| [Scott Gavin] Friday, June 27, 2008 6:59:55 PM | |
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| Having now listened to Nostrodamus several times, the second disc the most, I'd have to say I absolutely love it. My wife who normally tells me to turn it down or off wants a copy for her car. Even my kids like it. Honestly if this album had come out in the early 80's it probably would have sold millions of copies. I understand how people may be bored/irritated by the twiddly interludes, WASP's Crimson Idol always bugged me for the same reason. But to me this album is different, it isn't the album you put on to rock out [ although in places you can] but we put it on last night to kick back and have a few drinks [ just as KK predicted we should], and ended up listening to and talking about it for six hours. Alone, as others have said, is a standout track. I do miss the high pitched scream, but the one on Nostrodamus the song, more than makes up for it. Its great, only time will tell if it becomes my favourite Priest album [ Its impossible to choose as they all have their own merits], but I'm delighted that the band stepped outside the square to make it. |
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| [.] Friday, June 27, 2008 5:17:49 PM | |
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(whispers:)
Apocalyptica
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| [Skybreaker] Friday, June 27, 2008 3:14:34 PM | |
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| Can't believe I'm sitting here reading about the possibility of Judas Priest with an orchertra...opera! Man, it just doesn't work for me. After this CD they really need to go back to the basics that got them this far. I think I heard KK say in an interview about the possibility of a second part to Nostradamus. I hope not. Who knows, Painkiller may have been the last really great Priest album with Rob Halford. Thats 18 years since we got something really great from this band. Way too long in my opinion. I really don't think you should have to listen to something 10 times or on a perfect sound system or with headphones before you start to like it. You shouldn't have to go in and edit out certian tracks to try and come up with something you like. I think that shows how off base this new CD is. Yes they tried somethig different,but that doesn't make this CD good. Like I said before, they need to go back to what made them great. Painkiller, Screaming for Vengeance, Stained Class, British Steel type metal. |
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| [Brent Robinson] Friday, June 27, 2008 5:57:16 AM | |
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The Montreal date is August 12th at the Bell Centre with Voivod opening. The MASTERS OF METAL is the following night in T.O. - it's just Priest coming. Tix go on sale this Saturday (June 28th) at Noon. Why this isn't up on the tour info is a good question LOL!
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| [spapad] Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:03:31 PM | |
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Well Said Brent
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brent 27744 from Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:06:53 PM)| |  | Brent 27744 wrote: | | It's funny...a lot of people are complaining about the slow and mid-tempo songs, but those are my favorites. For example, the song "Nostradamus" doesn't do much for me, but I love "Alone" and "War."
Also, some people have complained about "boring, unnecessary" acoustics and keyboards. LOL, I actually like them!
Just goes to show you how music is in the ear of the beholder. |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:29:21 PM | |
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HELLO FELLOW CANUCK...WHERE DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE MONTREAL DATE?...I DON'T SEE IT ANYWHERE ON THE SITE...UNLESS I MISSED IT. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Brent Robinson from Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:01:17 PM)| | | Brent Robinson wrote: | | I like what you have to say Healer - for me, this disc is a throwback to the "Sad Wings" and "Sin After Sin" days with the mid tempo/acoustic tracks.
I, for one, have been looking forward to Priest -as a band, not just Glenn and K.K.- getting back in touch with this side of their songwriting. Dreamer Deceiver, Before the Dawn, Here Come The Tears etc. have been some of my faves over the years and much of Nostradamus touches on that. Shadows In The Flame and Peace are beautiful intros. I think that over time this disc will grow on the skeptical. There is much to digest here, but I love this disc more and more with each listen. They just announced the Montreal date, so that saves my trip down the 401 to Toronto. YES!
Give it more of a chance - maybe the next listen will be the one that wins you over.
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| [Brent 27744] Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:06:53 PM | |
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It's funny...a lot of people are complaining about the slow and mid-tempo songs, but those are my favorites. For example, the song "Nostradamus" doesn't do much for me, but I love "Alone" and "War."
Also, some people have complained about "boring, unnecessary" acoustics and keyboards. LOL, I actually like them!
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| [Brent Robinson] Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:01:17 PM | |
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I like what you have to say Healer - for me, this disc is a throwback to the "Sad Wings" and "Sin After Sin" days with the mid tempo/acoustic tracks.
I, for one, have been looking forward to Priest -as a band, not just Glenn and K.K.- getting back in touch with this side of their songwriting. Dreamer Deceiver, Before the Dawn, Here Come The Tears etc. have been some of my faves over the years and much of Nostradamus touches on that. Shadows In The Flame and Peace are beautiful intros. I think that over time this disc will grow on the skeptical. There is much to digest here, but I love this disc more and more with each listen. They just announced the Montreal date, so that saves my trip down the 401 to Toronto. YES!
Give it more of a chance - maybe the next listen will be the one that wins you over.
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:07:00 PM | |
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NAH...THE BIG SMOKE...SUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:52:03 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | pigdog? isnt toronto hogtown?
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | NO CHANCE WESTERN TAR SAND-SMELLY ALBERTAN CANADIAN PIGDOG ...WE EASTERN CANADIAN FELLOWS ARE TOO CLEVER FOR YOU!!!!  ...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | If I knew how to whine, I would be in Ontario!!!!
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | JEALOUSY WILL GET YOU NOWHERE .....JUST GET OVER THE FACT WE WON'T LET YOU IN ONTARIO...STOP WISHING,STOP WHINING IT AINT HAPPNIN'....
| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, you are from canada.....
hey wait a minute!
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | GUESS THAT MAKES ME A DUMBASS TOO...BEING THIS IS A JUDAS PRIEST SITE,I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DONE,DO,OR WILL DO(ESPECIALLY AT THE CONCERT)A LITTLE HEADBANGING......
ALTHOUGH I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEADBANGED ALL MY BRAINCELLS AWAY TO REALIZE THAT IS A RUDE THING TO SAY TO MY FRIEND!  HE DIDN'T ATTACK YOU,HE SIMPLY STATED HIS THOUGHTS ON THE ALBUM...WHICH,FOR THE RECORD I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH..
SOOOO AGAIN I GUESS I'M A DUMBASS TOO!....WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO....HEY HELLRIDER,
WE'RE A COUPLE OF DUMBASSES!!!!!  .....
| | | ZaNMaTo wrote: | | Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Head banger] Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:52:03 PM | |
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pigdog? isnt toronto hogtown?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by soylentgreen4u from Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:36:50 PM)| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | NO CHANCE WESTERN TAR SAND-SMELLY ALBERTAN CANADIAN PIGDOG ...WE EASTERN CANADIAN FELLOWS ARE TOO CLEVER FOR YOU!!!! ...
| | | Head banger wrote: | | If I knew how to whine, I would be in Ontario!!!!
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | JEALOUSY WILL GET YOU NOWHERE .....JUST GET OVER THE FACT WE WON'T LET YOU IN ONTARIO...STOP WISHING,STOP WHINING IT AINT HAPPNIN'....
| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, you are from canada.....
hey wait a minute!
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | GUESS THAT MAKES ME A DUMBASS TOO...BEING THIS IS A JUDAS PRIEST SITE,I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DONE,DO,OR WILL DO(ESPECIALLY AT THE CONCERT)A LITTLE HEADBANGING......
ALTHOUGH I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEADBANGED ALL MY BRAINCELLS AWAY TO REALIZE THAT IS A RUDE THING TO SAY TO MY FRIEND! HE DIDN'T ATTACK YOU,HE SIMPLY STATED HIS THOUGHTS ON THE ALBUM...WHICH,FOR THE RECORD I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH..
SOOOO AGAIN I GUESS I'M A DUMBASS TOO!....WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO....HEY HELLRIDER,
WE'RE A COUPLE OF DUMBASSES!!!!! .....
| | | ZaNMaTo wrote: | | Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:36:50 PM | |
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NO CHANCE WESTERN TAR SAND-SMELLY ALBERTAN CANADIAN PIGDOG ...WE EASTERN CANADIAN FELLOWS ARE TOO CLEVER FOR YOU!!!! ...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:08:50 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | If I knew how to whine, I would be in Ontario!!!!
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | JEALOUSY WILL GET YOU NOWHERE .....JUST GET OVER THE FACT WE WON'T LET YOU IN ONTARIO...STOP WISHING,STOP WHINING IT AINT HAPPNIN'....
| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, you are from canada.....
hey wait a minute!
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | GUESS THAT MAKES ME A DUMBASS TOO...BEING THIS IS A JUDAS PRIEST SITE,I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DONE,DO,OR WILL DO(ESPECIALLY AT THE CONCERT)A LITTLE HEADBANGING......
ALTHOUGH I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEADBANGED ALL MY BRAINCELLS AWAY TO REALIZE THAT IS A RUDE THING TO SAY TO MY FRIEND! HE DIDN'T ATTACK YOU,HE SIMPLY STATED HIS THOUGHTS ON THE ALBUM...WHICH,FOR THE RECORD I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH..
SOOOO AGAIN I GUESS I'M A DUMBASS TOO!....WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO....HEY HELLRIDER,
WE'RE A COUPLE OF DUMBASSES!!!!! .....
| | | ZaNMaTo wrote: | | Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Head banger] Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:08:50 PM | |
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If I knew how to whine, I would be in Ontario!!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by soylentgreen4u from Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:35:24 PM)| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | JEALOUSY WILL GET YOU NOWHERE .....JUST GET OVER THE FACT WE WON'T LET YOU IN ONTARIO...STOP WISHING,STOP WHINING IT AINT HAPPNIN'....
| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, you are from canada.....
hey wait a minute!
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | GUESS THAT MAKES ME A DUMBASS TOO...BEING THIS IS A JUDAS PRIEST SITE,I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DONE,DO,OR WILL DO(ESPECIALLY AT THE CONCERT)A LITTLE HEADBANGING......
ALTHOUGH I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEADBANGED ALL MY BRAINCELLS AWAY TO REALIZE THAT IS A RUDE THING TO SAY TO MY FRIEND! HE DIDN'T ATTACK YOU,HE SIMPLY STATED HIS THOUGHTS ON THE ALBUM...WHICH,FOR THE RECORD I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH..
SOOOO AGAIN I GUESS I'M A DUMBASS TOO!....WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO....HEY HELLRIDER,
WE'RE A COUPLE OF DUMBASSES!!!!! .....
| | | ZaNMaTo wrote: | | Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:35:24 PM | |
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JEALOUSY WILL GET YOU NOWHERE .....JUST GET OVER THE FACT WE WON'T LET YOU IN ONTARIO...STOP WISHING,STOP WHINING IT AINT HAPPNIN'....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:13:11 PM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | well, you are from canada.....
hey wait a minute!
| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | GUESS THAT MAKES ME A DUMBASS TOO...BEING THIS IS A JUDAS PRIEST SITE,I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DONE,DO,OR WILL DO(ESPECIALLY AT THE CONCERT)A LITTLE HEADBANGING......
ALTHOUGH I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEADBANGED ALL MY BRAINCELLS AWAY TO REALIZE THAT IS A RUDE THING TO SAY TO MY FRIEND! HE DIDN'T ATTACK YOU,HE SIMPLY STATED HIS THOUGHTS ON THE ALBUM...WHICH,FOR THE RECORD I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH..
SOOOO AGAIN I GUESS I'M A DUMBASS TOO!....WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO....HEY HELLRIDER,
WE'RE A COUPLE OF DUMBASSES!!!!! .....
| | | ZaNMaTo wrote: | | Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Head banger] Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:13:11 PM | |
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well, you are from canada.....
hey wait a minute!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by soylentgreen4u from Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:02:57 PM)| | | soylentgreen4u wrote: | | GUESS THAT MAKES ME A DUMBASS TOO...BEING THIS IS A JUDAS PRIEST SITE,I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DONE,DO,OR WILL DO(ESPECIALLY AT THE CONCERT)A LITTLE HEADBANGING......
ALTHOUGH I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEADBANGED ALL MY BRAINCELLS AWAY TO REALIZE THAT IS A RUDE THING TO SAY TO MY FRIEND! HE DIDN'T ATTACK YOU,HE SIMPLY STATED HIS THOUGHTS ON THE ALBUM...WHICH,FOR THE RECORD I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH..
SOOOO AGAIN I GUESS I'M A DUMBASS TOO!....WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO....HEY HELLRIDER,
WE'RE A COUPLE OF DUMBASSES!!!!! .....
| | | ZaNMaTo wrote: | | Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:02:57 PM | |
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GUESS THAT MAKES ME A DUMBASS TOO...BEING THIS IS A JUDAS PRIEST SITE,I'M SURE WE'VE ALL DONE,DO,OR WILL DO(ESPECIALLY AT THE CONCERT)A LITTLE HEADBANGING......
ALTHOUGH I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEADBANGED ALL MY BRAINCELLS AWAY TO REALIZE THAT IS A RUDE THING TO SAY TO MY FRIEND! HE DIDN'T ATTACK YOU,HE SIMPLY STATED HIS THOUGHTS ON THE ALBUM...WHICH,FOR THE RECORD I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH..
SOOOO AGAIN I GUESS I'M A DUMBASS TOO!....WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO....HEY HELLRIDER,
WE'RE A COUPLE OF DUMBASSES!!!!! .....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ZaNMaTo from Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:03:58 PM)| | | ZaNMaTo wrote: | | Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Billy Bob Sling Blade Thornton] Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:28:04 PM | |
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Easy there ToMaTo or you might get thumped off this site.
He's just stating his opinion. 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by ZaNMaTo from Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:03:58 PM)| | | ZaNMaTo wrote: | | Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [ZaNMaTo] Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:03:58 PM | |
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Pretty obvious your dumbass wasn't gonna like it. Probably headbanged all your braincells away. Looks like you didn't get your "hardcore in your face screaming heavy metal", and I for one am glad.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:03:02 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Melting Iron] Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:46:41 AM | |
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| [hellrider 31038] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:03:02 PM | |
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some of the material in my opinion is to slow AND WAAAAYYYYYY TO SOFT .there are some great tracks on the album though.just my opinion.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Metal Jesus from Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:41:57 PM)| | | Metal Jesus wrote: | | This is the only complaint that people can come up with:
It's too Slow.
That is complete bullshit, these people were expecting "Nostradamus: Featuring Painkiller". That's the stupidest mistake anyone could ever make. If you actually listen to the bands catelogie, I'm gonna say over HALF of it is slower mellow tunes believe it or not. So it's extremely hypocritcal to say this is too slow when that much of there previous work is slow too. It's ridiculous.
You ALL knew this was not going to be a fast Cd, you ALL knew it was going to be totally different from anything else, but your still shocked to find out that it's totally different from anything else. Take it for what it is and stop comparing it to Painkiller. Just enjoy the music, listen to it! Don't sit there thinking "...... this is slow.... I wanna listen to Painkiller!". That's stupid. Amazing album, but this is not that.
Just take the album for what it is, and stop comparing it to other songs. THAT is why some people hate it. They just want Excited, Freehwheel Burning and Painkiller again. |
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| [Eternal Betrayer] Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:39:07 AM | |
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THE ANSWER - for all those still scratching their heads over the latest offering from JP is, I think, perhaps one caused by the pacing on the album.
It is, after all, very very long, with some considerable mid-paced / ballad-y numbers. My advice is to edit it down to a slimmer, meaner & faster 80mins (single disc) version.
Select the following running order on to a CDR, or ipod playlist etc, and hear a much more familiar, agressive & traditional metal-esq sounding release.
1. Dawn of creation
2. Prophecy
3. Awakening
4. Revelations
5. Sands of Time
6. Pestilence & plague
7. Death
8. Peace
9. Conquest
10. Persecution
11. Alone
12. Shadows in the flame
13. Visions
14. Calm before the storm
15. Nostradamus
16. Future of mankind
Now, I know there will be many out there screaming (for vengeance) that this is sacriledge & not how the album is intended to be listened to, but, then they are already the converted, and what we are trying to do here is get as many people on board as possible. I myself, do find the whole double disc a rather flabby affair, I'm sorry to say, and do actually prefer the above edited version which I find is a far pacier & exciting listen - much more what I was hoping for.
I see it as something similar to the cinema release versions of the Lord Of The Rings films, as opposed to their much weightier Director's cut DVDs.
As for the missing tracks, well once you've grown to love the above you can re-incert them later, or visit them individually & see how they shape up having acclimatized yourself to this new world of the metal gods.
Just trying to help. |
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