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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:58:54 PM | |
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It really depends on the drive. For example, IBM once produced a great drive called the Deskstar. Whle the majority were fine, ONE batch was a complete disaster. Got to the inevitable "click of death" (hear this click and you are pretty much done-for...it is the arm that can't spin over the platters of the medium anymore...data rescue services that charge upwards of $2000 can't even help you) in about a year or less. Actually contributed to the demise of IBM in the harddrive market. They sold that entire division off ASAP (and the Deskstar got better but IBM STILL has a class action lawsuit against them).
Not an easy question to answer, in other words. Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate (the biggies) with all the different models always release "data stats" that typically avoid that one crucial piece of information. True "failure rate" data actually comes from outside sources. For example, I have a Prius. On paper it says it gets 60 MPG. In real life, it gets far less. Industry papers vs. real life.
No set answer in other words. Give me the make and model of your drive and it STILL won't tell me the year / batch of production or even the PLACE (China drives are cheap and fail like crazy. Taiwan and Japanese are better...latter being the best). Same goes for readwrite CDs / DVDs. Sad thing is most majors often have plants in many Asian countries. A Sony DVD from Taiwan, for example, is better than one from China.
Moral of the story. BACK UP YOUR CRUCIAL DATA!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by spapad from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:45:04 PM) |
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LMAO!! Don't tell me there's a Guidopedia now! 
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by adrianaec_88 from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:51:47 PM)| |  | adrianaec_88 wrote: | | | Hi everyone, Guido, Spa, Freeze anyone else online? I'd like comment but I have now idea what you're talking about LOL, anyway good question the one Spa did? Guidopedia has the answer..... |
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| [adrianaec_88] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:51:47 PM | |
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| Hi everyone, Guido, Spa, Freeze anyone else online? I'd like comment but I have now idea what you're talking about LOL, anyway good question the one Spa did? Guidopedia has the answer..... |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:47:21 PM | |
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Kindly direct all tech problem questions to our newly created "computer problems" thread (where they will be summarily ignored! HAAAA!).
As for working on your computer, you'd laugh if you saw me now. I have three in front of me from pseudo-friends (ie. colleagues) who all need rebuilds of one type or another. I gotta learn to start charging. Then again, I have been saying THAT since I was a kid!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:20 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | So, will you come over and work on MY computer for me?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, a question; I have "Cricket" wireless. I have a little doo-dad ( high tech word) that I plug into the side of this thing and I have internet access. The little doo-dad has a switch on it. I have noticed that, whether I turn on this switch or not, I have internet. So, what the heck is it for???????????
| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
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Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
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| [spapad] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:45:04 PM | |
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Just out of curiosity,.......what would you say the average "shelf life" of a hard drive is, just so I can think about what point in time I should begin to panic. BTW, good morning/afternoon everyone.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:53 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions! |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:53 PM | |
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There is a term to describe you: tech troglodyte! LOL!!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:26:08 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions! |
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| [Deep Freeze] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:40:20 PM | |
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So, will you come over and work on MY computer for me?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, a question; I have "Cricket" wireless. I have a little doo-dad ( high tech word) that I plug into the side of this thing and I have internet access. The little doo-dad has a switch on it. I have noticed that, whether I turn on this switch or not, I have internet. So, what the heck is it for???????????
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36:13 PM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
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Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
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| [_strat_] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:38:51 PM | |
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That would be "Geek"... Not "Greek".
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Deep Freeze from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:26:08 PM)| | | Deep Freeze wrote: | | Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions! |
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:36:13 PM | |
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Of course, you'll do as you please and certainly no offense but does your son hold a degree in computer science, build computers and have 20+ years experience as a network admin / programmer?
I deal in quantifiable data that I can certainly back up with stats. Tell you what, benchmark your computer before a defrag and after. I can even tell you how to test if needed. The only time you will see even a marginal difference is when you have a completely fragmented harddrive. Even then, we are talking something like a 1-3% speed increase. Believe it or not, it is old-school thinking. A modern SATA harddrive MORE than compensates for the fragmentation.
On a similar note, NEVER defrag a USB / thumbdrive. I've seen that one before as well. Dumb idea. [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:10:49 PM)
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Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
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Talapia? new word to me..where from?
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Well guido, apart from the words "improvement" and "machine", I do not believe I actually understood a thing you said..... HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All Greek to me.
I am very thankful that Necro AND guido seem to know so much about these diabolical devices. I push "on" and I click on "internet" and that is about it. I would not know a "frag" from a "de-frag" (or a "C" frag..HA!!) and I certainly would have NO idea how to "re-install" anything!! Sad but true. I am as "low-tech" as a human can get and still be able to use a computer. I saw that my computer had automatically identified this "virus" and dealt with it. That's about it. I have "Trend Micro Antivirus", if that means anything to any of you. Apparently, it does all of this for me, which is good since I would be lost trying to follow guido's instructions! |
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..U continually amaze me....not listening tho..son says different..sorry...
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by guidogodoy from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM)| | | guidogodoy wrote: | | Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Talapia? new word to me..where from?
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| [guidogodoy] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:59:43 AM | |
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Unless you have a new fish, the word is TILAPIA.
Now, then, about all you with a virus scare. I have an easy fix...get a Mac or reformat a Windows box to Linux. I don't even have an antivirus on this Powerbook. Not needed. Oh yeah, and get rid of Internet Explorer for Foxfire, for that matter. IE died years ago.
Ona similar note, and something that may shake some beliefs to the core, it is almost unanimous amonst the tech-nerds that you don't have to defrag a harddrive. Even the most fragmented of drives, once defragmented, only show a slight improvement (if any at all) in speedtests. Furthermore, those who have your machines set to have it automatically done ever week are probably doing more damage than good. A harddrive is an electromagnetic device that has a shelf-life. They all crash, it is only a matter of "when." The more you use it (say in a needless defrag), the shorter the lifespan. Set it to defrag once a month if you are one who cannot simply "let go." To really see a speed increase, do a clean install of Windows from time to time. With partitioned drives, it isn't as time consuming as you would think.
MORNIN' all (er...a minute away from afternoon).
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:04:15 AM)| | | Necroticist wrote: | | Talapia? new word to me..where from?
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| [Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:40:30 AM | |
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you can generate electricity cleanly? hydro, nope, kills billions of trees. coal, oil, gas, well... nuclear.. the closest, except for the waste.
besides, find one electric car you can get here with
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:41 AM)| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | YOU HAVE HEARD OF ELECTRIC CARS?...OH,I FORGOT ALBERTA?,CLEAN ENERGY?,SORRY,MY BLUNDER!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here?
| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING  TAR SANDS!  ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
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| [Soylentgreen4u] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:41 AM | |
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YOU HAVE HEARD OF ELECTRIC CARS?...OH,I FORGOT ALBERTA?,CLEAN ENERGY?,SORRY,MY BLUNDER!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:22:51 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here?
| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
| | | Head banger wrote: | | so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
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| [Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:38:02 AM | |
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alrighty then, done with stupid forms, now just got to load bottles.
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| [Head banger] Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:27:15 AM | |
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carbon capture and storage, (CCS) was discussed extensivly between obama and harper on the last visit. think tectonics would be ok, given the distance to the nearest fault line.
have a great day
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Bev from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:22:43 AM)| | | Bev wrote: | | Thanks.
I'm sure there is a way to extract without further damage to the environment. I"m sure someone is researching. I wonder if there is a way to redirect back into the earth, instead of into the atmosphere without accelerating tectonic activity? hm?
I'm gone for a while.
Have a good day all!
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from memory, have never done this, but it sounds good
take half cup of corn kernals
quarter cup each of diced red pepers and red onions
1 clove garlic
saute onions till soft, add corn and pepers, saute for 2 minutes
take 2 sheets of parchment paper, use own judgment for size, see directions
fold each sheet in half. in the center of the half sheet spoon half the corn mixture. place filet on top, season with Salt and white peper.
splash of white wine on top (probably before salt)
fold paper over, and seal the seams with multiple folds
bake at 350 for 15 minutes, serve sealed, and alow the guest to open for a different presentation. or open and replate for convenience. seal should be tight, and fish and vegies steam together.
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fox, sure they have the simpsons, right? actualy my fav is the food network or tsn, but the CBC does hockey well
if we shut down the tar sands, how you gonna drive out here?
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:18:39 AM)| | | Soylentgreen4u a.k.a. theWOLFMAN wrote: | | AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
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Thanks.
I'm sure there is a way to extract without further damage to the environment. I"m sure someone is researching. I wonder if there is a way to redirect back into the earth, instead of into the atmosphere without accelerating tectonic activity? hm?
I'm gone for a while.
Have a good day all!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:16:31 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | damn must have deleted the whole recipit
from memory, have never done this, but it sounds good
take half cup of corn kernals
quarter cup each of diced red pepers and red onions
1 clove garlic
saute onions till soft, add corn and pepers, saute for 2 minutes
take 2 sheets of parchment paper, use own judgment for size, see directions
fold each sheet in half. in the center of the half sheet spoon half the corn mixture. place filet on top, season with Salt and white peper.
splash of white wine on top (probably before salt)
fold paper over, and seal the seams with multiple folds
bake at 350 for 15 minutes, serve sealed, and alow the guest to open for a different presentation. or open and replate for convenience. seal should be tight, and fish and vegies steam together.
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AWWWWWWWW COME ON HB,LAY OFF THE CBC,IT'S A GOOD NETWORK,MUST YOU BE SO NEGATIVE?,WHAT,I SUPPOSE YOU WATCH THAT IDIOT 'FOX' NETWORK!...YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING GREAT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SHUT DOWN THAT STINKING TAR SANDS! ... IF WE START GETTIN' ANY ODOUR HERE,WE'RE COMIN' OUT THERE TO CLOSE IT DOWN!
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:52:28 AM)| | | Head banger wrote: | | so, soy is waiting for the comunist broadcasting network to do the one thing they do well, hockey. anyone else got plans?
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