...I'm sorry if I seemed to come on a little strong, I can be like that sometimes...but I am not angry or anything, nor do I think you and Guido were defending him...we all have a right to be here and our opinions are what makes us different from each other...and agree or not, I do respect all opinions (or at least the person making them)...this actually is good conversation about a very real issue and what ppl from different cultures have to say about it...I truly do find that aspect of it very interesting...and you are right on the mark as far as becoming "what we are criticizing"... [Show/Hide Quoted Message](Quoting Message by paorcamp from Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:02:37 PM)
paorcamp wrote:
yes...I know what you meant...and I'm not saying you insulted him...I'm talking about us all...that's why I didn't quote your message...and I'm not trying to deffend him (for those who think I'd do it)...I just say that in the way he doesn't attack any of us we shouldn't because otherwise we become what we are criticizing...and I know he deserves what he gets for having such a nickname...but as u said...we should be tolerant until the top is reached
ronhartsell wrote:
...No one's getting on Guido in a bad way paorcamp...and I don't think I insulted the racist in any way...but just by giving yourself the name (Racist) invites ridicule...it is a negative reference and desrves what it gets...if someone is gonna put themself out there like that, then they should be ready for the stigma (good or bad) that comes with it...and NO, I don't care why he thinks the way he does...and I'll be tolerant until he becomes...how should I say this...becomes 'vocal' in promoting his views...
paorcamp wrote:
mmm...Maybe I'm wrong about this but I see guido is just being curious...he's on his right...he's just trying to learn something new...maybe the points of view and the way the racist guy thinks...we are not being fair with them so just let guido ask and the other guy answer....and that's it...even if the guy is being honest or not we all can learn something new....because if he is being honest we can try to get an idea of the way he sees things before we insult him....but if he isn't, then we can see that there's a person with some problems...maybe he was hurt in the past and now is trying to hide in a racist shadow...