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| [Deep Freeze] Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:17:21 PM | |
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Point well taken, Justin. Well said. I have spent twenty years in finance. I have seen things that disgusted me and, quite frankly, there is something to be said for "fair" business. As to doing the "right thing" for ones family, I have to ask you this; is it REALLY the right thing to buy something you cannot afford? Where is the responsibility in purchasing a home, that you KNOW is not within your price range, simply because your family wants a house?
I may sound insensitive but I do not subscribe to the notion that "every American deserves to own a home". Wonderful sentiment but the reality is, there are MANY people that simply are NOT financially responsible enough to handle home ownership. To attempt to blame shady business practices for the problem of financial ineptness is just wrong. Get help if you do not understand something. It is incredibly irresponsible to buy something as major as a house when you are not able to understand what you are doing.
I do not support companies that prey on uneducated borrowers. I have long held the position that "stated income" loans and other "creative" financing is not good business. Putting people into mortgages they cannot afford is criminal, to me. This is more of the old American desire to have it all and have the best...NOW. That is a shame, my friend. I am thankful you and your family managed to get a beautiful home at a fair price. That it what it is ALL about. BUT, equally important is understanding that not everyone can handle homeownership and that is NOT the fault of the government, you or me.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Justin Kenny from Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:59:08 AM)| |  | Justin Kenny wrote: | | My wife and I didn't know a whole helluva lot about the whole home-buying process either. As mercy would have it, the people we bought our home from just so happened to be real-estate attorneys....they knew the business in and out and literally walked us through it each step of the way.
My wife initially tried to score a mortgage lend through an online company....needless to say, we found out toot-sweet that it wasn't the best thing. Thankfully, she had enough tenacity and temerity to eventually tell them to go fuck themselves, and we consulted with the real-estate attorneys who were selling the home in the first place. The one thing we KNEW COLD...was that we wanted to be locked into a FIXED RATE....Don Coyles, one of the real estate attys who was selling the home on behalf of his deceased parents hooked us up big time...along with what I was able to borrow from my 401K, he himself ponied up an extra $1,600--which was broken down and incorporated with our mortgage payment every month so that he would be paid back. Not only did they want to sell the house in an expedient a fashion as possible, he (along with his sister, who works with him) wanted very much for a family to buy the home. They seemed to fall in love with the lot of us upon merely SEEING the house, and for each little failure that occurred before Don thought up a 'plan B,' they felt our pain and frustration. He'd done business with the lender bank we're dealing with (and will be for the next 28 years..LOL), and through his frequent dealings, they helped see everything through. Our rate hasn't changed one iota since, and isn't about to. Were we lucky?? Painfully... sadly, a lot of equally naive people who just want what's best for themselves and their families get taken for a ride because they didn't take appropriate steps/measures. But ...in all fairness, the companies out there who see the possible financial dangers people face once they begin signing their names and don't say a blessed thing about it...that's something I would find issue with. It's one thing to secure a deal...but it's another when that deal can no longer be honored because 3-6 years later, the shit hits the fan and these same companies just sit there shrugging their shoulders--talkin''bout...."...there's nothing we can do."
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | OK readers! It is finally time for my first, official rant since my return!
Most of you here in the US are aware of the "financial crisis" we are experiencing. I have ranted in the past on this subject and, LONG before it actually occurred, I said much of what I will say now. ( I mention this only as a foundation for credibility!!) People in this country are screaming about greed and capitalism. Financial turmoil! Government indifference. HOGWASH!! Let us look at the facts, people;
Can ANYONE actually produce the gun that was allegedly held to the temples of the borrowers that put little to NO money down on their homes, took a "teaser" (low) interest rate and then pleaded ignorance or victimhood when the lender- as stipulated in the friggin contract-jacked up their rate??!?!??! These people EXPECTED some kind of government or taxpayer intervention that would shield them from the consequences of their actions. This creates something I was taught in college as "moral hazard", which is behavior based upon the knowledge of protection from bad consequences or irresponsible choices.
Now folks are yelling for more regulation. We already have PLENTY of it! Anyone ever hear of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight???? This agency exisits for ONE reason; to regulate FREDDIE and FANNIE. That's right! Already in place! Wow! Regulation, people! I just do not see this as some kind of "indictment" of capitalism. Sorry. Not there.
What if we all just actually TRY real capitalism for once??? Capitalism has been defined as, "what people do if you leave them alone". Let them make their own mistakes. Suffer consequences. Sink or swim.
In the 1930's, before Roosevelt's New Deal, we paid about 12% of our income to ALL of government (state, local and federal). Today it is about 40%! *ouch* I suppose that in itself does suggest failure but I say it is a failure to practice TRUE capitalism. A failure to accept consequences and believe in real value. A failure to be RESPONSIBLE.
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| [Justin Kenny] Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:59:08 AM | |
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My wife and I didn't know a whole helluva lot about the whole home-buying process either. As mercy would have it, the people we bought our home from just so happened to be real-estate attorneys....they knew the business in and out and literally walked us through it each step of the way.
My wife initially tried to score a mortgage lend through an online company....needless to say, we found out toot-sweet that it wasn't the best thing. Thankfully, she had enough tenacity and temerity to eventually tell them to go fuck themselves, and we consulted with the real-estate attorneys who were selling the home in the first place. The one thing we KNEW COLD...was that we wanted to be locked into a FIXED RATE....Don Coyles, one of the real estate attys who was selling the home on behalf of his deceased parents hooked us up big time...along with what I was able to borrow from my 401K, he himself ponied up an extra $1,600--which was broken down and incorporated with our mortgage payment every month so that he would be paid back. Not only did they want to sell the house in an expedient a fashion as possible, he (along with his sister, who works with him) wanted very much for a family to buy the home. They seemed to fall in love with the lot of us upon merely SEEING the house, and for each little failure that occurred before Don thought up a 'plan B,' they felt our pain and frustration. He'd done business with the lender bank we're dealing with (and will be for the next 28 years..LOL), and through his frequent dealings, they helped see everything through. Our rate hasn't changed one iota since, and isn't about to. Were we lucky?? Painfully... sadly, a lot of equally naive people who just want what's best for themselves and their families get taken for a ride because they didn't take appropriate steps/measures. But ...in all fairness, the companies out there who see the possible financial dangers people face once they begin signing their names and don't say a blessed thing about it...that's something I would find issue with. It's one thing to secure a deal...but it's another when that deal can no longer be honored because 3-6 years later, the shit hits the fan and these same companies just sit there shrugging their shoulders--talkin''bout...."...there's nothing we can do."
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:16:26 AM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | OK readers! It is finally time for my first, official rant since my return!
Most of you here in the US are aware of the "financial crisis" we are experiencing. I have ranted in the past on this subject and, LONG before it actually occurred, I said much of what I will say now. ( I mention this only as a foundation for credibility!!) People in this country are screaming about greed and capitalism. Financial turmoil! Government indifference. HOGWASH!! Let us look at the facts, people;
Can ANYONE actually produce the gun that was allegedly held to the temples of the borrowers that put little to NO money down on their homes, took a "teaser" (low) interest rate and then pleaded ignorance or victimhood when the lender- as stipulated in the friggin contract-jacked up their rate??!?!??! These people EXPECTED some kind of government or taxpayer intervention that would shield them from the consequences of their actions. This creates something I was taught in college as "moral hazard", which is behavior based upon the knowledge of protection from bad consequences or irresponsible choices.
Now folks are yelling for more regulation. We already have PLENTY of it! Anyone ever hear of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight???? This agency exisits for ONE reason; to regulate FREDDIE and FANNIE. That's right! Already in place! Wow! Regulation, people! I just do not see this as some kind of "indictment" of capitalism. Sorry. Not there.
What if we all just actually TRY real capitalism for once??? Capitalism has been defined as, "what people do if you leave them alone". Let them make their own mistakes. Suffer consequences. Sink or swim.
In the 1930's, before Roosevelt's New Deal, we paid about 12% of our income to ALL of government (state, local and federal). Today it is about 40%! *ouch* I suppose that in itself does suggest failure but I say it is a failure to practice TRUE capitalism. A failure to accept consequences and believe in real value. A failure to be RESPONSIBLE.
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OK readers! It is finally time for my first, official rant since my return!
Most of you here in the US are aware of the "financial crisis" we are experiencing. I have ranted in the past on this subject and, LONG before it actually occurred, I said much of what I will say now. ( I mention this only as a foundation for credibility!!) People in this country are screaming about greed and capitalism. Financial turmoil! Government indifference. HOGWASH!! Let us look at the facts, people;
Can ANYONE actually produce the gun that was allegedly held to the temples of the borrowers that put little to NO money down on their homes, took a "teaser" (low) interest rate and then pleaded ignorance or victimhood when the lender- as stipulated in the friggin contract-jacked up their rate??!?!??! These people EXPECTED some kind of government or taxpayer intervention that would shield them from the consequences of their actions. This creates something I was taught in college as "moral hazard", which is behavior based upon the knowledge of protection from bad consequences or irresponsible choices.
Now folks are yelling for more regulation. We already have PLENTY of it! Anyone ever hear of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight???? This agency exisits for ONE reason; to regulate FREDDIE and FANNIE. That's right! Already in place! Wow! Regulation, people! I just do not see this as some kind of "indictment" of capitalism. Sorry. Not there.
What if we all just actually TRY real capitalism for once??? Capitalism has been defined as, "what people do if you leave them alone". Let them make their own mistakes. Suffer consequences. Sink or swim.
In the 1930's, before Roosevelt's New Deal, we paid about 12% of our income to ALL of government (state, local and federal). Today it is about 40%! *ouch* I suppose that in itself does suggest failure but I say it is a failure to practice TRUE capitalism. A failure to accept consequences and believe in real value. A failure to be RESPONSIBLE.
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| [Head banger] Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:06:32 PM | |
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don't worry, I dont want to go to edmonton either. and this week, for the first time in a month, I dont have to go. next week, back at it....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:04:13 PM)| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Omg Hell Yeah .. I didnt realize you that were tthat close to me.. Iam in the town of Winnipeg beach, 50 klm north of the city... Yes that greyhound bus incident.. what a fricken nightmare.. And it seems all these all these freaky bus incidents are from people from Edmonton.. LMAO .. Stay outta that city... ( just kiddin headbanger)
I would love to go see the priest in Cardiff Wales.. Someplace I have wanted to visit for a long time anywase..
Iam supposed to go to California in December, But the Bahamas are lookin better everyday.. I love to scuba dive.. and the water is so murky in Calfornia. .. Anywase..
Yes we should def stay in touch...
Hugs to you girl,, stay safe...
MG~
| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Hey MG,
We'll have to meet up sometime, we're just next door in Alberta. If you're ever passin' thru ....
When we went to Vegas we went thru the Sweetgrass border south of Lethbridge @ midnight. Gave us a bit of trouble, but I just think that's their job & being grumpy is part of their job-description. Didn't help when he asked if we've ever been finger-printed. It's a wonder we got across when we both had that 'deer in the headlights' stare ... lol!
(Was following Priest to Winnipeg when that idiot cut on a Greyhound cut that guy's head off and jammed up the highway. We were already late, so that (as they say), was that! (We had our front row VIP Meet & Greets, so none too freakin' happy.) I could've single-handedly wrangled that guy from the bus myself, at that point! Got the VIP refunded, but stuck with the tix... |
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| [WhiskeyWoman] Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:18:03 PM | |
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Hey MG...
Yes, well... we kind of noticed the 'trend' going on in the buses from Edmonton these days. Facts are facts!
We have some things in common! Wales is where my Grandma's from. Never been there, but gotta go to the Celtic Capitol... And, you're so brave diving. (I'm totally freaked out from a diving accident years ago and doubt I'll ever go down there again! Eeeeek!)
Very cool.
But, back on topic ... what pisses me off ... is that the whole section of Alice Cooper the other night was sitting down, with nary a bobbing head or tapping foot among them!! (Except us, who stood & rocked out the whole time -- so thank goodness we were at the back of the terrace with no-one behind us.)
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:04:13 PM | |
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Omg Hell Yeah .. I didnt realize you that were tthat close to me.. Iam in the town of Winnipeg beach, 50 klm north of the city... Yes that greyhound bus incident.. what a fricken nightmare.. And it seems all these all these freaky bus incidents are from people from Edmonton.. LMAO.. Stay outta that city... ( just kiddin headbanger)
I would love to go see the priest in Cardiff Wales.. Someplace I have wanted to visit for a long time anywase..
Iam supposed to go to California in December, But the Bahamas are lookin better everyday.. I love to scuba dive.. and the water is so murky in Calfornia. .. Anywase..
Yes we should def stay in touch...
Hugs to you girl,, stay safe...
MG~
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by WhiskeyWoman from Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:58:37 PM)| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Hey MG,
We'll have to meet up sometime, we're just next door in Alberta. If you're ever passin' thru ....
When we went to Vegas we went thru the Sweetgrass border south of Lethbridge @ midnight. Gave us a bit of trouble, but I just think that's their job & being grumpy is part of their job-description. Didn't help when he asked if we've ever been finger-printed. It's a wonder we got across when we both had that 'deer in the headlights' stare ... lol!
(Was following Priest to Winnipeg when that idiot cut on a Greyhound cut that guy's head off and jammed up the highway. We were already late, so that (as they say), was that! (We had our front row VIP Meet & Greets, so none too freakin' happy.) I could've single-handedly wrangled that guy from the bus myself, at that point! Got the VIP refunded, but stuck with the tix... |
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| [WhiskeyWoman] Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:58:37 PM | |
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Hey MG,
We'll have to meet up sometime, we're just next door in Alberta. If you're ever passin' thru ....
When we went to Vegas we went thru the Sweetgrass border south of Lethbridge @ midnight. Gave us a bit of trouble, but I just think that's their job & being grumpy is part of their job-description. Didn't help when he asked if we've ever been finger-printed. It's a wonder we got across when we both had that 'deer in the headlights' stare ... lol!
(Was following Priest to Winnipeg when that idiot cut on a Greyhound cut that guy's head off and jammed up the highway. We were already late, so that (as they say), was that! (We had our front row VIP Meet & Greets, so none too freakin' happy.) I could've single-handedly wrangled that guy from the bus myself, at that point! Got the VIP refunded, but stuck with the tix... |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:36:42 PM | |
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Yeah the BC side sucks.. Kenny said they gave them a hard time regarding their passports.. And checked everything.. Iam sure they were trying to be dickheads ( the border patrol) I have heard that about the BC border.. FBI wanna bee's But KK wasafraid they werent going to let them in.. and after a big whoop=dee do they did finally get over.. Geezus..
I just told them that next time they will just have to stay at my house...LMAO
I usally go through in Alberta or a smaller non-busy area.. Or the Minneasota border crossing is not that bad..
Hopefully next time they wont give them such hard a time... Iam glad Iam in Manitoba...LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by WhiskeyWoman from Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:12:43 PM)| | | WhiskeyWoman wrote: | | Hey MG,
Well, it's time for that other story about how they have trouble getting into Canada on the BC side.
All I can say is, "It Figures". That province has too many rules, too much rain, and rightfully deserves it's unofficial Canadian title as "The No-Fun Zone". Also, BC = Bring Cash in Canadian, eh? 
So ... what's the story?
(When we immigrated from New Zealand to Canada, we had big problems at the Peace Arch crossing too. We were not impressed. Anyway, nice to know we are in good company!)
| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Guido its strange .. But when I meet KK we had a conversation about this..
Someone brought a gold/platnum record to one of the meet and greet's for the band to sign.. Ken was in shock.. he told me because only a few were made.. I think it was from British steel, anywase..LMAO The band just kinda looked at each other, because they knew all of them were accounted for.. they asked the guy where he bought it.. and guess what he said... e-bay..lol This stuff really annoys the band, because Kenny knew it was a fake.. I cant remeber if he said they signed it or not.. That whole night was a dream to me.. anywase..
What annoyed them the most is the fact that people are selling false merchandise, and selling out the band..
Becareful what you buy on e-bay.. Cause 99% of the time its fake..
He also told me that they has trouble getting into canada on the british colombia side..LMAO another story,,,,,,
Hugs to you...
Have a great tuesday!
MG~
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I absolutely loathe autograph whores that only seek out the famous to sign and sell on eBay. Especially when it is MY band.
Ok, I understand when a true fan had something signed and is in a financial crunch or just feels that it is time to let a signed item go. However, the bastards that seem to make a pretty good living out of having people (PRIEST!) sign things just to sell it for profit should be relegated to Dante's fourth circle of Hell, IMO. Squandered possessions. Ruins things for the rest of us. No wonder I couldn't get my tuba signed at the meet and greet...
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| [WhiskeyWoman] Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:12:43 PM | |
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Hey MG,
Well, it's time for that other story about how they have trouble getting into Canada on the BC side.
All I can say is, "It Figures". That province has too many rules, too much rain, and rightfully deserves it's unofficial Canadian title as "The No-Fun Zone". Also, BC = Bring Cash in Canadian, eh?
So ... what's the story?
(When we immigrated from New Zealand to Canada, we had big problems at the Peace Arch crossing too. We were not impressed. Anyway, nice to know we are in good company!)
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:47:23 AM)| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Guido its strange .. But when I meet KK we had a conversation about this..
Someone brought a gold/platnum record to one of the meet and greet's for the band to sign.. Ken was in shock.. he told me because only a few were made.. I think it was from British steel, anywase..LMAO The band just kinda looked at each other, because they knew all of them were accounted for.. they asked the guy where he bought it.. and guess what he said... e-bay..lol This stuff really annoys the band, because Kenny knew it was a fake.. I cant remeber if he said they signed it or not.. That whole night was a dream to me.. anywase..
What annoyed them the most is the fact that people are selling false merchandise, and selling out the band..
Becareful what you buy on e-bay.. Cause 99% of the time its fake..
He also told me that they has trouble getting into canada on the british colombia side..LMAO another story,,,,,,
Hugs to you...
Have a great tuesday!
MG~
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I absolutely loathe autograph whores that only seek out the famous to sign and sell on eBay. Especially when it is MY band.
Ok, I understand when a true fan had something signed and is in a financial crunch or just feels that it is time to let a signed item go. However, the bastards that seem to make a pretty good living out of having people (PRIEST!) sign things just to sell it for profit should be relegated to Dante's fourth circle of Hell, IMO. Squandered possessions. Ruins things for the rest of us. No wonder I couldn't get my tuba signed at the meet and greet...
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:02:14 PM | |
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Lmao Vaill you know whats funner... go plac the damm thing on some train tracks,, and watch a high speed train hit it.. they bust into like a million pieces... eerr ehhh not that I have done that or anything... LMAO
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:59:33 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Ha! Careful. When I was an Undergrad I had a walkman. Damn top of the line (cassette, of course) that mysteriously started acting up. One ear or the other would cut out for no reason. REALLY began to piss me off. Moral of the story was that I was listening to it when walking back to the dorms and it starts the usuall mischief. I just got sick of it and went around to the back of the building and whipped that sucker as hard as I could against the wall splintering it into a thousand pieces. Felt just fantastic.
It was only later that I figured out that the problem was really with the headphones...
| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | My printer has been a thorn on my side for the last few days. Everytime I try to print something, there's a paper jam!!! It ruined most of my computer paper!!!!!!!! At this point I want to throw it off a freeway bridge. Goddamn piece of junk... 
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| [guidogodoy] Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:59:33 PM | |
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Ha! Careful. When I was an Undergrad I had a walkman. Damn top of the line (cassette, of course) that mysteriously started acting up. One ear or the other would cut out for no reason. REALLY began to piss me off. Moral of the story was that I was listening to it when walking back to the dorms and it starts the usuall mischief. I just got sick of it and went around to the back of the building and whipped that sucker as hard as I could against the wall splintering it into a thousand pieces. Felt just fantastic.
It was only later that I figured out that the problem was really with the headphones...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Vaillant 3.0 from Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:34:59 PM)| | | Vaillant 3.0 wrote: | | My printer has been a thorn on my side for the last few days. Everytime I try to print something, there's a paper jam!!! It ruined most of my computer paper!!!!!!!! At this point I want to throw it off a freeway bridge. Goddamn piece of junk...
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:34:59 PM | |
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My printer has been a thorn on my side for the last few days. Everytime I try to print something, there's a paper jam!!! It ruined most of my computer paper!!!!!!!! At this point I want to throw it off a freeway bridge. Goddamn piece of junk...
The fact that my internet connection suddenly slowed down to a snail's pace doesn't make the situation any better. |
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| [joedraper] Saturday, October 04, 2008 1:36:46 PM | |
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| Thanks guys...Believe it or not, I'm generally a pretty happy person so I have no idea why I'm still feeling like this but.. like you both say, things will get better and I really need to stop thinking about this for too much longer... I'm going to take my kids to the beach tomorrow and take a lot of photo's and maybe try to write something constructive... lets see what happens.... |
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| [K2M] Friday, October 03, 2008 7:29:32 PM | |
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Dont think so much joe. Maybe do something you really dont want to do. Things will change, you have a warm heart.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:04:24 PM)| | | joedraper wrote: | | | My life is not going in the direction that I want it to be heading.... I want to live but feel like I need to die.... Like Sheryl Crow says..... " If It makes yu happy.... it can't be that bad" If It makes you happpy then why am I so sad????? '''''''''''''\are these just insane fragments of a scattered mind or does it need a whole new thread???/ |
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| [momo] Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:07:16 PM | |
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So sorry your feeling so down Joe, everybody gets he blues every now and then, things will get better,
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by joedraper from Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:04:24 PM)| | | joedraper wrote: | | | My life is not going in the direction that I want it to be heading.... I want to live but feel like I need to die.... Like Sheryl Crow says..... " If It makes yu happy.... it can't be that bad" If It makes you happpy then why am I so sad????? '''''''''''''\are these just insane fragments of a scattered mind or does it need a whole new thread???/ |
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| [joedraper] Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:04:24 PM | |
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| My life is not going in the direction that I want it to be heading.... I want to live but feel like I need to die.... Like Sheryl Crow says..... " If It makes yu happy.... it can't be that bad" If It makes you happpy then why am I so sad????? '''''''''''''\are these just insane fragments of a scattered mind or does it need a whole new thread???/ |
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| [guidogodoy] Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:20:17 PM | |
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Cool! I am really glad to learn that they didn't sign it (and that you managed to find out!). I can also understand why Glenn got pissed when, as someone posted here, he was signing a guitar pickguard and someone took his picture doing it. That would really piss me off too as it is often the mark of the autograph scummy "professional." As I said, ruins it for the real fans. Amoral, even, IMO.
Thanks for the follow-up. I appreciate the info.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:18:34 PM)| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Hey guido.... I found out, through my personal grape vine...LMAO They did not sign it! The gold album.
Kenny stated that there is to much fraud out there, and he wasnt going to sign something that was not authentic~
So it could then be sold out on e-bay again, as a un- original, judas priest band item.
SO there is your answer..LMAO I had to know too .. I couldnt remeber .. I guess I was star struck, by the mans blue eyes..
I have only bought a few things on e-bay, Raider tickets ect.. and yes I agree with you 100% you have to really research these things out.
Hugs my friend,
MG~
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Interesting, MG. I'd be curious to know if they signed that gold album as well. I would disagree with your 99% stat of fakes on eBay, though. I certainly haven't found this to be the case. One certainly has to do the research, though. I have their autographs on multiple items and even bought a couple off eBay. Not for the autographs, necessarily, but for the item. I have absolutely NO doubt that the autographs are real. Then again, I am not the "casual" Priest fan by any stretch of the imagination. I have their autographs on many an item and could care less about PSA authentication. I ask a lot of questions and it is really easy to distinguish the bullshitters from roadies.
This being said, I own two gold albums of theirs as well. First came from a charity organization that is beautiful and has every mark of authenticity. Second I knew was a fake (Breaking the Law!...had to have it). Quality is night and day different. However, a while back I saw the one I HAD no doubts of being authentic being offered on eBay. All the actual ones had serial numbers in hologram seals, after all. As the picture posted didn't have the serial, I asked. Damned if that bastard didn't give me my exact serial # back but, "accidentally", left off the final digit! Well, I offered the final digit might be the same as mine to get no response at all. Typical.
My original post came after looking at the current GUITARS that are being offered on eBay. What lowlife bastards. Offer "positive proof" of a signing but to just turn and sell it. Hell, the pictures don't match even the PLACE they are pictured as signing irrespective of the fact that the autographs were either really sloppy or complete fakes. My money would be on completely sloppy as that would be how I'd handle anyone I perceived to be an autograph hound. It would certainly catch a careless fan, though. LOOKS close. Sadly, no cigar.
A great Two for Tuesday to you too!
| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Guido its strange .. But when I meet KK we had a conversation about this..
Someone brought a gold/platnum record to one of the meet and greet's for the band to sign.. Ken was in shock.. he told me because only a few were made.. I think it was from British steel, anywase..LMAO The band just kinda looked at each other, because they knew all of them were accounted for.. they asked the guy where he bought it.. and guess what he said... e-bay..lol This stuff really annoys the band, because Kenny knew it was a fake.. I cant remeber if he said they signed it or not.. That whole night was a dream to me.. anywase..
What annoyed them the most is the fact that people are selling false merchandise, and selling out the band..
Becareful what you buy on e-bay.. Cause 99% of the time its fake..
He also told me that they has trouble getting into canada on the british colombia side..LMAO another story,,,,,,
Hugs to you...
Have a great tuesday!
MG~
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I absolutely loathe autograph whores that only seek out the famous to sign and sell on eBay. Especially when it is MY band.
Ok, I understand when a true fan had something signed and is in a financial crunch or just feels that it is time to let a signed item go. However, the bastards that seem to make a pretty good living out of having people (PRIEST!) sign things just to sell it for profit should be relegated to Dante's fourth circle of Hell, IMO. Squandered possessions. Ruins things for the rest of us. No wonder I couldn't get my tuba signed at the meet and greet...
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:20:41 PM | |
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OMG remeber that guy that came out here and was bitchin about Glenn not wanting to sign his guitar? and he said glenn was pissy about it.. and signed it anywase.. I wonder if that is him selling it on e-bay. LMAO
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:18:34 PM | |
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Hey guido.... I found out, through my personal grape vine...LMAO They did not sign it! The gold album.
Kenny stated that there is to much fraud out there, and he wasnt going to sign something that was not authentic~
So it could then be sold out on e-bay again, as a un- original, judas priest band item.
SO there is your answer..LMAO I had to know too .. I couldnt remeber .. I guess I was star struck, by the mans blue eyes..
I have only bought a few things on e-bay, Raider tickets ect.. and yes I agree with you 100% you have to really research these things out.
Hugs my friend,
MG~
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:37:08 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Interesting, MG. I'd be curious to know if they signed that gold album as well. I would disagree with your 99% stat of fakes on eBay, though. I certainly haven't found this to be the case. One certainly has to do the research, though. I have their autographs on multiple items and even bought a couple off eBay. Not for the autographs, necessarily, but for the item. I have absolutely NO doubt that the autographs are real. Then again, I am not the "casual" Priest fan by any stretch of the imagination. I have their autographs on many an item and could care less about PSA authentication. I ask a lot of questions and it is really easy to distinguish the bullshitters from roadies.
This being said, I own two gold albums of theirs as well. First came from a charity organization that is beautiful and has every mark of authenticity. Second I knew was a fake (Breaking the Law!...had to have it). Quality is night and day different. However, a while back I saw the one I HAD no doubts of being authentic being offered on eBay. All the actual ones had serial numbers in hologram seals, after all. As the picture posted didn't have the serial, I asked. Damned if that bastard didn't give me my exact serial # back but, "accidentally", left off the final digit! Well, I offered the final digit might be the same as mine to get no response at all. Typical.
My original post came after looking at the current GUITARS that are being offered on eBay. What lowlife bastards. Offer "positive proof" of a signing but to just turn and sell it. Hell, the pictures don't match even the PLACE they are pictured as signing irrespective of the fact that the autographs were either really sloppy or complete fakes. My money would be on completely sloppy as that would be how I'd handle anyone I perceived to be an autograph hound. It would certainly catch a careless fan, though. LOOKS close. Sadly, no cigar.
A great Two for Tuesday to you too!
| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Guido its strange .. But when I meet KK we had a conversation about this..
Someone brought a gold/platnum record to one of the meet and greet's for the band to sign.. Ken was in shock.. he told me because only a few were made.. I think it was from British steel, anywase..LMAO The band just kinda looked at each other, because they knew all of them were accounted for.. they asked the guy where he bought it.. and guess what he said... e-bay..lol This stuff really annoys the band, because Kenny knew it was a fake.. I cant remeber if he said they signed it or not.. That whole night was a dream to me.. anywase..
What annoyed them the most is the fact that people are selling false merchandise, and selling out the band..
Becareful what you buy on e-bay.. Cause 99% of the time its fake..
He also told me that they has trouble getting into canada on the british colombia side..LMAO another story,,,,,,
Hugs to you...
Have a great tuesday!
MG~
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I absolutely loathe autograph whores that only seek out the famous to sign and sell on eBay. Especially when it is MY band.
Ok, I understand when a true fan had something signed and is in a financial crunch or just feels that it is time to let a signed item go. However, the bastards that seem to make a pretty good living out of having people (PRIEST!) sign things just to sell it for profit should be relegated to Dante's fourth circle of Hell, IMO. Squandered possessions. Ruins things for the rest of us. No wonder I couldn't get my tuba signed at the meet and greet...
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Interesting, MG. I'd be curious to know if they signed that gold album as well. I would disagree with your 99% stat of fakes on eBay, though. I certainly haven't found this to be the case. One certainly has to do the research, though. I have their autographs on multiple items and even bought a couple off eBay. Not for the autographs, necessarily, but for the item. I have absolutely NO doubt that the autographs are real. Then again, I am not the "casual" Priest fan by any stretch of the imagination. I have their autographs on many an item and could care less about PSA authentication. I ask a lot of questions and it is really easy to distinguish the bullshitters from roadies.
This being said, I own two gold albums of theirs as well. First came from a charity organization that is beautiful and has every mark of authenticity. Second I knew was a fake (Breaking the Law!...had to have it). Quality is night and day different. However, a while back I saw the one I HAD no doubts of being authentic being offered on eBay. All the actual ones had serial numbers in hologram seals, after all. As the picture posted didn't have the serial, I asked. Damned if that bastard didn't give me my exact serial # back but, "accidentally", left off the final digit! Well, I offered the final digit might be the same as mine to get no response at all. Typical.
My original post came after looking at the current GUITARS that are being offered on eBay. What lowlife bastards. Offer "positive proof" of a signing but to just turn and sell it. Hell, the pictures don't match even the PLACE they are pictured as signing irrespective of the fact that the autographs were either really sloppy or complete fakes. My money would be on completely sloppy as that would be how I'd handle anyone I perceived to be an autograph hound. It would certainly catch a careless fan, though. LOOKS close. Sadly, no cigar.
A great Two for Tuesday to you too!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:47:23 AM)| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Guido its strange .. But when I meet KK we had a conversation about this..
Someone brought a gold/platnum record to one of the meet and greet's for the band to sign.. Ken was in shock.. he told me because only a few were made.. I think it was from British steel, anywase..LMAO The band just kinda looked at each other, because they knew all of them were accounted for.. they asked the guy where he bought it.. and guess what he said... e-bay..lol This stuff really annoys the band, because Kenny knew it was a fake.. I cant remeber if he said they signed it or not.. That whole night was a dream to me.. anywase..
What annoyed them the most is the fact that people are selling false merchandise, and selling out the band..
Becareful what you buy on e-bay.. Cause 99% of the time its fake..
He also told me that they has trouble getting into canada on the british colombia side..LMAO another story,,,,,,
Hugs to you...
Have a great tuesday!
MG~
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I absolutely loathe autograph whores that only seek out the famous to sign and sell on eBay. Especially when it is MY band.
Ok, I understand when a true fan had something signed and is in a financial crunch or just feels that it is time to let a signed item go. However, the bastards that seem to make a pretty good living out of having people (PRIEST!) sign things just to sell it for profit should be relegated to Dante's fourth circle of Hell, IMO. Squandered possessions. Ruins things for the rest of us. No wonder I couldn't get my tuba signed at the meet and greet...
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:47:23 AM | |
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Guido its strange .. But when I meet KK we had a conversation about this..
Someone brought a gold/platnum record to one of the meet and greet's for the band to sign.. Ken was in shock.. he told me because only a few were made.. I think it was from British steel, anywase..LMAO The band just kinda looked at each other, because they knew all of them were accounted for.. they asked the guy where he bought it.. and guess what he said... e-bay..lol This stuff really annoys the band, because Kenny knew it was a fake.. I cant remeber if he said they signed it or not.. That whole night was a dream to me.. anywase..
What annoyed them the most is the fact that people are selling false merchandise, and selling out the band..
Becareful what you buy on e-bay.. Cause 99% of the time its fake..
He also told me that they has trouble getting into canada on the british colombia side..LMAO another story,,,,,,
Hugs to you...
Have a great tuesday!
MG~
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Monday, September 29, 2008 11:51:57 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | I absolutely loathe autograph whores that only seek out the famous to sign and sell on eBay. Especially when it is MY band.
Ok, I understand when a true fan had something signed and is in a financial crunch or just feels that it is time to let a signed item go. However, the bastards that seem to make a pretty good living out of having people (PRIEST!) sign things just to sell it for profit should be relegated to Dante's fourth circle of Hell, IMO. Squandered possessions. Ruins things for the rest of us. No wonder I couldn't get my tuba signed at the meet and greet...
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I absolutely loathe autograph whores that only seek out the famous to sign and sell on eBay. Especially when it is MY band.
Ok, I understand when a true fan had something signed and is in a financial crunch or just feels that it is time to let a signed item go. However, the bastards that seem to make a pretty good living out of having people (PRIEST!) sign things just to sell it for profit should be relegated to Dante's fourth circle of Hell, IMO. Squandered possessions. Ruins things for the rest of us. No wonder I couldn't get my tuba signed at the meet and greet...
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| [judasfreak666] Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:31:03 AM | |
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| [VICTIM OF METAL] Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:56:01 PM | |
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Hmmm, careful careful. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:49:48 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | PEOPLE WHO TYPE IN ALL CAPS! Sounds like they are trying to shout on a keyboard. There is a key called "caps lock."
Learn it, live it, love it.
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:02:59 AM | |
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Be one with the Keyboard...hmmmm hmmmmmm...LOL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:49:48 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | PEOPLE WHO TYPE IN ALL CAPS! Sounds like they are trying to shout on a keyboard. There is a key called "caps lock."
Learn it, live it, love it.
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| [guidogodoy] Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:07:48 PM | |
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Certainly don't mean YOU me beer swillin' mate! Color, spelling and general coherent sentences mean EVERYTHING!
GO WINGS!!! LOL!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u from Monday, September 22, 2008 7:43:58 PM)| | | Soylentgreen4u wrote: | | | STUPID...DUMBASS...LAME...IGNORANT...ALL THE WIT,CHARM AND PERSONALITY OF A BOILED POTATO...LOW SELF ESTEEM...JACKASSES... WHO HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANIMALS OR OTHER PEOPLES FEELINGS. (ACTUALLY THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY PISS ME OFF,BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WASTING A GENUINE EMOTION ON THEM. I JUST FELT LIKE SAYING IT) |
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| [VICTIM OF METAL] Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:59:31 PM | |
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| People who don't or can't understand we can't always agree on some things. But if you don't see it their way they attack in such a way you think you might be dealing with a child. It's a forum we are here to agree and sometimes disagree. Oh yea, and make some new friends. |
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| [guidogodoy] Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:49:48 PM | |
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PEOPLE WHO TYPE IN ALL CAPS! Sounds like they are trying to shout on a keyboard. There is a key called "caps lock."
Learn it, live it, love it.
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:13:39 PM | |
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Yes certian members that come onto this board.. with intent to hurt others..
Just a FYI.. we all know who you are..
And the constant changing your log-in id, and ect.. doesnt always work.. because your true colors will always show through!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been myself, thrown into this fire, with someone using my ID.. Lets just hope that this person doesnt see me in person.. Because as the song goes... YOU GOTTA NOTHER THING COMIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the sooner you grow up and start acting like a civil adult, and join in the fun.. the better off we all will be including yourself!
As to my true friends out here.. I will always be grateful to you and your kindness.. You have all helped me through a stressful time in my life.. Thanks for beign the true you!!!! which is what I will always call a Friend!
MG~ |
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[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u from Monday, September 22, 2008 10:27:39 PM)| | | Soylentgreen4u wrote: | | "AUTONOMONS"????...WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BE A CAR?.......
| | | Head banger wrote: | | | narow minded people who want everyone to be autonomons, all thinking and doing the same thing. |
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:34:06 AM | |
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mindless folowers is the context I was going for. but, if the transformers franchise needs a name for the next movie, please send cheque for usage rights.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Where AmI from Monday, September 22, 2008 10:49:34 PM) |
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| [Head banger] Monday, September 22, 2008 10:30:40 PM | |
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yeah, I was too lazy to spellcheck it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u from Monday, September 22, 2008 10:27:39 PM)| | | Soylentgreen4u wrote: | | "AUTONOMONS"????...WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BE A CAR?.......
| | | Head banger wrote: | | | narow minded people who want everyone to be autonomons, all thinking and doing the same thing. |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Monday, September 22, 2008 10:27:39 PM | |
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"AUTONOMONS"????...WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO BE A CAR?.......
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Monday, September 22, 2008 10:20:22 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | | narow minded people who want everyone to be autonomons, all thinking and doing the same thing. |
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| [Head banger] Monday, September 22, 2008 10:20:22 PM | |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, September 22, 2008 7:49:38 PM | |
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Okay then.. LMAO Yes those people do have tend to have the personality of a ball of lint.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u from Monday, September 22, 2008 7:43:58 PM)| | | Soylentgreen4u wrote: | | | STUPID...DUMBASS...LAME...IGNORANT...ALL THE WIT,CHARM AND PERSONALITY OF A BOILED POTATO...LOW SELF ESTEEM...JACKASSES... WHO HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANIMALS OR OTHER PEOPLES FEELINGS. (ACTUALLY THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY PISS ME OFF,BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WASTING A GENUINE EMOTION ON THEM. I JUST FELT LIKE SAYING IT) |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Monday, September 22, 2008 7:43:58 PM | |
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| STUPID...DUMBASS...LAME...IGNORANT...ALL THE WIT,CHARM AND PERSONALITY OF A BOILED POTATO...LOW SELF ESTEEM...JACKASSES... WHO HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANIMALS OR OTHER PEOPLES FEELINGS. (ACTUALLY THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE DON'T REALLY PISS ME OFF,BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WASTING A GENUINE EMOTION ON THEM. I JUST FELT LIKE SAYING IT) |
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| [METAL MELTDOWN] Monday, September 22, 2008 3:56:08 PM | |
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Hows this for redneck....I actually have a Larry the Cable Guy tee shirt that I purchased from Wal-Mart!!!! GIT ER DONE!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:07:03 PM) |
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| [Vaillant 3.0] Monday, September 22, 2008 2:47:59 PM | |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, September 20, 2008 10:28:20 PM | |
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| YEAH....AC/DC hits Detroit but NOWHERE in the "heartland!!!"! DAMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNN!!!!! |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:07:03 PM | |
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LMAO Meltdown.....
 Now go get eeerrrrr Done!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by METAL MELTDOWN from Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:23:22 PM)| | | METAL MELTDOWN wrote: | | The stupid town board just approved zoning for a Wally world that will be going in 1/4 mile from my house!! I already felt redneck enough!!!!
| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Okay there are to many Wal-marts in the world.... LMAo
Everytime I go to one, dosent matter where.. its a fricken nightmare..
Today..
1. I get there had to pee of course.. must have been the anxiety of just going there.. Some lady was changing a shity diaper on the diaper bar in the bathroom.. only prob was. she dropped the diaper.. and shit went all over the floor smelled great!!!!
2. then I get in line I have a guy infront me, with a heaping shopping cart.. I thought this going to take forever..
Boy was I right.. He had 12 seperate envelopes.. and paid for different thing in his cart seperatly, with the money from the various envelopes.. every time.. I could just shit!!!!!!!! Oh wait that I allready experianced.. LMAO
3. Then I get out to my car and discover they forgot a bag.. I looked back at the store and thought OMG.. I have to go back in...lol THis is gonna suck...LOL.. I went back in and got my bag, and on my way out some guy set off the security alarm.. we all had to back up through the out door, and they had to check everyones bag..
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The stupid town board just approved zoning for a Wally world that will be going in 1/4 mile from my house!! I already felt redneck enough!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by MEDALGODDESS from Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:55:12 PM)| | | MEDALGODDESS wrote: | | Okay there are to many Wal-marts in the world.... LMAo
Everytime I go to one, dosent matter where.. its a fricken nightmare..
Today..
1. I get there had to pee of course.. must have been the anxiety of just going there.. Some lady was changing a shity diaper on the diaper bar in the bathroom.. only prob was. she dropped the diaper.. and shit went all over the floor smelled great!!!!
2. then I get in line I have a guy infront me, with a heaping shopping cart.. I thought this going to take forever..
Boy was I right.. He had 12 seperate envelopes.. and paid for different thing in his cart seperatly, with the money from the various envelopes.. every time.. I could just shit!!!!!!!! Oh wait that I allready experianced.. LMAO
3. Then I get out to my car and discover they forgot a bag.. I looked back at the store and thought OMG.. I have to go back in...lol THis is gonna suck...LOL.. I went back in and got my bag, and on my way out some guy set off the security alarm.. we all had to back up through the out door, and they had to check everyones bag..
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:55:12 PM | |
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Okay there are to many Wal-marts in the world.... LMAo
Everytime I go to one, dosent matter where.. its a fricken nightmare..
Today..
1. I get there had to pee of course.. must have been the anxiety of just going there.. Some lady was changing a shity diaper on the diaper bar in the bathroom.. only prob was. she dropped the diaper.. and shit went all over the floor smelled great!!!!
2. then I get in line I have a guy infront me, with a heaping shopping cart.. I thought this going to take forever..
Boy was I right.. He had 12 seperate envelopes.. and paid for different thing in his cart seperatly, with the money from the various envelopes.. every time.. I could just shit!!!!!!!! Oh wait that I allready experianced.. LMAO
3. Then I get out to my car and discover they forgot a bag.. I looked back at the store and thought OMG.. I have to go back in...lol THis is gonna suck...LOL.. I went back in and got my bag, and on my way out some guy set off the security alarm.. we all had to back up through the out door, and they had to check everyones bag..
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| [Head banger] Monday, September 15, 2008 10:16:50 PM | |
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perhaps an oil based lubricant would be more in keeping with the industry screwing you?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by kit kat from Monday, September 15, 2008 8:33:34 AM)| | | kit kat wrote: | | Oil rigs weren't harmed after the hurricane Ike,,,,Why I am I still paying $4.09 a gallon of gas????????????
I wished that they would use K-Y Jelly when they screw me in the ass! It's really starting to hurt!!!!!!
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| [jimmyjames] Monday, September 15, 2008 6:15:10 PM | |
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| Whats the prob? petrols $2 a litre in NZ, everyones bitchin about it but the same assholes have no problem spending $3 on a 500ml bottle of water. |
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| [brian dawe] Monday, September 15, 2008 6:02:02 PM | |
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| $1.50 per litre of unleaded petrol in australia and going up... though look at it this way imagine if the world ran on fucking printer ink - the most expensive fluid in the world - designer after shave is less expensive - that's why to impress a female just cover yourself in ink - now that's classy !!!! |
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| [~ MG_Metalgoddess~] Monday, September 15, 2008 11:42:59 AM | |
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LMAO... This gasoline shit is a bunch of B.s. I totally agree with you..
Kit Kat.. KK told me that in England he was paying 11.00 a gallon, before he left.. I wonder what it is now.. Geesuz
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by kit kat from Monday, September 15, 2008 8:33:34 AM)| | | kit kat wrote: | | Oil rigs weren't harmed after the hurricane Ike,,,,Why I am I still paying $4.09 a gallon of gas????????????
I wished that they would use K-Y Jelly when they screw me in the ass! It's really starting to hurt!!!!!!
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