[Maple Syrup] Monday, January 31, 2011 7:05:37 PM | |
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[Maple Syrup] Monday, January 31, 2011 6:53:13 PM | |
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Funny how this guy who has the JP: CD-R's and DVD-R's for sale, calls every other item he lists as "rare". Thats a hoot. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Priestfan2010 from Monday, January 31, 2011 5:55:37 PM)
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Here's the link to the site where you can buy just about anything...CDs, DVDs, records, shirts, autographs, posters, you name it. It's also where I found the Stockholm bootleg.
http://www.ioffer.com/si/judas+priestEdited at: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:57:05 PM Edited at: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:57:45 PM |
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[guidogodoy] Monday, January 31, 2011 6:45:18 PM | |
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Sorry but I have to say that I have absolutely NO respect for tools who sell bootlegs. They download the recordings, mastering and artwork of others and sell for profit against the explicit wishes of the author. Stockholm was free online about a month after the show in 05. A second remaster came out with better EQ within the year.
Traders trade. Most give freely. Only assholes sell. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Priestfan2010 from Monday, January 31, 2011 5:55:37 PM)
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Priestfan2010 wrote: |
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Here's the link to the site where you can buy just about anything...CDs, DVDs, records, shirts, autographs, posters, you name it. It's also where I found the Stockholm bootleg.
http://www.ioffer.com/si/judas+priestEdited at: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:57:05 PM Edited at: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:57:45 PM |
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[Priestfan2010] Monday, January 31, 2011 5:55:37 PM | |
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Here's the link to the site where you can buy just about anything...CDs, DVDs, records, shirts, autographs, posters, you name it. It's also where I found the Stockholm bootleg.
http://www.ioffer.com/si/judas+priestEdited at: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:57:05 PM Edited at: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:57:45 PM |
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[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 30, 2011 4:12:07 PM | |
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Oh, and one more thing. If you want a better-quality full-length bootleg for Japan '78 to supplement the shortness of Genocide, I suggest the Nagoya 1978 one. It's a very good audience recording for that era, almost sounds like the soundboard ones found on Genocide. Certainly much better than Red Hot Tokyo. |
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[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:18:59 PM | |
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Priestfan, could you give a working link for that Sweden show? The only ones I found were dead...
I can now proudly say that I have the only bootleg available from the Sin After Sin Tour, The Palladium July 16 1977 show. The quality is quite bad, so it's there more because of the historical value. I also got a Turbo era bootleg, from 17th October 1986 in Essen, Germany. It's very good for an audience recording, I strongly suggest this one until better ones can be found.
I also created a package that contains all of the 11 songs from Obey Their Law in high quality. Basically I took the 10 HQ songs already available, and then fiddled around with the EQ and volume levels of the lower-quality Green Manalishi so it now fits with the rest of the tracks better. There's a minor crack at the start of it, but the rest should be perfect.
Here's the links:
Palladium '77
San Antonio '82 HQ
Essen '86
For some reason there's no tracklisting included with the Essen bootleg, and the file names don't tell you anything either. Here's the list I made by listening to the songs:
CD 1
1. Out in the Cold
2. Locked In
3. Heading Out to the Highway
4. Metal Gods
5. Breaking the Law
6. Love Bites
7. Some Heads Are Gonna Roll
8. The Sentinel
9. Private Property
10. Rock You All Around the World
CD 2
1. The Hellion/Electric Eye
2. Turbo Lover
3. Parental Guidance
4. Freewheel Burning
5. Victim of Changes (!)
6. The Green Manalishi
7. Living After Midnight
8. You've Got Another Thing Comin'
9. Hell Bent for Leather
As you can see it's pretty much the basic '86 tour stuff you can get from Priest...Live! and some remasters. The only one to really stand out is Victim of Changes, the first time I've heard it's '86 version. A must-have for any collector. Edited at: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:21:53 PM |
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[Priestfan2010] Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:29:22 AM | |
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Nupe: I found something from the Turbo Era. It's from Stockholm in 1986. There's also a bootleg DVD from this tour that I can post if you're interested. But anyways, here's the audio version.
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[Nupe The Ripper] Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:20:08 AM | |
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Part 2 of my bootleg suggestions:
Screaming for Vengeance era
Obey Their Law (thanks Maple Syrup for pointing this out)
Recorded at the Hemisfair Arena Convention Center, San Antonio, USA on 10.09.1982 (tracks 1-11) (mislabeled as 28th, Rob clearly states that they're in San Antonio and it was on the 10th when they played there) and Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis, USA on 12.12.1982 (tracks 12 and 13)
1. The Hellion/Electric Eye
2. Riding on the Wind
3. Metal Gods
4. Bloodstone
5. Breaking the Law
6. Heading Out to the Highway
7. You've Got Another Thing Comin'
8. Screaming for Vengeance
9. Living After Midnight
10. The Green Manalishi
11. Hell Bent for Leather
12. Diamonds and Rust
13. The Green Manalishi
Pros: Very good to excellent sound quality. An alternative to the Live Vengeance '82 DVD, if you don't want to rip the tracks from it.
Cons: Tracks 12 and 13 can be found as better versions on the Live Vengeance '82 DVD. The Hellion/Electric Eye can be found on Metalogy Disc 2. Also, this has only 11 tracks compared to the 14 usually played during this era. The sound tends to be a bit hollow at some points.
Available formats: 192 and 320 kbps MP3. Can be found as mislabeled as a 1983 recording, with The Green Manalishi and the Memphis tracks missing, but with superior quality.
Defenders of the Faith era
Long Beach 1984/Live Long Beach, California 5.5.1984/ABC Defenders/Defenders of Long Beach/California Burning (compilation with other tracks as well)
Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, 05.05.1984 in association with ABC Rock Network. As can be seen from above, it's being shared under multiple titles, but all are from the same concert.
1. Interview with Rob Halford
2. Love Bites
3. Jawbreaker
4. Grinder
5. Metal Gods
6. Breaking the Law
7. Sinner
8. Desert Plains
9. Some Heads Are Gonna Roll
10. The Sentinel
11. Rock Hard Ride Free
12. Night Comes Down
13. The Hellion/Electric Eye
14. Heavy Duty/Defenders of the Faith
15. Freewheel Burning
16. Victim of Changes
There's many versions of this track listing available, some omitting the interview, while at least one version (Califonia Burning) is missing the tracks 11 and 12.
Pros: One of the longest bootlegs with 15 different tracks. Almost perfect sound quality if you manage to find a good version.
Cons: Varying sound quality between different versions, some are taken from the FM broadcast and have errors, while some seem to be straight from the soundboard/FM master tape. I'll recommend either the California Burning, or if you want the whole concert, here's a good one as well: http://mp3asi.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18989, however this one doesn't have the interview in it. Tracks 3, 4, 11, 12 and 14 can be found on the Remasters as well.
Available formats: 160 and 256 kbps MP3
Ram It Down era
Electric Eye: Live in New Haven 1988
Recorded at the New Haven Coliseum, New Haven, USA on 07.08.1988
1. The Hellion/Electric Eye
2. Metal Gods
3. Sinner
4. Breaking the Law
5. Come and Get It
6. I'm a Rocker
7. Some Heads Are Gonna Roll
8. Turbo Lover
9. Ram It Down
10. Heavy Metal
11. Living After Midnight
12. Hell Bent for Leather
13. Victim of Changes
14. The Green Manalishi
Pros: Excellent sound quality with no cracks or distortion. Rare live tracks from the Ram It Down album. Last tour with Dave Holland, I think that deserves a mention.
Cons: The sound volume is a bit silent, so you'll have to crank it up to hear the tracks properly. The sound might be a bit hollow at some points. If you don't like Ram It Down then this is not your record.
Available formats: 320 kbps MP3, lossless FLAC
Painkiller era
The Complete Painkiller Tour
Recorded at the Foundations Forum, Los Angeles, USA on 13.09.1990 (disc 1) and Stadthalle, Offenbach, Germany on 18.02.1991 (disc 2)
Disc 1
1. Riding on the Wind
2. Grinder
3. Heading Out to the Highway
4. Metal Gods
5. Sinner
6. Between the Hammer and the Anvil
7. Bloodstone
8. Better by You, Better Than Me
9. Ram It Down
10. Heavy Metal
11. Victim of Changes
12. The Green Manalishi
13. Leather Rebel
14. Hell Bent for Leather
15. You've Got Another Thing Coming
16. Living After Midnight
Disc 2
1. Hell Bent for Leather
2. Grinder
3. The Hellion/Electric Eye
4. All Guns Blazing
5. The Sentinel
6. Metal Gods
7. Night Crawler
8. The Ripper
9. Beyond the Realms of Death
10. Riding on the Wind
11. Victim of Changes
12. Painkiller
13. The Green Manalishi
14. Breaking the Law
15. Living After Midnight
16. You've Got Another Thing Comin'
Pros: A good compilation of pretty much all the songs Priest played on the Painkiller Tour. Disc 1 is of very good quality, with some distortion at the loudest parts (probably this was recorded with a bit too much volume).
Cons: Disc 1 contains only two tracks from Painkiller, while Disc 2 is an audience recording and suffers from it greatly - if you don't want these German tracks, simply don't download the Part 3 of this package (Part 2 has Living After Midnight from the first disc, the rest being the first half of the German show). Better by You, Better Than Me and Leather Rebel can be found on the Remasters. Disc 1's Metal Gods, Sinner, Ram It Down, Heavy Metal and Victim of Changes are actually from the New Haven '88 bootleg, bringing the total amount of actual 1990 songs to 11. There's quite a bit of distortion at the loudest parts of the tracks.
Available formats: 192 kbps MP3
All of the boots I've mentioned in these two posts can be found at the addressess I mentioned at the bottom of my first review post (except for Red Hot Tokyo and the full, good-quality version of Long Beach '84, for which I gave you the link).
I'm not much interested in bootlegs of the Ripper Years or the second Halford era, so I'm not going to review any of them. There's more than enough official live material from them.
As you can see I haven't found any bootlegs at all for the Sin After Sin or Turbo eras. I know that the Kiel Auditorium show from '86 is recorded and found as bootleg, and there's also some tracks from a '77 New York show, but I haven't found them yet. Any help in finding them would be much appreciated. Edited at: Sunday, January 30, 2011 8:21:25 AM |
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[Maple Syrup] Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:10:03 PM | |
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Last one for the nite. Seatlle 1980. British Steel. Sound is good to vg. I def like this thread. Have a gr8 evening everyone.MpleSyrp \m/
Edited at: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:10:51 PM Edited at: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:12:11 PM |
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[spapad] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:46:44 PM | |
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[Priestfan2010] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:41:01 PM | |
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Maple Syrup: Yes, I have tried the site, it's very good. Thanks.
Nupe: Good reviews. I'll keep your latest post in mind when thinking about which boots to download. |
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[Nupe The Ripper] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:34:31 PM | |
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Here's a quite comprehensive list of what bootlegs I've found the most appealing, ordered by the year they're from. Split in two posts, the other part will follow up eventually.
Rocka Rolla/Sad Wings of Destiny era:
The Ripper
Recorded at the Reading Festival, UK on 22.08.1975 (tracks 1-7) and Slough College, London, UK on 11.10.1975 (tracks 8-11)
1. Victim of Changes
2. Dreamer Deceiver
3. Deceiver
4. The Ripper
5. Mother Sun (dubbed "Father Mother Son" on the back cover)
6. Island of Domination
7. Rocka Rolla (mislabeled as Genocide because the intro is from it)
8. Victim of Changes
9. Dreamer Deceiver
10. Deceiver
11. The Ripper
Pros: Only full version of Mother Sun available (the Slough College one that's also in circulation is cut short at the end). Longer versions of The Ripper and Rocka Rolla. Long guitar solos by KK (Island of Domination) and Glenn (Rocka Rolla). A good compilation of the earliest known recorded Priest performances.
Cons: Quite poor sound quality, although you can't expect much from a 1975 audience recording, and for most of the time you can still hear the music pretty well. The Slough College recordings have improved quality, the audience being less prominent.
Available formats: 192 kbps MP3
Stained Class era:
Genocide
Recorded at the Koseinenkin Hall, Tokyo, Japan on 31.07.1978 (tracks 1-5) and Agora Ballroom, Cleveland, USA (tracks 6-8) on 07.05.1978
1. White Heat, Red Hot
2. Victim of Changes
3. Beyond the Realms of Death
4. Genocide
5. Tyrant
6. White Heat, Red Hot
7. Starbreaker
8. Beyond the Realms of Death
Pros: Excellent sound quality, there's very little distortion. The bass is a little more pronounced than on most other records, but it's only makes the tracks sound better. You just can't get a better non-pro record from this era. Genocide has some extra guitar work in it, extending the length to almost 14 minutes!
Cons: Quite short, with only five new tracks (you can hear at the start of the Koseinenkin version of White Heat that they had played at least Exciter before that, but the other tracks don't seem to have gotten on a record). The Cleveland tracks have already been officially released (and sound better) on Priest, Live & Rare (and the singles of which the tracks were taken from), so they're of little value if you already have that compilation.
Available formats: 128 and 320 kbps MP3
The missing tracks can be supplemented with this:
Red Hot Tokyo
Possibly a TV recording, so don't expect good quality. It doesn't even contain any tracks that have never been heard live before, other than the short intro that was played at the start of each show. Get this if you want the whole concert, but be warned that the quality isn't very good. Available as both 128 and 320kbps MP3.
Hell Bent for Leather era:
New York 1979
Alternative cover:
The Palladium 1979
Recorded at the Palladium Theater, New York, USA on 04.11.1979
1. Hell Bent for Leather
2. Delivering the Goods
3. Running Wild
4. The Ripper
5. Beyond the Realms of Death
6. Diamonds and Rust
7. White Heat, Red Hot
8. Sinner
9. Green Manalishi
10. Victim of Changes
11. Genocide
12. Starbreaker
13. Take on the World
14. Tyrant
Pros: Excellent sound quality, with only minor cracks and drops in volume. Live version of Take on the World, at the start of the song Rob claims that 1980 will be the year of heavy metal. How correctly can someone predict things! A great alternative for Unleashed In the East, being 100% live.
Cons: Well, most of the tracks are already available on Unleashed. Rob's vocals also tend to be drowned out at some points.
Available formats: 128 (the first one) and 320 kbps MP3, lossless FLAC (both the latter one).
British Steel era
British Steeler
Recorded at the Calderone Hall, New York, USA on 07.07.1980, incorrectly labeled as July 5th on the back cover, or then this is from the Nassau Coliseum show instead
1. Hell Bent for Leather
2. The Ripper
3. Running Wild
4. Living After Midnight
5. Sinner
6. Beyond the Realms of Death
7. You Don't Have to Be Old to Be Wise
8. The Grinder
9. Victim of Changes
10. Steeler
11. Genocide
12. Tyrant
13. The Green Manalishi
Pros: Sound quality varies from very good to excellent, especially on the FLAC version. The best British Steel-era bootleg freely available (the Denver record has had it's bass guitar boosted too much in my opinion). Contains You Don't Have to Be Old to Be Wise and Steeler, tracks not so often played live.
Cons: The drums tend to drown out occasionally. Also, there's some distortion in the first few songs.
Available formats: 320 kbps MP3, lossless FLAC
Point of Entry era
Breaking the Law
Recorded at the Universal Amphitheater, Chicago, USA on 21.06.1981
1. Solar Angels
2. Heading Out to the Highway
3. Diamonds and Rust
4. Troubleshooter
5. Breaking the Law
6. Sinner
7. Beyond the Realms of Death
8. Grinder
9. Hot Rockin'
10. You Don't Have to Be Old to Be Wise
11. Victim of Changes
12. The Green Manalishi
13. Hell Bent for Leather
14. Living After Midnight
Pros: Excellent sound quality, only the occasional little distortion and slight hollowness of the drum sound. You can even hear Glenn clearly shouting at the crowd at some points, and in general his part in the backing vocals is more audible than usual. Rare cuts of Solar Angels and Troubleshooter.
Cons: The same version of Hot Rockin' is part of Priest, Live & Rare and the single where it was taken from, but it has been slightly edited for them (most notably Rob's speeches at the start and end). Other than that, I can't make up any other faults, the sound quality is so great and there's not too much PoE on it.
Available formats: 320 kbps MP3, lossless FLAC
Good bootleg sources:
http://vivalesbootlegs.blogspot.com/search/label/JUDAS%20PRIEST (I've got the most of my bootlegs from here)
http://rockpopbootlegs.blogspot.com/search/label/Judas%20Priest (bootlegs you can't find from the above site, I've got a couple from here)
http://soundaboard.blogspot.com/search/label/Judas%20Priest (some new bootlegs, but mostly high-quality versions of the boots found on the first site)
End of part 1 Edited at: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:40:43 PM Edited at: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:43:39 PM |
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[guidogodoy] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:33:39 PM | |
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Yup. I remember it well and got some boots there myself back in the day. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:41:52 PM) | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | This is a good sounding boot. Amazing Priest was still playing White Heat Red Hot up until early 1980..wow. BTW does anybody remember the EXCITER PAGE? That guy (Armin) had the best JP boots period and I was so glad to get some of them, back in the day. MpleSyrp
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[Maple Syrup] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:28:50 PM | |
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PRIESTFAN: Try the viva les bootlegs and find JP concerts 78 - 09. Enjoya. MpleSyrp
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[Priestfan2010] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:18:32 PM | |
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I don't know how all of you feel about tributes, but this one is exceptionally good. A lot of good bands play on this, including Ripper Owens himself. Of all the Judas Priest tributes out there, this one is one of the best. I know a great tribute site, if anyone's interested.
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[Maple Syrup] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:07:54 PM | |
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[spapad] Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:02:17 PM | |
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Maple, the link name does not work. Must not be spelled out just right. If you would fix it for us, I would for one but gratefull. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:31:50 PM) | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | Priestfan: You have traders and people who will sell the CD-R's to you. Vinyl is always tough to find, but you never know you may get lucky. Finally, there are a many torrents or music sites to visit.. One I can recommend is vivalesbootlegs.com
Thanks Spa. MpleSyrp
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[spapad] Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:58:32 PM | |
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Can I find a copy of that CD on the site you mentioned? Maybe? Would love to have it. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Maple Syrup from Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:31:50 PM) | | Maple Syrup wrote: | | Priestfan: You have traders and people who will sell the CD-R's to you. Vinyl is always tough to find, but you never know you may get lucky. Finally, there are a many torrents or music sites to visit.. One I can recommend is vivalesbootlegs.com
Thanks Spa. MpleSyrp
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[Maple Syrup] Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:31:50 PM | |
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Priestfan: You have traders and people who will sell the CD-R's to you. Vinyl is always tough to find, but you never know you may get lucky. Finally, there are a many torrents or music sites to visit.. One I can recommend is vivalesbootlegs.com
Thanks Spa. MpleSyrp
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[Priestfan2010] Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:41:06 PM | |
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Does anyone know a person/store/site that sells rare bootlegs like this on Vinyl? I would be very interested. |
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