[Maple Syrup] Friday, February 13, 2009 10:19:20 AM
JT: Are you a drummer too? You seem to know alot about drums (drum specs wow..) in general and about the "big hard rock sound" from the 80's. You also mention the studio too...(like you know). All Im saying is Travis plays the older material with no detail and leaves out the intricate parts of the songs. Did you see Holland w/ JP live in your day or are you going off your SFV video? Also stage presence behind what? the drums?
Also, Travis has been criticized (sp?) on the last 2 JP releases: AOR & NSTRDMS "of mailing it in" in the studio on his drum playing...I'll give you Painkiller but after that....not much
Everyone has an opinion & that's whats great. [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by JT_Small_Deadly_Space from Friday, February 13, 2009 4:25:53 AM)
JT_Small_Deadly_Space wrote:
Oh man please, Holland was a great time keeper and all but he had as much stage presence as a wet fart. As for having the thump, that was down to the drum specs alone, back in the 80's kits were made with larger and deeper sized toms for a more hard rock feel, hence the intense sound of the kit on albums such as Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith. Travis uses a kit more for modern metal with a clean cut sound but is not as deep. His toms are way smaller and he uses a much smaller kit than what Holland did. But Travis plays with way more power i mean have you seen the size of him? and if you disagree, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q794_DEWOuE) should prove that point. I agree sometimes he looks bored but its because he is used to challenging himself with technical drumming from the likes of Racer X, Painkiller and Angel of Retribution. He still entertains the crowd massively with such stunts as stick throwing.. and catching, stick twirling, hand switching on some songs and interacting with the crowd. His double bass work is flawless for what he does and it puts him light years ahead of Holland. At least he manages to play songs from the Simon Philips/ Les Binks era correctly as Holland failed miserably at that i mean listen to Sinner and Victim of Changes from the Live Vengeance 82 DVD (i know Les didn't record on Sad Wings od Destiny but his version is much better than Alan Moore's) which Scott plays perfectly.
Long live Scott and the rest of the metal Gods!
Maple Syrup wrote:
ICM: Slow down on the what Priest could have been with Travis in the 80's thing. Holland was much more fluid and detailed than Travis. Listen to Travis play any of the Pre-Painkiller stuff and he does not have the thump nor does he play the parts with the same intensity as Holland. The Ripper, Desert Plains etc.. I'll take Holland anyday on the old stuff. Travis is all dry run sounding without the parts. Even when they did Devils Child on this past tour, Travis played it with no emotion like he has somewhere to go.. Do not compare the ERA's please!
MpleSyrp
icecreamman wrote:
You have to admit, if Scott was in Priest in the 80's some of their music would have been mind blowing!!!
