yeah, costs are probably higher here, but still. after the cutbacks that would put them above the average wage in the whole country, with no training.
[Show/Hide Quoted Message] (Quoting Message by _strat_ from Friday, April 17, 2009 1:11:44 PM)| |  | _strat_ wrote: | | Ah, thats something else, then. Now, I dont know how much would be enough for an American citizen (costs of food, housing, ect... Tend to be higher there than here, I think), but if I compare it to my 4,5€ per hour (which is a good wage for someone my age), I guess that they have a lot of room for cut backs there.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | straight wage of about $25 an hour (after the cuts) plus benefits, vacation....
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | I see... Well, what kind of a wage are we talking about here?
| | | Head banger wrote: | | 90% could be replaced by robots, who would be cheaper and do beter work. the company kept caving in to the union, which got them to this situation.
dunno the wages of the managers, they took a 20% cut in managment workforce, and a 10% pay cut for the manager that stayed a while back. I say close the plants. why employ people who wont help keep the company afloat. its not like a pay cut will cause these fools to starve, they earn more than most managers do.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Well, yes, but thats the cost of their work without which, the company wouldnt even exist.
Now, maybe they should take some of the burdain on themselves, but then again... What are the wages of the managers? Its kinda hard for them to accept wage cuts, if the management wont give up their fleets of Ferraries.
| | | Head banger wrote: | | Strat, these people cost more than an engineer, to do basic asembly work. their cost (and the way the union prevents higher quality) is a main reason the company has no money. to sugest that they should not help keep the company from going bankrupt is nonsense. they can keep what they have and the company has no choice but to close down. I would just say screw it at this point if I ran chrysler, and file for chapter 7. liquidate and let some one else posibly buy the factory and deal with this stupidity.
| | | _strat_ wrote: | | Hmm... Sounds like a typical extortion. Accept lower wages, or get fired. Of course the unions are against it. Thats what theyre there for.
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