 6 trillion.. so when he left office.. the remaining deficit that BUSH JR took over was still from his fathers legacy..
And remeber clinton.. ran the US under a republican.. house/congress.
I personally dont care.. But you wanted a fact so Iam giving you one.. Please dont PM me with this stuff because I dont live in the USA anymore.. thank god..
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Double Whammy: 50-Year Record on Sept. 22. $10 Trillion on Sept. 30, 2008.
The gross national debt compared to GDP (how rich we are) reached its lowest level since 1931 as Reagan took office. It skyrocketed for 12 years through Bush I. Clinton reversed it at a peak of 67%. Bush II crossed that line on Sept. 22 and hit 69% on Sept 30. That's the highest it's been since 1955 (53 years ago).
Bush did three things to skyrocket the debt from $5.7 trillion to $10 trillion:
1. He lowered taxes on the rich (by far the biggest item).
2. He invaded Iraq instead of winning in Afghan-Pakistan (another $600 B).
3. He loosened controls on Wall Street.
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Painkiller1990 from Monday, October 13, 2008 9:32:28 PM)| |  | Painkiller1990 wrote: | | Sean Hannity is a liar? He's distorting the facts? I assume you can give a few good examples of this if you're going to make the accusation, right? I doubt you can so you'll just say it's not worth your time, but I hope you'll at least try.
As for FOX being a Republican network, let me remind you all that every cable news channel is liberal. CNN is very liberal, have been since Turner launched it.
MSNBC, PA-LEASE! They're the ANTI-FOX channel, which is why they have absolutely no ratings at all.
PBS is extremely liberal with people like Moyer and that Woman who just hosted the debate last week. She has a pro Obama book coming out on inauguration day... Totally liberal.
The big three are liberal too. CBS (Which O'Reilly beat in ratings) is in the tank for Obama. Remember Dan Blather? Lied, actually lied about GW's service record. Never did any checking for validation, just ran the story 52 days before the Presidential election.
The cute little video with these little girls singing to Obama, guess what, the head of imploding NBC was behind all of that, along with a few of Hollywood's camera men. But yeah, NBC's top exec was behind it.
ABC is the least offensive of the big three, but still offensive.
Lying is never rewarded with success when all of your truths are easilly checked and verified by an intrested public. This is why FOX is beating MSNBC and CNN combined every night, night after night. O'Reilly goes after both parties, Hannity and Combs give you each political ideological position, there's no masking any of it. Hannity is the second most listened to talk show in all of America, second only to Rush. There's a reason for that and it ain't because the audiences are loony right wing nutjobs. Rather, most listeners are pretty affluent, hard working people who want to know what's going on.
FOX news channel is by far the best source of information you can find anywhere on the dial, the best source of getting both sides of an issue
| | | MG_Metalgoddess wrote: | | I must now agree with SOY.. ( OMG i thought i would never say that)
Now living in Canada I enjoy not having to deal with the day to riddles of these selfish people and thier lives, that are in politics in the USA.. Its to bad that they have choosen two DOLTS.. to have to plaster on television to decide who is going to run that crumbling country,
Iam sorry but sean Hannity has more secrets to hide than Obama or Mcain.. He twists facts, and only presents half of the stories, leaving out almost all of the real facts.. that of which can be found on any goverment website..
I feel sorry for the USA.. Its too bad that people listen to these talking heads to make thier political decsions for them.. instead of listening to thier own hearts. and to do what is right by family and real life values.
thats it..
end of fucking list!
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Mark your calendars. This will probably stir the pot….
SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS,
IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA,
HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.
HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc.,
HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES!
HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.
THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.
HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~
HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN'S,
WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!!
EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR,
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY.
MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th.
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| [Painkiller1990] Monday, October 13, 2008 9:32:28 PM | |
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Sean Hannity is a liar? He's distorting the facts? I assume you can give a few good examples of this if you're going to make the accusation, right? I doubt you can so you'll just say it's not worth your time, but I hope you'll at least try.
As for FOX being a Republican network, let me remind you all that every cable news channel is liberal. CNN is very liberal, have been since Turner launched it.
MSNBC, PA-LEASE! They're the ANTI-FOX channel, which is why they have absolutely no ratings at all.
PBS is extremely liberal with people like Moyer and that Woman who just hosted the debate last week. She has a pro Obama book coming out on inauguration day... Totally liberal.
The big three are liberal too. CBS (Which O'Reilly beat in ratings) is in the tank for Obama. Remember Dan Blather? Lied, actually lied about GW's service record. Never did any checking for validation, just ran the story 52 days before the Presidential election.
The cute little video with these little girls singing to Obama, guess what, the head of imploding NBC was behind all of that, along with a few of Hollywood's camera men. But yeah, NBC's top exec was behind it.
ABC is the least offensive of the big three, but still offensive.
Lying is never rewarded with success when all of your truths are easilly checked and verified by an intrested public. This is why FOX is beating MSNBC and CNN combined every night, night after night. O'Reilly goes after both parties, Hannity and Combs give you each political ideological position, there's no masking any of it. Hannity is the second most listened to talk show in all of America, second only to Rush. There's a reason for that and it ain't because the audiences are loony right wing nutjobs. Rather, most listeners are pretty affluent, hard working people who want to know what's going on.
FOX news channel is by far the best source of information you can find anywhere on the dial, the best source of getting both sides of an issue
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:34:03 PM)| | | MG_Metalgoddess wrote: | | I must now agree with SOY.. ( OMG i thought i would never say that)
Now living in Canada I enjoy not having to deal with the day to riddles of these selfish people and thier lives, that are in politics in the USA.. Its to bad that they have choosen two DOLTS.. to have to plaster on television to decide who is going to run that crumbling country,
Iam sorry but sean Hannity has more secrets to hide than Obama or Mcain.. He twists facts, and only presents half of the stories, leaving out almost all of the real facts.. that of which can be found on any goverment website..
I feel sorry for the USA.. Its too bad that people listen to these talking heads to make thier political decsions for them.. instead of listening to thier own hearts. and to do what is right by family and real life values.
thats it..
end of fucking list!
| | | Healer wrote: | | |
Mark your calendars. This will probably stir the pot….
SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS,
IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA,
HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.
HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc.,
HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES!
HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.
THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.
HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~
HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN'S,
WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!!
EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR,
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY.
MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th.
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| [Head banger] Monday, October 13, 2008 9:21:04 PM | |
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good, you can come, and bring more like you. I also think there should be a 2 year wait for welfare or any govt assistance.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by WhiskeyWoman from Monday, October 13, 2008 2:05:41 PM)| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | I'm really glad to hear that HB...
'coz I'm a fairly decent, hard-working immigrant!
Lol...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, the latest gang shooting in Calgary was between 2 gangs from ottawa. of course they are probably imigrants who went to ottawa before learning there is more cash here. we should deport all criminals who are in the process of or have imigrated here in the last 2 years. just kick them out. no serving a sentance, send them home. I know lots of imigrants who are decent hard working people, thats the ones we need to keep.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Good one...
And, d'ya remember recently...? Some MP got in 'hot-water' for saying it like it is, but everyone has to be so PC these days that it's getting absurd. He said, "Well, look around. Most of the crimes being committed are not being committed by the kid who grew up next door." Ouch. But, it's kind of true... more gangs in our cities that are not Canadian...
Can't even tell the truth these days. 
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I dont mind people doing all kinds of things, speaking what they want, but when I have to pay to have some damn govt form translated, thats crap. if I have to fund their traditions, they must not mean much. if it did, they would fund it. and if their traditions include threatening the police with a machette, then get used to trial by glock. otherwise, go somewhere beter.
with all the bitching their must be places beter.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Morning HB... Sorry to hear of your plight last night. Nyquil is too chemical for me...  (like to keep it natural) -- from a can (no shit). Call me...
Just commenting on your 'please speak English' subject that touches on others that we deal with here in Canada where a lot of our laws have been 'modified', to accommodate other cultures -- which should be a good thing. But, when 'guests' come to this country demanding and expecting us to change our ways for them, it turns into something else.
A few years ago, Australia caught all kinds of flak when the Prime Minister issued a statement that (loosely) said... (I've since lost the emailed speech in some pc crash, so maybe our Aussie friend's can chime in) ...
"This is our country, we will respect your cultures and religions, but you must respect ours first. Basically, if you don't like it here, the way it is, another freedom we have -- is the right to leave." lol...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [Head banger] Monday, October 13, 2008 9:20:09 PM | |
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and getting sent back to the USA is a picnic compared to where some of these nuts come from.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Monday, October 13, 2008 5:57:26 PM)| | | MG_Metalgoddess wrote: | | I agree.. with HB.. You cannot get in the country with a felony on your record.. you have to wait 10 years and then go infront of a board and hope they pardon you, in order to get resident or citizen status.. SO once you are allready here it should be no different.. If you committ a crime you should be sent back. .. That is what they told me.. When I got my perm resident card.. that even though I have no prior.. record.. If I get arrested of committ a felony under Canadian law they can deport me back to the usa.. I was like OMG.. And I do-not want to go back to the USA.. that would be a prison sentence in itself..
| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, the latest gang shooting in Calgary was between 2 gangs from ottawa. of course they are probably imigrants who went to ottawa before learning there is more cash here. we should deport all criminals who are in the process of or have imigrated here in the last 2 years. just kick them out. no serving a sentance, send them home. I know lots of imigrants who are decent hard working people, thats the ones we need to keep.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Good one...
And, d'ya remember recently...? Some MP got in 'hot-water' for saying it like it is, but everyone has to be so PC these days that it's getting absurd. He said, "Well, look around. Most of the crimes being committed are not being committed by the kid who grew up next door." Ouch. But, it's kind of true... more gangs in our cities that are not Canadian...
Can't even tell the truth these days.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I dont mind people doing all kinds of things, speaking what they want, but when I have to pay to have some damn govt form translated, thats crap. if I have to fund their traditions, they must not mean much. if it did, they would fund it. and if their traditions include threatening the police with a machette, then get used to trial by glock. otherwise, go somewhere beter.
with all the bitching their must be places beter.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Morning HB... Sorry to hear of your plight last night. Nyquil is too chemical for me... (like to keep it natural) -- from a can (no shit). Call me...
Just commenting on your 'please speak English' subject that touches on others that we deal with here in Canada where a lot of our laws have been 'modified', to accommodate other cultures -- which should be a good thing. But, when 'guests' come to this country demanding and expecting us to change our ways for them, it turns into something else.
A few years ago, Australia caught all kinds of flak when the Prime Minister issued a statement that (loosely) said... (I've since lost the emailed speech in some pc crash, so maybe our Aussie friend's can chime in) ...
"This is our country, we will respect your cultures and religions, but you must respect ours first. Basically, if you don't like it here, the way it is, another freedom we have -- is the right to leave." lol...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Monday, October 13, 2008 7:14:40 PM | |
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HERE'S HOPING EVERYONE THAT'S ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THIS COUNTRY DOES SO.........
REMEMBER...YA' CAN'T COMPLAIN,IF YOU DON'T VOTE!...
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Monday, October 13, 2008 6:57:24 PM | |
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OK THEN...NOW STOP IT,YOURE MAKIN' ME ALL MISTY-EYED...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Monday, October 13, 2008 5:59:38 PM)| | | MG_Metalgoddess wrote: | | Aaaawwww Soy you know you are still my little LOONIE.....
who loves ya baby...... I do.............
HUgs
MG~
| | | Soylentgreen4u wrote: | |  "NOW JUST WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?"...(OMG I THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT)...     .....WHYYYYYYYYYYYY OHHHHH WHYYYYYY MUST YOU BE SOOOOOOO GODDAMN MEAN TO ME?!!!!!!.....
| | | MG_Metalgoddess wrote: | | I must now agree with SOY.. ( OMG i thought i would never say that)
Now living in Canada I enjoy not having to deal with the day to riddles of these selfish people and thier lives, that are in politics in the USA.. Its to bad that they have choosen two DOLTS.. to have to plaster on television to decide who is going to run that crumbling country,
Iam sorry but sean Hannity has more secrets to hide than Obama or Mcain.. He twists facts, and only presents half of the stories, leaving out almost all of the real facts.. that of which can be found on any goverment website..
I feel sorry for the USA.. Its too bad that people listen to these talking heads to make thier political decsions for them.. instead of listening to thier own hearts. and to do what is right by family and real life values.
thats it..
end of fucking list!
| | | Healer wrote: | | |
Mark your calendars. This will probably stir the pot….
SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS,
IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA,
HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.
HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc.,
HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES!
HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.
THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.
HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~
HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN'S,
WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!!
EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR,
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY.
MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th.
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, October 13, 2008 5:59:38 PM | |
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Aaaawwww Soy you know you are still my little LOONIE.....
who loves ya baby...... I do.............
HUgs
MG~
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u from Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:58:16 PM)| | | Soylentgreen4u wrote: | | "NOW JUST WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?"...(OMG I THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT)........WHYYYYYYYYYYYY OHHHHH WHYYYYYY MUST YOU BE SOOOOOOO GODDAMN MEAN TO ME?!!!!!!.....
| | | MG_Metalgoddess wrote: | | I must now agree with SOY.. ( OMG i thought i would never say that)
Now living in Canada I enjoy not having to deal with the day to riddles of these selfish people and thier lives, that are in politics in the USA.. Its to bad that they have choosen two DOLTS.. to have to plaster on television to decide who is going to run that crumbling country,
Iam sorry but sean Hannity has more secrets to hide than Obama or Mcain.. He twists facts, and only presents half of the stories, leaving out almost all of the real facts.. that of which can be found on any goverment website..
I feel sorry for the USA.. Its too bad that people listen to these talking heads to make thier political decsions for them.. instead of listening to thier own hearts. and to do what is right by family and real life values.
thats it..
end of fucking list!
| | | Healer wrote: | | |
Mark your calendars. This will probably stir the pot….
SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS,
IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA,
HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.
HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc.,
HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES!
HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.
THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.
HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~
HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN'S,
WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!!
EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR,
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY.
MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th.
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, October 13, 2008 5:57:26 PM | |
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I agree.. with HB.. You cannot get in the country with a felony on your record.. you have to wait 10 years and then go infront of a board and hope they pardon you, in order to get resident or citizen status.. SO once you are allready here it should be no different.. If you committ a crime you should be sent back. .. That is what they told me.. When I got my perm resident card.. that even though I have no prior.. record.. If I get arrested of committ a felony under Canadian law they can deport me back to the usa.. I was like OMG.. And I do-not want to go back to the USA.. that would be a prison sentence in itself..
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, October 13, 2008 1:45:46 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, the latest gang shooting in Calgary was between 2 gangs from ottawa. of course they are probably imigrants who went to ottawa before learning there is more cash here. we should deport all criminals who are in the process of or have imigrated here in the last 2 years. just kick them out. no serving a sentance, send them home. I know lots of imigrants who are decent hard working people, thats the ones we need to keep.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Good one...
And, d'ya remember recently...? Some MP got in 'hot-water' for saying it like it is, but everyone has to be so PC these days that it's getting absurd. He said, "Well, look around. Most of the crimes being committed are not being committed by the kid who grew up next door." Ouch. But, it's kind of true... more gangs in our cities that are not Canadian...
Can't even tell the truth these days.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I dont mind people doing all kinds of things, speaking what they want, but when I have to pay to have some damn govt form translated, thats crap. if I have to fund their traditions, they must not mean much. if it did, they would fund it. and if their traditions include threatening the police with a machette, then get used to trial by glock. otherwise, go somewhere beter.
with all the bitching their must be places beter.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Morning HB... Sorry to hear of your plight last night. Nyquil is too chemical for me... (like to keep it natural) -- from a can (no shit). Call me...
Just commenting on your 'please speak English' subject that touches on others that we deal with here in Canada where a lot of our laws have been 'modified', to accommodate other cultures -- which should be a good thing. But, when 'guests' come to this country demanding and expecting us to change our ways for them, it turns into something else.
A few years ago, Australia caught all kinds of flak when the Prime Minister issued a statement that (loosely) said... (I've since lost the emailed speech in some pc crash, so maybe our Aussie friend's can chime in) ...
"This is our country, we will respect your cultures and religions, but you must respect ours first. Basically, if you don't like it here, the way it is, another freedom we have -- is the right to leave." lol...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [WhiskeyWoman] Monday, October 13, 2008 2:05:41 PM | |
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I'm really glad to hear that HB...
'coz I'm a fairly decent, hard-working immigrant!
Lol...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, October 13, 2008 1:45:46 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, the latest gang shooting in Calgary was between 2 gangs from ottawa. of course they are probably imigrants who went to ottawa before learning there is more cash here. we should deport all criminals who are in the process of or have imigrated here in the last 2 years. just kick them out. no serving a sentance, send them home. I know lots of imigrants who are decent hard working people, thats the ones we need to keep.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Good one...
And, d'ya remember recently...? Some MP got in 'hot-water' for saying it like it is, but everyone has to be so PC these days that it's getting absurd. He said, "Well, look around. Most of the crimes being committed are not being committed by the kid who grew up next door." Ouch. But, it's kind of true... more gangs in our cities that are not Canadian...
Can't even tell the truth these days.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I dont mind people doing all kinds of things, speaking what they want, but when I have to pay to have some damn govt form translated, thats crap. if I have to fund their traditions, they must not mean much. if it did, they would fund it. and if their traditions include threatening the police with a machette, then get used to trial by glock. otherwise, go somewhere beter.
with all the bitching their must be places beter.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Morning HB... Sorry to hear of your plight last night. Nyquil is too chemical for me... (like to keep it natural) -- from a can (no shit). Call me...
Just commenting on your 'please speak English' subject that touches on others that we deal with here in Canada where a lot of our laws have been 'modified', to accommodate other cultures -- which should be a good thing. But, when 'guests' come to this country demanding and expecting us to change our ways for them, it turns into something else.
A few years ago, Australia caught all kinds of flak when the Prime Minister issued a statement that (loosely) said... (I've since lost the emailed speech in some pc crash, so maybe our Aussie friend's can chime in) ...
"This is our country, we will respect your cultures and religions, but you must respect ours first. Basically, if you don't like it here, the way it is, another freedom we have -- is the right to leave." lol...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [Head banger] Monday, October 13, 2008 1:45:46 PM | |
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well, the latest gang shooting in Calgary was between 2 gangs from ottawa. of course they are probably imigrants who went to ottawa before learning there is more cash here. we should deport all criminals who are in the process of or have imigrated here in the last 2 years. just kick them out. no serving a sentance, send them home. I know lots of imigrants who are decent hard working people, thats the ones we need to keep.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by WhiskeyWoman from Monday, October 13, 2008 11:52:45 AM)| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Good one...
And, d'ya remember recently...? Some MP got in 'hot-water' for saying it like it is, but everyone has to be so PC these days that it's getting absurd. He said, "Well, look around. Most of the crimes being committed are not being committed by the kid who grew up next door." Ouch. But, it's kind of true... more gangs in our cities that are not Canadian...
Can't even tell the truth these days.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I dont mind people doing all kinds of things, speaking what they want, but when I have to pay to have some damn govt form translated, thats crap. if I have to fund their traditions, they must not mean much. if it did, they would fund it. and if their traditions include threatening the police with a machette, then get used to trial by glock. otherwise, go somewhere beter.
with all the bitching their must be places beter.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Morning HB... Sorry to hear of your plight last night. Nyquil is too chemical for me... (like to keep it natural) -- from a can (no shit). Call me...
Just commenting on your 'please speak English' subject that touches on others that we deal with here in Canada where a lot of our laws have been 'modified', to accommodate other cultures -- which should be a good thing. But, when 'guests' come to this country demanding and expecting us to change our ways for them, it turns into something else.
A few years ago, Australia caught all kinds of flak when the Prime Minister issued a statement that (loosely) said... (I've since lost the emailed speech in some pc crash, so maybe our Aussie friend's can chime in) ...
"This is our country, we will respect your cultures and religions, but you must respect ours first. Basically, if you don't like it here, the way it is, another freedom we have -- is the right to leave." lol...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [WhiskeyWoman] Monday, October 13, 2008 11:52:45 AM | |
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Good one...
And, d'ya remember recently...? Some MP got in 'hot-water' for saying it like it is, but everyone has to be so PC these days that it's getting absurd. He said, "Well, look around. Most of the crimes being committed are not being committed by the kid who grew up next door." Ouch. But, it's kind of true... more gangs in our cities that are not Canadian...
Can't even tell the truth these days.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, October 13, 2008 11:39:15 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | I dont mind people doing all kinds of things, speaking what they want, but when I have to pay to have some damn govt form translated, thats crap. if I have to fund their traditions, they must not mean much. if it did, they would fund it. and if their traditions include threatening the police with a machette, then get used to trial by glock. otherwise, go somewhere beter.
with all the bitching their must be places beter.
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Morning HB... Sorry to hear of your plight last night. Nyquil is too chemical for me... (like to keep it natural) -- from a can (no shit). Call me...
Just commenting on your 'please speak English' subject that touches on others that we deal with here in Canada where a lot of our laws have been 'modified', to accommodate other cultures -- which should be a good thing. But, when 'guests' come to this country demanding and expecting us to change our ways for them, it turns into something else.
A few years ago, Australia caught all kinds of flak when the Prime Minister issued a statement that (loosely) said... (I've since lost the emailed speech in some pc crash, so maybe our Aussie friend's can chime in) ...
"This is our country, we will respect your cultures and religions, but you must respect ours first. Basically, if you don't like it here, the way it is, another freedom we have -- is the right to leave." lol...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [Head banger] Monday, October 13, 2008 11:39:15 AM | |
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I dont mind people doing all kinds of things, speaking what they want, but when I have to pay to have some damn govt form translated, thats crap. if I have to fund their traditions, they must not mean much. if it did, they would fund it. and if their traditions include threatening the police with a machette, then get used to trial by glock. otherwise, go somewhere beter.
with all the bitching their must be places beter.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by WhiskeyWoman from Monday, October 13, 2008 9:49:09 AM)| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Morning HB... Sorry to hear of your plight last night. Nyquil is too chemical for me... (like to keep it natural) -- from a can (no shit). Call me...
Just commenting on your 'please speak English' subject that touches on others that we deal with here in Canada where a lot of our laws have been 'modified', to accommodate other cultures -- which should be a good thing. But, when 'guests' come to this country demanding and expecting us to change our ways for them, it turns into something else.
A few years ago, Australia caught all kinds of flak when the Prime Minister issued a statement that (loosely) said... (I've since lost the emailed speech in some pc crash, so maybe our Aussie friend's can chime in) ...
"This is our country, we will respect your cultures and religions, but you must respect ours first. Basically, if you don't like it here, the way it is, another freedom we have -- is the right to leave." lol...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [WhiskeyWoman] Monday, October 13, 2008 9:49:09 AM | |
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Morning HB... Sorry to hear of your plight last night. Nyquil is too chemical for me... (like to keep it natural) -- from a can (no shit). Call me...
Just commenting on your 'please speak English' subject that touches on others that we deal with here in Canada where a lot of our laws have been 'modified', to accommodate other cultures -- which should be a good thing. But, when 'guests' come to this country demanding and expecting us to change our ways for them, it turns into something else.
A few years ago, Australia caught all kinds of flak when the Prime Minister issued a statement that (loosely) said... (I've since lost the emailed speech in some pc crash, so maybe our Aussie friend's can chime in) ...
"This is our country, we will respect your cultures and religions, but you must respect ours first. Basically, if you don't like it here, the way it is, another freedom we have -- is the right to leave." lol...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, October 13, 2008 9:21:50 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [WhiskeyWoman] Monday, October 13, 2008 9:36:26 AM | |
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Good Morning everyone!
Imagine, people getting tested before having kidz, or serving on a jury? They'd be no kids and a back-log in the courts! lol...
"Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until you hear them speak."(Don't know who said that, aside from my Grandpa... but I always liked that one.)
All I know is, I *don't* want a carbon-tax imposed on us in this country... it is so very wrong.
And, I am just hoping that those to the south of us can vote smarter this time... Obviously, things aren't working the way they should be under their current leadership, such as it is.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, October 13, 2008 8:55:20 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [Head banger] Monday, October 13, 2008 9:21:50 AM | |
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I guess people get what they deserve. we will elect a new minority govt on tuesday, and will acomplish nothing. there is no way to effect change, even if that were a goal of a govt with a minority.
yes, english would be nice. I read that criminals in the states (and here too) have the right to have their trial translated into their own language. OK, shouldnt be much of an issue. then I read that 37 states employ translators for Klingon. WTF? what are the odds that someone who can speak Klingon a) found their way oyut of mommys basement to comit said crime, and b) doesnt speak english also?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, October 13, 2008 9:14:06 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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All very valid points, HB. I agree with you. I realize it will not happen but it certainly should. I am also against drivers that cannot read the language of the realm. If you live here, speak English (how ever poorly) and read it as well. As for credit, let's just say that I abhor it. I loath it. It is the single most common factor in financial destruction. I should probably stop as I will get on another rant.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, October 13, 2008 8:55:20 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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Ah, but then we would also need to test peoples knowledge and inteligence for such things as having children, serving on a jury. perhaps also we could give a decent test of thoughts for credit. no, lets not get into credit. or driving, where do these fools get their licences, a crackerjack box? we should periodicaly re test them too.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Monday, October 13, 2008 7:59:24 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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I have made it a point to remain quiet regarding politics since my return. As we get closer to November, the rhetoric gets worse and facts become blurred by nonsense and pointless argument.
The truly unfortunate fact of the matter is the public at large are the "morons", not the candidiates. The political folks simply do what they do. It is really up to the people to think about what they are doing and cast a vote accordingly. Worse, the majority of the voting public would not know an issue from a tissue and would wipe their collective butts with it ( to borrow loosely from Lou Reed)
It has long been my opinion that NO ONE under thirty should be allowed to vote. (I realize the younger crowd on the Board are lighting the barbeque now to roast me) Quite frankly, EVERYONE should have to pass a civics exam prior to getting a voting card. The public, in general, have NO idea what they are doing, which is why the likes of an Obama or a Hillary get a chance in the first place. There, I said it.
The system is not going to change. The word change has been tossed about all election long, like there is suddenly this revelation among the population, courtesy of some clown campaigning for office, and they all suddenly 'get it' and will forge bravely into a new future. Bah!! Not going to happen. The change is NOT needed in government, it is needed in the public. That is where the problem is and will continue to be.
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:58:16 PM | |
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"NOW JUST WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?"...(OMG I THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT)........WHYYYYYYYYYYYY OHHHHH WHYYYYYY MUST YOU BE SOOOOOOO GODDAMN MEAN TO ME?!!!!!!.....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MG_Metalgoddess from Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:34:03 PM)| | | MG_Metalgoddess wrote: | | I must now agree with SOY.. ( OMG i thought i would never say that)
Now living in Canada I enjoy not having to deal with the day to riddles of these selfish people and thier lives, that are in politics in the USA.. Its to bad that they have choosen two DOLTS.. to have to plaster on television to decide who is going to run that crumbling country,
Iam sorry but sean Hannity has more secrets to hide than Obama or Mcain.. He twists facts, and only presents half of the stories, leaving out almost all of the real facts.. that of which can be found on any goverment website..
I feel sorry for the USA.. Its too bad that people listen to these talking heads to make thier political decsions for them.. instead of listening to thier own hearts. and to do what is right by family and real life values.
thats it..
end of fucking list!
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Mark your calendars. This will probably stir the pot….
SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS,
IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA,
HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.
HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc.,
HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES!
HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.
THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.
HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~
HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN'S,
WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!!
EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR,
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY.
MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th.
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I must now agree with SOY.. ( OMG i thought i would never say that)
Now living in Canada I enjoy not having to deal with the day to riddles of these selfish people and thier lives, that are in politics in the USA.. Its to bad that they have choosen two DOLTS.. to have to plaster on television to decide who is going to run that crumbling country,
Iam sorry but sean Hannity has more secrets to hide than Obama or Mcain.. He twists facts, and only presents half of the stories, leaving out almost all of the real facts.. that of which can be found on any goverment website..
I feel sorry for the USA.. Its too bad that people listen to these talking heads to make thier political decsions for them.. instead of listening to thier own hearts. and to do what is right by family and real life values.
thats it..
end of fucking list!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Healer from Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:12:22 PM)| | | Healer wrote: | | |
Mark your calendars. This will probably stir the pot….
SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS,
IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA,
HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.
HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc.,
HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES!
HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.
THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.
HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~
HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN'S,
WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!!
EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR,
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.
THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY.
MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th.
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