| [ron h] Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:22:31 AM | |
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Chileansteel, don't let what Keyd posted bother you...it's obvious he doesn't have a clue as to what he/she is talking about. British Steel is a classic album, and it obviously still has drawing power 30 years later, as it drew you in. The albums before B Steel are just as powerful, if you haven't been able to check them out, do so!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by chileansteel from Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:41:21 PM)| |  | chileansteel wrote: | | Both albums are excellent. In the first place British Steel is a very important album in their career which includes "Breaking The Law", a metal hymn, absolute classic, one of the best tracks in the history of heavy metal. I think they were so much inspired . British Steel led me to know Judas Priest and become a fan. It just blew my mind!
Nostradamus is a wonderful album Priest are really proud of. It`s their most ambitious project to date. An album that shows their versatility and experience as musicians. They dared to do something different within the genre and most important of all they did it from their hearts.
Both albums would be great live. Priest always kick ass live, the shows are awesome, they never disappoint me. Looking forward to seeing them in Chile again!!! |
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| [Keyd [Banned]] Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:58:47 AM | |
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| [chileansteel] Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:41:21 PM | |
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Both albums are excellent. In the first place British Steel is a very important album in their career which includes "Breaking The Law", a metal hymn, absolute classic, one of the best tracks in the history of heavy metal. I think they were so much inspired . British Steel led me to know Judas Priest and become a fan. It just blew my mind!
Nostradamus is a wonderful album Priest are really proud of. It`s their most ambitious project to date. An album that shows their versatility and experience as musicians. They dared to do something different within the genre and most important of all they did it from their hearts.
Both albums would be great live. Priest always kick ass live, the shows are awesome, they never disappoint me. Looking forward to seeing them in Chile again!!! |
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| [ron h] Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:03:00 PM | |
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Keyd, I wrote Heavy Metal, not just Metal...No, Led Zep is not Heavy Metal nor is Deep Purple, nor is most of the music put out before British Steel...I'm not sure where you get that so many albums are considered Heavy Metal?!? I was 14-15 yrs. old when it came out, so I pretty much have been around since before the term Heavy Metal referred to music. Keep in mind that we are all offering opinions here, so for you to refer to us as simple idiots is petty and juvenile...1980 was a great year for Metal, alot of great releases that year, I guess it's what one's definition of Heavy Metal is...and I don't really consider any band to have defined what Heavy Metal ultimately turned out to be until Priest released Hell Bent for Leather, and then took it a step further with British Steel in '80. Sure, Motorhead was faster and Sabbath was darker and Maiden, well, they didn't release their first 'til '80...UFO, Saxon, ACDC, Aerosmith, Foghat, Thin Lizzy, Bad Company, Foreigner, Cheap Trick, Montrose...the list goes on for those late '60 - 70's band's...none of which defined Heavy Metal as we know it today but Priest!!...FYI, I love Nostradamus and I agree with your opinion of it...but that is for my home, not headbanging for 2+ hours...no way!!...doen't mean I wouldn't go see it, 'cause I would, but I would be in a different frame of mind going in!!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Keyd from Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:06:28 PM)| | | Keyd wrote: | | B.S we don't want the classics included this time. We have seen them numerous times to death already. Plus Nostradamus sounds like it was done by a different band. One that is more technically advanced and deeper in feel, experiences, & intelligence. These shallow-simple-surface "hits" you call classics would sound a bit inferior anywhere in a Nostradamus set.
Ron anyone who calls Brittish Steel the first Metal album wasn't alive in 1980 or they were over 80 in 1980. So many albums have been "labelled" the first metal album. These statements are made by simple idiots who feel the need to label things to make it easier for them to confine them to a little box. Is Led Zep the first heavy metal band? Deep Purple? cmon! Ron you may be getting too old but with Nostradamus you will have time to recover after a much faster and more intense headbang than you will get with the slow dumbed down 4/4 of Brittish Steel. Headbanging with Nostradamus or opiate nodding and lighter waving with "United".
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| [Head banger] Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:23:30 PM | |
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the clasics are not only the radio hits, like ron mentioned there are a lot of great songs on BS. sure some of it sounds dated by todays standards, its a old disc, still a good one. tons of fans love nost, some like it, and a whole shitload, myself included might go to see a nost concert, only if the opening act was someone AWESOME. if it was whitesnake, the tixs had beter be damn cheap and the concert fall on a night that my wife and kids had made plans on.
I will agree with you that lables, particularily the first of this that and the other are bull shit.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Keyd from Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:06:28 PM)| | | Keyd wrote: | | B.S we don't want the classics included this time. We have seen them numerous times to death already. Plus Nostradamus sounds like it was done by a different band. One that is more technically advanced and deeper in feel, experiences, & intelligence. These shallow-simple-surface "hits" you call classics would sound a bit inferior anywhere in a Nostradamus set.
Ron anyone who calls Brittish Steel the first Metal album wasn't alive in 1980 or they were over 80 in 1980. So many albums have been "labelled" the first metal album. These statements are made by simple idiots who feel the need to label things to make it easier for them to confine them to a little box. Is Led Zep the first heavy metal band? Deep Purple? cmon! Ron you may be getting too old but with Nostradamus you will have time to recover after a much faster and more intense headbang than you will get with the slow dumbed down 4/4 of Brittish Steel. Headbanging with Nostradamus or opiate nodding and lighter waving with "United".
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| [Keyd [Banned]] Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:06:28 PM | |
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| [ron h] Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:12:44 PM | |
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I wouldn't get too hung up on Living After Midnight, as that was one of the lighter songs as compared to Metal Gods, The Rage, Grinder, You Don't Have To Be Old To Be Wise and Steeler...Historically speaking, British Steel is often regarded as arguably the first true Heavy Metal album, front to back, ever recorded...and set the bar at the time...that is what all the hoopla is about...and I, for one, would rather go see that than the entire Nos release, even though I really like it alot, it would be difficult to party and headbang to it...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Keyd from Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:24:03 PM)| | | Keyd wrote: | | Well in 1980 I remember Ace of Spades, Heaven & Hell, Blizzard of Oz, and Iron Maiden's debut plus many, many local metal bands making Living after midnight sound like pre-teen pop which is what it was and still is. Possibly in the Deep Suburbs of Oklahoma this would sound Metal in 1980 but not for me living in the Metal Capital of the world.
The fact is it is 2009 & they want us to listen to them snooze through the (limited) motions of performing the boring brittish steel? Maybe in 1980 I could stomach it but as some of you know, it was a bit different then and so am I. They are even saying that they will play the entire album plus other "classics". No mention of Nostradamus songs. I know many people skipping this tour and many who will travel extensively to see Nostradamus played. These are people who go see good live bands of all types.
Looking at the "epic" albums mentioned, it is obvious you like pre-teen pop (including the modernly glorified and overly processed emo type) and that would explain why you would even think of defending Judas Priest's least adventerous album.
It seems that those who only listen to "metal" do not like the Nostradamus album but those who actually listen to music and who actually go see the most talented musicians play any type (and often not labelable) of music, enjoy the Nostradamus album. People who go to over 100 shows a year & who are capable of listening to a variety of time signtures and tones love the Nostradamus album. That is ok but this helps explains the "simp" adjective a littlle bit so I won't explain any further at this time. Plus those "epic bands" sound like terribly recorded elevator music with comedic vocals. Those are not good musicians and you are obviously not either, so I will excuse your misguided & sheltered ideas as an uninformed opinion. god's wind & Summoning (the poop) was fun to play for about one minute with more & better tone (not difficult) until it made me a brain dead simp. hmmm... just like Brittish Steel!
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| [british.steel] Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:46:51 PM | |
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I really like the nostrodamus album, but thts alot of songs and tht album would take up the whole setlist and then we wouldnt be able to see their other "classics".
And i still struggle to find out why so many ppl dislike Nostradamus. I mean, it was a concept album, and it was a little different, to me songs like Pestilence and Plague, and Visions, aong with the title track and more sound like classic priest, Its a good album , and for a band as successful as Priest is, o change their sound a little with every album is very ballsy.
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:29:39 PM | |
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LOL! I admit that I don't spin British Steel that often simply because I've heard it so many times as of almost all Judas Priest albums,but British Steel was and is not a "pre-teen pop album". Your probably not as old as I am,but I remember in 1980 when this album was released and brand new, "Living After Midnight" today may seem very commercial but in 1980 it was on the radio and was a more party type of song,but still heavy metal and was not a pre-teen "pop" album.You've got to remember at that time in 1980,this was still pretty "heavy".....in 1980 it was still pretty much the 1970's,so it was a very "metal" thing.
I don't want then to play the whole album of Nostradamus,and for the record I am not one of those "bitter simps that can't comprehend the great Nostradamus" as you've put it.
I listen to albums by Summoning,Lord Wind,Emperor's Equilibrium XI album,Graveland's "Immortal Pride"album...ect....so I do like "epic" albums,I just don't like the "songwritting" of "Nostradamus".
I would like the band to take a break and go into the studio and clear thier minds of "Nostradamus" and create what they create best......a true british styled heavy metal album,like "Angel Of Retribution".
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Keyd from Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:42:22 PM)| | | Keyd wrote: | | I would much more than all of the dreaded Brittish Steel album. I guess they are tired and need a break. This is definitely catering to the bitter simps that can't comprehend the great Nostradamus album. I guess they will get many more 1st timers to these shows but I don't think they will sell the amount of merchandise that Nostradamus fans would buy. I suppose it is a "special" event but who would buy or wear a Brittish Steel tour shirt/merch other than someone who has never seen Priest or is brand new to the band and hasn't been exposed to all of their more adventerous albums. A 44 minute pre-teen pop album from 1980, or an intense and recent musical masterpiece clocking in at well over 100 minutes???
Unfortunately I feel $trung along and have to wait through another filler $how before they will play their best shows from their best album, Nostradamus!
Livin after Midnight over Nostradamus??? In 2009??? I think I am going to get sick."Loaded, Loaded???" More like buzzkill, buzzkill!!! I am sure I will be in for an even less attentive and more annoying crowd than was at the Metal Masters Tour. WOW! |
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| [MARK IN THE DARK] Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:34:22 PM | |
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| KEEP IT VINTAGE PLEASE !! |
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| [HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, May 15, 2009 12:09:58 PM | |
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YES!! I love Priest. I love everything they have done and I don't care what they play as long as they keep playing and sounding awesome! I love the fact that no 2 albums sound the same and that they are always striving to do something different. To me, that shows great talent. They achieved what they set out to do with Nostradamus and it is brilliant. No, it isn't hardcore like Painkiller (which happens to be my favorite album). I think Nostradamus takes you on a journey and it's done wonderfully. They have a way of making you feel the music, not just through the lyrics but with the music itself. My only fear is that if they do the entire Nostradamus album on tour, they might go too broadway with it like Queensryche did with Operation Mindcrime II. As long as they all don't try to "act" out parts, I think it would be a fantastic show. You know they always turn it up a notch or two when they play live. |
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| [SIRENSONG] Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:33:08 PM | |
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| NO WAY DO I WANNA HEAR THE FULL NOSTRADAMUS AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER SONGS.I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING WHEN THEY WROTE IT?!IT IS A SOFT,LITE METAL RECORD,A STEP BACK ESPECIALLY CAUSE THE SONGS MAINLY ARE'NT THAT STRONG AND THE GUYS OFTEN PLAY INSTRUMENTALLY WITH NONE OF THEIR IDENTITY.THEY SOUND LIKE ANOTHER BAND LOST BEHIND A SICK PRODUCERS JOKE.I THINK TOURING WITH QUEENSRYCHE KINDA MESSED WITH THEIR THINKING?IT DEFINATELY DOES'NT HAVE AS MUCH GREAT MATERIAL AS ANGEL OF RETRIBUTION.IF THEY WANTED TO GET MORE CLASSICAL ALSO,WHY DID'NT THEY PLAY LOCH NESS ON THAT TOUR?THAT WAS VERY CLASSICAL AND ONE OF THE BEST SONGS ON THE CD. |
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| [chileansteel] Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:15:33 PM | |
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| Yes !!! definitely. And I`m willing to travel abroad if they don`t come to my country. |
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| [B Dharma] Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:38:34 PM | |
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I personally would love to hear "NOSTRADAMUS" live, either all or an abbreviated version but I welcome the new "BRITISH STEEL" tour as well.
This is going to be great and a change in the rest of the setlist has also been insinuated by JP..
So be prepared for a great tour.
BTW: We might also be in store for a few more NOSTRADAMUS tunes included in the set. I would LOVE to hear SANDS OF TIME into PESTILENCE AND PLAGUE.. Maybe ALONE will be there..
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| [Keyd [Banned]] Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:42:22 PM | |
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| [tedzo] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:14:53 PM | |
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I thought that is what originaly they were going to do on this tour.
Probably not enough die hard fans to fill the venues.
I on the other hand would be stoked to here it start-finish.
Maybe they will do it in NYC or somewhere and release the video after. |
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| [Ellieke] Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:38:49 AM | |
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Yes, absolutely
I just wanne hear them live again, doesn't matter what they sing ;) |
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| [spapad] Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:36:17 PM | |
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I hope for more, but the way the tour is going, I wont hope for more than one more. I have always got my fingers crossed though!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:33:48 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | thats a scary thought only 1 more
| | | spapad wrote: | | I'd love to see it, but like you, I am beginning to feel like they really need a break. I think they will do it, but it's going to be a one off, maybe performances and straight to DVD. Which is fine by me, while I would love to see it, they are working really hard these days! Be nice to see them take a break and give us one more studio album at least!
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | no i would not want to.i would like to see the priest use that time to relax for a couple months and start working on the next metal masterpiece. |
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