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[_strat_] Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:22:36 AM

True, but whoever would be the attacker would have to bring the army to the enemy... And with the US navy, I think the US has the upper hand here.

Also, the defender would have an advantage. IDK. Hopefuly, we wont find out.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by Head banger from Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:16:19 AM)

Head banger wrote:

eliminate the nukes, and forget that there are losers in every war. forget economics also, just a straight up war. the ants would win. sure technology is nice, but china could field a 300 million person army if nessesary.

_strat_ wrote:

In case of US vs. China, there cant really be a winner. The US has the technology and the experience, China has numbers and an almost ant-like mentality. And both have nukes. Once China starts getting out of its borders, and acting the same way the US does (a matter of time, imo) we will have a new cold war. Pity, this time we are already choosing sides, instead of being nice and neutral like we were the last time.

Head banger wrote:

my point wasnt actualy about america, it was protectionist trade policies. I put forth that they hurt the country seeking protection just as much as those they trade with. long term, to be successfull, you need more successfull partners. is it better to get half a 8 inch pizza or a quarter of a 16 inch pizza. now remember your geometry.

BTW, do you think your armed forces could take down china if push came to shove? you could nuke eachother into oblivion, but thats lose lose. could you win?

		Deep Freeze wrote:

		OK. I am going to take a chance and assume that I have enough "friends" here to say somethings without being cyber-disemboweled... I am SO sick of all the "America-Haters" talking trash about how the big, bad United States is SO mean and forces all these poor, unsuspecting countries to trade with us and genuflect and all this other b.s! WHATEVER!! Let's get something straight right here and now; we don't NEED anyone else!! NO ONE! We can survive quite nicely without the trade of ANY other country. We are kind enough to ship good and services and AID to others and accept some of the same in return. This imaginary (yes I said imaginary) belief that we would crumble without the "rest of the world" or that we somehow "man handle" these poor little countires into accepting our "inferior" products is just plain BULLSH%$ !!!!!!!! America helps FAR more than she hurts and that is a fact. We would have NO problem slamming our doors to the rest of the world and moving along just fine but for the fact that the REST of the WORLD needs US!!!!!!! That's right! I said it!! We are the RICHEST, most POWERFUL nation on earth and that just galls some people. Well, too fu%&@$% bad!!!!!!!! I have yet to see one of these poor, oppressed and disadvantaged countries refuse an American hand out! And they won't. because they NEED us........ Just like they NEED our trade. The American worker puts out a quality product and we can compete with ANYONE, ANYWHERE! So there.

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