I completely understand. The Princess' oldest is a major pain. He does not live with us any longer and has been thrown out of every place he has lived!  It is so very difficult because you have the love for them but there comes a point where you must say, "enough". I feel for you, man. I firmly believe that the only way to get them to fly is to push them out and make them "flap their wings". Easier said than done, I know. 

The problem with her oldest is, his dad has thrown money at him his whole life. He has not had to worry about anything. If he does not pay a bill, his dad just jumps in and does it. Car, insurance, etc. ALL paid by his dad. BIG mistake. Now we have a twenty year old child on our hands. 

   (Quoting Message by Necroticist from Friday, February 20, 2009 8:51:18 AM)

		Necroticist wrote:
		Hi there DF. No it gets harder the older he gets. Me and her ladyship got on SO well when he was off at Uni...he was only supposed to move back for a few weeks...has been years now...and the arguments!! He is so much like me it's a permanent personality clash. The day he moves out i'll throw a party...lol.      Deep Freeze wrote:   Ah Necro..aint parenthood grand?? HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a day goes by that I do not give thanks for the fact that my daughter is grown, married, has her own kids AND lives 300 miles away.....HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      Necroticist wrote:   Afternoon all - not gonna be so 'metal' today as it's 2.40 pm and i just woke up..went celebrating the son's birthday last evening, lost him, and later realised he'd yook his bike out. Stayed up til around 6 AM trying to contact the shit..  Just looked in his room - he's there, sound asleep. Now am waiting to hear from his boss why he aint at work....then when it awakes i get to do one of my famous 'dad lectures'....hehe. (Glad he's safe tho..).