i guess some like myself need to listen to the album a FEEEEWWWWW times to appreciate it.

		Bev wrote:
		Persecution has emerged as one of my favorites too!  Pretty much sums it up, huh?      hellrider 31038 wrote: well i have to admit after like 6 months im starting to dig it..my favorite track MASTERPIECE on the album is persecution. under the hand of persecution defy the institution Edited at: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:16:33 PM

Persecution has emerged as one of my favorites too!  Pretty much sums it up, huh?

		hellrider 31038 wrote:
		well i have to admit after like 6 months im starting to dig it..my favorite track MASTERPIECE on the album is persecution. under the hand of persecution defy the institution Edited at: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:16:33 PM

well i have to admit after like 6 months im starting to dig it..my favorite track MASTERPIECE on the album is persecution.



under the hand of persecution

defy the institution

Nostradamus

Songs - CD 1

Dawn of creation:
Wonderful Intro. Great feeling. Sounds very spacy.
Prophecy:
If I think of "Prophecy", I think a little bit of "Fight".
A good combination in sounds of "Fight" and "Judas Priest"
The lead breaks are fantastic.

Awakening:
A real depth and width in the sound.
Revelations:
Great song. Great sound. Great voice. I loved him.
Perfect lead work. The real twin axe attack.
Perfect harmony section at the end of the song.

The four horsemen:
Pure middle ages. Where's my long bow? I'm going to war.
Brings memories of the great WCW "The four horsemen".
War:
Theatrically. The battle sounds are incredible.

Sands of time:
Yes, "Fever" (depth and width). The Choruseffect is briliant.
Rob's voice is awesome. So many feelings.
Pestilence and Plague:
Good mid-tempo song but I don't like the Italian singing parts. Glenns lead breaks are wonderful. I loved the way
he's playing this once.

Death:
It's so amazing. Unbelievable.

Peace:
I'm speechless. Awesome.
Conquest:
So on it's ok but I don't like the chorus so much.

Lost love:
Priest has better love songs. It's not my thing.
The lyrics are wonderful.

Persecution:
One of the best of this album and one of the best ever.

Songs - CD 2

Solitude:
Bring back memories of "Eulogy" again.
Exiled:
What should I say? It's difficult.
First time I can't find the right words.
The chorus is awesome.
Damned, this is one of "my" compositions - ha.

Alone:
Good old Judas Priest stuff.
Can included in many older albums.

Shadows in the flame:
I'm surprised!
Visions:
My feeds don't touch the ground. I'm not stoned
but I'm flying high.

Hope:
Sorry but it sounds like a lullaby.
New beginning:
It's sounds more like Pink Floyd then Judas Priest.
Could be on "A momentary lapse of reason".

Calm before the storm:
Back to the roots.
Nostradamus:
It's the best of this album and of course the best ever.
Pure Judas "Fucking" Priest. It sounds a little bit
like "Painkiller".

Future of mankind:
Awesome! I'm in love with this song.
Harder stuff mixed with all this emotions
and all the harmonys.

My favs:

Nostradamus
Death
Future of mankind
Persecution
Visions
Revelations
Prophecy

Bye. Michael

Took me a while to get the Nostradamus cd out here, I didn't want to download it from Itunes. I collect cds and i wanted my own copy (have about 4600). I got all the metal I need here, (that's the one thing I can't do without).  When we roll out on long missions  I take the headphones and stick them on my headset mouth piece, that way the whole crew gets educated ( we only pause it for radio chatter).
JayDee is here too?
Anyway, thanks bro.

I'd like to thank Masi73 for the post.  
I've never thought of myself as an 'armchair producer', - but I like the backhanded compliment. 

Masi73 I see you are from Miami and currently in Iraq.  
(My brother-in-law just returned - he is a sergeant from the 133rd Engineering Division)

I am a diehard Priest fan.
90% of my audio listening time is spent with Priest (incl Halford & Fight) the rest misc Heavy Metal.
Yet I do not feel Priest is infallible.  ('absence of error' or to the 'inability to err')

Nor do I feel any Company, Government, Sports team is infallible.  They can all make mistakes and have lapses in judgment.  OR make decisions that could have been avoided.But it does not change my support.
Yes I am opinionated.  So isn't everyone on this board including you.  
There is nothing wrong with that at all.  If you think about it, I we were not opinionated Otherwise we would not have message boards.Being from the U.S. you will understand this analogy:

I live in the New England Area.  We have three sports teams that have done very well recently.
The New England Patriots, Boston Red Sox and Boston Celtics.

When a bunch people FANS get together to watch a game do they ever shout out at the TV?
Do they ever yell at the TV screen in disbelief that a quarterback or coach made a call that 'clearly was not going to work’?

Of course.  It would seem ridiculous that FANS would get together then watch a game in pure silence without voicing their armchair coaching thoughts to the TV.

We all have done it during a sporting event.

Does that change our loyalty?  NOT AT ALL!

In fact it shows that we are rooting them on.  Cheering them for their success.

The Patriots had a near perfect record (Like your Dolphins did years ago).  Do you think during the season fans didn't yell at players on TV when they made bad decisions?

It is actually a show of support.

The same as when people make opinionated comments about Judas Priest and their directions.
It is a verbal show that we want the band to gain fans base and gain more recognition. - But doesn't change our support.

I still remember back when Point of Entry came out in 1981 or so.  I had just got off the Unleashed and British Steel high, and the album was initially a disapointment to me.  I expected a very heavy dose of metal and felt that the album sounded weak (on first listening).  It took a while to grow on me but now I have come to feel that Point of Entry is one of my favorites.  Anyway,  when I first heard the song Nostradamus before the album was released I was very very excited because I felt most of the album would have the typical Priest sound like that song did.  After I got the CD I again was initially disapointed for some of the same reasons as before however,  with ALL Priest works,  the latest is always different and it takes listening to it a few times for it to grow on you.  I now feel that Nostradamus is simply AWESOME!  I can't wait to see them play the entire album on a future tour similar to the Queensryche mindcrime tour last year.  All the people that are talking about cutting some of the songs out,  etc simply don't understand Judas Priest and appreciate all the work that is in this great work of art.  No it is not a typical Priest release, but once again,  every release Priest has ever done has sounded different at the time and they all have developed a life of their own.  I predict that after all the touring,  current tour and future Nostradamus exlusive tour,  Priest will then work on and release the ultimate heavy metal sounding CD which will blow away all the doubters.  That unfortunately may be their last release as they are not getting any younger, but I am sure that they will give us one more dose of the Priest we have come to know and love.  Once again I say that NOSTRADAMUS ROCKS!

Long live Judas Priest!

SHE'S NOT UGLY....ACTUALLY I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE OF HER...I GOT HER TO POP HER CLOTHES OFF AFTER SOME LOUSY FRENCH WINE.....GREAT BOD I TELL YOU....I NEVER SOLD THAT ONE THOUGH...WONDER WHAT I COULD GET FOR IT???....

		TIMBONI wrote:
		And you had to sit there painting that ugly bitch making her think she's hot so she'll sit still.  Big time props to you man !      Soylentgreen4u wrote: HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE MONA LISA??????...YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO GET HER TO SIT STILL AND PAINT THAT FU%$#@G THING!!!!!... P.S. ...JUST FOR THE RECORD,VAIL ISN'T A MAN...........OOPS!      MASI 73 wrote: The cd and all the tracks are in perfect order and harmony... You know, I love you armchair producers and musicians, you sit there passing judgement on the work of others as if you were some kind of expert. I respect the fact that all of us have opinions, but you my friend (Vaillant 3.0), are an opinionated little man. Who are you to sit there and tell this band how they should conduct their business, considering they have done a great job for over 30 years. I mean really, don't air the video, this song here, that song there... Yes, we all have opinions but you take the cake!!! The cd is a masterpiece, the arrangments are flawles and very intricate. Nothing in this world is perfect ( look at the Mona lisa, or The Last Supper), but they are still a masterpiece. So don't be so anal and enjoy the work of art others have brought to life for you to enjoy, rather than sitting there and picking it apart.  Edited at: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:59:34 PM

Maybe it's just me, but i always put the 2nd CD on first.  Exiled, Alone and Nostradamus.....awesome stuff.  The rest is damm good as well

Call me weird...

But I think Prophecy should have the name of "Nostradamus", not the more popular, faster title track. I know it sounds weird, but it makes more sense if you read the lyrics to both songs. Prophecy (lyrically at least) sounds like something that accurately describes the man better than the title song. Its written almost like Hellrider, Painkiller, Sinner, among others, in the first-person. Plus, since Prophecy gives a general idea of who Nostradamus was and what he did (and it does say, "I am Nostradamus!!"), the name change to "Nostradamus" would sound more appropriate, IMO.

I think Nostradamus is a brilliant Judas Priest Album... It is so Polished and fined tuned... Glenn and K.K. used so many different unexpected Guitar tones. Rob Halford sounds amazing and I am glad he didn't use his high pitched voice much.

But I also think Glenn and KK overdid the dramatic intros...(interludes) some songs just don't need it... Peace is not necessary, Calm before the Storm is not necessary and even songs without interludes like Death and Persecution should have started with the main riff instead of the mellow part. Classic Judas Priest masterpiece songs like SFV, Grinder, Painkiller, Rapid Fire, Hot Rockin, Freewheel Burning, Jawbreaker... they all start out fast and furious and Judas Priest needs to get back to that. agressivness. 

After reading over some reviews of A.O.R. on the JP Info Page...
I'm saying that they need to go back to the Metal they are known for.

I enjoy Nostradamus, don't get me wrong . . .
But I believe they need to get back to Heavy Metal, and forget about this orchestration . . .

IMO, but I know others agree.

Long live the Priest Beast!