Lake Shore Drive ??--in  Chicago??--alas you're in denial my friend !!--it's 3 Rivers' Stadium where all the action is !!

I'll bet you wished you was from PA right about now seeing as all the PA teams --pro  & college WON last weekend !!

		ronhartsell wrote:
		Sue, it doesn't matter to me what team you (or anyone else) root for, to see someone show passion about their team is what I respect.  That you root for the Cowboys or Lana roots for anything Pennsylvania () just gives me (and others ) something to pick on you guys about!!!  All in good fun!!  I'll never knock T.O.'s (or the others I mentioned) skills as a player, they are all great athletes in their own right, my problem is their 6 yr. old mentalities.  Could you imagine a co-worker acting like him at work and having to put up with it every day??  And Williams is the EXACT same way, I wonder how they are going to get along the rest of the season?!   By the way, you ever want to hook up with a real team, you'll run in to them on Lake Shore Drive (LSD) in Chicago!!         SueVicious wrote: Thanks.  I owe all my passion for the game to my big brother, who is an even BIGGER Dallas Cowboys fan than I am...even if he currently lives in RAIDERS land.  The thing that frustrates me the most about guys like T.O..they CAN be awesome players..just as long as they keep focused & keep their TRAPS SHUT.  T.O. played bad-ass last season.  Just wish he'd pull it off THIS year.  *sighs*      ronhartsell wrote: Pardon the interruption...but I must let you know DF that I've got your back on this one...I don't want to upset Sue, considering I love her passion for the game (I wish more women would be more like Her!!!)...but I grew up despising the Cowboys (only 'cause they were so good)...but with players like T.O., if you're a true fan of the game, you can't help but loathe a player like him (and he by NO means is the only player I feel this strongly about)...if a person is a serious Cowboys fan, you have to really be concerned with the team acquiring players such as WR Williams (from Detroit) and Pac Man Jones (suspended last year, Titans)...what is Jerry Jones thinking??  These are players Al Davis (Raiders) usually pick up!!  Those are really bad T E A M players that are selfish and put themselves ahead of the the rest of the team...why do you think their former teams were 'happy' to let them go??  And what do they pass on to the younger players??      Deep Freeze wrote: Well my dear, I do not wish to endanger our embryotic relationship but I must confess that I am a Dallas Cowboys Hater and I find Terrell Owens to be incredibly boorish and not nearly as talented as he believes himself to be. I do hope you will forgive me!!!!      SueVicious wrote: For REAL!!  Watching that game yesterday w/o him playing made me want to hollar out "Oh, Tony ROMEO!  Tony ROMEO!  Where art thou Tony ROMEO?!"  ROFL And it didn't help any w/ T.O yelling at team members & shit.  I'm thinking to myself, "Well, if you'd shut your trap for once, stop whining like a little BITCH,  & catch some damned PASSES today, we'd MAYBE be able to score more & possibly win the game!!!!"    I love T.O, but he was being a royal pain in the ass yesterday.  *sighs*      Deep Freeze wrote: I should hope that he does, my dear! Clearly it would be an upgrade! Your 'Boys looked absolutely horrendous yesterday.      SueVicious wrote: Maybe...just as long as he keeps his head out of Jessica Simpson's A$$!  He needs to break up w/ her & go out w/ ME, dammit!       lana wrote: makes ya wonder if they would've won if Tony Romeo would 've been able to play      SueVicious wrote: Man, this Cowboys game today is like watching a REALLY bad train wreck.  *sighs*  And now there's a THIRD interception by the Rams today.  I can't watch this anymore.  *turns off TV before I'm about to BREAK the dadgum thing*  *sighs* It doesn't help that most of the Cowboys key players are out from injuries & stuff including my Tony Romo.  It's HOPELESS.  They'd be damn LUCKY if they make it to the play-offs this season.  I don't see it happening unless the Cowboys go undefeated the rest of the season.

Very well said, Ron. Not too sure I can improve on that.
You see, I come from a time when we were taught team sport. There was no such thing as a trophy just for showing up and, if you were not good enough, you did not make the team. It did not matter what your parent thought or what some kiddie psychologigst said. If you were no good, you were no good and needed to find something else to do. Coaches taught us how to play together , to support one another. We were there to win and we knew that it would take all parts, working in unison, to achieve our objective not one guy doing it all while we admired him.

Of course there was the standout. The great player that would carry us through the tough times and gain the big yards or get the key hit when we needed it but other teams knew that as well and played to stop that particular player. At one time or another, I was actually that guy!!  Again, as a team, we could adjust to their folly and win the day. I will say this, in the entire time that I played sport, from school days right through adulthood, I never performed some stupid "victory dance" or acted out some moronic skit on the field of play. Never. Nor did any of my teammates. It was just not done. There is a certain dignity in being  a winner and moreso in being very good at what you do. I have never needed to remind anyone on the field of my ability by acting foolish. My play spoke quite loudly.

		ronhartsell wrote:
		Pardon the interruption...but I must let you know DF that I've got your back on this one...I don't want to upset Sue, considering I love her passion for the game (I wish more women would be more like Her!!!)...but I grew up despising the Cowboys (only 'cause they were so good)...but with players like T.O., if you're a true fan of the game, you can't help but loathe a player like him (and he by NO means is the only player I feel this strongly about)...if a person is a serious Cowboys fan, you have to really be concerned with the team acquiring players such as WR Williams (from Detroit) and Pac Man Jones (suspended last year, Titans)...what is Jerry Jones thinking??  These are players Al Davis (Raiders) usually pick up!!  Those are really bad T E A M players that are selfish and put themselves ahead of the the rest of the team...why do you think their former teams were 'happy' to let them go??  And what do they pass on to the younger players??      Deep Freeze wrote:   Well my dear, I do not wish to endanger our embryotic relationship but I must confess that I am a Dallas Cowboys Hater and I find Terrell Owens to be incredibly boorish and not nearly as talented as he believes himself to be. I do hope you will forgive me!!!!      SueVicious wrote:   For REAL!!  Watching that game yesterday w/o him playing made me want to hollar out "Oh, Tony ROMEO!  Tony ROMEO!  Where art thou Tony ROMEO?!"  ROFL And it didn't help any w/ T.O yelling at team members & shit.  I'm thinking to myself, "Well, if you'd shut your trap for once, stop whining like a little BITCH,  & catch some damned PASSES today, we'd MAYBE be able to score more & possibly win the game!!!!"    I love T.O, but he was being a royal pain in the ass yesterday.  *sighs*      Deep Freeze wrote:   I should hope that he does, my dear! Clearly it would be an upgrade! Your 'Boys looked absolutely horrendous yesterday.      SueVicious wrote:   Maybe...just as long as he keeps his head out of Jessica Simpson's A$$!  He needs to break up w/ her & go out w/ ME, dammit!       lana wrote:   makes ya wonder if they would've won if Tony Romeo would 've been able to play      SueVicious wrote:   Man, this Cowboys game today is like watching a REALLY bad train wreck.  *sighs*  And now there's a THIRD interception by the Rams today.  I can't watch this anymore.  *turns off TV before I'm about to BREAK the dadgum thing*  *sighs* It doesn't help that most of the Cowboys key players are out from injuries & stuff including my Tony Romo.  It's HOPELESS.  They'd be damn LUCKY if they make it to the play-offs this season.  I don't see it happening unless the Cowboys go undefeated the rest of the season.

Very well said, Ron. Not too sure I can improve on that.
You see, I come from a time when we were taught team sport. There was no such thing as a trophy just for showing up and, if you were not good enough, you did not make the team. It did not matter what your parent thought or what some kiddie psychologigst said. If you were no good, you were no good and needed to find something else to do. Coaches taught us how to play together , to support one another. We were there to win and we knew that it would take all parts, working in unison, to achieve our objective not one guy doing it all while we admired him.

Of course there was the standout. The great player that would carry us through the tough times and gain the big yards or get the key hit when we needed it but other teams knew that as well and played to stop that particular player. At one time or another, I was actually that guy!!  Again, as a team, we could adjust to their folly and win the day. I will say this, in the entire time that I played sport, from school days right through adulthood, I never performed some stupid "victory dance" or acted out some moronic skit on the field of play. Never. Nor did any of my teammates. It was just not done. There is a certain dignity in being  a winner and moreso in being very good at what you do. I have never needed to remind anyone on the field of my ability by acting foolish. My play spoke quite loudly.

		ronhartsell wrote:
		Pardon the interruption...but I must let you know DF that I've got your back on this one...I don't want to upset Sue, considering I love her passion for the game (I wish more women would be more like Her!!!)...but I grew up despising the Cowboys (only 'cause they were so good)...but with players like T.O., if you're a true fan of the game, you can't help but loathe a player like him (and he by NO means is the only player I feel this strongly about)...if a person is a serious Cowboys fan, you have to really be concerned with the team acquiring players such as WR Williams (from Detroit) and Pac Man Jones (suspended last year, Titans)...what is Jerry Jones thinking??  These are players Al Davis (Raiders) usually pick up!!  Those are really bad T E A M players that are selfish and put themselves ahead of the the rest of the team...why do you think their former teams were 'happy' to let them go??  And what do they pass on to the younger players??      Deep Freeze wrote:   Well my dear, I do not wish to endanger our embryotic relationship but I must confess that I am a Dallas Cowboys Hater and I find Terrell Owens to be incredibly boorish and not nearly as talented as he believes himself to be. I do hope you will forgive me!!!!      SueVicious wrote:   For REAL!!  Watching that game yesterday w/o him playing made me want to hollar out "Oh, Tony ROMEO!  Tony ROMEO!  Where art thou Tony ROMEO?!"  ROFL And it didn't help any w/ T.O yelling at team members & shit.  I'm thinking to myself, "Well, if you'd shut your trap for once, stop whining like a little BITCH,  & catch some damned PASSES today, we'd MAYBE be able to score more & possibly win the game!!!!"    I love T.O, but he was being a royal pain in the ass yesterday.  *sighs*      Deep Freeze wrote:   I should hope that he does, my dear! Clearly it would be an upgrade! Your 'Boys looked absolutely horrendous yesterday.      SueVicious wrote:   Maybe...just as long as he keeps his head out of Jessica Simpson's A$$!  He needs to break up w/ her & go out w/ ME, dammit!       lana wrote:   makes ya wonder if they would've won if Tony Romeo would 've been able to play      SueVicious wrote:   Man, this Cowboys game today is like watching a REALLY bad train wreck.  *sighs*  And now there's a THIRD interception by the Rams today.  I can't watch this anymore.  *turns off TV before I'm about to BREAK the dadgum thing*  *sighs* It doesn't help that most of the Cowboys key players are out from injuries & stuff including my Tony Romo.  It's HOPELESS.  They'd be damn LUCKY if they make it to the play-offs this season.  I don't see it happening unless the Cowboys go undefeated the rest of the season.