| [Head banger] Friday, April 22, 2011 5:36:36 PM | |
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sure it beats nost, but its not hard to do that. its a good album, lyrics could be better.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, April 22, 2011 8:38:05 AM)| |  | Budred wrote: | | Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable. I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me.
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| [seventongueXXX] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:56:33 PM | |
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Downing: "There has been an ongoing breakdown in working relationship between myself, elements of the band, and the band's management for some time."
Why is he so cryptic? "Elements of the band". What exactly does that mean? Come out and tell everyone exactly why you refuse to go on and give Judas Priest a proud ending! There can't be a Farewell tour without KK Downing - NO guitarist is going to feel comfortable trying to hit Downing's licks/solos and it's not going to sound like Judas Priest.
And HALFORD knew all about this before Christmas!!! So he's been lying! Before and after Christmas he's been talking about this huge Farewell Tour and album and he knew all along that Downing had trouble with it all!
http://www.marshallofrock.com/rob-halford-talks-k-k-downings-departure-k-k-releases-reasons-for-leaving-judas-priest/
And Management is to fault, as well for not fixing this.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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| [Brian_Evans] Friday, April 22, 2011 2:19:13 PM | |
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EXACTLY.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by JayDee Jepsen from Friday, April 22, 2011 1:43:32 PM)| | | JayDee Jepsen wrote: | | Stop the pessimism!
When Priest lost Dave Holland they got Scott Travis and wrote one of their best album in years. When Rob left, JP got Ripper and did pretty well then....Rob returned. Countless of other big bands have changed prominat players only to put out new and better material so give Priest and this Faulkner guy a chance; who knows, KK might rejoin at a later time but if not, KK gave us 40 years of his all and we should wish him well and look forward to new, young guitar blood in the priest machine.
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| [Alli] Friday, April 22, 2011 2:05:35 PM | |
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| I for one I'm totally gobsmacked that KK has left the band. I'm still going to see em on tour but it won;t feel the same without KK. I've seen Priest live every tour with Bobby since 1981. I didn;t go until Bobby came back I couldn t imagine somebody else singing for Priest. No disrespect to this new guy but the same with him I'm dreading him standing in KK s place on stage. I hope KK comes back but I;ve got a feeling now he;s made his mind up that will be it. It won;t be the same without him I m just totally shocked. |
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| [JayDee Jepsen] Friday, April 22, 2011 1:43:32 PM | |
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Stop the pessimism!
When Priest lost Dave Holland they got Scott Travis and wrote one of their best album in years. When Rob left, JP got Ripper and did pretty well then....Rob returned. Countless of other big bands have changed prominat players only to put out new and better material so give Priest and this Faulkner guy a chance; who knows, KK might rejoin at a later time but if not, KK gave us 40 years of his all and we should wish him well and look forward to new, young guitar blood in the priest machine.
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| [Brian_Evans] Friday, April 22, 2011 1:04:56 PM | |
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Jeez there's a lot of negative people in here. Just because one member of the band quits doesn't mean they have to call it a day. It's not the end of the world or anything ..lol. I hope the band moves forward and continues on which I think they will.
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| [Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 12:49:03 PM | |
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I can't agree entirely on your post but after the tour and album maybe they should call it a day.
My very first post on this subject pretty much said that. Knowing that they have been a part of my life
for over 30 years it hurts me to say it but in my heart that's what I believe. As much as I hate getting
older I am so thankful that I got to experience them in their prime as many times as I have. I read
about the younger people on here who love Priest and can only feel bad that they didn't get to
experience Priest back in the day. Man they were so freakin' awesome. My brother is a diehard Metallica
fan and always thought they were better than Priest. I bought him a ticket to Operation Rock and Roll.
Afterwards he was like "Dude, That was baddest concert I ever went to. These guys are the best live
band out there". I just smiled, I already knew that.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Friday, April 22, 2011 12:13:11 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think Rob and Glenn should quit touring all together,cancel the Epitaph tour and just record one studio album without K.K. and put everything they can possibly muster into this record untill they are blue in the face and then when they have the metal masterpiece,just hang it up and call it a day.
Let the Masters Of Metal step down for good and lay the band to rest. I can't possibly see the band live without K.K. I haven't seen Priest live since the 1988 Ram It Down tour and unfortunately I never will see them again,ever. I should of went to the Retribution tour but missed it,but then again who cares.
I just want one more last album thats awsome even without K.K. and then put JP to rest and bury them respectfully. Saxon will fullfill my metal needs from here on out,and I have other extreme metal bands to fill my heavy cravings.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 12:13:11 PM | |
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I think Rob and Glenn should quit touring all together,cancel the Epitaph tour and just record one studio album without K.K. and put everything they can possibly muster into this record untill they are blue in the face and then when they have the metal masterpiece,just hang it up and call it a day.
Let the Masters Of Metal step down for good and lay the band to rest. I can't possibly see the band live without K.K. I haven't seen Priest live since the 1988 Ram It Down tour and unfortunately I never will see them again,ever. I should of went to the Retribution tour but missed it,but then again who cares.
I just want one more last album thats awsome even without K.K. and then put JP to rest and bury them respectfully. Saxon will fullfill my metal needs from here on out,and I have other extreme metal bands to fill my heavy cravings.
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:39:48 AM | |
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I agree icecreamman, Demolition was definitely plagued by bad lyrics. I also didn't like the way that Ripper sang the songs. They definitely missed Rob's song writing ability and it showed. The music was great and I like Rippers voice, I just don't feel like the lyrics were very good and the way he sang them could have been dramatically improved. I certainly hope they bring Tom back and make it their heaviest album yet!!!
Bud, I've always been grateful to Ripper for keeping the band alive. It just wasn't Priest without Rob though. Ripper had talent for sure and filled in well for Rob singing the old songs. I just think he lacked in song writing ability.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Friday, April 22, 2011 10:05:45 AM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | Look man I love Nostradamus, but I am not going to say Demolition is bad either. Both are really great. If only Demolition wasn't plagued by bad lyrics. Nostradamus was great, but I don't want another album like it. I think it caught everyone off guard after AOR. I believe AOR would have been a masterpiece if it wasn't for Roy Z's bad production. It sounds like a Halford album at times.As for the next album, I say let Tom Allom produce it, and make it heavy as hell.
(I belive Jugulator is great too )
| | | Budred wrote: | | Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me.
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| [Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 11:04:06 AM | |
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I was reading Leather Devil's post and feeling angry already and was trying to vent. (The old me)
I believe I've changed but I started to notice a backslide in my last couple of posts. I don't think I
posted anything out of line, I was just noticing (inside) that I was getting those feelings again. Yes
I have anger issues but I think I'm starting to have the ability to control them somewhat.
Whether he likes me mentioning him by name or not Jimmy had alot to do with this.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by icecreamman from Friday, April 22, 2011 10:05:45 AM)| | | icecreamman wrote: | | Look man I love Nostradamus, but I am not going to say Demolition is bad either. Both are really great. If only Demolition wasn't plagued by bad lyrics. Nostradamus was great, but I don't want another album like it. I think it caught everyone off guard after AOR. I believe AOR would have been a masterpiece if it wasn't for Roy Z's bad production. It sounds like a Halford album at times.As for the next album, I say let Tom Allom produce it, and make it heavy as hell.
(I belive Jugulator is great too )
| | | Budred wrote: | | Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me.
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| [icecreamman] Friday, April 22, 2011 10:05:45 AM | |
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Look man I love Nostradamus, but I am not going to say Demolition is bad either. Both are really great. If only Demolition wasn't plagued by bad lyrics. Nostradamus was great, but I don't want another album like it. I think it caught everyone off guard after AOR. I believe AOR would have been a masterpiece if it wasn't for Roy Z's bad production. It sounds like a Halford album at times.As for the next album, I say let Tom Allom produce it, and make it heavy as hell.
(I belive Jugulator is great too )
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, April 22, 2011 8:38:05 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me.
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| [Nupe The Ripper] Friday, April 22, 2011 9:23:38 AM | |
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Props to KK for making an announcement. Although I'm still shocked about this, at least we now (roughly) know the reason and know that KK is OK with his health.
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| [Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 9:15:13 AM | |
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I think I need to chill.
My posts are tempered but all this K.K. news seems to be bringing the angry me back.
All I want to do is rip people right now. I gotta get this in check.  |
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| [Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 8:38:05 AM | |
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Demolition destroys Nostradamus.
I'm listening to "One on One" as I'm writing this. People always talk about wanting
"Metal". This album is "Metal"
If K.K. had the keys for Nostradamus and Glenn had them for Demolition then let Glenn
do the driving. At least this album is heavy. Do people hate Ripper so bad that they fail
to hear how heavy this album is? To me it's laughable.I like Ripper and I'm glad he
kept Priest going. He's no Rob and I'll never say he is but I don't think they could have
found "anyone" to "fill in" as well as he did. We should be grateful for him.
Rip away, it won't bother me.
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| [Leather Devil] Friday, April 22, 2011 8:25:24 AM | |
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Talking about sound, don't hope too much, if you don't want to be disappointed. Last time Glenn had the keys, remember what he did with. Yes remind you Demolition. If Nostradamus can easily be criticized, what could we say about this one ?
Second thing, till Judas Priest don't provides the means for an album, they won't do a good one anymore. AOR an Nostradamus ain't that bad, but ain't that good either. In my opinion, This stuff is just suffering of a lack of "soul". why ? because it's home studio made, a piece done in England, another in phoenix, but anything together. They would have need to share some time to work together, in a real studio, with some real technicians, engineers and producer. with more amps and microphones and less pro tools. Do you think it will change ? Well, i don't.
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| [Leather Devil] Friday, April 22, 2011 8:07:47 AM | |
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Jimmy James, i could not say it that well, thanks. totally agree.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:23:39 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think it is. The fact is the tour is due to begin very soon and the album is not due till 2012. They should get on with the tour with KK on board and he can step down afterwards before the next album is released, then they can tour that album with the new line up. If that's what they want to do. After nearly 40 years, doing a farewell world tour without your lead guitarist / principal songwriter / guy who started the band is inexcusable. Both parties should realise that what's important on a farewell tour is the audience. Surely they are old enough to deal with each other on a purely professional level. Everyone else has to work with people they don't like or agree with. It's not like they can't afford to get seperate hotel rooms.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | | This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 7:50:33 AM | |
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The "sound" of the next Priest album MUST sound like "Priest" this is very critical. I think now that they have lost K.K. they MUST harken backk to the Painkiller album reguardless id Halford can hit the high notes or not,just his normal voice and the music on Painkiller would be good enough if the song quality is excellent and the songs themselves are excllent.....
Yah the sound itself must sound like Priest,there is no room for experimental anymore. I think Rob and Gleen can pull this off together man. Where is Hellrider!!!! Now we do need some in your face Judas Priest styled heavy metal because now nobody,not even K.K. is holding them back,the Priest will be unleashed once again if Rob and Glenn can pull this off!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Budred from Friday, April 22, 2011 7:18:56 AM)| | | Budred wrote: | | Man, everyone is entitled to their opinions and certainly you are too.
Me personally I hope it sounds nothing like Halford's latest.
| | | Udo S. wrote: | | I'm just glad he's ok after all the deaths in the metal scene lately.
I wish KK good luck and if he creates another "Nostradamus" I'll love it.
And I'm still looking forward to the Priest tour because I don't think KK's leaving will affect the show or the music much.
The new guitarist will have to fit in and play KK's parts - we'll just have to wait and see if he can but I bet he wouldn't be in the band if he couldn't!
We've still got the "original" 4 other members and in my opinion it won't be the same kind of desaster like when The Metal God left after Painkiller!
See you in Madrid and Colmar!
Hails from Germany,
Udo
EDIT: And I bet that the new album will be totally METAL as metal can be - just take a look at Halford IV!!!
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| [Budred] Friday, April 22, 2011 7:18:56 AM | |
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Man, everyone is entitled to their opinions and certainly you are too.
Me personally I hope it sounds nothing like Halford's latest.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Udo S. from Friday, April 22, 2011 3:09:40 AM)| | | Udo S. wrote: | | I'm just glad he's ok after all the deaths in the metal scene lately.
I wish KK good luck and if he creates another "Nostradamus" I'll love it.
And I'm still looking forward to the Priest tour because I don't think KK's leaving will affect the show or the music much.
The new guitarist will have to fit in and play KK's parts - we'll just have to wait and see if he can but I bet he wouldn't be in the band if he couldn't!
We've still got the "original" 4 other members and in my opinion it won't be the same kind of desaster like when The Metal God left after Painkiller!
See you in Madrid and Colmar!
Hails from Germany,
Udo
EDIT: And I bet that the new album will be totally METAL as metal can be - just take a look at Halford IV!!!
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| [Udo Sapper] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:09:40 AM | |
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I'm just glad he's ok after all the deaths in the metal scene lately.
I wish KK good luck and if he creates another "Nostradamus" I'll love it.
And I'm still looking forward to the Priest tour because I don't think KK's leaving will affect the show or the music much.
The new guitarist will have to fit in and play KK's parts - we'll just have to wait and see if he can but I bet he wouldn't be in the band if he couldn't!
We've still got the "original" 4 other members and in my opinion it won't be the same kind of desaster like when The Metal God left after Painkiller!
See you in Madrid and Colmar!
Hails from Germany,
Udo
EDIT: And I bet that the new album will be totally METAL as metal can be - just take a look at Halford IV!!!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, April 22, 2011 3:06:35 AM | |
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Jimmy you may be right,I don't know the band and I'm just guessing here. Anything is possible when it comes to this lame news. Everybody has thier own opinion of what they want. Some want the band to hang it up and retire now,some don't. I want to hear one last real heavy metal album. And if K.K. is having issues with the direction of the band that leaves us to wonder what the next LP will sound like. If its total metal and heavy,this will lead to the belief that K.K. didn't want to make a heavy album,or possibly didn't want to make an album at all. We'll see though.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:23:39 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | I think it is. The fact is the tour is due to begin very soon and the album is not due till 2012. They should get on with the tour with KK on board and he can step down afterwards before the next album is released, then they can tour that album with the new line up. If that's what they want to do. After nearly 40 years, doing a farewell world tour without your lead guitarist / principal songwriter / guy who started the band is inexcusable. Both parties should realise that what's important on a farewell tour is the audience. Surely they are old enough to deal with each other on a purely professional level. Everyone else has to work with people they don't like or agree with. It's not like they can't afford to get seperate hotel rooms.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I don't think its a "bunch" that can't get it together,I think its K.K. that couldn't get it together,either we were going to have no album or a Nostradamus type of an album....if thats true which I don't know if it is then I'd rather hear some new material from Rob and Glenn for one last album,what if the album is like Painkiller,or Defenders Of The Faith? Only time will tell,maybe it won't be as bad as we think.,but I do understand your point of view. LOL! I loved your earlier rant post Jimmy haha classic! lol!
| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | | This situation is comical. If a bunch of 60 year olds can't get it together enough on a personal and professional level to record an album and do a tour they might as well all call it a day and give the people who bought tickets their money back ( as if that would happen ). How bad is the situation when the guy who started the band says "fuck it" and walks away? If Priest somehow make it down to NZ ( which won't happen either), I will not be attending the show. |
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