Your post is offensive. Giving hate speech an outlet anywhere in this world should not be tolorated. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Head banger] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:54:52 PM
now of course it wont work, but it would be a great idea. should requre all to have a licence to procreate also
Ron, your exactly right. we need to find the good in all and eliminate the bad in all. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:43:56 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Best idea I've heard so far.
Head banger wrote:
here's an idea for you all. I know it wont work, and cant be done, but what about requiring only mixed race children. soon everyone would be the same, and the birthrate would drop, saving the planet from overpopulation.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Then don't just sit there!! Go out there and increase the population of white people in the US!! I read an article not too long ago saying that you guys are going to be the minority group in fifty years, with latinos being the new majority. In other words, you're going to see more people like me on the streets of L.A.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[ron h] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:44:39 PM
I couldn't disagree with your post more. You can talk about specific incidents that cover all races and religions for both the good and the bad all day long and the bottom line is that there's good and bad in all. How we deal with it is what makes the difference.
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
here's an idea for you all. I know it wont work, and cant be done, but what about requiring only mixed race children. soon everyone would be the same, and the birthrate would drop, saving the planet from overpopulation.
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Then don't just sit there!! Go out there and increase the population of white people in the US!! I read an article not too long ago saying that you guys are going to be the minority group in fifty years, with latinos being the new majority. In other words, you're going to see more people like me on the streets of L.A.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Head banger] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:39:34 PM
here's an idea for you all. I know it wont work, and cant be done, but what about requiring only mixed race children. soon everyone would be the same, and the birthrate would drop, saving the planet from overpopulation. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:20:52 PM)
Vaillant 3.0 wrote:
Then don't just sit there!! Go out there and increase the population of white people in the US!! I read an article not too long ago saying that you guys are going to be the minority group in fifty years, with latinos being the new majority. In other words, you're going to see more people like me on the streets of L.A.
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:20:52 PM
Then don't just sit there!! Go out there and increase the population of white people in the US!! I read an article not too long ago saying that you guys are going to be the minority group in fifty years, with latinos being the new majority. In other words, you're going to see more people like me on the streets of L.A. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:14:48 PM
I don't think that's a very fair statement. It doesn't matter about the colour of someones skin - all it takes is for a despot to say the right things and they then have people eating out of their hands, so to speak. Look at Romania. Ceaucescu was white, and he well and truely fucked that country. It's been 21 years since the fall of the iron curtain and Romania has still not recovered. It may never recover from how much he screwed them over. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Head banger] Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:58:58 AM
I dont know if generalizations like that work, but I do know that our liberals have got the wrong idea on solving the problem. Here in the last election the main idea that the New Democratic Party had for crime reduction was to reduce the gap in incomes between rich and poor. seriously, how is taking money from bill gates and giving it to a bunch of slackers going to help? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Craig Wagenhoffer from Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM)
Craig Wagenhoffer wrote:
I've lived in Los Angeles all my life and I can tell you this: black people are born troublemakers. It's something in their blood. They like to raise hell and cause destruction. The males especially. Check out this video of the LA riots in '92. It's mind boggling:
I know what I'm talking about, because I was there during the spring of 1992, when all hell broke loose.
The Africans are making a mess out of it and the whites just don't care. That's because we have lost every sense of community, patriotism and self-respect. We do not stand united. We do not help eachother out. Today individualism reigns supreme. We don't give a shit. We are being brainwashed by the liberal media.
The situation is taking a turn for the worse in South Africa and in the US. Europe will soon follow. The European continent is being flooded by african muslims as we speak. They are usurpers. The native Europeans are to become a minority on their own continent. Countries like France and the UK have the power to increase their native population if they want but the politicians who are in charge obviously don't care.
This is what a former African leader said in 1974:
"One day millions of men will leave the southern hemisphere to go to the northern hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."
Here's another interesting quote by an infamous African leader:
"There are 50 million muslims in Europe as we speak. The 50 million muslims of Europe will turn it into a muslim continent within a few decades." Edited at: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:38:10 AM
[Craig Wagenhoffer] Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:37:27 AM
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[Necroticist] Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:13:47 AM
LOL - i think Nick was a bit before ur time...we make a decent comedy act... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:51:06 AM)
joedraper wrote:
lol Ok I"ll nip out to the shops and stock up
Necroticist wrote:
Soz Joe - was miles away - will join ya in the room soon...am bringing an old friend back...lol. 'The Terrible Two' will be back in action...be prepared... (i find that incontinence knickers help ;) )
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:51:06 AM
lol Ok I"ll nip out to the shops and stock up [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Necroticist from Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:40:30 AM)
Necroticist wrote:
Soz Joe - was miles away - will join ya in the room soon...am bringing an old friend back...lol. 'The Terrible Two' will be back in action...be prepared... (i find that incontinence knickers help ;) )
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:42:12 AM
Well Becks, that's the thing. Everyday I read in the papers about farm murders. The black people here are pretty much obliterating the farmers. The farm murders are 9 times out of 10 men getting shot after watching their wives and daughters raped or elderly people getting brutally murdered just because they are white and living on a farm. I found a page on facebook for the 'save or farmers' campaign. Against my better judgement I looked at some of the photos on the page and I still can't get the images out of my mind. An old man, bludgeoned to death. A women with her breasts burnt off, a baby burnt etc.. And then the blacks in the townships have this thing called necklacing.. ever heard of that?
If one of their own goes against them for whatever reason they put a tire around the victims neck and set them alight. Stand their whilst one of their own burns to death.
Population is around 49 million and white people make up barely 10% of the population. If (and I'm starting to believe in my heart that it willl) things go south.. we're pretty screwed.
I had so much hope when the first ever democratic elections took place. I was 15 and seeing it was amazing.. I have to wonder if Mandela still has his faculties at 92 years old.. Does he look at what is happening here and think to himself.. 'This is not how I envisioned it to be?'
50 murders a day? I'd say closer to 100 due to the farm attacks.
Ok I just read some stats on South Africa in an article for one of NZs newspapers, about Terreblanches murder and violence which may occur because of it in SA etc. Not saying this for any reason other than I was amazed and saddened by these stats (SAs population is about 49 million):
"The South African Police say there are 60 murders a day in the country. The Department of Home Affairs puts the figure at 83. Interpol believes the murder total in the Republic is 149 a day. That means, depending on whom you believe, that South Africa has as few as 21,000 murders a year or as many as 55,000 a year."
"Other stats. Between April 2005 and March 2006 there were in South Africa 18,500 murders, 20,500 attempted murders and 55,000 rapes. There were a quarter of a million assaults with intent to cause grievous bodily harm. Ten per cent of South Africans live with HIV/Aids - over five million people. Average life expectancy in South Africa is 50 years. Unemployment is some 25 per cent - a figure that is roughly unchanged since 1998, and that kind of rate, as we know here, is a recipe for violent disaster."
[Necroticist] Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:40:30 AM
Soz Joe - was miles away - will join ya in the room soon...am bringing an old friend back...lol. 'The Terrible Two' will be back in action...be prepared... (i find that incontinence knickers help ;) ) [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:09:12 AM)
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:04:14 AM
Ok I just read some stats on South Africa in an article for one of NZs newspapers, about Terreblanches murder and violence which may occur because of it in SA etc. Not saying this for any reason other than I was amazed and saddened by these stats (SAs population is about 49 million):
"The South African Police say there are 60 murders a day in the country. The Department of Home Affairs puts the figure at 83. Interpol believes the murder total in the Republic is 149 a day. That means, depending on whom you believe, that South Africa has as few as 21,000 murders a year or as many as 55,000 a year."
"Other stats. Between April 2005 and March 2006 there were in South Africa 18,500 murders, 20,500 attempted murders and 55,000 rapes. There were a quarter of a million assaults with intent to cause grievous bodily harm. Ten per cent of South Africans live with HIV/Aids - over five million people. Average life expectancy in South Africa is 50 years. Unemployment is some 25 per cent - a figure that is roughly unchanged since 1998, and that kind of rate, as we know here, is a recipe for violent disaster."
[Becks] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:45:34 AM
Joe, like JJ said, you'd be more than welcome here. And yep, at the end of the day, it's just racism, not freedom. Any type of prejudice is extremely dangerous. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:58:01 PM)
joedraper wrote:
JJ..I think you've hit it straight on. I have some family living in NZ and I doubt we would be lucky enough to see 20 years before it all goes south here. Since this ET murder, all extremists are waging wars. What I don't understand is that most of our soccar/football fans here are black. Murdering a high profile white supremist here just before the soccar world cup is like shooting one self in the foot is it nott? I just don't get it. What we are having in SA right now is not freedom it is racism reversed.
jimmyjames wrote:
It's been happening since the end of apartheid, I'm sure that it's been noticed in SA since then. It's just that now it's becoming evident to the rest of the world. I'm not racist but any country with blacks in charge, I wouldn't want to live there. Corruption and killing is rife and many ( black included ) suffer and starve while the king/president lives in the lap of luxury. It's like putting a child in charge. Rhodesia is a classic example. SA will be like Rhodesia, if not worse, in 20 years I think. Joe, you'd be more than welcome down here. Most South Africans I've talked to love it, but you might prefer Aussie if you're a sun lover.
joedraper wrote:
It is so sad because this is really a beautiful place to live but the politics make it so unsafe. My children sing the national anthem with pride..(bear in mind their ages) and they call this place home. I saw a site that was called Save Our Farmers and the things I saw there are probably why I can't sleep. I so badly want this to work out but I don't see how. Juli-ass Malema (As his much despised white journalists call him) Thinks Zim is doing just fine. If this is the case... Why do we have so many Zimbabweans seeking refuge here?
Regretfully, I may have to move my family to the UK or Australia.
Becks wrote:
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[guidogodoy] Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:31:18 AM
Wow...and people say DETROIT is dangerous. I see no comparison.
Even Brazil or México (certain parts now like Ciudad Juárez) are incredibly dangerous but it is usually petty crime or drug hits.
Sending good thoughts your way, Joe. Stay safe and do keep us posted.
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:58:01 PM
JJ..I think you've hit it straight on. I have some family living in NZ and I doubt we would be lucky enough to see 20 years before it all goes south here. Since this ET murder, all extremists are waging wars. What I don't understand is that most of our soccar/football fans here are black. Murdering a high profile white supremist here just before the soccar world cup is like shooting one self in the foot is it nott? I just don't get it. What we are having in SA right now is not freedom it is racism reversed. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:47:28 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
It's been happening since the end of apartheid, I'm sure that it's been noticed in SA since then. It's just that now it's becoming evident to the rest of the world. I'm not racist but any country with blacks in charge, I wouldn't want to live there. Corruption and killing is rife and many ( black included ) suffer and starve while the king/president lives in the lap of luxury. It's like putting a child in charge. Rhodesia is a classic example. SA will be like Rhodesia, if not worse, in 20 years I think. Joe, you'd be more than welcome down here. Most South Africans I've talked to love it, but you might prefer Aussie if you're a sun lover.
joedraper wrote:
It is so sad because this is really a beautiful place to live but the politics make it so unsafe. My children sing the national anthem with pride..(bear in mind their ages) and they call this place home. I saw a site that was called Save Our Farmers and the things I saw there are probably why I can't sleep. I so badly want this to work out but I don't see how. Juli-ass Malema (As his much despised white journalists call him) Thinks Zim is doing just fine. If this is the case... Why do we have so many Zimbabweans seeking refuge here?
Regretfully, I may have to move my family to the UK or Australia.
Becks wrote:
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[jimmyjames] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:47:28 PM
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[Becks] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:28:16 PM
There are many many Zimbabweans here in NZ, they fled once the killing of farmers started several years ago. I think they were given asylum as refugees.
I really hope everything works out there Joe, but it looks like a slippery slope unfortunately. I'm so sorry you feel like your home is unsafe for you now - that's not a position anyone should EVER be put in. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:25:06 PM)
joedraper wrote:
It is so sad because this is really a beautiful place to live but the politics make it so unsafe. My children sing the national anthem with pride..(bear in mind their ages) and they call this place home. I saw a site that was called Save Our Farmers and the things I saw there are probably why I can't sleep. I so badly want this to work out but I don't see how. Juli-ass Malema (As his much despised white journalists call him) Thinks Zim is doing just fine. If this is the case... Why do we have so many Zimbabweans seeking refuge here?
Regretfully, I may have to move my family to the UK or Australia.
Becks wrote:
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:25:06 PM
It is so sad because this is really a beautiful place to live but the politics make it so unsafe. My children sing the national anthem with pride..(bear in mind their ages) and they call this place home. I saw a site that was called Save Our Farmers and the things I saw there are probably why I can't sleep. I so badly want this to work out but I don't see how. Juli-ass Malema (As his much despised white journalists call him) Thinks Zim is doing just fine. If this is the case... Why do we have so many Zimbabweans seeking refuge here?
Regretfully, I may have to move my family to the UK or Australia. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Becks from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:20:26 PM)
Becks wrote:
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[Becks] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:20:26 PM
It's a scary situation Joe. I agree with JJ, from an outsiders point of view, SA does seem to be going the way of Zimbabwe, which is sad. If I was you, I'd very much want to up sticks and go somewhere my children would be safe. That's just me though. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:43:11 PM)
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:03:27 PM
Spa, This guy who was murdered on Easter weekend was an extreme left winger (nost my kinda guy lol) but there is a dude singing hate songs containing the lyrics 'Shoot the farmer, kill the boer (boer is Afrikaans for farmer) less than a week after he is gagged from singing this song the Left Winger is hacked to death and now I hear reports that he is sodomised....They do not care that I am not a 'boer' they just want to kill all who are white. I am not so much afraid for me as I am for my two children. As you know my son is 5 and my daoughter on friday turned 3. What is in store for them? My only viable options are risk their lives or back to UK.... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:54:03 PM)
spapad wrote:
My god, Joe so sorry to hear things have come to that. I would say just get up and move the hell out of there, but that would be ignorance talking. You know the climate, but still it does not look safe. Of course I'm sure you are like me if I were faced with such a change. I would want to get the hell out but it is also a matter of economics. Nothing but good thoughts to you Joe and I hope you find the proper solution for you and your family. I would be terrified to live in such a state.
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
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[spapad] Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:54:03 PM
My god, Joe so sorry to hear things have come to that. I would say just get up and move the hell out of there, but that would be ignorance talking. You know the climate, but still it does not look safe. Of course I'm sure you are like me if I were faced with such a change. I would want to get the hell out but it is also a matter of economics. Nothing but good thoughts to you Joe and I hope you find the proper solution for you and your family. I would be terrified to live in such a state. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:43:11 PM)
joedraper wrote:
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger.
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:43:11 PM
JJ feel no need to apologize ( I am a white female who is living here) Never have I felt so afraid, one of our 'major' political 'hopefuls' Julias Malema is advocating the murder of farmers and the rape of white women (er... that would be me) His policy leaders do nothing about this more. He chased a british journalist out of a conference hearing for bringing up the obvious. I am very afraid. I don't want to leave here but I see no safety in staying. Throughout my life I have defended this country. Is white genocide happening here (they don't care if we're 'boers' or not. If you are white you are in danger. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:17:54 PM)
jimmyjames wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also.
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[jimmyjames] Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:17:54 PM
Don't take this the wrong way but South Africa's going the same way as Rhodesia. The number of South Africans immigrating to NZ is unbelievable. In my job I've had the opportunity to talk to a lot of them and they just feel as if there's nothing for them there anymore. I've got a couple of really good friends who live in Johannesburg and I know they're about two seconds away from leaving also. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by joedraper from Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:09:12 AM)
joedraper wrote:
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
Necroticist wrote:
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[joedraper] Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:09:12 AM
G'mornin' Stevo! lol
How's you doing? I've been trying to recover after a visit from mom & her husband.. Think my lungs are just about recovered lol. Then Zoey's birthday yesterday resulted in me running around for two days straight trying to bring everything together. Phew! Way too busy.. Anyone heard about the shit going on in my country round about now? Crazy shit.. I hope it isn't going to result in me seeking home on different shores but first time in my life I've been worried.
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[Necroticist] Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:18:22 AM
gah - it's just too pathetic to reply to...and we all know who's gonna be the one that ends up sad, lonely and most likely in an institution...
[Becks] Friday, April 09, 2010 11:45:15 PM
Yawn. Go back to your cave. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic from Friday, April 09, 2010 10:02:23 PM)
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
FUCK YOU OLD SPA OLD MAID..NO MAN WANTS YOU ANYWAYSE..UR SOO PATHETHIC,THATS WHY U HANG AROUND HERE ON JP AND TRY TO GET A MAN ATTENTION..UR GOING TO STAY ALL ALONE ..LMAO..IF U THINK I CARE ABOUT WHAT U ALL ARE SAYING ABOUT ME,I DONT LISTEN TO STUPID AND RETARD PEOPLE LIKE URSELVES..UR SOO JEALOUS OF ANGELIC THATS WHY..
spapad wrote:
By far the most pathetic postings since Norman. Are you two related?? Bipolar much?
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
HERE TO STEVE AND HIS BITCH ANGELIC STORM..HAPPY FUCKING EVERYTHING..LMAO
CHAMPAGNE FOR 2..
BRAINS FOR TWO..THEY NEED IT..SOO STUPID..
TRUE BLOOD..STEVE SUPPOSE TO LIKE TO SUCK THE BLOOD OF HIS FEMALE WHORES..
STEVE AND ANGELIC..ENJOY..
MYSHELLA /DEB..LMAO JUST SOO PATHETHIC..GROW UP GIRL..
FUCK YOU OLD SPA OLD MAID..NO MAN WANTS YOU ANYWAYSE..UR SOO PATHETHIC,THATS WHY U HANG AROUND HERE ON JP AND TRY TO GET A MAN ATTENTION..UR GOING TO STAY ALL ALONE ..LMAO..IF U THINK I CARE ABOUT WHAT U ALL ARE SAYING ABOUT ME,I DONT LISTEN TO STUPID AND RETARD PEOPLE LIKE URSELVES..UR SOO JEALOUS OF ANGELIC THATS WHY..
spapad wrote:
By far the most pathetic postings since Norman. Are you two related?? Bipolar much?
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
HERE TO STEVE AND HIS BITCH ANGELIC STORM..HAPPY FUCKING EVERYTHING..LMAO
CHAMPAGNE FOR 2..
BRAINS FOR TWO..THEY NEED IT..SOO STUPID..
TRUE BLOOD..STEVE SUPPOSE TO LIKE TO SUCK THE BLOOD OF HIS FEMALE WHORES..
STEVE AND ANGELIC..ENJOY..
MYSHELLA /DEB..LMAO JUST SOO PATHETHIC..GROW UP GIRL..
[xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic] Friday, April 09, 2010 10:02:23 PM
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[spapad] Friday, April 09, 2010 9:41:20 PM
By far the most pathetic postings since Norman. Are you two related?? Bipolar much? [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic from Friday, April 09, 2010 9:36:19 PM)
xnecro'sgirl a.k.a sweet angelic wrote:
HERE TO STEVE AND HIS BITCH ANGELIC STORM..HAPPY FUCKING EVERYTHING..LMAO
CHAMPAGNE FOR 2..
BRAINS FOR TWO..THEY NEED IT..SOO STUPID..
TRUE BLOOD..STEVE SUPPOSE TO LIKE TO SUCK THE BLOOD OF HIS FEMALE WHORES..
STEVE AND ANGELIC..ENJOY..
MYSHELLA /DEB..LMAO JUST SOO PATHETHIC..GROW UP GIRL..
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[spapad] Monday, April 05, 2010 7:23:12 AM
Happy Birthday Koen! Hope you and the family are all doing well. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Monday, April 05, 2010 2:15:34 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
mmmmm all those tasty eggs sure gonna eat some now it's my birthday moehahahahaha
Hi everyone hope everyone is doing fine
for the moment here is everything is going good
xxxxxxx gonna enjoy the kids and the family before i have to go to work
talk to you all later
[ShadowVT] Monday, April 05, 2010 2:15:34 AM
mmmmm all those tasty eggs sure gonna eat some now it's my birthday moehahahahaha
Hi everyone hope everyone is doing fine
for the moment here is everything is going good
xxxxxxx gonna enjoy the kids and the family before i have to go to work
talk to you all later
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[spapad] Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:03:01 PM
Many Hugs to you Ellieke!
The only thing that matters now is your family and Yolientje's recovery. Stay the strong beutiful woman you are and know we all want everything to work out, and we keep you in our thoughts and prayers. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Ellieke from Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:53:26 AM)
Ellieke wrote:
Hi everybody,
Thank you all for the nice support!!!! I'm having a realy difficult time organizing everything but mostly accepting the fact that one of our angels has cancer.
I'm truely sorry that I didn't replay sooner but I do read everything you nice and caring people write.
I'm finally home from 7 days of hospital and I'm glad to be home with my other baby's.
Everyday we need to drive 150km to go to the hospital and yesterday we needed to stay over for one night.
She's doing very well but we aren't there yet. The first 7 monds are the hardest but we won't give in!!
We do have 14 days of rest now but only because she's getting very heavy chemo so she needs some rest to.
Anyway, I'm didn't forget you all but I'm so busy all the time getting everything and everyone ready.
Love you all and thank you again for the loving support !!!!
XXXX
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:54:26 PM
My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family. Stay strong and know that we are all here supporting you in your fight. Rest and enjoy your time together, we are all thinking of you. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Ellieke from Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:53:26 AM)
Ellieke wrote:
Hi everybody,
Thank you all for the nice support!!!! I'm having a realy difficult time organizing everything but mostly accepting the fact that one of our angels has cancer.
I'm truely sorry that I didn't replay sooner but I do read everything you nice and caring people write.
I'm finally home from 7 days of hospital and I'm glad to be home with my other baby's.
Everyday we need to drive 150km to go to the hospital and yesterday we needed to stay over for one night.
She's doing very well but we aren't there yet. The first 7 monds are the hardest but we won't give in!!
We do have 14 days of rest now but only because she's getting very heavy chemo so she needs some rest to.
Anyway, I'm didn't forget you all but I'm so busy all the time getting everything and everyone ready.
Love you all and thank you again for the loving support !!!!
XXXX
[Becks] Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:34:53 PM
Don't apologise for not being here Koen, I think I can speak for everyone when I say it's completely understandable - your place is with your family right now. Thank you for updating us, sending love and best wishes your families way. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Ellieke from Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:53:26 AM)
Ellieke wrote:
Hi everybody,
Thank you all for the nice support!!!! I'm having a realy difficult time organizing everything but mostly accepting the fact that one of our angels has cancer.
I'm truely sorry that I didn't replay sooner but I do read everything you nice and caring people write.
I'm finally home from 7 days of hospital and I'm glad to be home with my other baby's.
Everyday we need to drive 150km to go to the hospital and yesterday we needed to stay over for one night.
She's doing very well but we aren't there yet. The first 7 monds are the hardest but we won't give in!!
We do have 14 days of rest now but only because she's getting very heavy chemo so she needs some rest to.
Anyway, I'm didn't forget you all but I'm so busy all the time getting everything and everyone ready.
Love you all and thank you again for the loving support !!!!
XXXX
[Ellieke] Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:53:26 AM
Hi everybody,
Thank you all for the nice support!!!! I'm having a realy difficult time organizing everything but mostly accepting the fact that one of our angels has cancer.
I'm truely sorry that I didn't replay sooner but I do read everything you nice and caring people write.
I'm finally home from 7 days of hospital and I'm glad to be home with my other baby's.
Everyday we need to drive 150km to go to the hospital and yesterday we needed to stay over for one night.
She's doing very well but we aren't there yet. The first 7 monds are the hardest but we won't give in!!
We do have 14 days of rest now but only because she's getting very heavy chemo so she needs some rest to.
Anyway, I'm didn't forget you all but I'm so busy all the time getting everything and everyone ready.
Love you all and thank you again for the loving support !!!!
XXXX
[ShadowVT] Friday, February 26, 2010 7:26:49 AM
Hi Deepfreeze and spapad
Thank you for your kind and supporting words, it did me really good to read them during my nightshift and helped me thru the hard hours
Today yolientje has gone back to hospital and they have resumed the treatment with chemo
but she also needed another blood transfusion because it was again falling bellow minimun levels.
hopefully we can continue the treatment because everytime they stop it gives a greater risk that the lukemia cancer can grow again.
let's hope she continues to evolve in the good direction
ps. thanks everybody for the support
we judas fans must stick together no matter what
greets
ShadowVT
[Nicky007] Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:29:06 AM
My love and prayers too.
Nicky.
[spapad] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:41:55 PM
Koen and Elike, so sad to hear this turn of events, but you must stay strong and show her only your best, which I'm sure you do. I shall pray for your family, and pray for a break in the clouds. Surely the darkest of times can bring forth the greatest light. Never give up, stay strong and know we all here hope and pray for the best.
As a parent, I too would feel so helpless, when we are pushed to believe in more than we ever wanted to, that is when we find our inner strength, and find that something extra to keep going. Stay strong and never give up. We are all praying for the best results. My love and prayers I send to you my dear friends. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:07:38 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Sitting here @ work doing the nightshift, had so much trouble with myself that i wanted to write it down,
it is not good news for the moment, the second fase of the treatment was going good untill last friday
when we went back to hospital for her next treatment we received the news that her bloodcells are in a falling state
and that she is getting to weak to continue with the treatment so they had to do a blood transfussion
we then had to wait untill today to check if they could restart the treatment with chemo
but the result were bad even worse than last friday, our daughter has even been put in a higher risk level for infections and germs
we noticed it yesterday when she got spontanious nosebleeds and her color turned totaly pale.
it's getting to be so hard on everybody and aspecialy yolientje,
sitting here with tears running out of my eyes because the suffering of our daughter is getting to be to much
and now this bad news on top is enough to even brake me down.
pls oh pls let her get better because i don't know what i would do if i would lose her
i hope that nobody else will have to go trough this it is a parents hell
i would give my life to make her better, i know we have to get past this but is sooooo hard
thank you everybody for your support
ShadowVT
Edited at: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:09:06 PM
[hellrider 31038] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:15:54 PM
dont lose faith, keep positive.your daugter is in my prayers [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:07:38 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Sitting here @ work doing the nightshift, had so much trouble with myself that i wanted to write it down,
it is not good news for the moment, the second fase of the treatment was going good untill last friday
when we went back to hospital for her next treatment we received the news that her bloodcells are in a falling state
and that she is getting to weak to continue with the treatment so they had to do a blood transfussion
we then had to wait untill today to check if they could restart the treatment with chemo
but the result were bad even worse than last friday, our daughter has even been put in a higher risk level for infections and germs
we noticed it yesterday when she got spontanious nosebleeds and her color turned totaly pale.
it's getting to be so hard on everybody and aspecialy yolientje,
sitting here with tears running out of my eyes because the suffering of our daughter is getting to be to much
and now this bad news on top is enough to even brake me down.
pls oh pls let her get better because i don't know what i would do if i would lose her
i hope that nobody else will have to go trough this it is a parents hell
i would give my life to make her better, i know we have to get past this but is sooooo hard
thank you everybody for your support
ShadowVT
Edited at: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:09:06 PM
[Deep Freeze] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:54:07 PM
Koen, I know that there are no words that can be said which will magically take away your pain and fright. I know that you and Ellie are in quite likely the most dreadful and heartbreaking situation a parent can possibly face. There is nothing we as mere humans can offer you but our sincere love and support and, in spite of the trolls, imposters and other losers that seem to infiltrate our community from time to time, we are still here. We rise above it all and we are here for you.
I cannot say that I know what you are feeling, because I don't. I cannot say I know that it will all be OK, because I don't. I can actually see the pain in your words and my heart aches for you. No one should have to face such anguish. No one. You can rest assured that, no matter what happens in your lives, we will be here for you. We are here to lend you a "shoulder" to cry on or simply to listen to you. We will always have that for you. Always.
Know that there is so much hope and positive thoughts here for you guys. If I can offer you anything, it would be this;
Disease and health, like circumstances, are rooted in thought. Strong, pure and happy thoughts build up vigor and grace. The body is a delicate instrument which responds readily to the thoughts by which it is impressed. There is no physician like cheerful thought to dissipate the ills of the body. There is no comfort like good will for dispersing the shadows of grief and sorrow. To think well, be cheerful and patiently learn to find the good is to find the portals of heaven. To dwell, day by day, in thoughts of peace and happiness will bring you abounding peace and happiness. All my very best to you, my dear friend.
Sitting here @ work doing the nightshift, had so much trouble with myself that i wanted to write it down,
it is not good news for the moment, the second fase of the treatment was going good untill last friday
when we went back to hospital for her next treatment we received the news that her bloodcells are in a falling state
and that she is getting to weak to continue with the treatment so they had to do a blood transfussion
we then had to wait untill today to check if they could restart the treatment with chemo
but the result were bad even worse than last friday, our daughter has even been put in a higher risk level for infections and germs
we noticed it yesterday when she got spontanious nosebleeds and her color turned totaly pale.
it's getting to be so hard on everybody and aspecialy yolientje,
sitting here with tears running out of my eyes because the suffering of our daughter is getting to be to much
and now this bad news on top is enough to even brake me down.
pls oh pls let her get better because i don't know what i would do if i would lose her
i hope that nobody else will have to go trough this it is a parents hell
i would give my life to make her better, i know we have to get past this but is sooooo hard
thank you everybody for your support
ShadowVT
Edited at: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:09:06 PM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:43:41 PM
My thoughts go out to you and yours as well. VERY sorry to read of the setback and let's hope it just that...a setback.
Sitting here @ work doing the nightshift, had so much trouble with myself that i wanted to write it down,
it is not good news for the moment, the second fase of the treatment was going good untill last friday
when we went back to hospital for her next treatment we received the news that her bloodcells are in a falling state
and that she is getting to weak to continue with the treatment so they had to do a blood transfussion
we then had to wait untill today to check if they could restart the treatment with chemo
but the result were bad even worse than last friday, our daughter has even been put in a higher risk level for infections and germs
we noticed it yesterday when she got spontanious nosebleeds and her color turned totaly pale.
it's getting to be so hard on everybody and aspecialy yolientje,
sitting here with tears running out of my eyes because the suffering of our daughter is getting to be to much
and now this bad news on top is enough to even brake me down.
pls oh pls let her get better because i don't know what i would do if i would lose her
i hope that nobody else will have to go trough this it is a parents hell
i would give my life to make her better, i know we have to get past this but is sooooo hard
thank you everybody for your support
ShadowVT
Edited at: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:09:06 PM
[J.D. DIAMOND] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:22:46 PM
My best wishes also ShadowVT,we are all pulling for a strong recovery as well. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:07:38 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Sitting here @ work doing the nightshift, had so much trouble with myself that i wanted to write it down,
it is not good news for the moment, the second fase of the treatment was going good untill last friday
when we went back to hospital for her next treatment we received the news that her bloodcells are in a falling state
and that she is getting to weak to continue with the treatment so they had to do a blood transfussion
we then had to wait untill today to check if they could restart the treatment with chemo
but the result were bad even worse than last friday, our daughter has even been put in a higher risk level for infections and germs
we noticed it yesterday when she got spontanious nosebleeds and her color turned totaly pale.
it's getting to be so hard on everybody and aspecialy yolientje,
sitting here with tears running out of my eyes because the suffering of our daughter is getting to be to much
and now this bad news on top is enough to even brake me down.
pls oh pls let her get better because i don't know what i would do if i would lose her
i hope that nobody else will have to go trough this it is a parents hell
i would give my life to make her better, i know we have to get past this but is sooooo hard
thank you everybody for your support
ShadowVT
Edited at: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:09:06 PM
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:18:19 PM
Sitting here @ work doing the nightshift, had so much trouble with myself that i wanted to write it down,
it is not good news for the moment, the second fase of the treatment was going good untill last friday
when we went back to hospital for her next treatment we received the news that her bloodcells are in a falling state
and that she is getting to weak to continue with the treatment so they had to do a blood transfussion
we then had to wait untill today to check if they could restart the treatment with chemo
but the result were bad even worse than last friday, our daughter has even been put in a higher risk level for infections and germs
we noticed it yesterday when she got spontanious nosebleeds and her color turned totaly pale.
it's getting to be so hard on everybody and aspecialy yolientje,
sitting here with tears running out of my eyes because the suffering of our daughter is getting to be to much
and now this bad news on top is enough to even brake me down.
pls oh pls let her get better because i don't know what i would do if i would lose her
i hope that nobody else will have to go trough this it is a parents hell
i would give my life to make her better, i know we have to get past this but is sooooo hard
thank you everybody for your support
ShadowVT
Edited at: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:09:06 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:14:45 PM
I'm sorry to hear you girls has had a setback, Koen. I have everything crossed that she starts to improve! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:07:38 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Sitting here @ work doing the nightshift, had so much trouble with myself that i wanted to write it down,
it is not good news for the moment, the second fase of the treatment was going good untill last friday
when we went back to hospital for her next treatment we received the news that her bloodcells are in a falling state
and that she is getting to weak to continue with the treatment so they had to do a blood transfussion
we then had to wait untill today to check if they could restart the treatment with chemo
but the result were bad even worse than last friday, our daughter has even been put in a higher risk level for infections and germs
we noticed it yesterday when she got spontanious nosebleeds and her color turned totaly pale.
it's getting to be so hard on everybody and aspecialy yolientje,
sitting here with tears running out of my eyes because the suffering of our daughter is getting to be to much
and now this bad news on top is enough to even brake me down.
pls oh pls let her get better because i don't know what i would do if i would lose her
i hope that nobody else will have to go trough this it is a parents hell
i would give my life to make her better, i know we have to get past this but is sooooo hard
thank you everybody for your support
ShadowVT
Edited at: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:09:06 PM
[ShadowVT] Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:07:38 PM
Sitting here @ work doing the nightshift, had so much trouble with myself that i wanted to write it down,
it is not good news for the moment, the second fase of the treatment was going good untill last friday
when we went back to hospital for her next treatment we received the news that her bloodcells are in a falling state
and that she is getting to weak to continue with the treatment so they had to do a blood transfussion
we then had to wait untill today to check if they could restart the treatment with chemo
but the result were bad even worse than last friday, our daughter has even been put in a higher risk level for infections and germs
we noticed it yesterday when she got spontanious nosebleeds and her color turned totaly pale.
it's getting to be so hard on everybody and aspecialy yolientje,
sitting here with tears running out of my eyes because the suffering of our daughter is getting to be to much
and now this bad news on top is enough to even brake me down.
pls oh pls let her get better because i don't know what i would do if i would lose her
i hope that nobody else will have to go trough this it is a parents hell
i would give my life to make her better, i know we have to get past this but is sooooo hard
thank you everybody for your support
ShadowVT
Edited at: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:09:06 PM
[mgdman] Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:53:07 PM
Good to here she's doing better! All the best thoughts
from my family to yours.
MGD [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:03:02 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
First of all, yes budred this is normally a role playing thread that i started to have some fun,
but under the sitution for the moment we used this thread to inform everyone about our situation.
I am not affended with your post everyine has a right on there own oppinion, really no problem
necro, deepfreeze headbanger and everyone thx for the best wishes and the support
i have really good news about our little girl
the first fase has been completed of the chemo therapy
the bonemarrow has gone into remission, the cells that develop the leukemia are gone and the percentage of leukemia is going down
so everything looks good for the moment, the second fase of the treatment with chemo has started and this is a more aggresive one
to kill all leukemia in her system, she has lost a lot af hair now and is really swollen up due to the medication
but we know that once the treatment is completed her hair will grow back and the swelling will go down.
she is a very very strong girl and is doing really good
it has been tough on ellie and me and the other kids but were are holding strong toghether and we will get thru this
love you all
Ellie and Koen (shadowvt) Edited at: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:04:32 AM
[CountessErzebethBathory9] Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:13:16 PM
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[sadwingsofdestiny51] Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:30:05 PM
Wishing your little one a full and speedy recovery! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:03:02 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
First of all, yes budred this is normally a role playing thread that i started to have some fun,
but under the sitution for the moment we used this thread to inform everyone about our situation.
I am not affended with your post everyine has a right on there own oppinion, really no problem
necro, deepfreeze headbanger and everyone thx for the best wishes and the support
i have really good news about our little girl
the first fase has been completed of the chemo therapy
the bonemarrow has gone into remission, the cells that develop the leukemia are gone and the percentage of leukemia is going down
so everything looks good for the moment, the second fase of the treatment with chemo has started and this is a more aggresive one
to kill all leukemia in her system, she has lost a lot af hair now and is really swollen up due to the medication
but we know that once the treatment is completed her hair will grow back and the swelling will go down.
she is a very very strong girl and is doing really good
it has been tough on ellie and me and the other kids but were are holding strong toghether and we will get thru this
love you all
Ellie and Koen (shadowvt) Edited at: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:04:32 AM
Edited at: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:33:22 PM
[Becks] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:36:59 PM
Great news! Please keep us posted, hopefully she continues to improve over the coming weeks! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:03:02 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
First of all, yes budred this is normally a role playing thread that i started to have some fun,
but under the sitution for the moment we used this thread to inform everyone about our situation.
I am not affended with your post everyine has a right on there own oppinion, really no problem
necro, deepfreeze headbanger and everyone thx for the best wishes and the support
i have really good news about our little girl
the first fase has been completed of the chemo therapy
the bonemarrow has gone into remission, the cells that develop the leukemia are gone and the percentage of leukemia is going down
so everything looks good for the moment, the second fase of the treatment with chemo has started and this is a more aggresive one
to kill all leukemia in her system, she has lost a lot af hair now and is really swollen up due to the medication
but we know that once the treatment is completed her hair will grow back and the swelling will go down.
she is a very very strong girl and is doing really good
it has been tough on ellie and me and the other kids but were are holding strong toghether and we will get thru this
love you all
Ellie and Koen (shadowvt) Edited at: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:04:32 AM
[guidogodoy] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:55:20 AM
VERY good news on that front! Do keep us posted and, as always, all the best. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:03:02 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
First of all, yes budred this is normally a role playing thread that i started to have some fun,
but under the sitution for the moment we used this thread to inform everyone about our situation.
I am not affended with your post everyine has a right on there own oppinion, really no problem
necro, deepfreeze headbanger and everyone thx for the best wishes and the support
i have really good news about our little girl
the first fase has been completed of the chemo therapy
the bonemarrow has gone into remission, the cells that develop the leukemia are gone and the percentage of leukemia is going down
so everything looks good for the moment, the second fase of the treatment with chemo has started and this is a more aggresive one
to kill all leukemia in her system, she has lost a lot af hair now and is really swollen up due to the medication
but we know that once the treatment is completed her hair will grow back and the swelling will go down.
she is a very very strong girl and is doing really good
it has been tough on ellie and me and the other kids but were are holding strong toghether and we will get thru this
love you all
Ellie and Koen (shadowvt) Edited at: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:04:32 AM
[spapad] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:51:55 AM
Koen, it sounds like she is doing really well. Get her some fun hats, and remember all will return when it's all said and done. She's a strong and lovely child. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:03:02 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
First of all, yes budred this is normally a role playing thread that i started to have some fun,
but under the sitution for the moment we used this thread to inform everyone about our situation.
I am not affended with your post everyine has a right on there own oppinion, really no problem
necro, deepfreeze headbanger and everyone thx for the best wishes and the support
i have really good news about our little girl
the first fase has been completed of the chemo therapy
the bonemarrow has gone into remission, the cells that develop the leukemia are gone and the percentage of leukemia is going down
so everything looks good for the moment, the second fase of the treatment with chemo has started and this is a more aggresive one
to kill all leukemia in her system, she has lost a lot af hair now and is really swollen up due to the medication
but we know that once the treatment is completed her hair will grow back and the swelling will go down.
she is a very very strong girl and is doing really good
it has been tough on ellie and me and the other kids but were are holding strong toghether and we will get thru this
love you all
Ellie and Koen (shadowvt) Edited at: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:04:32 AM
[blackshadow] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:39:34 AM
I'm so sorry to hear about your little girl, Shadow. I'm glad to hear things are getting better for you all. I will keep you in my thoughts, until she is absolutely given the all clear.
[Head banger] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:13:16 AM
glad to hear its going well. stay strong [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:03:02 AM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone,
First of all, yes budred this is normally a role playing thread that i started to have some fun,
but under the sitution for the moment we used this thread to inform everyone about our situation.
I am not affended with your post everyine has a right on there own oppinion, really no problem
necro, deepfreeze headbanger and everyone thx for the best wishes and the support
i have really good news about our little girl
the first fase has been completed of the chemo therapy
the bonemarrow has gone into remission, the cells that develop the leukemia are gone and the percentage of leukemia is going down
so everything looks good for the moment, the second fase of the treatment with chemo has started and this is a more aggresive one
to kill all leukemia in her system, she has lost a lot af hair now and is really swollen up due to the medication
but we know that once the treatment is completed her hair will grow back and the swelling will go down.
she is a very very strong girl and is doing really good
it has been tough on ellie and me and the other kids but were are holding strong toghether and we will get thru this
love you all
Ellie and Koen (shadowvt) Edited at: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:04:32 AM
[ShadowVT] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:03:02 AM
Hi everyone,
First of all, yes budred this is normally a role playing thread that i started to have some fun,
but under the sitution for the moment we used this thread to inform everyone about our situation.
I am not affended with your post everyine has a right on there own oppinion, really no problem
necro, deepfreeze headbanger and everyone thx for the best wishes and the support
i have really good news about our little girl
the first fase has been completed of the chemo therapy
the bonemarrow has gone into remission, the cells that develop the leukemia are gone and the percentage of leukemia is going down
so everything looks good for the moment, the second fase of the treatment with chemo has started and this is a more aggresive one
to kill all leukemia in her system, she has lost a lot af hair now and is really swollen up due to the medication
but we know that once the treatment is completed her hair will grow back and the swelling will go down.
she is a very very strong girl and is doing really good
it has been tough on ellie and me and the other kids but were are holding strong toghether and we will get thru this
love you all
Ellie and Koen (shadowvt) Edited at: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:04:32 AM
[Necroticist] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:28:17 AM
Koen, Ellie - i hope the little angel is doing ok...i've withheld my silly recipe posts...our thoughts are with u...
[Head banger] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:30:25 PM
no we are not. I do not believe, but I do think that if your belief helps you then its good. lots of people draw comfort and therefore strength from belief. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:36:16 PM)
Painkiller87 wrote:
Man are all atheists like this? You remind me of a friend who is atheist and has such a terrible attitude at times when such things come up. I know you are trying to defend yourself but the earlier comments of you saying F God earlier gave people the worst impression of you, as well as your comment about prayer not helping. I am not a die hard Christian, but I am a believer. If you need to talk about such things write a new thread and you will be able to talk such talk and debate about it.
Budred wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times must I say I mean that little girl and her family no disrespect.
People can talk about prayer helping but I can't say it won't?
[Head banger] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:29:36 PM
perhaps if you posted less, and read more in a variety of topics you might get the idea of the behavior that is the group norm. from there you could do the right thing and comply with the norm. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:49:27 PM)
Budred wrote:
Profanity is a result of anger. It's how I react sometimes. You people are not getting my point at all. The first message that
I left on this site was out of ignorance. I know no one here nor did I know anything about the little girl. I'm new to this page
and I see a topic that says role playing but I read about such a serious subject. I felt sad about what I was reading. Then I
read about prayer helping and with me not being a believer in prayer, thought that comment was silly (sorry but i'm allowed
to feel that way). So out of ignorance of the situation I responded to the prayer comment with a much too harsh comment of
my own. The next day after reading it again and having time to think about it I decided to apologize for it. I can't take it back
so that was my only alternative. Since then I have been trying to explain myself to different people here. Instead of resolving
the situation it is only causing more grief. I do not think prayer helps is the only message I was trying to get out. If those
people put more faith in God than they do the doctors they may unwittingly limit what these doctors are able to do by not
listening to or doing what they want them to. It may ultimately harm the child. I want their end result to turn out positive. I truly
hope the best for them. I never meant anything negative towards them. Them reading this back and forth does them no good
either. This will be my last response on this page. If you must criticize me leave a personal message and i'll try to respond if
you are not just being ridiculous. I could care less what the people criticizing me think but I apologize to the parents of that girl
for having to read all this shit because I made a mistake. To the parents "I AM SORRY" (sincerely). David Johnson
[Budred] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:36:54 PM
I'm sorry but I had to come back for one last message. To every one I've offended on here, come to web police discussion.
I'm realizing my mistakes and I want you to respond. Seriously. Negative, positive, it doesn't matter. I deserve it and I am
looking forward to it. I have an open mind and I can take it. You can discuss anything you want. Family guy, the Pope, Judas
Priest stories. It doesn't matter. Get retarded if you want. You see, this way I and any one else and can say anything they want
and no one has to hear it unless they want to. It sounds like a grand idea to me (but then again my other ideas didn't go over to
well diid they?). But who can I hurt? No one!
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:00:05 PM
Hmm..Not sure why you need those particular items but....all my best to you. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:58:14 PM)
Painkiller87 wrote:
In my eyes you are forgiven. Now may we just talk and converse with one another with peace? Just how everyone wants right? Now then, back on track! I need a mint and a hot towel before I head back to work!
Budred wrote:
Profanity is a result of anger. It's how I react sometimes. You people are not getting my point at all. The first message that
I left on this site was out of ignorance. I know no one here nor did I know anything about the little girl. I'm new to this page
and I see a topic that says role playing but I read about such a serious subject. I felt sad about what I was reading. Then I
read about prayer helping and with me not being a believer in prayer, thought that comment was silly (sorry but i'm allowed
to feel that way). So out of ignorance of the situation I responded to the prayer comment with a much too harsh comment of
my own. The next day after reading it again and having time to think about it I decided to apologize for it. I can't take it back
so that was my only alternative. Since then I have been trying to explain myself to different people here. Instead of resolving
the situation it is only causing more grief. I do not think prayer helps is the only message I was trying to get out. If those
people put more faith in God than they do the doctors they may unwittingly limit what these doctors are able to do by not
listening to or doing what they want them to. It may ultimately harm the child. I want their end result to turn out positive. I truly
hope the best for them. I never meant anything negative towards them. Them reading this back and forth does them no good
either. This will be my last response on this page. If you must criticize me leave a personal message and i'll try to respond if
you are not just being ridiculous. I could care less what the people criticizing me think but I apologize to the parents of that girl
for having to read all this shit because I made a mistake. To the parents "I AM SORRY" (sincerely). David Johnson
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:58:14 PM
In my eyes you are forgiven. Now may we just talk and converse with one another with peace? Just how everyone wants right? Now then, back on track! I need a mint and a hot towel before I head back to work! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:49:27 PM)
Budred wrote:
Profanity is a result of anger. It's how I react sometimes. You people are not getting my point at all. The first message that
I left on this site was out of ignorance. I know no one here nor did I know anything about the little girl. I'm new to this page
and I see a topic that says role playing but I read about such a serious subject. I felt sad about what I was reading. Then I
read about prayer helping and with me not being a believer in prayer, thought that comment was silly (sorry but i'm allowed
to feel that way). So out of ignorance of the situation I responded to the prayer comment with a much too harsh comment of
my own. The next day after reading it again and having time to think about it I decided to apologize for it. I can't take it back
so that was my only alternative. Since then I have been trying to explain myself to different people here. Instead of resolving
the situation it is only causing more grief. I do not think prayer helps is the only message I was trying to get out. If those
people put more faith in God than they do the doctors they may unwittingly limit what these doctors are able to do by not
listening to or doing what they want them to. It may ultimately harm the child. I want their end result to turn out positive. I truly
hope the best for them. I never meant anything negative towards them. Them reading this back and forth does them no good
either. This will be my last response on this page. If you must criticize me leave a personal message and i'll try to respond if
you are not just being ridiculous. I could care less what the people criticizing me think but I apologize to the parents of that girl
for having to read all this shit because I made a mistake. To the parents "I AM SORRY" (sincerely). David Johnson
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:57:26 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're killin' me............ [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:56:03 PM)
Painkiller87 wrote:
sorry, just wanted to help everyone.......... But make a thread about crap threads! That will make you feel better! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Deep Freeze wrote:
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! NO !!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! Not ANOTHER Thread........................
Painkiller87 wrote:
Man are all atheists like this? You remind me of a friend who is atheist and has such a terrible attitude at times when such things come up. I know you are trying to defend yourself but the earlier comments of you saying F God earlier gave people the worst impression of you, as well as your comment about prayer not helping. I am not a die hard Christian, but I am a believer. If you need to talk about such things write a new thread and you will be able to talk such talk and debate about it.
Budred wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times must I say I mean that little girl and her family no disrespect.
People can talk about prayer helping but I can't say it won't?
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:56:03 PM
sorry, just wanted to help everyone.......... But make a thread about crap threads! That will make you feel better! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:44:59 PM)
Deep Freeze wrote:
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! NO !!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! Not ANOTHER Thread........................
Painkiller87 wrote:
Man are all atheists like this? You remind me of a friend who is atheist and has such a terrible attitude at times when such things come up. I know you are trying to defend yourself but the earlier comments of you saying F God earlier gave people the worst impression of you, as well as your comment about prayer not helping. I am not a die hard Christian, but I am a believer. If you need to talk about such things write a new thread and you will be able to talk such talk and debate about it.
Budred wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times must I say I mean that little girl and her family no disrespect.
People can talk about prayer helping but I can't say it won't?
[Budred] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:49:27 PM
Profanity is a result of anger. It's how I react sometimes. You people are not getting my point at all. The first message that
I left on this site was out of ignorance. I know no one here nor did I know anything about the little girl. I'm new to this page
and I see a topic that says role playing but I read about such a serious subject. I felt sad about what I was reading. Then I
read about prayer helping and with me not being a believer in prayer, thought that comment was silly (sorry but i'm allowed
to feel that way). So out of ignorance of the situation I responded to the prayer comment with a much too harsh comment of
my own. The next day after reading it again and having time to think about it I decided to apologize for it. I can't take it back
so that was my only alternative. Since then I have been trying to explain myself to different people here. Instead of resolving
the situation it is only causing more grief. I do not think prayer helps is the only message I was trying to get out. If those
people put more faith in God than they do the doctors they may unwittingly limit what these doctors are able to do by not
listening to or doing what they want them to. It may ultimately harm the child. I want their end result to turn out positive. I truly
hope the best for them. I never meant anything negative towards them. Them reading this back and forth does them no good
either. This will be my last response on this page. If you must criticize me leave a personal message and i'll try to respond if
you are not just being ridiculous. I could care less what the people criticizing me think but I apologize to the parents of that girl
for having to read all this shit because I made a mistake. To the parents "I AM SORRY" (sincerely). David Johnson
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:44:59 PM
AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! NO !!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!! Not ANOTHER Thread........................ [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:36:16 PM)
Painkiller87 wrote:
Man are all atheists like this? You remind me of a friend who is atheist and has such a terrible attitude at times when such things come up. I know you are trying to defend yourself but the earlier comments of you saying F God earlier gave people the worst impression of you, as well as your comment about prayer not helping. I am not a die hard Christian, but I am a believer. If you need to talk about such things write a new thread and you will be able to talk such talk and debate about it.
Budred wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times must I say I mean that little girl and her family no disrespect.
People can talk about prayer helping but I can't say it won't?
[Painkiller87] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:36:16 PM
Man are all atheists like this? You remind me of a friend who is atheist and has such a terrible attitude at times when such things come up. I know you are trying to defend yourself but the earlier comments of you saying F God earlier gave people the worst impression of you, as well as your comment about prayer not helping. I am not a die hard Christian, but I am a believer. If you need to talk about such things write a new thread and you will be able to talk such talk and debate about it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:22:59 AM)
Budred wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times must I say I mean that little girl and her family no disrespect.
People can talk about prayer helping but I can't say it won't?
[Becks] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:29:20 PM
Time and place dude, not appropriate at all [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:22:59 AM)
Budred wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times must I say I mean that little girl and her family no disrespect.
People can talk about prayer helping but I can't say it won't?
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:56:56 PM
Profanity laced tirades and idiotic new Threads aside, I think that you are "educated" enough to understand impropriatey. There is no reason to feel ostracized or censored. You are absolutely correct; you are entitled to say whatever you want. Perhaps you should remember that what you say, and when you say it, will tell us all a lot about you.
[Phantom A6] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:12:20 PM
This is not the fact!!
1st: You are a newbie here that why you don't understand the sense
of this thread!! This thread is not there just for role playing!!
First line it's just a place to communicate with friends n members of the family!!
2nd: You can create a special thread n start a discussion about it!!
That's ok, but you don't have the right to act like you did!!
Koen n Ellieke are living in hard times for their family at the moment n the both need no jerking about prayers n faith!! Are you a father?? I don't think so 'Cause your acting shows us all your not!! So better let it be!! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:22:59 AM)
Budred wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times must I say I mean that little girl and her family no disrespect.
People can talk about prayer helping but I can't say it won't?
[Budred] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:22:59 AM
What the fuck are you talking about? How many times must I say I mean that little girl and her family no disrespect.
People can talk about prayer helping but I can't say it won't?
[Deep Freeze] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:43:36 AM
Well man, you seem to have a knack for getting yourself into "tight spots", don't you? I do not want every interaction you and I have to be one of contention but I should think you are smarter than you latest actions. I hope so, anyway.
Ellie and Koen and LONGTIME, respected members of this Board and are facing a real life crisis. While I certainly understand your position on supernatural beings (and I share your disbelief) I think this Thread, at THIS time, is simply ill-advised. People here just do not know you well enough yet and this particular moment is rather delicate.
The belief people carry is s source of comfort in times of great distress. Whether it is "god", "the sun" or "Apollo" is really not the point. We can debate the existence of invisible beings in the sky, if you wish, but this is not the time or Thread. Personally, I think you know that. In any event, this makes two. I really want to make friends with you and make you feel welcome here. I do. You are not making that easy, are you?
[Budred] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:28:32 AM
As harsh as that comment was I meant no malice towards that little girl. I truly have compassion for people, I honestly wish her the best.
I stated in that comment that I was feeling bad reading about her. That comment was meant to relay my belief that prayer will do no good.
If she survives it will be because of her and her doctors and if she dies, as tragic as it will be, it will have nothing to do with god. I believe
God is nothing more than a figment of the imagination and I could care less if people agree or not. We are all entitled to our beliefs and I
stand by mine. My only regret is that people may think I don't care about that little girl. I do. I do not have to believe in GOD to have compassion.
I think GOD is for those too weak to believe in themselves.
[joedraper] Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:19:48 AM
Well my friend, for some of us who do pray, and believe in prayer, we've seen it working. Each to their own, that comment (that I do not care to repeat) is not only harsh but outright disrespectful. There is a very sick little girl out there and her and her family (both well liked and respected members here) need all the help they can get. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:53:39 PM)
Budred wrote:
I'm confused. Is that role playing or is that for real. I'm feeling so bad but should I.
P.S. Show me proof praying ever helped anything. Fuck GOD! }: o
[Budred] Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:05:10 AM
I just want apologize for the "Fuck God" comment. Even though I'm a non-believer, it was a little harsh for those that do. I wish the best for the little girl! No that's not me role playing. I do have compassion. Peace!
[joedraper] Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:16:15 AM
I was just wondering how Koen & Ellie's little girl is. I hope she is still doing well with her treatment and that the whole family is coping. If you guys happen to be around and reading this, I am thinking of you and praying for you all. Please give the little princess a big hug and kiss from me ok?
[Vaillant 3.0] Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:59:10 PM
It's supposed to be a role-playing game, but the last few posts you're seeing right now are for real. A little "Good Luck" doesn't hurt. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by Budred from Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:53:39 PM)
Budred wrote:
I'm confused. Is that role playing or is that for real. I'm feeling so bad but should I.
P.S. Show me proof praying ever helped anything. Fuck GOD! }: o
[Budred] Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:53:39 PM
I'm confused. Is that role playing or is that for real. I'm feeling so bad but should I.
P.S. Show me proof praying ever helped anything. Fuck GOD! }: o
[spapad] Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:51:56 PM
So good to hear she is taking it like a trooper Koen. She's one brave little girl and she's going to make it! She has the determination and hope of a child with the world ahead of her. She will be fine when all is done. We all of course shall continue to keep her in our thoughts and prayers as there is nothing greater than the many people praying for her and hoping for her. It's been proven to work.
Much love to you and Ellike and your whole family. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:27:19 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone
first of all i want to thank everybody for the kind and supporting words
it really gave us a warm heart and strenght
and i want to wish everybody the best wishes and most of all a good health
The update on our little princess:
yesterday she went to hospital to get another chemo cure treatment
normaly they would only have to insert once a needle to get infuus in the arm
so that they then can connect the baxter for the chemo cure
but because of all the medicens en priks she already received
came her vains so fragile that they had to try 5 times to get a good vain
to get the infuus inthere
on the fith time they succeeded en she could get another cure
the good news is that she still didn't get sick from the chemo
and she is still eating like the best of us
i think she can almost eat a cow a day LOL
here is a song that a listen a lot for our princess
LOVE AND Hugs ShadowVT & Ellie and kids
[Becks] Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:47:42 PM
Great news Shadow, long may it continue for you girls recovery! All the best to you, Ellie, and your family! [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by ShadowVT from Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:27:19 PM)
ShadowVT wrote:
Hi everyone
first of all i want to thank everybody for the kind and supporting words
it really gave us a warm heart and strenght
and i want to wish everybody the best wishes and most of all a good health
The update on our little princess:
yesterday she went to hospital to get another chemo cure treatment
normaly they would only have to insert once a needle to get infuus in the arm
so that they then can connect the baxter for the chemo cure
but because of all the medicens en priks she already received
came her vains so fragile that they had to try 5 times to get a good vain
to get the infuus inthere
on the fith time they succeeded en she could get another cure
the good news is that she still didn't get sick from the chemo
and she is still eating like the best of us
i think she can almost eat a cow a day LOL
here is a song that a listen a lot for our princess
LOVE AND Hugs ShadowVT & Ellie and kids
[ShadowVT] Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:27:19 PM
Hi everyone
first of all i want to thank everybody for the kind and supporting words
it really gave us a warm heart and strenght
and i want to wish everybody the best wishes and most of all a good health
The update on our little princess:
yesterday she went to hospital to get another chemo cure treatment
normaly they would only have to insert once a needle to get infuus in the arm
so that they then can connect the baxter for the chemo cure
but because of all the medicens en priks she already received
came her vains so fragile that they had to try 5 times to get a good vain
to get the infuus inthere
on the fith time they succeeded en she could get another cure
the good news is that she still didn't get sick from the chemo
and she is still eating like the best of us
i think she can almost eat a cow a day LOL
here is a song that a listen a lot for our princess
LOVE AND Hugs ShadowVT & Ellie and kids
[Ellieke] Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:36:58 AM
Hi everyone ,
Little update about the situation.
She's got her seconde doses of chemo and she's doing great. Doctors are very optimistic.
We keep the faith and we stay positive thanks to all the support we get !
All the best to you, Ellie, and your family!