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[ron h] Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:13:06 AM
Where's the "Like" button when I need it??
Couldn't agree with you more HRMG!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS from Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:01:18 AM)
HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS wrote:
Yes, I will be there and I most definitely am giving Richie a chance. I think he will be great (or I at least I am hopeful that he will be great) given the fact that Glenn speaks so highly of him. But I can't get over this devastated feeling I have of seeing Richie in KK's place, that's all. I'm just fucking crushed because this ISN'T the way it should end. But, it's the way it is and I will support my all time favorite band no matter what. I'll be there, screamin' my lungs out with as many of you metal maniacs as we can get together. I'm just heartbroken at the moment. But life goes on and I wish KK all the best! Kick ass Richie, the world is watching (no pressure there at all, right?). Richie has balls of steel to get up there and try to fill KK's shoes! I hope he blows everyone away!!!
spapad wrote:
But you both know you will be there. Grieve the loss and give the kid a chance.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:01:18 AM
Yes, I will be there and I most definitely am giving Richie a chance. I think he will be great (or I at least I am hopeful that he will be great) given the fact that Glenn speaks so highly of him. But I can't get over this devastated feeling I have of seeing Richie in KK's place, that's all. I'm just fucking crushed because this ISN'T the way it should end. But, it's the way it is and I will support my all time favorite band no matter what. I'll be there, screamin' my lungs out with as many of you metal maniacs as we can get together. I'm just heartbroken at the moment. But life goes on and I wish KK all the best! Kick ass Richie, the world is watching (no pressure there at all, right?). Richie has balls of steel to get up there and try to fill KK's shoes! I hope he blows everyone away!!!
But you both know you will be there. Grieve the loss and give the kid a chance.
[ron h] Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:45:59 AM
Doesn't Scott's pic make him look more like he's a member of the Ramone's rather than the greatest Metal band?? lol [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, May 07, 2011 3:15:33 AM)
J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
Awsome new design for the forum and the Epitaph tour,K.K. will always be the spirit of Judas Priest but this isn't the end of the band,I think Richie Faulkner fits in perfectly and glad he is not holding a flying V. I really think that Judas Priest are going to suprise a lot of people with this next studio album I can't feel it and as I said before .....no it will not beat Sad Wings,Stained Class,British Steel,Screaming,Defenders or Painkiller but I think it will rival the rest of the discography and this is not worse than when Rob left the band,the new album will show what Priest are made of without K.K.,it may be so good that it might make K.K. come back to Priest.
[J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, May 07, 2011 3:15:33 AM
Awsome new design for the forum and the Epitaph tour,K.K. will always be the spirit of Judas Priest but this isn't the end of the band,I think Richie Faulkner fits in perfectly and glad he is not holding a flying V. I really think that Judas Priest are going to suprise a lot of people with this next studio album I can't feel it and as I said before .....no it will not beat Sad Wings,Stained Class,British Steel,Screaming,Defenders or Painkiller but I think it will rival the rest of the discography and this is not worse than when Rob left the band,the new album will show what Priest are made of without K.K.,it may be so good that it might make K.K. come back to Priest.
[spapad] Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:34:40 AM
But you both know you will be there. Grieve the loss and give the kid a chance.
I knew it was coming, but I feel like I just got kicked in the stomach again seeing Richie and not KK....
Cool artwork though!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It seems as though the new monster will look even more intimidating than the AOR angel. And it looks like they won't force Richie to play the Flying V. This tour will definitely be an interesting one. I'm looking foward to it and the new album.
spapad wrote:
Looks somewhat like the old Gull Japanese Helmet stuff, only goat headed with armor/ or life like metalian. It's different. Would like to see the whole shot.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey! New header to the site! Like the artwork.
[spapad] Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:05:22 AM
Not to brush KK away, but i thought Richie was handsome in his photo.
If Glenn thinks he's up for the job, I must believe he is. I love KK, but if he does not want to do it anymore, what are we going to do?
I know what I'm going to do. ..........................Be there.
I knew it was coming, but I feel like I just got kicked in the stomach again seeing Richie and not KK....
Cool artwork though!
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
It seems as though the new monster will look even more intimidating than the AOR angel. And it looks like they won't force Richie to play the Flying V. This tour will definitely be an interesting one. I'm looking foward to it and the new album.
spapad wrote:
Looks somewhat like the old Gull Japanese Helmet stuff, only goat headed with armor/ or life like metalian. It's different. Would like to see the whole shot.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey! New header to the site! Like the artwork.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, May 06, 2011 11:56:24 PM
I knew it was coming, but I feel like I just got kicked in the stomach again seeing Richie and not KK....
It seems as though the new monster will look even more intimidating than the AOR angel. And it looks like they won't force Richie to play the Flying V. This tour will definitely be an interesting one. I'm looking foward to it and the new album.
spapad wrote:
Looks somewhat like the old Gull Japanese Helmet stuff, only goat headed with armor/ or life like metalian. It's different. Would like to see the whole shot.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey! New header to the site! Like the artwork.
[spapad] Friday, May 06, 2011 11:12:04 PM
I just saw that, and the beast looks like an amalgamation of many beasts. It even has feathers. COOL!
It seems as though the new monster will look even more intimidating than the AOR angel. And it looks like they won't force Richie to play the Flying V. This tour will definitely be an interesting one. I'm looking foward to it and the new album.
spapad wrote:
Looks somewhat like the old Gull Japanese Helmet stuff, only goat headed with armor/ or life like metalian. It's different. Would like to see the whole shot.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey! New header to the site! Like the artwork.
[Vaillant 3.0] Friday, May 06, 2011 11:10:09 PM
It seems as though the new monster will look even more intimidating than the AOR angel. And it looks like they won't force Richie to play the Flying V. This tour will definitely be an interesting one. I'm looking foward to it and the new album.
Looks somewhat like the old Gull Japanese Helmet stuff, only goat headed with armor/ or life like metalian. It's different. Would like to see the whole shot.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hey! New header to the site! Like the artwork.
[spapad] Friday, May 06, 2011 10:58:37 PM
Edited at: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:14:20 PM
[spapad] Friday, May 06, 2011 10:50:21 PM
Looks somewhat like the old Gull Japanese Helmet stuff, only goat headed with armor/ or life like metalian. It's different. Would like to see the whole shot.
Den!!! Awsome to see you back lately man,very cool to still have members from 2005 here today. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods and look forwards to seeing your posts my friend.
Awesome Becks! Have a great day in the "Magic Kingdom"! I love Disney World, but have never been to Disneyland. If they have the tower of terrror there, you MUST ride it!!!!! It's GREAT!! I rode it so many times the fall didn't scare me at all anymore. lol
Ok so it turns out our hotel in LA has free Wifi, so just checking in to say, got here safe, it's bloody hot, and I'm off to Disneyland tomorrow! YAY!
[Becks] Thursday, May 05, 2011 9:33:26 PM
Ok so it turns out our hotel in LA has free Wifi, so just checking in to say, got here safe, it's bloody hot, and I'm off to Disneyland tomorrow! YAY!
[metalgodess] Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:16:57 PM
Have a safe and awesome trip, Becks! Godspeed!
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:03:21 PM
Have a FANTASTIC time in California Becks!!!! Can't wait to hear all about it and see some great pictures! I hope you both have a safe and wonderful trip!
Ha, I was there last night too JJ! Trivium were pretty good, As I Lay Dying aren't really my thing, missed most of These Four Walls, and Disturbed I enjoyed bar the fact the singer is a cock.
I'm off to the States today! YAY! So I will be MIA for a couple of weeks, so I'll see you all on the other side!
jimmyjames wrote:
I am going to the Disturbed show tonight. Not really my thing but nothing better to do on a Wednesday night and they are playing with Trivium and another band so it should be worth it. Fingers crossed.
Ha, I was there last night too JJ! Trivium were pretty good, As I Lay Dying aren't really my thing, missed most of These Four Walls, and Disturbed I enjoyed bar the fact the singer is a cock.
I'm off to the States today! YAY! So I will be MIA for a couple of weeks, so I'll see you all on the other side!
jimmyjames wrote:
I am going to the Disturbed show tonight. Not really my thing but nothing better to do on a Wednesday night and they are playing with Trivium and another band so it should be worth it. Fingers crossed.
Ha, I was there last night too JJ! Trivium were pretty good, As I Lay Dying aren't really my thing, missed most of These Four Walls, and Disturbed I enjoyed bar the fact the singer is a cock.
I'm off to the States today! YAY! So I will be MIA for a couple of weeks, so I'll see you all on the other side!
jimmyjames wrote:
I am going to the Disturbed show tonight. Not really my thing but nothing better to do on a Wednesday night and they are playing with Trivium and another band so it should be worth it. Fingers crossed.
[Becks] Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:16:52 PM
Ha, I was there last night too JJ! Trivium were pretty good, As I Lay Dying aren't really my thing, missed most of These Four Walls, and Disturbed I enjoyed bar the fact the singer is a cock.
I'm off to the States today! YAY! So I will be MIA for a couple of weeks, so I'll see you all on the other side!
I am going to the Disturbed show tonight. Not really my thing but nothing better to do on a Wednesday night and they are playing with Trivium and another band so it should be worth it. Fingers crossed.
[jimmyjames] Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:38:12 PM
I am going to the Disturbed show tonight. Not really my thing but nothing better to do on a Wednesday night and they are playing with Trivium and another band so it should be worth it. Fingers crossed.
[guidogodoy] Monday, May 02, 2011 11:20:48 PM
I am glad the hawks take care of the sparrows around here. If only they would take out the damn woodpeckers! LOL!
My son thought it was really funny when I came back home and got into bed. Craig thought I ran exceptionally fast and crawled back into bed for a nap lol.. I guess in a few hours I'll be up at a sparrows fart ready to do it properly this time lol.
guidogodoy wrote:
Now THAT is eager! LOL!
Me? I arrived a few minutes before the start. Who made it a rule to start races so early? Start at 12 noon, I say! What is a little dehydration and sunburn in the big scheme of things?
joedraper wrote:
Awesome!! I arrived for a race today that is actually being run tomorrow lol... Talk about eager!
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind, Joe. Race was this morning. Got a medal for #2 in muy age group. Prolly only two of us running! LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
[joedraper] Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:56:05 PM
My son thought it was really funny when I came back home and got into bed. Craig thought I ran exceptionally fast and crawled back into bed for a nap lol.. I guess in a few hours I'll be up at a sparrows fart ready to do it properly this time lol. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:11:27 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Now THAT is eager! LOL!
Me? I arrived a few minutes before the start. Who made it a rule to start races so early? Start at 12 noon, I say! What is a little dehydration and sunburn in the big scheme of things?
joedraper wrote:
Awesome!! I arrived for a race today that is actually being run tomorrow lol... Talk about eager!
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind, Joe. Race was this morning. Got a medal for #2 in muy age group. Prolly only two of us running! LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
[Head banger] Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:17:04 PM
the strange thing is that races in the winter in canada still start first thing in the AM. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:11:27 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Now THAT is eager! LOL!
Me? I arrived a few minutes before the start. Who made it a rule to start races so early? Start at 12 noon, I say! What is a little dehydration and sunburn in the big scheme of things?
joedraper wrote:
Awesome!! I arrived for a race today that is actually being run tomorrow lol... Talk about eager!
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind, Joe. Race was this morning. Got a medal for #2 in muy age group. Prolly only two of us running! LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
[guidogodoy] Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:11:27 PM
Now THAT is eager! LOL!
Me? I arrived a few minutes before the start. Who made it a rule to start races so early? Start at 12 noon, I say! What is a little dehydration and sunburn in the big scheme of things?
Awesome!! I arrived for a race today that is actually being run tomorrow lol... Talk about eager!
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind, Joe. Race was this morning. Got a medal for #2 in muy age group. Prolly only two of us running! LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
[joedraper] Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:13:24 AM
Awesome!! I arrived for a race today that is actually being run tomorrow lol... Talk about eager! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:37:47 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind, Joe. Race was this morning. Got a medal for #2 in muy age group. Prolly only two of us running! LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
[spapad] Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:47:55 PM
Sorry about the camera HB. I hope you go home to a thawed landscape! Here's hoping.
not many, my camera was broken before the trip, so using father in laws when he is not busy. didnt have it at the beach.
Spa, I am hoping it all melts before I get home.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The wind. On some days it can knock down semis and start massive brush fires. Hopefully you guys don't see any of that. Have you taken any pics?
Head banger wrote:
leave in the morning. its been snowing back home, so this is still beter, but the damn wind is a pain
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ahh. Learn something new everyday.
Palm Springs get blazing hot every summer. And yeah, there ain't much to see in the Inland Empire, except for maybe dry, barren wastelands. The farther out west you go the more interesting stuff you're likely to see. How long will you be out there?
Head banger wrote:
palm springs
psp is the airport code
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
PSP? Don't think I'm familiar with that town. What's its full name?
Head banger wrote:
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Head banger] Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:09:54 PM
not many, my camera was broken before the trip, so using father in laws when he is not busy. didnt have it at the beach.
Spa, I am hoping it all melts before I get home. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:58:09 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The wind. On some days it can knock down semis and start massive brush fires. Hopefully you guys don't see any of that. Have you taken any pics?
Head banger wrote:
leave in the morning. its been snowing back home, so this is still beter, but the damn wind is a pain
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ahh. Learn something new everyday.
Palm Springs get blazing hot every summer. And yeah, there ain't much to see in the Inland Empire, except for maybe dry, barren wastelands. The farther out west you go the more interesting stuff you're likely to see. How long will you be out there?
Head banger wrote:
palm springs
psp is the airport code
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
PSP? Don't think I'm familiar with that town. What's its full name?
Head banger wrote:
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[spapad] Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:59:15 PM
Too true, and they would have brought you a sweet tea too.
Exactly! Not like I could call anyone. Still, I am in the south. I could have just asked some stranger to go up onto their porch to "set a spell." I am sure that they would have let me.
spapad wrote:
Were you trying to go for the same example the Brit made running 19 miles home after a marathon? Ah, you must have been inspired! From the sound of it you regret being so inspired. lol At least you made it! As I know you had NO cell to call for a ride home. (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:51:23 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Honestly? No, not really. I stupidly decided to run to the race start which is a few miles from my house. Run home REALLY sucked!
It was for autism, though, so a good cause. Cute little medal too. Guy also gave me a shirt and coupon for a free haircut!
spapad wrote:
Did ya have fun? That's all that matters. I personally would consider being drug by a car that many miles more fun, but I'm no runner.
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind, Joe. Race was this morning. Got a medal for #2 in muy age group. Prolly only two of us running! LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
Edited at: Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:54:04 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:57:37 PM
Exactly! Not like I could call anyone. Still, I am in the south. I could have just asked some stranger to go up onto their porch to "set a spell." I am sure that they would have let me.
Were you trying to go for the same example the Brit made running 19 miles home after a marathon? Ah, you must have been inspired! From the sound of it you regret being so inspired. lol At least you made it! As I know you had NO cell to call for a ride home. (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:51:23 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Honestly? No, not really. I stupidly decided to run to the race start which is a few miles from my house. Run home REALLY sucked!
It was for autism, though, so a good cause. Cute little medal too. Guy also gave me a shirt and coupon for a free haircut!
spapad wrote:
Did ya have fun? That's all that matters. I personally would consider being drug by a car that many miles more fun, but I'm no runner.
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind, Joe. Race was this morning. Got a medal for #2 in muy age group. Prolly only two of us running! LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
Edited at: Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:54:04 PM
[spapad] Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:53:50 PM
Were you trying to go for the same example the Brit made running 19 miles home after a marathon? Ah, you must have been inspired! From the sound of it you regret being so inspired. lol At least you made it! As I know you had NO cell to call for a ride home. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:51:23 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Honestly? No, not really. I stupidly decided to run to the race start which is a few miles from my house. Run home REALLY sucked!
It was for autism, though, so a good cause. Cute little medal too. Guy also gave me a shirt and coupon for a free haircut!
spapad wrote:
Did ya have fun? That's all that matters. I personally would consider being drug by a car that many miles more fun, but I'm no runner.
guidogodoy wrote:
Never mind, Joe. Race was this morning. Got a medal for #2 in muy age group. Prolly only two of us running! LOL!
guidogodoy wrote:
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
Edited at: Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:54:04 PM
[guidogodoy] Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:51:23 PM
Honestly? No, not really. I stupidly decided to run to the race start which is a few miles from my house. Run home REALLY sucked!
It was for autism, though, so a good cause. Cute little medal too. Guy also gave me a shirt and coupon for a free haircut!
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
[spapad] Saturday, April 30, 2011 5:00:57 PM
The wind has been a big pain for a bunch of states in the past week. I'm glad it's settling here in VA finally.
Glad you had a good time! Must be depressing to return to snow at this time of year.
leave in the morning. its been snowing back home, so this is still beter, but the damn wind is a pain
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ahh. Learn something new everyday.
Palm Springs get blazing hot every summer. And yeah, there ain't much to see in the Inland Empire, except for maybe dry, barren wastelands. The farther out west you go the more interesting stuff you're likely to see. How long will you be out there?
Head banger wrote:
palm springs
psp is the airport code
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
PSP? Don't think I'm familiar with that town. What's its full name?
Head banger wrote:
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:58:09 PM
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The wind. On some days it can knock down semis and start massive brush fires. Hopefully you guys don't see any of that. Have you taken any pics?
leave in the morning. its been snowing back home, so this is still beter, but the damn wind is a pain
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ahh. Learn something new everyday.
Palm Springs get blazing hot every summer. And yeah, there ain't much to see in the Inland Empire, except for maybe dry, barren wastelands. The farther out west you go the more interesting stuff you're likely to see. How long will you be out there?
Head banger wrote:
palm springs
psp is the airport code
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
PSP? Don't think I'm familiar with that town. What's its full name?
Head banger wrote:
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Head banger] Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:54:08 PM
leave in the morning. its been snowing back home, so this is still beter, but the damn wind is a pain [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:51:59 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Ahh. Learn something new everyday.
Palm Springs get blazing hot every summer. And yeah, there ain't much to see in the Inland Empire, except for maybe dry, barren wastelands. The farther out west you go the more interesting stuff you're likely to see. How long will you be out there?
Head banger wrote:
palm springs
psp is the airport code
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
PSP? Don't think I'm familiar with that town. What's its full name?
Head banger wrote:
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:51:59 PM
Ahh. Learn something new everyday.
Palm Springs get blazing hot every summer. And yeah, there ain't much to see in the Inland Empire, except for maybe dry, barren wastelands. The farther out west you go the more interesting stuff you're likely to see. How long will you be out there?
PSP? Don't think I'm familiar with that town. What's its full name?
Head banger wrote:
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
PSP? Don't think I'm familiar with that town. What's its full name?
Head banger wrote:
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:47:32 PM
PSP? Don't think I'm familiar with that town. What's its full name?
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Head banger] Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:44:06 PM
I think I drove thru it or saw a sign for it once. dont remember. PSP is one boring town though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:10:54 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
Head banger wrote:
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in?
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:10:54 PM
Currently I'm in NorCal, but when I'm back in SoCal I live in a town about 10 mins away from Los Angeles: Bell Gardens!
It's your typical LA county town, not a bad place to visit. Our biggest attraction is the casino, a biggie if you're into gambling and whatnot. I think it appeared in one of those Poker Championship games that show up on TV.
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Head banger] Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:01:44 AM
sounds good. what part of So cal do you live in? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:31:55 AM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times.
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Maple Syrup] Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:52:49 AM
Evening to all. KK has left and we jest for the farewell tour already booked? Hopefully Sinner isnt one Priest pulls off from Sin after Sin. Guido nice barbs at the fake fan.. sniffed em right out. lol.. Best Regards. Mple Syrp Edited at: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:53:43 AM
[Vaillant 3.0] Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:31:55 AM
My mom would back you up in that gun battle if she had a gun. She does have a machete, though.
Huntington Beach is cool. I used to go there every summer with the high school choir. We'd bike, swim in the water, make a bonfire at night and eat s'mores and other tasty snacks. Good times, good times. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Head banger from Friday, April 29, 2011 7:42:08 PM)
Head banger wrote:
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[guidogodoy] Friday, April 29, 2011 8:48:56 PM
Locked and loading up the iPod for a run for autism tomorrow, Joe! Where tha hell are ya?!
AC/DC is in the list. Soon to be bumped by my all-starter "Reeeeessssssssurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeection!"
[Head banger] Friday, April 29, 2011 7:42:08 PM
was a great time. interesting scenery at huntington beach [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:32:08 PM)
spapad wrote:
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Head banger] Friday, April 29, 2011 7:41:46 PM
probably, I didnt check, but I didnt do any nude sunbathing either so.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Friday, April 29, 2011 6:59:54 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
I assume your butt was pasty-white. I'll now look for you on "Vacations Gone Bad!" LOL!!!
Head banger wrote:
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[guidogodoy] Friday, April 29, 2011 6:59:54 PM
I assume your butt was pasty-white. I'll now look for you on "Vacations Gone Bad!" LOL!!!
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[spapad] Friday, April 29, 2011 6:32:08 PM
Sunburn and a wave knocked you off your feet. lol I'm sure you had an excellent time.
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time.
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[K2M] Friday, April 29, 2011 4:39:42 PM
Have a cool vacationHeadBanger.
[Head banger] Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:53:27 PM
vail, I see that shit all the time. if I carried a gun I would probably end up losing a gun battle over that shit [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:55:02 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Hmmm...that is indeed strange. Either there was an accident that cleared up very quickly, or the cop wanted to play with you all. My mom gets pissed anytime we're stopped at a red light, a cop behind us turns on the lights and sirens to get past us and turns them off as soon as he clears the intersection. Did you have fun at Knott's?
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Head banger] Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:52:43 PM
dark grey 2011 grand caravan. of course it was dark out....
I didnt go to knotts I went to the beach. got a sunburn and a wave knocked off my trunks. was a good time. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:13:22 PM)
guidogodoy wrote:
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
Head banger wrote:
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Becks] Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:52:44 PM
Hi everyone! Well I haven't been around for a few day, because 48 hours ago Craig got home from deployment (I had to go to another city to pick him up lol). Needless to say I am very happy he is home safe and sound!
[Vaillant 3.0] Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:55:02 PM
Hmmm...that is indeed strange. Either there was an accident that cleared up very quickly, or the cop wanted to play with you all. My mom gets pissed anytime we're stopped at a red light, a cop behind us turns on the lights and sirens to get past us and turns them off as soon as he clears the intersection. Did you have fun at Knott's?
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[guidogodoy] Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:13:22 PM
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe you just missed one of those famous "CA hot pursuits" or something. What kind of car were you driving. I'll look for you on "Amazing Car Chases 12."
Better question, did you get any boysenberry at Knotts?! Safe travels, amigo.
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[Head banger] Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:01:26 PM
so, I am on vacation in CA. drove from Palm Springs to LA yesterday, family went to knotts berry farm, I went to the beach. driving back a cop pulls out onto the highway ahead of me, lights going. starts swerving back and forth across 5 lanes stopping anyone from passing. slowed us all down from 65 to 30. this went on for about 10 minutes. finaly he turns the lights off and stays in the right lane. guy in the left lane speeds up and cop puts the lights on and pulls in behind him, guy signals, takes the off ramp, not sure if he stopped for cop or not.
Wondering WTF is that all about.
[guidogodoy] Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:51:24 PM
I wonder if KK was invited to the Royal Wedding?
[icecreamman] Monday, April 25, 2011 9:18:11 PM
I don't think this is a stunt, but I woul not put it past Maiden to do something like this. I think both bands care about their fans, but their mangment could care less. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Brian_Evans from Monday, April 25, 2011 7:25:20 PM)
Brian_Evans wrote:
I don't think Maiden would ever pull a stunt like that.
Daniela P wrote:
Exactly, very well said.
If you're selling tickets for the FINAL tour of AC/DC, you'd expect Angus to be there. If you're selling tickets for the FINAL Iron Maiden tour, you would expect Steve Harris and Bruce Dickinson to be there. The list goes on - the point being that I have bought tickets for something that turns out to be something else than what was ADVERTISED.
Every single person who bought a ticket, should be given a refund and an apology. Not some stupid management-statement about what a "great show" it will be.
Don't get me wrong - the issue is not that K.K is leaving, it's not a catastrophy that there's a new dude playing guitar - I mean, for god's sake, we survived the Ripper-era!
And I don't think any less of Glenn, Rob, Ian and Scott as musicians or members of Judas Priest.
NONE OF THAT is "the problem". The problem is announcing K.K's departure a month before the European summer-tour, when it's too late to cancel flights, rental cars, hotels and concert tickets! MAYBE I wanted the opportunity to make up my own mind whether or not I wanted to see this "alternative Priest".
I wasn't given that chance. I feel like an idiot for having been PLAYED this way, tricked into buying tickets to something that is not what I expected to see.
You wouldn't be okay if you paid for a Mercedes and someone delivered a Fiat to you door either.
People can say whatever they want, I think this was dishonest - and it doesn't really matter if it's K.K's fault, or Judas Priest's fault or the management's fault. The fact remains - I've taken vacation days and spent a lot of money on something that is not what it was being advertised as.
Sorry - but in my book, that's wrong.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Brian_Evans] Monday, April 25, 2011 7:25:20 PM
I don't think Maiden would ever pull a stunt like that. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Daniela P from Monday, April 25, 2011 4:48:47 AM)
Daniela P wrote:
Exactly, very well said.
If you're selling tickets for the FINAL tour of AC/DC, you'd expect Angus to be there. If you're selling tickets for the FINAL Iron Maiden tour, you would expect Steve Harris and Bruce Dickinson to be there. The list goes on - the point being that I have bought tickets for something that turns out to be something else than what was ADVERTISED.
Every single person who bought a ticket, should be given a refund and an apology. Not some stupid management-statement about what a "great show" it will be.
Don't get me wrong - the issue is not that K.K is leaving, it's not a catastrophy that there's a new dude playing guitar - I mean, for god's sake, we survived the Ripper-era!
And I don't think any less of Glenn, Rob, Ian and Scott as musicians or members of Judas Priest.
NONE OF THAT is "the problem". The problem is announcing K.K's departure a month before the European summer-tour, when it's too late to cancel flights, rental cars, hotels and concert tickets! MAYBE I wanted the opportunity to make up my own mind whether or not I wanted to see this "alternative Priest".
I wasn't given that chance. I feel like an idiot for having been PLAYED this way, tricked into buying tickets to something that is not what I expected to see.
You wouldn't be okay if you paid for a Mercedes and someone delivered a Fiat to you door either.
People can say whatever they want, I think this was dishonest - and it doesn't really matter if it's K.K's fault, or Judas Priest's fault or the management's fault. The fact remains - I've taken vacation days and spent a lot of money on something that is not what it was being advertised as.
Sorry - but in my book, that's wrong.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Monday, April 25, 2011 12:47:17 PM
Right again. As with everything else with this band since Halford returned the bottom line has been how to milk it for as much money as possible. Nobody here needs to know why KK left, it's obvious anyway. One party can't stand the other party. The fact is Priest have been underhanded and sneaky and have ripped off their fans again, particularly European fans who bought tickets to their shows not knowing KK would not be playing. I'm pretty much fed up with them. I didn't listen to the Ripper era and I won't be listening to the Faulkner era. The reality is Judas Priest, as a band, died in 91. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Daniela P from Monday, April 25, 2011 4:32:42 AM)
Daniela P wrote:
"...they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long." Oh please.
It doesn't strike you as more likely that they were waiting because it would have affected ticket sales if they dropped the bomb earlier? They "realised" that MAYBE they should say something - a month before the tour? Yeah.
Well then, I guess we're looking at this from different angles, no doubt.
I don't know who's to blame for this mess, and I wish I did. If I hadn't been a fan, I wouldn't have cared. Unfortunately - I DO care. And they can't go hiding behind a shitty management and their bad decisions, like a three-year-old hides behind mommy's skirt when shit hits the fan.
How can I go to a Priest-show now, feeling that they are genuine? I'm sorry, I just can't. At least not unless they tell us what really happened, cause I'm not buying the lame excuses given so far.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Monday, April 25, 2011 4:53:19 AM
Good grief, alright, we get it, you're angry etc but there's no point in continuing to flog a dead horse - some people feel lied to, others don't. Excuse me for deciding I am not going to make judgements based on limited knowledge of goings on, therefore I don't feel lied to, and have not been 'lobotomized'. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Daniela P from Monday, April 25, 2011 4:48:47 AM)
Daniela P wrote:
Exactly, very well said.
If you're selling tickets for the FINAL tour of AC/DC, you'd expect Angus to be there. If you're selling tickets for the FINAL Iron Maiden tour, you would expect Steve Harris and Bruce Dickinson to be there. The list goes on - the point being that I have bought tickets for something that turns out to be something else than what was ADVERTISED.
Every single person who bought a ticket, should be given a refund and an apology. Not some stupid management-statement about what a "great show" it will be.
Don't get me wrong - the issue is not that K.K is leaving, it's not a catastrophy that there's a new dude playing guitar - I mean, for god's sake, we survived the Ripper-era!
And I don't think any less of Glenn, Rob, Ian and Scott as musicians or members of Judas Priest.
NONE OF THAT is "the problem". The problem is announcing K.K's departure a month before the European summer-tour, when it's too late to cancel flights, rental cars, hotels and concert tickets! MAYBE I wanted the opportunity to make up my own mind whether or not I wanted to see this "alternative Priest".
I wasn't given that chance. I feel like an idiot for having been PLAYED this way, tricked into buying tickets to something that is not what I expected to see.
You wouldn't be okay if you paid for a Mercedes and someone delivered a Fiat to you door either.
People can say whatever they want, I think this was dishonest - and it doesn't really matter if it's K.K's fault, or Judas Priest's fault or the management's fault. The fact remains - I've taken vacation days and spent a lot of money on something that is not what it was being advertised as.
Sorry - but in my book, that's wrong.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
Edited at: Monday, April 25, 2011 4:54:10 AM
[Daniela P] Monday, April 25, 2011 4:48:47 AM
Exactly, very well said.
If you're selling tickets for the FINAL tour of AC/DC, you'd expect Angus to be there. If you're selling tickets for the FINAL Iron Maiden tour, you would expect Steve Harris and Bruce Dickinson to be there. The list goes on - the point being that I have bought tickets for something that turns out to be something else than what was ADVERTISED.
Every single person who bought a ticket, should be given a refund and an apology. Not some stupid management-statement about what a "great show" it will be.
Don't get me wrong - the issue is not that K.K is leaving, it's not a catastrophy that there's a new dude playing guitar - I mean, for god's sake, we survived the Ripper-era!
And I don't think any less of Glenn, Rob, Ian and Scott as musicians or members of Judas Priest.
NONE OF THAT is "the problem". The problem is announcing K.K's departure a month before the European summer-tour, when it's too late to cancel flights, rental cars, hotels and concert tickets! MAYBE I wanted the opportunity to make up my own mind whether or not I wanted to see this "alternative Priest".
I wasn't given that chance. I feel like an idiot for having been PLAYED this way, tricked into buying tickets to something that is not what I expected to see.
You wouldn't be okay if you paid for a Mercedes and someone delivered a Fiat to you door either.
People can say whatever they want, I think this was dishonest - and it doesn't really matter if it's K.K's fault, or Judas Priest's fault or the management's fault. The fact remains - I've taken vacation days and spent a lot of money on something that is not what it was being advertised as.
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Monday, April 25, 2011 4:40:51 AM
Different angles indeed - I'm not so cynical as you obviously.
"...they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long." Oh please.
It doesn't strike you as more likely that they were waiting because it would have affected ticket sales if they dropped the bomb earlier? They "realised" that MAYBE they should say something - a month before the tour? Yeah.
Well then, I guess we're looking at this from different angles, no doubt.
I don't know who's to blame for this mess, and I wish I did. If I hadn't been a fan, I wouldn't have cared. Unfortunately - I DO care. And they can't go hiding behind a shitty management and their bad decisions, like a three-year-old hides behind mommy's skirt when shit hits the fan.
How can I go to a Priest-show now, feeling that they are genuine? I'm sorry, I just can't. At least not unless they tell us what really happened, cause I'm not buying the lame excuses given so far.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Daniela P] Monday, April 25, 2011 4:32:42 AM
"...they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long." Oh please.
It doesn't strike you as more likely that they were waiting because it would have affected ticket sales if they dropped the bomb earlier? They "realised" that MAYBE they should say something - a month before the tour? Yeah.
Well then, I guess we're looking at this from different angles, no doubt.
I don't know who's to blame for this mess, and I wish I did. If I hadn't been a fan, I wouldn't have cared. Unfortunately - I DO care. And they can't go hiding behind a shitty management and their bad decisions, like a three-year-old hides behind mommy's skirt when shit hits the fan.
How can I go to a Priest-show now, feeling that they are genuine? I'm sorry, I just can't. At least not unless they tell us what really happened, cause I'm not buying the lame excuses given so far.
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:24:43 PM
I agree, it's a band. I'm still going to as many shows as I can make it to. However, it is a shitty thing to do to sell tickets to people without telling them that KK has retired. They really shouldn't have booked dates without KK announcing his retirement first. I do think people have a right to be upset about that part of it. As far as KK leaving, it is his right to do so and Judas Priest has every right to continue on as a band. They have my full support - I will buy the new album and I will see them on tour as well. I have no doubt that Rob and Glenn have the ability to write an incredible album together!
Guys remember it is all done now! There is nothing you can do about it! It is times like these when we really see who loves Priest! I would spend hundreds of dollars to see Priest with or without my favorite guitarist! It was KK's playing that got me into guitar, and I am fully supportive of Judas Priest! Rob, Glenn, Ian, and Scott all need our support! So quit complaning, and get ready for an awesome show! Listen to Glenns solo albums, listen to Robs; I am sure they can pull off a album and tour together. Judas Priest is not a single person, it is an entity on its own. The Rolling Stones continued without Bill Wyman, why can't Priest countinue without KK Downing?
Point is:
Quit Bitchin'
spapad wrote:
Ouch, I think they waited, until the could not anymore. Putting on my Rosey glasses.
Head banger wrote:
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[icecreamman] Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:05:57 PM
Guys remember it is all done now! There is nothing you can do about it! It is times like these when we really see who loves Priest! I would spend hundreds of dollars to see Priest with or without my favorite guitarist! It was KK's playing that got me into guitar, and I am fully supportive of Judas Priest! Rob, Glenn, Ian, and Scott all need our support! So quit complaning, and get ready for an awesome show! Listen to Glenns solo albums, listen to Robs; I am sure they can pull off a album and tour together. Judas Priest is not a single person, it is an entity on its own. The Rolling Stones continued without Bill Wyman, why can't Priest countinue without KK Downing?
Ouch, I think they waited, until the could not anymore. Putting on my Rosey glasses.
Head banger wrote:
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:51:43 PM
Daniela P, I haven't had a lobotomy, but thank you for your concern..... to be quite honest with you, it was up to KK to announce this, not the rest of Priest. The rest of the band was giving him time to change his mind and until he announced it, they weren't going to. If you want to be pissed off at someone, then be pissed off at KK for not telling everyone back in December, if in fact, that is when he made up his mind. For all we know, he wanted to retire and was onboard with the farewell tour and THEN changed his mind. Rob said they knew before Christmas, but does that mean on December 7th when the tour was announced or later in December???? WE DON'T KNOW and most likely will not know unless someone eventually spills the beans. Judas Priest was waiting for KK to announce his leaving the band and they couldn't wait for him any longer. Notice how KK didn't even have anything to say until THE DAY AFTER Priest had no choice but to make the announcement? Having said all that, I would be seriously pissed off if I were you, spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on plane tickets, hotels and tickets to the shows only to find out much later that KK is not going to be there. Most of the people that you are yelling at are in the States and haven't bought any tickets yet. Those that have for all the shows already announced, I really can't say that I blame you for being pissed.
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:27:42 PM
Ouch, I think they waited, until the could not anymore. Putting on my Rosey glasses.
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Head banger] Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:12:28 PM
realy, I could live with them playing to gaddafi more than I can live with the idea that they sold tickets knowing kk wouldnt be there.
if they thought he would come back then fine. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:58:14 PM)
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:30:47 PM
Yeah that's true, it sucks for those who don't want to see Priest without KK but have already gotten tickets.
Yeah that sucks but at least you have that option before you purchase.
Becks wrote:
I can see how fans could be angry, I'm more disappointed than anything else. Cos if Priest make it to this part of the world, the one time I get to see them it'll be without KK but in saying that, I will still give 100% of my support to the other 4/5's of Judas Priest
jimmyjames wrote:
Hence the reason they should have waited until they knew what was going on before announcing anything, but if they did that they would have missed out on the cash that a summer tour in Europe would bring in. I would be mighty pissed off if I was a European fan. Fans in the U.S, at least, have the opportunity to decide if they want to attend or not after hearing the news.
Becks wrote:
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
jimmyjames wrote:
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:29:48 PM
Yeah that sucks but at least you have that option before you purchase. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:23:31 PM)
Becks wrote:
I can see how fans could be angry, I'm more disappointed than anything else. Cos if Priest make it to this part of the world, the one time I get to see them it'll be without KK but in saying that, I will still give 100% of my support to the other 4/5's of Judas Priest
jimmyjames wrote:
Hence the reason they should have waited until they knew what was going on before announcing anything, but if they did that they would have missed out on the cash that a summer tour in Europe would bring in. I would be mighty pissed off if I was a European fan. Fans in the U.S, at least, have the opportunity to decide if they want to attend or not after hearing the news.
Becks wrote:
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
jimmyjames wrote:
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:23:31 PM
I can see how fans could be angry, I'm more disappointed than anything else. Cos if Priest make it to this part of the world, the one time I get to see them it'll be without KK but in saying that, I will still give 100% of my support to the other 4/5's of Judas Priest
Hence the reason they should have waited until they knew what was going on before announcing anything, but if they did that they would have missed out on the cash that a summer tour in Europe would bring in. I would be mighty pissed off if I was a European fan. Fans in the U.S, at least, have the opportunity to decide if they want to attend or not after hearing the news.
Becks wrote:
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
jimmyjames wrote:
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:18:07 PM
Hence the reason they should have waited until they knew what was going on before announcing anything, but if they did that they would have missed out on the cash that a summer tour in Europe would bring in. I would be mighty pissed off if I was a European fan. Fans in the U.S, at least, have the opportunity to decide if they want to attend or not after hearing the news. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:11:27 PM)
Becks wrote:
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
jimmyjames wrote:
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:11:27 PM
I know what unethical means, but I think there's more to it and I'm not going to make any judgement on the ethics or lack thereof of it all. There also probably would have been an enormous hassle involved in re-juggling everything surrounding the shows by saying 'hang on, KK may be there or may not, we don't know yet!' - to me that would have been even insaner than what has happened. Fair enough waiting for a solid decision, from the sounds of it they waited for a long time for the final word from KK. It was all poorly handled, but I would rather it be settled than to have everything up in the air and find out when they walk out on stage, woops guess what KK is not here.
Yeah, Gaddafi would probably be very disappointed to not see KK shredding on 'Sinner', lol.
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding.
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:08:07 PM
It does not matter. JP is still going to sound good, and still going to put on an excellent show. I could care less if certain people don't want to see it. They are just missing out on a good show.
The damage is done. The rest of Priest is still very VIABLE. This tour will be worth seeing.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:06:42 PM
Unethical means that something is not right morally in the way it is conducted. If you think selling tickets under false pretences is ethical then fair play but I don't. Doing gigs for Gaddafi is fine as long as when they agree to do the gig Gadaffi is aware that he's not gonna get to see KK shredding. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:58:14 PM)
Becks wrote:
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
jimmyjames wrote:
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:58:14 PM
I think it's pretty extreme to say the fact they carried on with the decision the band made as a whole unethical. Not wise considering, to be sure, but unethical? An unethical decision would be something like if Priest accepted shit loads of money from Gaddafi for a private gig in Libya, where many people suffer every day. That is a true lack of ethics and morals. An unwise decision regarding something that, as I said, the band AS A WHOLE decided, that is not unethical by definition I don't think.
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical.
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:53:47 PM
You don't need to know the reasons for what has happened? They don't matter. The fact is they've announced a farewell tour and then six months later announced that the guy who started the band will not be taking part. Apparently they had known he wasn't happy and were hoping he'd change his mind, he didn't. They should never have announced a tour and started selling tickets until they knew what was happening, it's unethical. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:48:39 PM)
Becks wrote:
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
jimmyjames wrote:
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:50:40 PM
I gotta admit, I had a good time snooping through all the "KK is retiring! OMGZ!!!!11!" threads, and especially those "Here are MY thoughts about this" threads. Very entertaining.
See what you're missing out on, Daniela P? You wanna hear what people think goes on behind closed business doors? People who think they know what Glenn and Jayne are up to?? Look no further that the Metal Gods Quorum.
You wanna see some pissed off fans? The Q would be your best bet.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:48:39 PM
Because I honestly don't think it's a good use of my energy and time, being negative and shitting over the band like that. We don't know all the details, therefore I don't think making judgements on what has happened is wise.
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low.
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:45:49 PM
Why not? They've pulled the wool over the eyes of their fans and are making money out of it. Low. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:38:52 PM)
Becks wrote:
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
jimmyjames wrote:
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:44:25 PM
JJ, it's not good to comment on things we really don't know about.
I agree with Becks.
No sense in shitting all over this news.
Get real, this band is all approaching 60 and one already beyond. They tried to wait. Wanted to wait.
Management of Priest has been shit for years. We all know that about Curbishly management! Why they don't quit them is a mystery.
If I saw Jayne tomorrow I would punch her dead in the face!
But you wont deture me from MY FAVORITE BAND! NO MATTER HOW DEEP YOU MAKE THE BULL SHIT.
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
You wanna see some pissed off fans? The Q would be your best bet.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:41:12 PM
You wanna see some pissed off fans? The Q would be your best bet.
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:38:52 PM
Yeah it does stink, but I am not going to attack the band over it (management, maybe, lol). I recognise that the end of Judas Priest is nigh - I mean, they're pretty old dudes, not that much younger than my dad, and my dad wouldn't be able to rock out every night on stage anymore (if that was his profession) LOL! So I am going to embrace the band as I always have, enjoy the last bit of the ride, and be thankful for all the many years they have given us of their talent, time, and music.
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry.
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[jimmyjames] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:36:00 PM
She's right though Becks. What they have done is sold tickets under false pretences. Whether it's the band or their management doing it, who cares? It stinks. As I said in my first post on this subject, what would everybody be saying if AC/DC sold a shitload of tickets and then announced Angus would not be there? There would be an outcry. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:27:24 PM)
Becks wrote:
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
Daniela P wrote:
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Becks] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:27:24 PM
Just because we're not crucifying the band the way you are doesn't mean we're not taking it seriously you twit. As for being lied to, if you have read Rob Halfords statement, they had waiting so long in the hope that KK would COME BACK. They finally realised the clock had ticked too long. It has been poorly handled by Priest MANAGEMENT, but I for one refuse to shit all over the band and treat them like crap because of this.
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
spapad wrote:
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[Daniela P] Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:19:26 PM
It's funny... either people are totally lobotomized or they haven't been following this at all. It's amazing how lightly people are taking the situation- all I see is comments about how "it will be good and I will support the band".
How can it be "good" when you've been lied to for 6 months you suckers.... Unbelievable.
And to think that some no-name dude is going to make the show better...? The best he can do is stay the hell out of the spotlight as much as he can and let Ian step out for a change. But it still won't change much. If I was in Priest, I wouldn't have been able to even walk out on a stage and look the fans in the eyes. I would have been too ashamed of what's being done in the name of Judas Priest.
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:29:02 PM
I don't want to pour salt into wounds, but what would a show be like with a guitar player almost 30 years their junior on stage? I hate to say it, but I think he is going to step the pace up! This might be the most energetic we have seen Priest in years. Don't get me wrong, you know how much I love KK and if you don't just read my profile quote. But the prospect of new blood does pose the opportunity of more action, and a hard driven show?
Just putting the idea out there. A new way to look at things. Instead of demise, what about rebirth? Could happen.
KK, you know I will always love you! Would beg you on my knees to come back! But if no, I must look forward to something positive coming from this.
[spapad] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:18:30 PM
Then give us a new pic of you Freeze, just to prove that minimalization of girth. lol
You do look like you dropped a few lbs. these days.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! GREAT pic, guids!! If you look closely, THAT pic of me is AWFUL ( as are so many of them). That was about 30 lbs ago!! Seriously! This "rock star" crap has been rather demanding on my girth.... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish we had a few shots from the the DTE CENTER!!!! BWAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
guidogodoy wrote:
Heh....
[Deep Freeze] Sunday, April 24, 2011 2:12:55 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! GREAT pic, guids!! If you look closely, THAT pic of me is AWFUL ( as are so many of them). That was about 30 lbs ago!! Seriously! This "rock star" crap has been rather demanding on my girth.... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish we had a few shots from the the DTE CENTER!!!! BWAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:26:33 PM)
but in saying that, I will still give 100% of my support to the other 4/5's of Judas Priest 
