theft is wrong. end of story. lots of people do it, in proportion to what they can get their hands on, is never right.
I recall reading an article on the top 16 most successful CEO's in the USA. the latest one to get up was up at 0600, was working his email by0601. the average working day was 14 hours. I couldnt deal with that. but I am sure the CEO of ford doesnt want to be the guy screwing on the left tailight on the asembly line forever. its a question of intelectual work vs physical. I am sure our CEO could do my job, probably beter than I could, but I am sure that I would screw up his job, not that I want it. being the guy who if I screwed up costs 90,000 people their jobs, not for me.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:43:49 AM)| |  | _strat_ wrote: | | Well... Many long time employees have experience and skills too, but dont get payed well. Its basicly trying to value in money something that cannot be valued in money. I dont know why leadership and bussines abilities should be worth so much more than others, when it comes to incomes, at least. I dont know exactly what type of a job you do, but I can say that the CEO of my company (I dont even know who he is, some Swiss guy probably) wouldnt know how to do my work, and Im pretty damn sure that he wouldnt want it. And thats just one side of it. What about the bussinesmen that abuse their positions and steal companies property? And Im not refering to some office equipment that I might or might have not nicked a couple of days ago. Their corruption goes in billions.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | I agree, its not a privelege, but it does in a way define you. you get known as the guy who works at ___, the guy who cant hold a job, the guy who whatever. as for the third world countries, I am greatfull that I dont live there, work like that or any of it. but, you know the managment board isnt realy a parasite. the board of directors is a group who have a ton of experience and skills, and use them to the best of their abilitys. I know that despite the fact that our CEO probably gets paid well more thatn 10 times higher than me (and I would be above the company average) I wouldnt know how to do it, nor would I want the job.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | People in 3rd world countries work for wages like we do. Only they get a lot less, work more and have less rights than we. I dont see any reason not to complain about my employment, if that is warranted (tho currently it isnt, if truth be told). Saying "look how bad they have it" and pointing at China or India, is basicly just a sophisticated way of saying "STFU and work more!"
And if anything, work is a necesity, not an honor or a privilege. I work not because it makes me feel good (because it doesnt) but because I need money, and thats the entire philosophy. As for privilege... Sitting on the managment board in a big company, being a parasite, working an hour or two every day and getting a wage 10 times higher than that of an average employee... That is privilege. Working a normal job is not a privilege. It is just something we need to do to get by.
| | | BLOOD SUCKER Esquire wrote: | | | There is nothing wrong with a solid work ethic. In fact, I'm one for believing that your work does define you. High standards and attention to detail, raising the bar for those around you, and inspiring your fellow employee. Working 9-5 makes you average. Working 845-515 makes you good. But working 8-6 makes you great. Whatever you do, you are not your job title or description. Do more than the other guy. Step in and fill in those gaps. Professionals are well-rounded in their chosen fields. And great managers know the company business from the ground up.....and are willing to step into any situation to assist should the need arise. Leaders do what the other guy won't. That defines your reputation. That defines your standard. And that defines the man. Work is an honorable trade. Most people in third world nations will never have the priviledge of working for wages. Never complain about your employment. It's a priviledge to work, not to be taken lightly in a free society. Happy Christmas to all!
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