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I am making an assessment based on what i like.
JD the Eq in you signal chain is adding that desired extra crunchness.
THe BBE will do the same thing. IMO The BBE will Make your sound Sizzle. Kind of a pro mod additive.
Gives you a modernized crunch. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:11 PM)
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Oh yeah? Alright I'll check that out.Thanks K2M.
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Try the BBE sonic maximizer pedal. place it after the distrotion pedal.
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What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
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Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [guitardude] Friday, November 06, 2009 1:01:20 PM | |
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JD
That is the question of the ages!!
Here is a simple rule for what pedal in what order... process your distortion, don`t distort your processing.
The HM-2 should be first the your EQ .
EQ`s are notorious for being noisy whitenoise (hiss), if you put it in front of the HM-2 then your are distorting your noise!!
If you were to have a setup like I once had, .... this is the order you could consider
Compresser, distortion, wah pedal,eq,phaser or flanger, delay, chorus, noise gate BBE or any other type of signal enhancer.
Now that is not something that is set in stone, experiment and see what you like. That was the order of what I had when I was gigging. The wah pedal would find itself after the eq from time to time, not sure why I would change it, just did.
Also, use a regulated power supply, not the batteries. As the battery dies, then even in the off position, the pedal will affect your signal by not allowing it to pass thru properly.
Now, with that said, there are some pedals that offer a true bypass feature when off and then the bad battery shouldn`t mess with your signal.
KK and Glenn both once said that they had pedals in their boards (interview was from the 80`s) that they never used anymore, but didn`t remove them because it may affect their tone .
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:38:35 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Hey guitardude,so should I have first my boss Heavy Metal2 pedal,then a BBE and take out the GE-7 or use all 3? Id also like to get a cry baby too so would I use all 4? What should I do here,I like hearing ideas...
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Sadly, I don`t have either of my Marshalls anymore, priorities changed so they had to go. I have been in the market for something smaller for a long time now, all tubes preferably, but without breaking the bank.
K2M is right on the BBE, I had one and they make such a difference, really livens things up. I also had the GE-7 that I used to mainly boost my top end for solos.
The HM-2 you have is good, you don`t have to run it WFO, they can be used as an Overdrive . with good results.
At one point I had nearly an all Boss setup consisting of a
Compressor, EQ, Digital Delay, Chorus. I also had a Dunlop Dimebag model Crybaby, Rocktron Silver Dragon Distortion and a Hush pedal.
I still have the Silver Dragon, and I also have a Boss DS-1 that was given to me by a member of the board here. Occasionally I plug into my son`s little Fender amp and use the DS-1. Otherwise I use my newly attained Behringer V-amp 2 with headphones. I can plug in the Mp3 and wail away.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:38:09 PM | |
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All of that shit is so confusing haha.
So many different combinations of EVERYTHING. Ever little detail fucks with your tone, its insane. |
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| [SDBinNY] Thursday, November 05, 2009 7:20:12 PM | |
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Guitar~HM2~BBE~Amp.
If you are happy with your tone, put the eq in the effects loop and set it flat with a slightly higher output level for the boost. If you are using it to shape your tone, play with the set up and see where it fits best. Most likely the BBE will be at the end of the chain.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:38:35 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | Hey guitardude,so should I have first my boss Heavy Metal2 pedal,then a BBE and take out the GE-7 or use all 3? Id also like to get a cry baby too so would I use all 4? What should I do here,I like hearing ideas...
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Sadly, I don`t have either of my Marshalls anymore, priorities changed so they had to go. I have been in the market for something smaller for a long time now, all tubes preferably, but without breaking the bank.
K2M is right on the BBE, I had one and they make such a difference, really livens things up. I also had the GE-7 that I used to mainly boost my top end for solos.
The HM-2 you have is good, you don`t have to run it WFO, they can be used as an Overdrive . with good results.
At one point I had nearly an all Boss setup consisting of a
Compressor, EQ, Digital Delay, Chorus. I also had a Dunlop Dimebag model Crybaby, Rocktron Silver Dragon Distortion and a Hush pedal.
I still have the Silver Dragon, and I also have a Boss DS-1 that was given to me by a member of the board here. Occasionally I plug into my son`s little Fender amp and use the DS-1. Otherwise I use my newly attained Behringer V-amp 2 with headphones. I can plug in the Mp3 and wail away.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:38:35 PM | |
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Hey guitardude,so should I have first my boss Heavy Metal2 pedal,then a BBE and take out the GE-7 or use all 3? Id also like to get a cry baby too so would I use all 4? What should I do here,I like hearing ideas...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:28 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Sadly, I don`t have either of my Marshalls anymore, priorities changed so they had to go. I have been in the market for something smaller for a long time now, all tubes preferably, but without breaking the bank.
K2M is right on the BBE, I had one and they make such a difference, really livens things up. I also had the GE-7 that I used to mainly boost my top end for solos.
The HM-2 you have is good, you don`t have to run it WFO, they can be used as an Overdrive . with good results.
At one point I had nearly an all Boss setup consisting of a
Compressor, EQ, Digital Delay, Chorus. I also had a Dunlop Dimebag model Crybaby, Rocktron Silver Dragon Distortion and a Hush pedal.
I still have the Silver Dragon, and I also have a Boss DS-1 that was given to me by a member of the board here. Occasionally I plug into my son`s little Fender amp and use the DS-1. Otherwise I use my newly attained Behringer V-amp 2 with headphones. I can plug in the Mp3 and wail away.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [guitardude] Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:28 PM | |
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Sadly, I don`t have either of my Marshalls anymore, priorities changed so they had to go. I have been in the market for something smaller for a long time now, all tubes preferably, but without breaking the bank.
K2M is right on the BBE, I had one and they make such a difference, really livens things up. I also had the GE-7 that I used to mainly boost my top end for solos.
The HM-2 you have is good, you don`t have to run it WFO, they can be used as an Overdrive . with good results.
At one point I had nearly an all Boss setup consisting of a
Compressor, EQ, Digital Delay, Chorus. I also had a Dunlop Dimebag model Crybaby, Rocktron Silver Dragon Distortion and a Hush pedal.
I still have the Silver Dragon, and I also have a Boss DS-1 that was given to me by a member of the board here. Occasionally I plug into my son`s little Fender amp and use the DS-1. Otherwise I use my newly attained Behringer V-amp 2 with headphones. I can plug in the Mp3 and wail away.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:54:45 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:33:11 PM | |
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Oh yeah? Alright I'll check that out.Thanks K2M.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:56:59 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | Try the BBE sonic maximizer pedal. place it after the distrotion pedal.
| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [K2M] Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:56:59 PM | |
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Try the BBE sonic maximizer pedal. place it after the distrotion pedal.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by J.D. DIAMOND from Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:54:45 PM)| | | J.D. DIAMOND wrote: | | What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [J.D. DIAMOND] Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:54:45 PM | |
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What kind of pedals tdo you use with your Marshall guitardude? I have a MG 100 HDFX half stack that my roomate got for me last June and I have an old 1984 boss Heavy Metal 2 pedal and a boss equalizer GE-7 pedal that I use,this gives me an extra metalic crunch thats clear ect... what would you recomend me getting or using?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:20:08 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [guitardude] Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:20:08 PM | |
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Back when I was doing gigs, I would set the volume on my Marshall (JCM 800 2205 model)at 4 and that was plenty. Occasionally, when we played a larger venue , I would do 4.5 , but that was mainly for my own sound and being able to hear myself adequately.
The JCM 900 that I had briefly a couple of years ago, was about the same as it was a 50 watter also. That one only saw action at a friends shop building where we (old band mates from several bands would get together and play) and never needed to be cranked up much. |
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| [SDBinNY] Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:26:05 PM | |
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You say bleeding as if it is a bad thing. Keeps the bone marrow busy and healthy....lol
Actually, have never been in a situation where "10" was neccessary, but blowin the dust off the china isn't a bad thing once in a while....
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:50:20 PM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | Well there is a point where your ears literally start to bleed, that might be too loud.
| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | It's NEVER loud enough.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | nice equipmet SDbinNY .must bve nice cranking that baby up.HELL YEAH
| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Personally, I have always prefered Jensens. I "grew up" with old Fenders ( 1956 Fender Bandmaster, 1966 Fender Dual Showman, 1968 Fender 2x12 thing I can never remember the name of). I ran a Boss DF2 into the Showman with a 2x15 cab and LOVED the tone I got. The 15's were old Jensens, and my father actually made the cab.
Currently I have a Behringer head and cab, and a Crate cab. Haven't got to use them much lately, so I am certain they are feeling a little neglected..
I think people just get too caught up in labels, and it is my belief that you should get out there and find what your ears like.
| | | K2M wrote: | | I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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| [guitardude] Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:52:48 PM | |
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There is a point while playing that you can get your speakers to resonate and really breathe, that`s when your in the sweet spot and nothing sounds or feels quite like it!!! |
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| [K2M] Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:19:54 PM | |
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A good speaker cab really wakes things up.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:50:20 PM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | Well there is a point where your ears literally start to bleed, that might be too loud.
| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | It's NEVER loud enough.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | nice equipmet SDbinNY .must bve nice cranking that baby up.HELL YEAH
| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Personally, I have always prefered Jensens. I "grew up" with old Fenders ( 1956 Fender Bandmaster, 1966 Fender Dual Showman, 1968 Fender 2x12 thing I can never remember the name of). I ran a Boss DF2 into the Showman with a 2x15 cab and LOVED the tone I got. The 15's were old Jensens, and my father actually made the cab.
Currently I have a Behringer head and cab, and a Crate cab. Haven't got to use them much lately, so I am certain they are feeling a little neglected..
I think people just get too caught up in labels, and it is my belief that you should get out there and find what your ears like.
| | | K2M wrote: | | I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:50:20 PM | |
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Well there is a point where your ears literally start to bleed, that might be too loud.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:19:05 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | It's NEVER loud enough.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | nice equipmet SDbinNY .must bve nice cranking that baby up.HELL YEAH
| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Personally, I have always prefered Jensens. I "grew up" with old Fenders ( 1956 Fender Bandmaster, 1966 Fender Dual Showman, 1968 Fender 2x12 thing I can never remember the name of). I ran a Boss DF2 into the Showman with a 2x15 cab and LOVED the tone I got. The 15's were old Jensens, and my father actually made the cab.
Currently I have a Behringer head and cab, and a Crate cab. Haven't got to use them much lately, so I am certain they are feeling a little neglected..
I think people just get too caught up in labels, and it is my belief that you should get out there and find what your ears like.
| | | K2M wrote: | | I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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| [hellrider 31038] Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:22:44 PM | |
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HELL YEAH
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:19:05 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | It's NEVER loud enough.
| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | nice equipmet SDbinNY .must bve nice cranking that baby up.HELL YEAH
| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Personally, I have always prefered Jensens. I "grew up" with old Fenders ( 1956 Fender Bandmaster, 1966 Fender Dual Showman, 1968 Fender 2x12 thing I can never remember the name of). I ran a Boss DF2 into the Showman with a 2x15 cab and LOVED the tone I got. The 15's were old Jensens, and my father actually made the cab.
Currently I have a Behringer head and cab, and a Crate cab. Haven't got to use them much lately, so I am certain they are feeling a little neglected..
I think people just get too caught up in labels, and it is my belief that you should get out there and find what your ears like.
| | | K2M wrote: | | I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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| [SDBinNY] Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:19:05 PM | |
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It's NEVER loud enough.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:30:36 PM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | | nice equipmet SDbinNY .must bve nice cranking that baby up.HELL YEAH
| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Personally, I have always prefered Jensens. I "grew up" with old Fenders ( 1956 Fender Bandmaster, 1966 Fender Dual Showman, 1968 Fender 2x12 thing I can never remember the name of). I ran a Boss DF2 into the Showman with a 2x15 cab and LOVED the tone I got. The 15's were old Jensens, and my father actually made the cab.
Currently I have a Behringer head and cab, and a Crate cab. Haven't got to use them much lately, so I am certain they are feeling a little neglected..
I think people just get too caught up in labels, and it is my belief that you should get out there and find what your ears like.
| | | K2M wrote: | | I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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| [hellrider 31038] Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:30:36 PM | |
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nice equipmet SDbinNY .must bve nice cranking that baby up.HELL YEAH
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:37:12 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Personally, I have always prefered Jensens. I "grew up" with old Fenders ( 1956 Fender Bandmaster, 1966 Fender Dual Showman, 1968 Fender 2x12 thing I can never remember the name of). I ran a Boss DF2 into the Showman with a 2x15 cab and LOVED the tone I got. The 15's were old Jensens, and my father actually made the cab.
Currently I have a Behringer head and cab, and a Crate cab. Haven't got to use them much lately, so I am certain they are feeling a little neglected..
I think people just get too caught up in labels, and it is my belief that you should get out there and find what your ears like.
| | | K2M wrote: | | I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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| [guitardude] Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:54:48 PM | |
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Eminence makes a good speaker and seems to be gaining in popularity, MR. Scary uses them!!! I belive that Dimebag was using them also in the Kranks, but I`m not sure.
I replaced the Celestions in my old Marshall cabs around 1993 or 4 and used the Carvin British series speakers, there was hardly any difference between them and the Celestions.
Get out there and listen to a variety, you never know what you may like.
SDB... Jensens...yea man!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by SDBinNY from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:37:12 PM)| | | SDBinNY wrote: | | Personally, I have always prefered Jensens. I "grew up" with old Fenders ( 1956 Fender Bandmaster, 1966 Fender Dual Showman, 1968 Fender 2x12 thing I can never remember the name of). I ran a Boss DF2 into the Showman with a 2x15 cab and LOVED the tone I got. The 15's were old Jensens, and my father actually made the cab.
Currently I have a Behringer head and cab, and a Crate cab. Haven't got to use them much lately, so I am certain they are feeling a little neglected..
I think people just get too caught up in labels, and it is my belief that you should get out there and find what your ears like.
| | | K2M wrote: | | I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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Personally, I have always prefered Jensens. I "grew up" with old Fenders ( 1956 Fender Bandmaster, 1966 Fender Dual Showman, 1968 Fender 2x12 thing I can never remember the name of). I ran a Boss DF2 into the Showman with a 2x15 cab and LOVED the tone I got. The 15's were old Jensens, and my father actually made the cab.
Currently I have a Behringer head and cab, and a Crate cab. Haven't got to use them much lately, so I am certain they are feeling a little neglected..
I think people just get too caught up in labels, and it is my belief that you should get out there and find what your ears like.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:09:16 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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| [K2M] Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:09:16 PM | |
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I am using 2 Marshall 4x12's. I am using the smaller Cheaper cabs. they are loaded with celestions.
I have always used celestions i am thinking about trying something new. I have always been pleased with the celestions.
i picked up the Marshall cabs for 300 a piece. Affordable . one can change the speakers
SBD my ears could be scared from a lifetime of celestions do you have any suggestions.
I am checking out the line 6 cabs. just checking. I have three 4x12's I love them.
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:23:48 PM | |
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| [SDBinNY] Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:25:10 AM | |
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Yes, Joe, you will need a speaker cab for a head. There are many out there, so do some homework before you buy.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Monday, November 02, 2009 8:42:37 PM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | Same man, I'm extremely interested in the Spider Valve MkII. And for about 800$ thats fucking sweet, but I need a cab to go with it right? Heads don't generate sound right?
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I like Line 6.
I have been using the UX2 interface. i recommend it. FeedBack from the Comp speakers. Very sweet.
I just picked up a Spider VI , 150Watt head. i wanted a head to go with that i would not have to freak out on. as far as maintaining and destroying.
I want the Bogner. I want that Power tube section in my line six Head.
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Monday, November 02, 2009 8:42:37 PM | |
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Same man, I'm extremely interested in the Spider Valve MkII. And for about 800$ thats fucking sweet, but I need a cab to go with it right? Heads don't generate sound right?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Monday, November 02, 2009 7:05:58 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | Precisely. Hellrider. we're gonna load it with our brand.
I like Line 6.
I have been using the UX2 interface. i recommend it. FeedBack from the Comp speakers. Very sweet.
I just picked up a Spider VI , 150Watt head. i wanted a head to go with that i would not have to freak out on. as far as maintaining and destroying.
I want the Bogner. I want that Power tube section in my line six Head.
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| [K2M] Monday, November 02, 2009 7:05:58 PM | |
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Precisely. Hellrider. we're gonna load it with our brand.
I like Line 6.
I have been using the UX2 interface. i recommend it. FeedBack from the Comp speakers. Very sweet.
I just picked up a Spider VI , 150Watt head. i wanted a head to go with that i would not have to freak out on. as far as maintaining and destroying.
I want the Bogner. I want that Power tube section in my line six Head.
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| [hellrider 31038] Monday, November 02, 2009 4:39:01 PM | |
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HEVENLY HEY K2M AND ENGLISH not no made in china.lol.HELL YEAH
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Monday, November 02, 2009 12:29:30 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | | Hell Yes |
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| [K2M] Monday, November 02, 2009 12:29:30 PM | |
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| [hellrider 31038] Monday, November 02, 2009 1:18:57 AM | |
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http://www.blackrose.co.uk/index.php?br=Bracelets&f=3
hey joe check this place out man.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Monday, November 02, 2009 12:20:39 AM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | Man when are you gonna open a leather and studs store? I would seriously buy the shit you make, its insane.
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HELL YEAH MY FELLOW JUDAS PRIEST DEFENDER OF THE FAITH
JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEEETTTT TTTTAAAAALLLLLL
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| [hellrider 31038] Monday, November 02, 2009 1:06:25 AM | |
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http://studsandspikes.com/buy/stud-cone-standard-1-2-bag-of-1-000.html
great place to get studs and a few other things. check out the excellent price for 1000 cone studs makes you feel like like your
BRRREEEAAAKKKIIINNNGGG THHHHEEEEEEEE LAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Monday, November 02, 2009 12:20:39 AM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | Man when are you gonna open a leather and studs store? I would seriously buy the shit you make, its insane.
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HELL YEAH MY FELLOW JUDAS PRIEST DEFENDER OF THE FAITH
JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEEETTTT TTTTAAAAALLLLLL
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| [hellrider 31038] Monday, November 02, 2009 12:25:32 AM | |
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lol.i did not make any of that HEAVY MEEETTT TTTAAALLLL apparel in that photo but its easy to do man.just very time consuming.i would be more than willing to help you out.just let me know
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Monday, November 02, 2009 12:20:39 AM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | Man when are you gonna open a leather and studs store? I would seriously buy the shit you make, its insane.
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HELL YEAH MY FELLOW JUDAS PRIEST DEFENDER OF THE FAITH
JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEEETTTT TTTTAAAAALLLLLL
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Monday, November 02, 2009 12:20:39 AM | |
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Man when are you gonna open a leather and studs store? I would seriously buy the shit you make, its insane.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by hellrider 31038 from Monday, November 02, 2009 12:12:52 AM)| | | hellrider 31038 wrote: | |
HELL YEAH MY FELLOW JUDAS PRIEST DEFENDER OF THE FAITH
JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEEETTTT TTTTAAAAALLLLLL
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| [hellrider 31038] Monday, November 02, 2009 12:12:52 AM | |
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HELL YEAH MY FELLOW JUDAS PRIEST DEFENDER OF THE FAITH
JUDAS PRIEST HEAVY MEEEETTTT TTTTAAAAALLLLLL
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:18:04 PM) |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:56:07 PM | |
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I can play it a lot better when I don't have a camera in my face haha.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:39:55 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Nicely done Joe, keep working on it and it`ll smooth out for you!!
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| [guitardude] Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:39:55 PM | |
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Nicely done Joe, keep working on it and it`ll smooth out for you!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:18:04 PM) |
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| [guitardude] Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:36:31 PM | |
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I do know that some of the Line6amps have pedalboards(as in controllers) you can hook up to them and control your efx and your channel. I`m not sure as to which ones , other than the top of the line models Like the Vetta, now that is a kick ass amp!!!
Pedals should be fine thru the amp, if you have an efx loop, put them there, if not, run them in front of the amp. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:01:03 PM)
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One thing I don't like about Line 6 amps is all the effects. There IN the amp, therefore you gotta press the buttons. How would a effects pedal work on a Line 6 amp?
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The Bogner series of Line6 amps come with Celestion speakers, which are the most sought after speakers for guitar.
I think for around that 1500 for a half stack is a fair price for entrance into the world of tube tone.
Also check out Bugera, they are owned by Behringer and make clone amps of marshalls and Peavey`s , but they sound very good. I don`t know how their longevity will be, but might worth a look into as well when you`re ready to step up into a bigger amp.
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About 700$ more haha.
Well even so, 1500$ more or less is not half bad for that.
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This Spider Valve MKII Head is like 800$ nearly. Thats not a half bad price. I wonder how much it would cost with a cab underneath it.
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Bogner is one of the boutique amp builders and make an excellent amp, used by many top players. Worth a look .
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A Bogner amp mixed with a Line 6? I never tried a Bogner amp before....hmm.
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Hey Joe
Check out the Bogner Line 6 amps, all the features of the Line 6 you are used to with the Tone of tubes and Bogner tweaking, good stuff!!
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:18:04 PM | |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:01:03 PM | |
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One thing I don't like about Line 6 amps is all the effects. There IN the amp, therefore you gotta press the buttons. How would a effects pedal work on a Line 6 amp?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:12:01 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | The Bogner series of Line6 amps come with Celestion speakers, which are the most sought after speakers for guitar.
I think for around that 1500 for a half stack is a fair price for entrance into the world of tube tone.
Also check out Bugera, they are owned by Behringer and make clone amps of marshalls and Peavey`s , but they sound very good. I don`t know how their longevity will be, but might worth a look into as well when you`re ready to step up into a bigger amp.
| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | About 700$ more haha.
Well even so, 1500$ more or less is not half bad for that.
| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | This Spider Valve MKII Head is like 800$ nearly. Thats not a half bad price. I wonder how much it would cost with a cab underneath it.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Bogner is one of the boutique amp builders and make an excellent amp, used by many top players. Worth a look .
| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | A Bogner amp mixed with a Line 6? I never tried a Bogner amp before....hmm.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Hey Joe
Check out the Bogner Line 6 amps, all the features of the Line 6 you are used to with the Tone of tubes and Bogner tweaking, good stuff!!
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| [guitardude] Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:12:01 PM | |
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The Bogner series of Line6 amps come with Celestion speakers, which are the most sought after speakers for guitar.
I think for around that 1500 for a half stack is a fair price for entrance into the world of tube tone.
Also check out Bugera, they are owned by Behringer and make clone amps of marshalls and Peavey`s , but they sound very good. I don`t know how their longevity will be, but might worth a look into as well when you`re ready to step up into a bigger amp.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:01:35 PM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | About 700$ more haha.
Well even so, 1500$ more or less is not half bad for that.
| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | This Spider Valve MKII Head is like 800$ nearly. Thats not a half bad price. I wonder how much it would cost with a cab underneath it.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Bogner is one of the boutique amp builders and make an excellent amp, used by many top players. Worth a look .
| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | A Bogner amp mixed with a Line 6? I never tried a Bogner amp before....hmm.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Hey Joe
Check out the Bogner Line 6 amps, all the features of the Line 6 you are used to with the Tone of tubes and Bogner tweaking, good stuff!!
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:01:35 PM | |
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About 700$ more haha.
Well even so, 1500$ more or less is not half bad for that.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:55:16 PM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | This Spider Valve MKII Head is like 800$ nearly. Thats not a half bad price. I wonder how much it would cost with a cab underneath it.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Bogner is one of the boutique amp builders and make an excellent amp, used by many top players. Worth a look .
| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | A Bogner amp mixed with a Line 6? I never tried a Bogner amp before....hmm.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Hey Joe
Check out the Bogner Line 6 amps, all the features of the Line 6 you are used to with the Tone of tubes and Bogner tweaking, good stuff!!
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:55:16 PM | |
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This Spider Valve MKII Head is like 800$ nearly. Thats not a half bad price. I wonder how much it would cost with a cab underneath it.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:11:58 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Bogner is one of the boutique amp builders and make an excellent amp, used by many top players. Worth a look .
| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | A Bogner amp mixed with a Line 6? I never tried a Bogner amp before....hmm.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Hey Joe
Check out the Bogner Line 6 amps, all the features of the Line 6 you are used to with the Tone of tubes and Bogner tweaking, good stuff!!
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| [guitardude] Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:11:58 PM | |
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Bogner is one of the boutique amp builders and make an excellent amp, used by many top players. Worth a look .
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Friday, October 30, 2009 10:17:47 PM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | A Bogner amp mixed with a Line 6? I never tried a Bogner amp before....hmm.
| | | guitardude wrote: | | Hey Joe
Check out the Bogner Line 6 amps, all the features of the Line 6 you are used to with the Tone of tubes and Bogner tweaking, good stuff!!
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Friday, October 30, 2009 10:17:47 PM | |
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A Bogner amp mixed with a Line 6? I never tried a Bogner amp before....hmm.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Friday, October 30, 2009 8:07:53 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Hey Joe
Check out the Bogner Line 6 amps, all the features of the Line 6 you are used to with the Tone of tubes and Bogner tweaking, good stuff!!
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| [guitardude] Friday, October 30, 2009 8:07:53 PM | |
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Hey Joe
Check out the Bogner Line 6 amps, all the features of the Line 6 you are used to with the Tone of tubes and Bogner tweaking, good stuff!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:34:14 PM) |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:34:14 PM | |
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All I have is my JS series Jackson King V and my Line 6 Spider 3 amp.
I love Line 6 amps, I just can't get into any other brand.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:16:09 PM)
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Nice Joe!  Exactly my tone. People often ask me if I ever set the amps / pedals to anything other than "80s metal." "Why bother?" my typical response.
What equipment are you using?
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:31:31 PM | |
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No I mean I literally can't play them haha.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by K2M from Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:47:40 PM)| | | K2M wrote: | | Good choice Joe. Go for the solos.
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| [K2M] Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:47:40 PM | |
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Good choice Joe. Go for the solos.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:42:18 PM)| | | Bazooka Joe wrote: | | I'm seriously considering doing a cover of Victim of Changes.
It just makes no sense to do without the solos though. Maybe I could just shorten those bits up? |
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| [guidogodoy] Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:16:09 PM | |
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Nice Joe! Exactly my tone. People often ask me if I ever set the amps / pedals to anything other than "80s metal." "Why bother?" my typical response.
What equipment are you using?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bazooka Joe from Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:20:07 PM) |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:42:18 PM | |
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I'm seriously considering doing a cover of Victim of Changes.
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| [K2M] Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:17:48 PM | |
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| I have to check them out on my comp. at home. Cant wait. Keep it comin. |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:20:07 PM | |
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| [Bazookajoe_666] Monday, October 26, 2009 10:48:18 AM | |
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Hmm... I'm not sure anymore. Might be nearer to a year and a half. I'll have to ask Wendy, she follows dates better then I do.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guitardude from Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:53:15 PM)| | | guitardude wrote: | | Very nice Joe, didn`t you just start about a year ago?
I like it.
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