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LOL! Whatever dude,if thats what makes you "feel better' than go for it .Its no skin off my nuts. You obviously don't know what your even talking about so I'll lay this un-needed conversation to rest,you need to learn what your talking about before you question.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:32:29 PM)| |  | jimmyjames wrote: | | So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
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| [spapad] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:52:00 PM | |
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HA!! Phantom. I Binged you and while it sounds very broken in direct english I get the point! lol
Bing's horrible translation to follow:
Somehow it all can be again and again only one same of you. Boring! Let times what new thought you!
The expert and lovers of iron lady. But time is in some cosy corner and pimpert you times each other to correctly by. Apparently missing you in this respect what quite huge.
Then, you need no longer read this Schwachmatenkram of you!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Phantom A6 from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:32:11 PM)| | | Phantom A6 wrote: | | Irgendwie könnt ihr alle immer und immer wieder nur ein und
dasselbe von Euch geben. Langweilig!! Laßt Euch mal was neues einfallen!!
Der Experte und der Liebhaber der Eisernen Jungfrau. Geht doch mal
in irgendeine gemütliche Ecke und pimpert Euch mal gegenseitig so richtig
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| [Phantom A6] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:32:11 PM | |
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Irgendwie könnt ihr alle immer und immer wieder nur ein und
dasselbe von Euch geben. Langweilig!! Laßt Euch mal was neues einfallen!!
Der Experte und der Liebhaber der Eisernen Jungfrau. Geht doch mal
in irgendeine gemütliche Ecke und pimpert Euch mal gegenseitig so richtig
durch. Anscheinend fehlt Euch in dieser Hinsicht was ganz gewaltig.
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| [jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:52:51 PM | |
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So you are being anal about the way the sentence was structured? Maybe he didn't say it the "correct" way but I understood perfectly what Brian was getting at and I'm sure you did too. You're just looking for a fight because you don't like Brian.
PS. You are extremely anal about everything to do with metal.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:22:02 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:22:02 PM | |
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LOL! Ha ha,thats not correct jimmy as you and Brian are not understanding what these statements actually mean in a stuctured sentence.I'm not being "anal" about anything jimmy,Brian has contradicted himself and I just called him out on it,no need for you to worry about it,but we will "agree to disagree" thats all.
And I'm not the Maiden fanboy,you should dedicate that Twilight Zone song to Brian...after all,any other song by any other band that did not have a guitar solo in it is considered "not good" but if its an Iron Maiden song than it "is good" and doesn't really need one. HA!
Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Think about it. lol!
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| [jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:39:23 PM | |
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To make up for disappointing you I will play Twilight Zone on my show next week and dedicate to you.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:00:23 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
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| [jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:20:16 PM | |
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So what you're saying is that you are being anal about the way the sentence is structured and are deliberately misunderstanding what was meant in an attempt to continue this Brian bashing. If you look at Brians response to my second post on the subject he said "exactly". To me there is a difference between should have and must have, to you, maybe not. I did not get the impression from Brians post that he was adamant that an excellent solo was compulsory for a song to be a good metal song. If you did then you must have misunderstood the post because Brian already said that my take on it was what he meant. There's nothing to argue about.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:00:23 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:00:23 PM | |
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No jimmy,I'm afraid your wrong on this one pal.He said every track should have one to be "good". Your not understanding the meanings of these sentences,look them up and you will find I'm right. Your confusing the words should and has together,look them up in sentences and depending on how its used they are showing what I'm saying is absolutely correct. We'll have to agree to disagree,no problem but he just basically said that the song Twilight Zone is not a "good" track unless it had an 'excellent" guitar solo in it, the word "good" in the sentence is why I'm right,had he worded it another way then you'd be right....
Its not that hard to understand,I'm disappointed in you jimmy hahahaha!!!!
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| [jimmyjames] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:52:56 PM | |
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JD, he didn't say every great song "has" to have a great solo. What you think he was saying and what he said are two different things. You are wrong on this one.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:36:41 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | "And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
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Brian Evans wrote March 1st in you tube videos thread: Bathory formed in 1983. Ha! 1983? HaHaHA!! Thats too funny! Where's the good guitar solo? No way these guys can compete with the masters like Iron Maiden
(lol!) Oh ok,so you laugh at Bathory for not playing a guitar solo but its ok if Iron maiden doesn't play a guitar solo in the song Twilight Zone?
LOL! Fuckin contradictional fanboy! LOL! Gotcha!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:39:59 AM)| | | Brian_Evans wrote: | | "And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:35:43 PM | |
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Brian Evans wrote today: "And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good"
Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
Ah but by saying "every good" metal track should have an excellent guitar solo in it you are 100% saying that "all" metal tracks must contain this "excellent guitar solos in them to be good". This is where you and jimmy james are grossly incorrect.Look up the definitions of each in sentences and you will find I'm 100% correct. In other words when you say "should have" you are implying that unless this track does not have a guitar solo in it then it is not a "good" metal track.
Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo"
So what about "Twilight Zone" from Iron Maiden Brian,it doesn't have a guitar solo in it at all.
so what you are saying is that Twilight Zone is not a good metal track unless it had an excellent guitar solo in it.
You need to take a course in logic before opening up your hole to me little Maiden fanboy,and of course I stumped you big time dude,haha everybody who reads this can easily see it.
You are a walking contradiction dude and I've just proved it,your just to fucking stupid to read it and understand it,maybe your parents failed you as a child? lol! Fuckin Maiden fanboy dork.
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"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
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"And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track."
I didn't shy away from anything. You're just grasping at straws here and you probably don't even know how to play chess. The bass solo thing I said was just a joke. Although Steve Harris does more in that track than most bass players do in ten. Twlight Zone is a solid metal track. And I never said all metal tracks had to have a solo in it to be good. Read the post five more times and maybe just maybe(fingers crossed) you will finally catch on. You can't stump me man, give it up and go back to your littie Saxon cave of a thread. You're out of your element here.
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Brian Evans wrote:Twilight Zone basically has a bass solo all the way through it. Steve Harris is excellent! Ha!
Auh ha! You've been stumped dude,that aint no "bass solo" lol!! And Twilight Zone doesn't have a "good guitar solo" in it,only some bends that an unexperienced guitarist could easily do. And yeah I knew you would throw the live versions of the JP tunes,thats why I posted what I posted for you to shy away from the Iron Maiden Twilight Zone non-guitar solo track. Face it,since Iron Maiden has the song Twilight Zone,not every song "should" have an excellent guitar solo.
Your a contradiction walking my friend.
Check mate. LOFL!!!! "Bass solo"?? HAHAHA!! Please,if that is a bass solo thats the weakest bass solo in the history of rock/metal. Oh did I say check mate? Oh yeah,I did....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:51:50 PM)
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Here's a live video of "Heading Out To The Highway" and what is that I hear in there.. could it be, a guitar solo. Dual guitar solo. Hmmmm, wonder why they added that? Could it be because it made the song even better? Did you hear it????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zaxZ0j_70
Here's "Breaking The Law" live from recent British Steel Tour and again what is that I hear in there, another guitar solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HnFvb_NVk
Why did they add that? Just for kicks? Are you going to go argue with Glenn Tipton and K.K. Downing and tell them that they ruined the song with that solo? Well if you do, let me know how that goes over.
United
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Would have been better with solos but still good metal tracks. Although United seems like a copy of Take on the World.
Twilight Zone basically has a bass solo all the way through it. Steve Harris is excellent! Ha! (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:22:16 AM)
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Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".
I "disagree" fully. What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.
The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in most punk?
What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.
Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?
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Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
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I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
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Oh my, let's go back to green eyed lady over that acid induced piece to sh*t! I hate that song! I remember hearing the shortened version of it on radio as a kid and even THAT was too fucking long!!!
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Exactly.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:31:00 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Yeah but he said "should" and I agree in a sense. He didn't say every great metal track "does" have an excellent solo. He's not saying there aren't any great songs without solos, he just thinks they should have them.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Thier not favorites of mine either jimmy but its the point that I'm addressing here. I however do think Heading Out To The Highway "IS" a great track with harmony bends,not "good guitar solos" and I do think "Twilight Zone" by Iron Maiden is a great track with harmony bends not guitar solos.
So by Brian saying "every good metal track should have an excellent guitar solo in it".....well Twilight Zone doesn't have an "excellent" guitar solo in it as it hardly has a solo in it at all,so what he is saying is that the Twilight Zone track is not a "good" track and at the same time he claims every Iron Maiden track to be top notch equal to "any" Iron Maiden song ever written....he is caught in a squeeze play between 3rd and home....in other words hes now got to be extremely careful the way he answers this post because he will be caught in a "contradiction".
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | These are not great examples JD. Take On The World and United are two of the weakest songs Priest have ever released in my opinion. I hate those songs. I also find Breaking The Law boring as hell as well. Love Bites is ok but not one of DOTFs best songs. I actually kind of agree with both Brian and yourself on this one. I think a true metal song should have some kind of shredding guitar solo in it somewhere but like you say, lots of bands do fine without them, especially in some of the sub-genres of metal. Bands who have made their name with deadly soloing and shredding should always continue in that vein, then we would never have albums like St Anger thrust upon us.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".
I "disagree" fully. What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.
The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in most punk?
What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.
Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?
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Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
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I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
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Here's a live video of "Heading Out To The Highway" and what is that I hear in there.. could it be, a guitar solo. Dual guitar solo. Hmmmm, wonder why they added that? Could it be because it made the song even better? Did you hear it????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zaxZ0j_70
Here's "Breaking The Law" live from recent British Steel Tour and again what is that I hear in there, another guitar solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HnFvb_NVk
Why did they add that? Just for kicks? Are you going to go argue with Glenn Tipton and K.K. Downing and tell them that they ruined the song with that solo? Well if you do, let me know how that goes over.
United
Take on the World
Love Bites
Would have been better with solos but still good metal tracks. Although United seems like a copy of Take on the World.
Twilight Zone basically has a bass solo all the way through it. Steve Harris is excellent! Ha! [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:22:16 AM)
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Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".
I "disagree" fully. What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.
The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in most punk?
What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.
Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?
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Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
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Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
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Yeah but he said "should" and I agree in a sense. He didn't say every great metal track "does" have an excellent solo. He's not saying there aren't any great songs without solos, he just thinks they should have them.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:18:27 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Thier not favorites of mine either jimmy but its the point that I'm addressing here. I however do think Heading Out To The Highway "IS" a great track with harmony bends,not "good guitar solos" and I do think "Twilight Zone" by Iron Maiden is a great track with harmony bends not guitar solos.
So by Brian saying "every good metal track should have an excellent guitar solo in it".....well Twilight Zone doesn't have an "excellent" guitar solo in it as it hardly has a solo in it at all,so what he is saying is that the Twilight Zone track is not a "good" track and at the same time he claims every Iron Maiden track to be top notch equal to "any" Iron Maiden song ever written....he is caught in a squeeze play between 3rd and home....in other words hes now got to be extremely careful the way he answers this post because he will be caught in a "contradiction".
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | These are not great examples JD. Take On The World and United are two of the weakest songs Priest have ever released in my opinion. I hate those songs. I also find Breaking The Law boring as hell as well. Love Bites is ok but not one of DOTFs best songs. I actually kind of agree with both Brian and yourself on this one. I think a true metal song should have some kind of shredding guitar solo in it somewhere but like you say, lots of bands do fine without them, especially in some of the sub-genres of metal. Bands who have made their name with deadly soloing and shredding should always continue in that vein, then we would never have albums like St Anger thrust upon us.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".
I "disagree" fully. What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.
The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in most punk?
What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.
Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:12:03 PM)
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Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
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Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
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Thier not favorites of mine either jimmy but its the point that I'm addressing here. I however do think Heading Out To The Highway "IS" a great track with harmony bends,not "good guitar solos" and I do think "Twilight Zone" by Iron Maiden is a great track with harmony bends not guitar solos.
So by Brian saying "every good metal track should have an excellent guitar solo in it".....well Twilight Zone doesn't have an "excellent" guitar solo in it as it hardly has a solo in it at all,so what he is saying is that the Twilight Zone track is not a "good" track and at the same time he claims every Iron Maiden track to be top notch equal to "any" Iron Maiden song ever written....he is caught in a squeeze play between 3rd and home....in other words hes now got to be extremely careful the way he answers this post because he will be caught in a "contradiction".
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:02:50 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | These are not great examples JD. Take On The World and United are two of the weakest songs Priest have ever released in my opinion. I hate those songs. I also find Breaking The Law boring as hell as well. Love Bites is ok but not one of DOTFs best songs. I actually kind of agree with both Brian and yourself on this one. I think a true metal song should have some kind of shredding guitar solo in it somewhere but like you say, lots of bands do fine without them, especially in some of the sub-genres of metal. Bands who have made their name with deadly soloing and shredding should always continue in that vein, then we would never have albums like St Anger thrust upon us.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Brian Evans wrote: "What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo".
I "disagree" fully. What every good "heavy metal" track should have is an excellent guitar solo. As you don't know the black metal thrash metal or death metal genre/scene,you don't understand these styles of metal so you need to type "heavy" before typing "metal" when you talk about having these needed guitar solos. Guitar solos do not fit in every song of every style of "metal" at all no matter what rubbish you can come up with here Brian.
The fact is that they don't belong in every song of every style of "metal".This is the area where your extremely weak at understanding.Its like asking why isn't there any guitar solos in most punk?
What about Breaking The Law and what about "Take On The World" by JP...they do not have a guitar solo in them,are they not good? What about United? No guitar solo in it.
Or how about Love Bites Brian? Love Bites does NOT have a guitar solo in it,only harmony bends that couldn't come close to be considered a "guitar solo"...so is Love Bites lame becaise of your philosophy?
(Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:12:03 PM)
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Brian_Evans wrote: |
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Long?? Plodding?? Predictable?? Whatever. You just don't know good metal when you hear it. Ha!
Nice Rainmaker video, I listened to the part between 2:05 and 2:28 about 50 times! What every good metal track should have is an excellent guitar solo. Murray is sick!
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guidogodoy wrote: |
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Bleah. Long, plodding, predictable.
I try. I really do. Just wasted 7+ minutes of my life, though. I am all for Nosta against anything Maiden has done of late save for one....with the goofy video.
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LOL!!!!! No, not long nor plodding. Compared with what, I might ask? BWWAHAAHAAAAAA!!!