Posers eh? Dude WTF? It's fine if you don't like Winger, but calling them posers is just plain wrong. They're all great musicians. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. There is a reason why they were called the glam version of Dream Theater.

Reb Beach is a guitar virtuoso. That man is up there with Eddie Van Halen, KK Downing, Glenn Tipton and George Lynch. You don't believe me? Check it out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8q0Mb_uOG8 This man is a class act and you can't deny that after watching that video. 

Kip Winger himself is one of the greatest rock n' roll singers of the 1980's. He played bass on several Alice Cooper records. Is Alice Cooper a poser too?

Rod Morgenstein is a great drummer. He's plays the drum kit left handed like it's nothing. He's a professor teaching percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston. You might not like the man, but he's no poser.

Look dude, we all have our own tastes, but you should really loosen up and stop talking like a fundamentalist. It's okay if you don't like certains bands and certain genres, but calling four stellar musicians posers is just childish. I mean: I'm really not into Schubert's music, but I will never call the man a poser, because it is so obvious that he was a very gifted musician.

		J.D. DIAMOND wrote:
		Sorry Craig,but "Winger" is nowhere near a rock band,they are a bunch of posers who got lucky in the big hair era of commercialism and I'm not saying that you shouldn't like it,I'm just saying that this thread is a "Classic heavy metal album" thread....not a haven for such glam bands as "Winger".  You notched down my Running Wild post a couple of notches for freakin' "Winger"?  Couldn't you of posted this somewhere else besides a "CLASSIC HEAVY METAL THREAD"?  I would for one,appreciate it alot more if you would of,not trying to start a fight with you Craig.... I am a passinate heavy metal fan and I mean "TRADITIONAL CLASSIC HEAVY METAL FAN" like our elite forum member 'HELLRIDER"......and "Winger " is an "insult" to this thread.      Craig Wagenhoffer wrote: My classic metal album of the day: Okay, no respectable metalhead alive in 1988 would admit they liked this obvious attempt at pop metal. I know I never did. But to tell the truth, while everybody, including myself, was mocking this album, I was secretly rocking it in my car at maximum levels. LOL! While there is no doubt that Winger's debut is pop metal to the maximum, it's really not that bad. It’s actually quite enjoyable. Winger featured four stellar musicians, especially Reb Beach. Nobody can deny that Reb was one of the best guitar players of the 1980’s. That guy had tons of talent.