| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, October 08, 2010 9:02:11 PM | |
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I agree Hellrider. Why is it that Priest and Rob always seem to get screwed no matter how great the album is? There are people that just rip it apart and don't give them the credit they deserve. It seriously pisses me off!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, October 08, 2010 6:47:53 PM)| |  | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | whats wrong with MADE OF METAL I ENJOY MOST OF IT VERY MUCH ALOT OF CLASSIC METAL SOUND ON IT i would much perfer HARD CORE RIP OUR FACE OFF THOUGH.personally i believe it does not matter how worthy the album is he allways seems to get fuc?ed (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, October 08, 2010 3:00:48 PM)
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Maybe if he put out a studio album that was more worthy than 'Made Of Metal" he might get a stronger following. 
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HOW IS HE SUPPOST TO FOCUS ON PRIEST WHEN HE HAS OTHER METAL GOING ON IN HIS HEAD..HIS BAND IS ALSO A OUTLET FOR HIM..HE CAN DO HIS METAL AND CLEAR HIS MIND FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT HE GIVEN HIS FANS AND VISE VERSA AND THEN BE ABLE TO FOCUS FULLY ON PRIEST. BE IN THE RIGHT MINDSET
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| [hellrider 31038] Friday, October 08, 2010 6:47:53 PM | |
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whats wrong with MADE OF METAL I ENJOY MOST OF IT VERY MUCH ALOT OF CLASSIC METAL SOUND ON IT i would much perfer HARD CORE RIP OUR FACE OFF THOUGH.personally i believe it does not matter how worthy the album is he allways seems to get fuc?ed [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, October 08, 2010 3:00:48 PM)
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Maybe if he put out a studio album that was more worthy than 'Made Of Metal" he might get a stronger following.
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HOW IS HE SUPPOST TO FOCUS ON PRIEST WHEN HE HAS OTHER METAL GOING ON IN HIS HEAD..HIS BAND IS ALSO A OUTLET FOR HIM..HE CAN DO HIS METAL AND CLEAR HIS MIND FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT HE GIVEN HIS FANS AND VISE VERSA AND THEN BE ABLE TO FOCUS FULLY ON PRIEST. BE IN THE RIGHT MINDSET
MAYBE IF THE METAL GOD HAD A STRONGER FOLLOWING WE WOULD BE GETTING FULL ON CRUCIBLE STYLE METAL |
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| [guidogodoy] Friday, October 08, 2010 5:28:04 PM | |
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THAT'LL teach you to have rugrats!
Just trying to get a good shot of Lachman is really a tough thing as he just headbangs the entire time! Badass axe-man, through and through. Notice who is singing.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, October 08, 2010 5:16:55 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | sniff...sniff.... . Sure, rub it in Guido! I should have timed my babies better! I can only imagine how great that show must have been. I would have gone to see them at the Orbit Room in G.R. too damn it! Nice pic though, THANKS!
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Why you CAN see them...HERE! Lachman at "Harpos" - Detroit. Helluva show.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I didn't want to mention that I got a Bon Jovi vibe from Thunder and Lightening for fear that Ron H. would KILL me!  But immediately when I heard that song, that's what I thought too. I also got a little feeling when listening to certain songs which reminded me of U2, Lynard Skynard and (J.D. is gonna kill me!) Saxon. Hell Razor just really reminds me of how Biff sings and pronunciates his words. I'm not saying that the song sounds anything like Saxon, just the vocal style reminds me of Biff singing.
I'm not surprised by Rob writing songs about sports, he did it before with "One Will" which is about pro basketball. I'm not a NASCAR fan or an MMA fan so, those songs although musically I like them, just don't do it for me. I don't think he wrote those songs in order to be played at sporting events. I think he began writing them because he loved the sport, but then perhaps he did think about them becoming anthems and made them more crowd friendly. I hope they are played, I'd love to see Rob finally get the recognition that he deserves! As for Matador, I think of that song as a story about a man that had given up on life but then his life canged. Do they even play rock n roll/metal music before Bull Fights? I wouldn't know. I don't think anyone would even think twice about that song if he hadn't already included songs about MMA and NASCAR on the album.
I do think that most of the choruses seem to have been written for crowd participation - like all the '80s hair band songs.
The songs I find myself listening to over and over again are: Speed of Sound, Like There's No Tomorrow, Till the Day I Die and The Mower. Those are my favorites. I love how Rob sings on this album and for me, vocals have always been the most important thing in a song since I love to sing. I'm sure that others that play different instruments feel the same about whatever they play.
I do like this album. But I agree, maybe Z. got a little too close to it playing as well as producing it? Pat was part of the writing team on the first two albums, so I'm sure they lost something. Guido, I only WISH I could have seen them back on the Resurrection tour....
Just my take on it.
| | | tasnam1 wrote: | | Thanks guidogodoy - we seem to think alike.
Heartless seems to have "soul", and is a MUCH better Heart of a Lion. Although the name is almost cheesy.
Heartless, Fire and Ice, Thunder and Lightnight - Sound like I and reading off an 80's record.
Heartless - "walking the streets now baby" ????? Rob can do better than that
Thunder and lightning after the guitar intro listen to it and then listen to Bon Jovi - You give Love a bad name intro.
Anyhow these are the thoughts.
Not saying I dislike the album.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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| i realized i was listening to halford 4 hoping for another resurrection or crucible album and maybe not giving the album the chance it deserves !!! i caught myself today turning up most of the cd , i just cant get past the lyrics on made of metal yet and undisputed or the matador but the rest is catching on. i will be more positive in hearing this cd from now on and can maybe learn to like it more , ps mine was bought not stolen budred lol |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, October 08, 2010 5:16:55 PM | |
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sniff...sniff..... Sure, rub it in Guido! I should have timed my babies better! I can only imagine how great that show must have been. I would have gone to see them at the Orbit Room in G.R. too damn it! Nice pic though, THANKS!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, October 08, 2010 5:03:42 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Why you CAN see them...HERE! Lachman at "Harpos" - Detroit. Helluva show.
| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I didn't want to mention that I got a Bon Jovi vibe from Thunder and Lightening for fear that Ron H. would KILL me! But immediately when I heard that song, that's what I thought too. I also got a little feeling when listening to certain songs which reminded me of U2, Lynard Skynard and (J.D. is gonna kill me!) Saxon. Hell Razor just really reminds me of how Biff sings and pronunciates his words. I'm not saying that the song sounds anything like Saxon, just the vocal style reminds me of Biff singing.
I'm not surprised by Rob writing songs about sports, he did it before with "One Will" which is about pro basketball. I'm not a NASCAR fan or an MMA fan so, those songs although musically I like them, just don't do it for me. I don't think he wrote those songs in order to be played at sporting events. I think he began writing them because he loved the sport, but then perhaps he did think about them becoming anthems and made them more crowd friendly. I hope they are played, I'd love to see Rob finally get the recognition that he deserves! As for Matador, I think of that song as a story about a man that had given up on life but then his life canged. Do they even play rock n roll/metal music before Bull Fights? I wouldn't know. I don't think anyone would even think twice about that song if he hadn't already included songs about MMA and NASCAR on the album.
I do think that most of the choruses seem to have been written for crowd participation - like all the '80s hair band songs.
The songs I find myself listening to over and over again are: Speed of Sound, Like There's No Tomorrow, Till the Day I Die and The Mower. Those are my favorites. I love how Rob sings on this album and for me, vocals have always been the most important thing in a song since I love to sing. I'm sure that others that play different instruments feel the same about whatever they play.
I do like this album. But I agree, maybe Z. got a little too close to it playing as well as producing it? Pat was part of the writing team on the first two albums, so I'm sure they lost something. Guido, I only WISH I could have seen them back on the Resurrection tour....
Just my take on it.
| | | tasnam1 wrote: | | Thanks guidogodoy - we seem to think alike.
Heartless seems to have "soul", and is a MUCH better Heart of a Lion. Although the name is almost cheesy.
Heartless, Fire and Ice, Thunder and Lightnight - Sound like I and reading off an 80's record.
Heartless - "walking the streets now baby" ????? Rob can do better than that
Thunder and lightning after the guitar intro listen to it and then listen to Bon Jovi - You give Love a bad name intro.
Anyhow these are the thoughts.
Not saying I dislike the album.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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Budred wrote: |
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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| i realized i was listening to halford 4 hoping for another resurrection or crucible album and maybe not giving the album the chance it deserves !!! i caught myself today turning up most of the cd , i just cant get past the lyrics on made of metal yet and undisputed or the matador but the rest is catching on. i will be more positive in hearing this cd from now on and can maybe learn to like it more , ps mine was bought not stolen budred lol |
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| [guidogodoy] Friday, October 08, 2010 5:03:42 PM | |
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Why you CAN see them...HERE! Lachman at "Harpos" - Detroit. Helluva show.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Friday, October 08, 2010 2:15:49 PM)| | | HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote: | | I didn't want to mention that I got a Bon Jovi vibe from Thunder and Lightening for fear that Ron H. would KILL me! But immediately when I heard that song, that's what I thought too. I also got a little feeling when listening to certain songs which reminded me of U2, Lynard Skynard and (J.D. is gonna kill me!) Saxon. Hell Razor just really reminds me of how Biff sings and pronunciates his words. I'm not saying that the song sounds anything like Saxon, just the vocal style reminds me of Biff singing.
I'm not surprised by Rob writing songs about sports, he did it before with "One Will" which is about pro basketball. I'm not a NASCAR fan or an MMA fan so, those songs although musically I like them, just don't do it for me. I don't think he wrote those songs in order to be played at sporting events. I think he began writing them because he loved the sport, but then perhaps he did think about them becoming anthems and made them more crowd friendly. I hope they are played, I'd love to see Rob finally get the recognition that he deserves! As for Matador, I think of that song as a story about a man that had given up on life but then his life canged. Do they even play rock n roll/metal music before Bull Fights? I wouldn't know. I don't think anyone would even think twice about that song if he hadn't already included songs about MMA and NASCAR on the album.
I do think that most of the choruses seem to have been written for crowd participation - like all the '80s hair band songs.
The songs I find myself listening to over and over again are: Speed of Sound, Like There's No Tomorrow, Till the Day I Die and The Mower. Those are my favorites. I love how Rob sings on this album and for me, vocals have always been the most important thing in a song since I love to sing. I'm sure that others that play different instruments feel the same about whatever they play.
I do like this album. But I agree, maybe Z. got a little too close to it playing as well as producing it? Pat was part of the writing team on the first two albums, so I'm sure they lost something. Guido, I only WISH I could have seen them back on the Resurrection tour....
Just my take on it.
| | | tasnam1 wrote: | | Thanks guidogodoy - we seem to think alike.
Heartless seems to have "soul", and is a MUCH better Heart of a Lion. Although the name is almost cheesy.
Heartless, Fire and Ice, Thunder and Lightnight - Sound like I and reading off an 80's record.
Heartless - "walking the streets now baby" ????? Rob can do better than that
Thunder and lightning after the guitar intro listen to it and then listen to Bon Jovi - You give Love a bad name intro.
Anyhow these are the thoughts.
Not saying I dislike the album.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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Budred wrote: |
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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| i realized i was listening to halford 4 hoping for another resurrection or crucible album and maybe not giving the album the chance it deserves !!! i caught myself today turning up most of the cd , i just cant get past the lyrics on made of metal yet and undisputed or the matador but the rest is catching on. i will be more positive in hearing this cd from now on and can maybe learn to like it more , ps mine was bought not stolen budred lol |
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| [K2M] Friday, October 08, 2010 4:27:20 PM | |
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Roy Z. annoys me. Behind the back guitar at the show. Just Hit the notes.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:53:13 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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| i realized i was listening to halford 4 hoping for another resurrection or crucible album and maybe not giving the album the chance it deserves !!! i caught myself today turning up most of the cd , i just cant get past the lyrics on made of metal yet and undisputed or the matador but the rest is catching on. i will be more positive in hearing this cd from now on and can maybe learn to like it more , ps mine was bought not stolen budred lol |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 08, 2010 3:00:48 PM | |
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Maybe if he put out a studio album that was more worthy than 'Made Of Metal" he might get a stronger following.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Friday, October 08, 2010 2:49:49 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | HOW IS HE SUPPOST TO FOCUS ON PRIEST WHEN HE HAS OTHER METAL GOING ON IN HIS HEAD..HIS BAND IS ALSO A OUTLET FOR HIM..HE CAN DO HIS METAL AND CLEAR HIS MIND FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT HE GIVEN HIS FANS AND VISE VERSA AND THEN BE ABLE TO FOCUS FULLY ON PRIEST. BE IN THE RIGHT MINDSET
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HOW IS HE SUPPOST TO FOCUS ON PRIEST WHEN HE HAS OTHER METAL GOING ON IN HIS HEAD..HIS BAND IS ALSO A OUTLET FOR HIM..HE CAN DO HIS METAL AND CLEAR HIS MIND FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT HE GIVEN HIS FANS AND VISE VERSA AND THEN BE ABLE TO FOCUS FULLY ON PRIEST. BE IN THE RIGHT MINDSET
MAYBE IF THE METAL GOD HAD A STRONGER FOLLOWING WE WOULD BE GETTING FULL ON CRUCIBLE STYLE METAL |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, October 08, 2010 2:15:49 PM | |
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I didn't want to mention that I got a Bon Jovi vibe from Thunder and Lightening for fear that Ron H. would KILL me! But immediately when I heard that song, that's what I thought too. I also got a little feeling when listening to certain songs which reminded me of U2, Lynard Skynard and (J.D. is gonna kill me!) Saxon. Hell Razor just really reminds me of how Biff sings and pronunciates his words. I'm not saying that the song sounds anything like Saxon, just the vocal style reminds me of Biff singing.
I'm not surprised by Rob writing songs about sports, he did it before with "One Will" which is about pro basketball. I'm not a NASCAR fan or an MMA fan so, those songs although musically I like them, just don't do it for me. I don't think he wrote those songs in order to be played at sporting events. I think he began writing them because he loved the sport, but then perhaps he did think about them becoming anthems and made them more crowd friendly. I hope they are played, I'd love to see Rob finally get the recognition that he deserves! As for Matador, I think of that song as a story about a man that had given up on life but then his life canged. Do they even play rock n roll/metal music before Bull Fights? I wouldn't know. I don't think anyone would even think twice about that song if he hadn't already included songs about MMA and NASCAR on the album.
I do think that most of the choruses seem to have been written for crowd participation - like all the '80s hair band songs.
The songs I find myself listening to over and over again are: Speed of Sound, Like There's No Tomorrow, Till the Day I Die and The Mower. Those are my favorites. I love how Rob sings on this album and for me, vocals have always been the most important thing in a song since I love to sing. I'm sure that others that play different instruments feel the same about whatever they play.
I do like this album. But I agree, maybe Z. got a little too close to it playing as well as producing it? Pat was part of the writing team on the first two albums, so I'm sure they lost something. Guido, I only WISH I could have seen them back on the Resurrection tour....
Just my take on it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Friday, October 08, 2010 3:46:45 AM)| | | tasnam1 wrote: | | Thanks guidogodoy - we seem to think alike.
Heartless seems to have "soul", and is a MUCH better Heart of a Lion. Although the name is almost cheesy.
Heartless, Fire and Ice, Thunder and Lightnight - Sound like I and reading off an 80's record.
Heartless - "walking the streets now baby" ????? Rob can do better than that
Thunder and lightning after the guitar intro listen to it and then listen to Bon Jovi - You give Love a bad name intro.
Anyhow these are the thoughts.
Not saying I dislike the album.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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Budred wrote: |
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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| i realized i was listening to halford 4 hoping for another resurrection or crucible album and maybe not giving the album the chance it deserves !!! i caught myself today turning up most of the cd , i just cant get past the lyrics on made of metal yet and undisputed or the matador but the rest is catching on. i will be more positive in hearing this cd from now on and can maybe learn to like it more , ps mine was bought not stolen budred lol |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, October 08, 2010 1:53:38 PM | |
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HAHA! Fucking Necroticist lol! I totally agree with you 100% about "Made Of Metal". The Crucible album absolutely destroys this atrocity. I too wish Rob would focus just on Judas Priest.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Friday, October 08, 2010 8:24:26 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | | Made of METAL? lmfao! what a piece of CRAP!!! Don't waste ya money...Rob? give up - u lost it... |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, October 08, 2010 1:42:10 PM | |
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Hi Necro!! Nice to see you again! How are you?
But I don't agree with you about Rob at all. He hasn't lost it and I don't ever want him to give up! This album may not be what you wanted from him, but if you saw him live, you would KNOW that he still has it!! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Friday, October 08, 2010 8:24:26 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | | Made of METAL? lmfao! what a piece of CRAP!!! Don't waste ya money...Rob? give up - u lost it... |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, October 08, 2010 8:44:06 AM | |
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Pat went to become the lead singer of Damageplan. They released one album before Dimebag was killed...... RIP Dimebag.
From what I can tell, every band he has been in since, he is the lead singer.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Friday, October 08, 2010 7:18:41 AM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Ah, okay. Yeah, it was probably the best economic decision he could make at that time. Too bad, though. He and Ray could have added a little more 'bite' to the last two Halford albums. Thanks for the info.
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | As I understand it (and it makes complete sense), he simply went to other bands when Rob left Halford to go back to Priest. Seeing no future in Halford, Lachman was committed to other projects when Halford decided to regroup. Can't say that I blame him for not waiting around for a band left in limbo.
Ray Rendeau on bass was the final missing part. Shame, really. Not exactly sure what happened to him but I'd imagine the above scenario playing out there as well.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Actually, that's what I've been wondering for a while. What happened to Patrick? Did he just leave? Were there tensions in the band? What's up?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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Budred wrote: |
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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| [Necroticist] Friday, October 08, 2010 8:24:26 AM | |
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| Made of METAL? lmfao! what a piece of CRAP!!! Don't waste ya money...Rob? give up - u lost it... |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Friday, October 08, 2010 7:18:41 AM | |
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Ah, okay. Yeah, it was probably the best economic decision he could make at that time. Too bad, though. He and Ray could have added a little more 'bite' to the last two Halford albums. Thanks for the info.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, October 08, 2010 6:16:51 AM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | As I understand it (and it makes complete sense), he simply went to other bands when Rob left Halford to go back to Priest. Seeing no future in Halford, Lachman was committed to other projects when Halford decided to regroup. Can't say that I blame him for not waiting around for a band left in limbo.
Ray Rendeau on bass was the final missing part. Shame, really. Not exactly sure what happened to him but I'd imagine the above scenario playing out there as well.
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Actually, that's what I've been wondering for a while. What happened to Patrick? Did he just leave? Were there tensions in the band? What's up?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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Budred wrote: |
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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| i realized i was listening to halford 4 hoping for another resurrection or crucible album and maybe not giving the album the chance it deserves !!! i caught myself today turning up most of the cd , i just cant get past the lyrics on made of metal yet and undisputed or the matador but the rest is catching on. i will be more positive in hearing this cd from now on and can maybe learn to like it more , ps mine was bought not stolen budred lol |
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| [guidogodoy] Friday, October 08, 2010 6:16:51 AM | |
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As I understand it (and it makes complete sense), he simply went to other bands when Rob left Halford to go back to Priest. Seeing no future in Halford, Lachman was committed to other projects when Halford decided to regroup. Can't say that I blame him for not waiting around for a band left in limbo.
Ray Rendeau on bass was the final missing part. Shame, really. Not exactly sure what happened to him but I'd imagine the above scenario playing out there as well.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:53:17 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | Actually, that's what I've been wondering for a while. What happened to Patrick? Did he just leave? Were there tensions in the band? What's up?
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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Budred wrote: |
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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Thanks guidogodoy - we seem to think alike.
Heartless seems to have "soul", and is a MUCH better Heart of a Lion. Although the name is almost cheesy.
Heartless, Fire and Ice, Thunder and Lightnight - Sound like I and reading off an 80's record.
Heartless - "walking the streets now baby" ????? Rob can do better than that
Thunder and lightning after the guitar intro listen to it and then listen to Bon Jovi - You give Love a bad name intro.
Anyhow these are the thoughts.
Not saying I dislike the album.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:53:13 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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Actually, that's what I've been wondering for a while. What happened to Patrick? Did he just leave? Were there tensions in the band? What's up?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:53:13 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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Budred wrote: |
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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Incredible. I think that you are spot-on with this post as I feel almost exactly the same way. Right down to the "diamonds in the sky" line. That phrase just sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn't it? Caught my attention right away.
While I also like the album as a whole, I do flip-flop about the lyrics as well. Some, along with the guitars and drums for that matter, are simply too predictable. While I like the guitars / solos in Made of Metal, I find myself counting how many times "Supersonic silver flying machine" is repeated. I'll have a count when I get some free time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the album as a whole (I can really get into most songs, even "I Know We Stand a Chance" has a catchy little riff) but can't help but wonder if the absence of Patrick Lachman had an effect here. Roy Z is certainly no match on guitar and, when I compare earlier Halford shows both by memory and DVD/CD, it is even more noticeable. For those who saw the Resurrection tour, I am sure that you'll agree: Lachman was just a metal monster on stage. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by tasnam1 from Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:37:20 PM)
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
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Budred wrote: |
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I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
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tasnam1 wrote: |
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I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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Thanks for the comments Budred.
I also forgot to add to my original post the following:
Matador is also another "anthem Theme" -
After listening to the album for another two days some fine tuning thoughts:
I think the album musically is GREAT. But, lyrically, it is just off; i can't explain it. I love Rob, he is the best on this planet. It just seems his song writing lost creativity a little.
Take Made of Metal. GREAT music in the background. Fair lyrics.
Matador, GREAT music and style. Lyrics are "just okay".
Made of Metal, GREAT musically. Lyrics I go back and forth on. (I feel like I am watch Disney's CARS!!!!)
Ect, ect, ect.
I really like Speed of Sound and the track after it Like there's no tomorrow (although "like diamonds in the sky" is a little cheesy), Hell Razor is just plain COOL.
Of course Mower.
I seem to ALWAYS Skip over Fire & Ice and Thunder and Lightning - I believe these were filler tracks for him.
Undisputed is good musically, but the fact it is about a boxer, just seems to rub me the wrong way. Almost like he was trying to hard to fit a song around an industry.
Undisputed
Made of Metal
Matador
These songs just "seem" like he was trying to hard to fit the "events" around these lyrics.
If they become great anthems. I will be the first to admit it worked.
Tasnam
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:06:31 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | I like your post and agree with most of it. The point that stands out is the Heart of a Lion comparison.
I thought the exact same thing. My problem is that over half of the CD has tracks like that. I do not like
that song and that is why I'm struggling with this album. 100 percent agree with Mower comment.
| | | tasnam1 wrote: | | I don't post much, but here is my take on H4.
First of all I will preface my comments with the fact that I am a Halford/Fight and of course Priest fan through and through - so my comments are not negative, just analytical in nature.
The Mower song itself is worth the whole album - exceptional in everyway.
I like Speed of sound.
Hell Razor sounds like Stained Class/Sad wind era, which is cool - nice work.
Heartless is like a 2010 remake of 1986 Heart of a Lion, but much better - (now I can stop listening to HOAL (which was tough) and replace it with Heartless)
Made on Metal and Matador - I my opinion - are just ok tracks musically. My belief, challenge me if you want, is that Rob is trying to create an anthem style song to be play at Nascar and Bullfighting arenas. He is a reasonalby smart marketing guy from a 60 yeear old metal bands point of view. Think Gary Glitter (pedophile), and other rock anthems at sports events. The become timeless and of course push the popularity of the creator of the songs, long after the band is even alive.
As far as the lyrics, overall yes they seem a little superficial/simple in nature, I agree. For what ever reason that would be my most critical comment.
Overall I like the album so far and will listen to it even more now. I will like this album more over time. Now I give it a B+ maybe even soon an A- .
But again Mower is worth the album. I would pay $15.00 for that one song. And I mean that. I feel it is that good; even a challenger for Painkiller!
Thoughts?
Tasnam
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Look,I apologize Budred. I am the one who lashed out at your bands and started an argument,for that I'm sorry I was wrong.I speak my mind too much sometimes and say the wrong things but at least I can admit it. Lets chalk this up as my mistake and move on ok? Sorry again for the B.S.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Thursday, October 07, 2010 4:55:30 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Dude, you can criticize anything you want but when you include my name in your post I'm going
to respond. It's the knucklehead in me. I think you think that I've posted more about Slipknot than I actually have.
I only talked about Mushroomhead because I've recently purchased some of their music and recently saw them live.
I'm not going to post in Saxon thread because I'm not here to try to antagonize you. Instead of calling yourself an extreme
real metalhead call yourself an extreme Death Metalhead because I (am) a real metalhead. I appreciate many different
styles of metal not just garbage that goes a thousand miles an hour with a screaming scratchy voiced singer that sounds
like a cat caught in a trap. If my responses to your posts bother you then try not posting with my name in it. I have seen
many of your video posts that I hate but not once did (I) tell (you) how bad it sucked. It's not the "who you hate" thing that
bothers me it's the "telling me what I like sucks" thing that does. Because you (think) it sucks doesn't make it so. (You) are
one mind in a land of millions and (your) mind rules (you) not everyone else.
If this must go on let's do it in web police thread so we can spare the rest of the board from having to read this if they chose not to. (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:12:46 AM)
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HA!(lmao!) First off,yeah I've seen that live version of Four Crossed Wands and it is an utterly "terrible recording" it wasn't the band that posted this bootleg crappy video(duh).I could post a bootleg shitty live recording of "any band" Budred and call it shit please guy give me a break.I never said "you said" that Mushroomhead were death metal,I said "they" label it as death metal and give me some time and I'll post where I've seen this statement..ect....
You ask me "what is an extreme real metalhead"? You should know why your not worthy for an answer from somebody like myself who has been into this music since 1982..... "please". I've been reading your Mushroomhead and Slipknot posts ever since you joined here,have I ever said anything before about it? No,so big fucking deal if I lashed out and said they "suck" ......jimmy james hates Saxon,so does Brian...do I give a shit? No,go ahead and post some crappy reviews in the Saxon thread and see if I give a rats fuck. Because your here I can't "criticize" anything? Ha! Its all good dude,I didn't mean to rock your entire fucking world,I was just saying that I think Mushroomhead and Slipknot "sucks". Fuck those shit bands lol! Mushroomhead better than Saxon? Thanks for the laughs hahaha!
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My first reaction was anger, then I watched the video you posted and couldn't help but laugh.
I mean if that's your idea of good music then I understand your hatred of mine. I would like you to show
me where Mushroomhead is labeled Death Metal. I've never seen that nor said that. I don't like 99
percent of everything I just like a wide range of music. I think someone would have to be a fool to close
their mind to everything and try to enjoy music. If all you want to listen too is scratchy voiced singers and
bands playing as fast as they can and then criticize everything else it becomes a joke. It's not even a
serious argument. I'm curious, what is an extreme "real" metalhead? Someone who likes Absu and Saxon.
Please! Mushroomhead destroys these bands! And, you think MRH is commercial?
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It blows my mind that anyone would even like Slipknot or Mushroomhead,these 2 bands are a fucking "JOKE". They are not "extreme" they are false 'death metal" and are anything but "death metal" they are designed for 7th grade kids getting into junior highschool and are loathed by true extreme "real" metalheads that know what death metal really is HAHAHA!!! Fuck I hate bands like this,they make me "SICK". The only thing worse is to see them live! They can keep thier "Mushroomhead" and "Slipknot" and I'll just pump the latest Absu album and listen to some real underground non-commercial extreme occult metal lol!!! Sorry Budred,99% of these bands you get into I've always hated but I realize you like just about 99% of everything but I'm glad you like them.
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