| [Budred] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:44:24 AM | |
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J.D., I couldn't agree more with your first sentence. It appears that you're more open minded than you let on sometimes.
Cool!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:18:27 AM)| |  | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:18:27 AM | |
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lol! Thanks pedro68,these are mearly just my opinions so I know that there is no right answer when we talk about songs,there can be 99% of a group of people who hate a song but since there is one person that likes that song,saying that song sucks is not true. I wish it wasn't like this lol!! Saxon are working on an album now as I've heard so it will be out in 2011 sometime for sure.
I sure think that the 2nd half of Saxons Career is much better than the first half by far but there is always old school fans that will say that Wheels Of Steel(1980),Strong Arm Of The Law(1981) and Denim & Leather(1981 the same year) are thier best 3 albums,and again theres no right or wrong answer to this but I will always say no way,Lionheart(2005) is thier best album then The Inner Sanctum(2007)and Metalhead (1999)are thier 3 best for me.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pedro68 from Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM)
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| Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol . |
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| [pedro68] Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:17:46 AM | |
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| Good work J.D - you should review albums for a job lol . |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Monday, September 13, 2010 1:13:12 PM | |
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Yeah,they killed themselves by thier 6th studio album is what happened. The band had an ok sound and song writting from albums 1979 'Saxon" till 1983 "Power & The Glory" but thier image spanked of poor design it was terrible,however they were and still are both a heavy metal and a rock band,so beings they had "rock" mixed with traditional heavy metal thier image didn't need to be 100% heavy metal but what they were wearing at that time spanked of ugly and it was "cheesey".
But the music on the first 5 albums were good,then they put out 1984's "Crusader" album,the song "Crusader" is a classic british heavy metal song and its a jewel but the album is god awful,the Crusader song is the only worthy track on the album,and along with it came the "hair glam" image and then they did 3 more albums like this, 1985 "Innocense Is No Excuse",then 1986 "Rock The Nations" then 1988 "Destiny",so from 1984 to 1989 they were a washed up pretty boy glam band that was very "weak.
Biff said they were burned out and were cashing in on the American market at that time wich now he fully regrets doing. I remember Saxon through this back then and they sucked,sure thier first 5 studio albums were cool but the next 4 albums just killed them,not that they were as popular as Priest,Maiden or Motorhead in the first place cause they weren't,but it really killed the band. It wasn't till 1990 "Solid Ball Of Rock" and 1992 "Forever Free" albums that kick started Saxon's career again but those 2 albums only were half good,both of them had half an albums worth of lame hair band era songs on them,but it was a start. Then they put out Dogs Of War 1995 and that album has 8 out of 10 songs that are great british heavy metal/rock.
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I wasn't actually around at the time so I can't be sure of this, but in the late 80s when contemporaries like Maiden and Def Lep were consolidating their fanbases, Saxon released a couple of truly terrible albums, and kind of dropped off the radar in the UK. They were actually pretty popular before that. They did tour the States because I've read an old review of them- I think it was '83, L.A, Metallica were the support.. neither band got reviewed well however. I don't know how the American public received them- J.D. probably knows.
One place they do seem to be very popular is Germany- They quite often headline festivals there.
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Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
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| [K2M] Monday, September 13, 2010 11:14:31 AM | |
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SAXON, Crusader, Armored Saint was the opener. Crusader 1984
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pedro68 from Monday, September 13, 2010 4:14:50 AM)| | | pedro68 wrote: | | Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
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I wasn't actually around at the time so I can't be sure of this, but in the late 80s when contemporaries like Maiden and Def Lep were consolidating their fanbases, Saxon released a couple of truly terrible albums, and kind of dropped off the radar in the UK. They were actually pretty popular before that. They did tour the States because I've read an old review of them- I think it was '83, L.A, Metallica were the support.. neither band got reviewed well however. I don't know how the American public received them- J.D. probably knows.
One place they do seem to be very popular is Germany- They quite often headline festivals there.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pedro68 from Monday, September 13, 2010 4:14:50 AM)| | | pedro68 wrote: | | Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
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| [pedro68] Monday, September 13, 2010 4:14:50 AM | |
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Sorry J.D ,best i open my eyes when i'm posting lol.
Now back to saxon with both eyes open ha ha.
It is sad that saxon didnt get the recognition that other UK bands of the the day did.
They had the singles and the fan base ,maybe their image was'nt up to par ?
I cant remember Saxon touring the U.S in the 80's,and if they did - did they suit the U.S market
On a positive note - its just good to know their still with us and playing better than ever, cheers
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:20:13 PM | |
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I'm not "Painkiller" pedro68 (lol). And yes,on the 1988 Destiny album I forgot,they covered a Christopher Cross track "Ride Like The Wind" and its utterly terrible and "embarrassing". Even Biff regrets doing it,and the Destiny album too haha!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pedro68 from Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:27:40 AM)| | | pedro68 wrote: | | Thanks Painkiller I didnt know they coverd that song thats interesting.I seem to recall maybe they did a song called Ride like the wind by Christopher Cross.
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| [pedro68] Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:27:40 AM | |
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Thanks Painkiller I didnt know they coverd that song thats interesting.I seem to recall maybe they did a song called Ride like the wind by Christopher Cross.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:06:27 PM | |
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LOL jimmy!!! Yeah the song isn't anything to write home about to begin with ya know,but yeah Saxon did a cover song of it "Set Me Free" in 1984 from the crappy "Crusader" album,so I burned it onto a disc and got rid of the CD because that was the only other worthy track on the album besides the song "Crusader" and then years later when I met my girlfriend she saw that Saxon covered it,so she busts out a copy of the same track on Vince Neil's solo album and it totally killed it for me,not that I played that song very much anyway but it wasn't bad and then boom,she laughed her ass off and I've not listened to it since haha!! Fuckin squeaky Vince jimmy I'll tell ya lol!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by jimmyjames from Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:26:08 PM)| | | jimmyjames wrote: | | Squeaky Vince strikes again.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think your thinking of the "Set Me Free" track off the Crusader LP(terrible album),a band called "Sweet" originally did this song. It didn't used to bother me until I met my girlfriend 3 and a half years ago when she saw that Saxon covered this song,she pulled out a 1996(I think?)version of the song done by "Vince Neil's band" YUK!! HAHAHA!!!! Now,I can't listen to the track without her reminding me of Vince singing it hahaha!!!!
| | | pedro68 wrote: | | Thanks Painkiller ,Frozen Rainbow still rocks.That brought back some memories.
I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
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| [jimmyjames] Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:26:08 PM | |
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Squeaky Vince strikes again.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:18:10 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | I think your thinking of the "Set Me Free" track off the Crusader LP(terrible album),a band called "Sweet" originally did this song. It didn't used to bother me until I met my girlfriend 3 and a half years ago when she saw that Saxon covered this song,she pulled out a 1996(I think?)version of the song done by "Vince Neil's band" YUK!! HAHAHA!!!! Now,I can't listen to the track without her reminding me of Vince singing it hahaha!!!!
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I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
can you remember what song it was ? cheers |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:18:10 PM | |
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I think your thinking of the "Set Me Free" track off the Crusader LP(terrible album),a band called "Sweet" originally did this song. It didn't used to bother me until I met my girlfriend 3 and a half years ago when she saw that Saxon covered this song,she pulled out a 1996(I think?)version of the song done by "Vince Neil's band" YUK!! HAHAHA!!!! Now,I can't listen to the track without her reminding me of Vince singing it hahaha!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pedro68 from Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:05:11 AM)| | | pedro68 wrote: | | Thanks Painkiller ,Frozen Rainbow still rocks.That brought back some memories.
I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
can you remember what song it was ? cheers |
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| [pedro68] Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:05:11 AM | |
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Thanks Painkiller ,Frozen Rainbow still rocks.That brought back some memories.
I also remember they did a cover of a top 40 song early days and their version was popular with their fans.
can you remember what song it was ? cheers |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 3:29:39 PM | |
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Oh yeah man,Searching For Atlantis what a killer song this is.The entire album of Lionheart is totally magical and majestic,its a kick ass British Heavy Metal/rock album traditional all the way.This album is "better" than Powerslave by Iron Maiden and I'd go as far as saying that its up there with albums like Screaming For Vengeance,Defenders Of The Faith,Painkiller,The Number Of The Beast,Mob Rules,ect... its an instant classic,every metalhead who likes Saxon should have this LP in thier collection,a definate "must have".
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Friday, September 10, 2010 3:03:02 PM | |
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Great track Painkiller87,yeah Saxon's debut album may not be as good as modern day Saxon but out of 8 songs on the album I like 6:
Rainbow Theme
Frozen Rainbow
Judgement Day
Stallions Of The Highway
Backs To The Wall
Militia Guard
I never really cared for "Big Teaser" or "Still Fit To Boggie" but yes,a great debut album from the British legends.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Painkiller87 from Friday, September 10, 2010 8:07:20 AM)| | | Painkiller87 wrote: | | Yes that's off their first album "Saxon". A great opener for their career and album.
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strong arm of the law,strangers in the night,denim and leather all big songs in their day.
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| [Painkiller87] Friday, September 10, 2010 8:07:20 AM | |
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Yes that's off their first album "Saxon". A great opener for their career and album.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by pedro68 from Friday, September 10, 2010 2:31:40 AM)| | | pedro68 wrote: | | Oh yes Saxon would grace my turn table in the 80's, and then out came the guitar to copy some riffs.
strong arm of the law,strangers in the night,denim and leather all big songs in their day.
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| [pedro68] Friday, September 10, 2010 2:31:40 AM | |
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Oh yes Saxon would grace my turn table in the 80's, and then out came the guitar to copy some riffs.
strong arm of the law,strangers in the night,denim and leather all big songs in their day.
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| [kiamat] Friday, September 10, 2010 1:19:37 AM | |
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Is the new album confirmed then?! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:21:19 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Great Classics Painkiller87!!! Saxon has 12 studio albums that are totally worthy classic british heavy metal/rock albums:
Saxon
Wheels Of Steel
Strong Arm Of The Law
Denim & Leather
Power & The Glory
Dogs Of War
Unleash The Beast
Metalhead
Killing Ground
Lionheart
The Inner Sanctum
Into The Labyrinth
And soon to add a 13th classic traditional british heavy metal/rock studio album in 2011 !!!!
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:21:19 PM | |
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Great Classics Painkiller87!!! Saxon has 12 studio albums that are totally worthy classic british heavy metal/rock albums:
Saxon
Wheels Of Steel
Strong Arm Of The Law
Denim & Leather
Power & The Glory
Dogs Of War
Unleash The Beast
Metalhead
Killing Ground
Lionheart
The Inner Sanctum
Into The Labyrinth
And soon to add a 13th classic traditional british heavy metal/rock studio album in 2011 !!!!
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