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[Shadownight] Monday, October 24, 2016 5:40:16 AM 
 
[666ozzypriest666] Thursday, July 09, 2015 12:43:59 PM 
ON THIS "FANPAGE" IS ONLY THE FAMILY OF GUIDODODL; HE IS A CRIMINAL BETRAYER WHO FINDS OUT WHERE OTHER PEOPLE LIVE AND DOES NOT LEAVE THEM IN PEACE!
[Brian_Evans] Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:50:03 PM 
 
[GLORIAROMANA S.-THE QUEEN OF METAL GOD-ROB HALFORD] Thursday, January 09, 2014 1:32:54 AM 
I have Leukemia...I do not have a job so no medical inssurrance and no money for my hospitalization and treatment...I cannot be trated in my country because of our bad hospital conditions and of our bad aparatures and of the missing of medications...I do not have anybody outthere of my country to take me there into a good clinic for hospitalization and treatment...I have many regrets that one day soon i must live this world and being a fan of rock music, one of my regrets is that i will cannot meet my soul band Judas Priest,and cannot see them last show and cannot listen them last album,and also that i will cannot meet my soul musician Rob Halford,for to salute him,and for to take that autograph from him that i always dreamt and for to take good bye from him...I want to take good bye to all of you here and if some of you want to visit me at my home,you know the adress...I am waiting to die...We will see in the sky...
[Trixi] Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:28:47 AM 
 Yes, that´s right! With or without cane, he will be also very attractive and perfect up until old age!
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[Trixi] Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:23:37 AM 
 Yes, that´s right! With or without cane, he will be also very attractive and prefect up until old age!
  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by i flick my boogers from Monday, May 13, 2013 6:23:54 PM)
[i flick my boogers] Monday, May 13, 2013 6:23:54 PM 
 Rob can sing the way he wants.
any position.
doesn't matter he will always be on top in vocal talent.
[Trixi] Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:23:54 AM 

Nobody can replace Rob Halford now and in the future! Ripper wrecks the songs of Judas Priest and he is without any charisma, on the video of 2001 live in London, it is an awful video; he dresses like Rob Halford, he wants to sing like Rob Halford (he can´t), he wants to be Rob Halford with all his benefits, but he is not a quarter as good like Rob Halford!

Ripper can sing his own songs, but everyone must keep the hands off the Judas Priest songs, except Rob, these songs belongs only to the one and only Rob Halford, now and forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  [Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Rick80 from Tuesday, January 01, 2013 10:08:52 PM)
[Rick80] Tuesday, January 01, 2013 10:08:52 PM 
 You're probably right, that's a lot of lyrics to remember though.
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[Tania2194AD] Monday, December 31, 2012 5:45:41 AM 
 it's Foolish' ,man!!!!
Halford knows all lyrics from each song,he can everything,He's the best!!!
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[Rick80] Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:20:14 PM 
 I hear he leans over like that to read the lyrics off monitors, not sure if it's true or not though.
[Tania2194AD] Friday, December 07, 2012 9:07:48 AM 
thanks for comment
yeah that's true, that's right.
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[metallo] Monday, November 12, 2012 3:30:46 PM 

Agree with Tanya.Ozzy president and Halford Prime Minister.

Dickinson at the opposition


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[Tania2194AD] Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:07:22 AM 
 Halford is rock soul of heavy metal ( first but not the last)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Tania2194AD] Monday, November 05, 2012 8:38:36 AM 
 Ozzy is higher than Rob (it's not strange). Ozzy is like dad of heavy metal.  So let it be in this way: Ozzy - president, but Rob - minister.
[Carpentrov] Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:44:44 PM 
Go to loudwire.com and vote for Halford as the President of Heavy Metal!!!  Where my account is new I can't post links or post in the main topics.  He's losing to Ozzy now.  You can vote every hour!
[Carpentrov] Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:20:09 AM 

Go vote for Halford at loudwire.com !!!  He's going to lose to Ozzy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Sunday, October 07, 2012 12:31:34 PM 
I know and I never believed it. A third guitarist doesn't even make any sense.......  Thanks for the article, that was very interesting to read! And I agree, he wouldn't open himself up to a lawsuit if this weren't true. Why doesn't JP just admit it? Well, at this point I guess they would look even worse for lying about it for so long. We all know that JP wanted to go in a different direction and Dave couldn't drum that way. Dave was great for what they were doing at the time they hired him, but not the heavier stuff they wanted to do later. Enter TRAVIS

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[tasnam1] Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:51:49 AM 


Yeah I always liked reading "behind the scenes" stuff like that.

Hot Rockin' Metal Godess:  FYI - there was NOT a guitarist, just wanted to clairify.....
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[Pepe2] Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:58:14 PM 
 Well that drummer thing is explained in Neil Daniels Judas Priest book. Why they kept Dave in the band if they thought he can't play the new material properly, I don't know. People say Dave never was a good drummer but I think he was, just listen to Screaming for vengeance, could that guy play or not, I think he was a perfect drummer for Judas Priest at the time. Problems really started when it was time to record Ram it down, then again, now most people find the sound of Ram it down oddly processed, too mechanic, too cold, too eighties. Good songs, but yes, they could have done that record a bit differently, with heavier sound and more edge. Actually, that's exactly what they did with Painkiller and fans still love that record. So if Dave had some problems maybe it wasn't entirely his fault.
[guidogodoy] Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:43:07 PM 
Interesting read on #1 there, Tasnam. Thanks for posting it.

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[Pepe2] Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:30:28 PM 
And Dave is still in jail? I remember reading somewhere that he's going to write a book about it - he swears he's innocent and, well, I have a feeling he IS. That story about him doing whatever it was, I just thought, this is too strange, probably, like Dave says, a "witch hunt". I don't think Dave is a saint, far from it, but hey, I just don't believe he's guilty of what he's accused for.
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:15:21 AM 
THANKS Tasnam!! I knew about the support drumming on Turbo but had never heard anything about a support guitarist. I thought a saw an interview with Dave at one point too, but it was so long ago. I love KK's answer though, let's just leave it at that!
 As for the teleprompter, that doesn't bother me at all. And if you are up in front, you can tell Rob isn't using it as much as everyone else thinks he is because his eyes are CLOSED when he sings a lot of the time, but he definitely uses it.
Did they use drum tracks or something else for the RID tour??? If Dave needed help on the Turbo tour, he REALLY needed help during RID! I was too far back at that show to be able to tell if anything was off.

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[tasnam1] Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:13:12 AM 


The story IS:

#1   Support DRUMMER (not guitarist) on Turbo - you can check out the drummers website and letter http://www.jonathanvalen.com/judas.html
(Could this ALL be a lie?   Sure, but why go to this extent and open yourself up to a lawsuit?)

#2  KK (Not Dave) said regarding drums on RID:
Question:  "How much drumming did Dave do on RID?"
Answer: "Not a Lot; and let's just leave it at that."

#3  Memphis is Live. Period. 
Did they touch it up?  Sure.  Like most live concerts
Halford has been transparent on his solo stuff - "studio magic" to spice up the show.

#4  YES on RITE you can see ROb using the teley often.
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[hellrider 31038] Friday, October 05, 2012 7:26:17 PM 
[HOT ROCKIN' METAL GODDESS] Friday, October 05, 2012 7:23:04 PM 
Hmmmm, I'm not buying any of those rumors. BUT, the rumors about Ram It Down on the other hand, I do believe. There is NO WAY Dave did the drumming on some of those tracks. And performing some of those songs live? Yeah, I think he had a little "help" with that too. When asked how much of the drumming he did on RID, Dave responded "Not a lot". At least he was honest about it. What's your take on all this? Why would they need a secret guitar player on the Turbo tour? I didn't notice anything at the show.

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[Pepe2] Friday, October 05, 2012 1:09:57 PM 
 Hmmm... that's a strange rumour, really. I know that Unleashed in the east thing, partly live, partly studio work, I don't know what's what on that record, I think Rob has said he did all his vocals in studio. But, a concert published as VHS/DVD being a fake... why would they had done something like that, certainly they were good enough live band... sure, things were different back then, things were done in a different way, but... well, some interviewer should ask them about it, that's all I can say...
[acolyte55] Friday, October 05, 2012 12:29:19 PM 
@pepe2- watch the dvd again and maybe you can see why some people thought that, not a lot of crowd shots , and when there was it was pretty thin , again thats why they are called rumours, no drummer on unleashed in the east, the secret guitar player under the stage for the turbo tour etc.
[Pepe2] Friday, October 05, 2012 9:37:51 AM 
 Hmm? Live vengeance 82. Wikipedia says: Recorded december 12 1982, Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis, Tennessee.
[acolyte55] Thursday, October 04, 2012 4:00:11 PM 
live vengance was rumoured to have been filmed at the bands rehersals for going out on the tour , thats why it is so bang on ??
[Pepe2] Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:43:23 PM 
 Rising in the east is good but there's some special magic in Live vengeance 82, raw energy, the guys, well at least Tipton, Downing & Halford, look like they're in heavy metal heaven and really, really, REALLY enjoy the music. Glenn looks like he's in love with his guitar. And he probably was.  
[acolyte55] Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:07:37 PM 
@pepe2 iseem to remember being able to see the prompter on the centre monitor on the dvd , rising in the east
[Pepe2] Thursday, October 04, 2012 4:25:40 AM 
 Alright then and thanks for the answers. So, Rob is a "physical" singer, uses his whole body to sing, plus he may need to see the lyrics sometimes when singing, I suppose these two things together answer my question. I just remember when I saw him in concert and during the first song I actually thought that something must be wrong, why is he looking down, did he drop his contact lenses or something, hehe... but sure, his voice was just fine and I really liked the whole concert, they played about 90 minutes but I felt it was over too soon, I would have wanted more. And that's good. If a concert isn't really good, 90 minutes is MORE than enough.  
[guidogodoy] Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:20:43 AM 
Yes. He does use prompters. Like many artists with massive catalogs of music, it is public knowledge. Even the other day on Eddie Trunk, he menioned that two people should have free passes to use teleprompters: Sammy Hagar was one and I forget the second he named. I think it might have been Geddy Lee.

While not a singer, only comment I'll add is that Rob is clearly not reading off of teleprompters EVERY time when he is hunched over. I am positive it has to do with forcing air from the diaphragm to be able to still hit those powerful notes without tearing up his vocal cords. "Chest singing" vs. falsetto vs. "head singing." Any singer can tell you that singing falsetto is hard on the vocal cords and leads to early singer burn-out. While an interesting effect, Rob rarely uses it. IMO, he gets his power from the diaphragm (aka. "chest singing") and, IMO, draws more power from his stomach, back and side muscles from that position. Look at when he now hits extreme highs or lows and he accentuates that posture. Especially for longer notes.

Like I said, I am no singer. Just my thoughts on the subject from what little I know.
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[Pepe2] Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:08:27 AM 
 Rob needs to see the lyrics when he sings? Really? 

WELL. That could explain a lot. Actually, I have sometimes wondered how singers can remember all the songs they have to remember, but if they see the lyrics when they sing, then of course... 

But I'm still sure Rob doesn't need to see the lyrics to sing Hell bent for leather. He needs a Harley-Davidson to sing that song of course, but not the lyrics, hehe...
[guitardude] Wednesday, October 03, 2012 5:29:37 PM 
Center floor monitor is a teleprompter, but with as many songs as he must sing, nothing wrong with a little reminder. Would we rather him sing the wrong lines, I think not!
[tasnam1] Wednesday, October 03, 2012 4:58:23 PM 
Pepe2,

Sorry but Rob now-a-days reads most of his lyrics and remembers only a few songs.....and of course NOS would have to read 85-90%(guess) of them.
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[Pepe2] Wednesday, October 03, 2012 12:21:41 PM 
 That's a good point because some singers actually do that, read the lyrics while singing, or at least keep an eye on the lyrics in case they forget something. But Rob? No I don't think so, he writes his own lyrics and somehow I just think he remembers every word in both old & new songs. 

But If they would ever perform the whole Nostradamus in concert, then maybe Rob would need some help with the lyrics. And I would like to see that by the way, Nostradamus is a heavy metal opera and it should be performed live at least once. Like most fans I like British steel more than Nostradamus, but I still think that hearing the whole thing live would be awesome.
[acolyte55] Wednesday, October 03, 2012 11:23:12 AM 
reading the teleprompter for the lyrics..............?
[Pepe2] Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:53:05 AM 
 Hmm yes I'm sure there's a good reason for Rob's singing posture, it's probably like you said, easier to reach high notes that way. Then again, there's some other singers with unusual singing postures too. Motörhead's Lemmy. The way he sings, looking at the ceiling, is very... well, let's say, very unique. I saw Judas Priest live in 2008 and Rob sounded good, on Nostradamus he sounds good too, in my opinion, but his performing style has certainly changed over the years.
[Nupe The Ripper] Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:18:48 AM 
You can already see him leaning forwards in the Priest...Live! DVD from 1986 (particularly during Love Bites), so I guess it helps him reach high notes better, especially nowadays when his voice isn't that strong anymore.

Rob's vocal peak was relatively short, he was doing well in the late 70s but then the heavy drinking took the best edge out of his voice by the mid-80s (although he was still extremely good). But after he went sober in early 1986, he seemed pretty much from another planet on the Turbo and especially Ram It Down tour. However, by then he was nearing his forties so he started to lose a bit of his voice because of age from then on, you can already hear him struggle a bit in the Painkiller shows.
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[Pepe2] Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:10:01 PM 
 I was watching the Judas Priest DVD Live vengeance 82 and if you're reading this you already know it's a good, high energy level performance, BUT... watching it made me think about Rob Halford's current singing style. His voice is still the same, but his singing posture isn't. On Live vengeance DVD you can see Rob singing chin up and shoulders back, chest held high, and nowadays it seems he likes to sing in a leaning forwards posture. I'm not a singer myself and was wondering is there any "secret" in that. Rob of course is an unusual singer, so, an unusual singing posture kind of makes sense, but... could somebody who knows more about singing tell me a bit more about this...? 
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