I think you hit the nail on the head there.  only with rob are they something special.  its not rob that makes them special, its the combination.  Rob, Glen, KK and Ian (with many drummers) have proven themselfs to be special.  with tim, they are ok, but its not the same.

		Angelic Storm wrote:
		I would agree with you that Nostradamus isn't classic Priest. Well, some songs I would place in that category, but not the whole album. Priest have always been about pushing the boundaries though, and being unpredictable. And in that sense, Nostradamus IS classic Priest, because it continues in that tradition. I dunno how you can use that as an arguement though, when neither Jugulator or Demolition are classic Priest either. I love both albums, but they are not classic Priest. I am a Priest fangirl, I wouldnt deny that, especially when it comes to Priest with Halford. But I still appreciate the Ripper albums very much. Halford however, is and always will be, the definitive voice of Priest, and only with him in the band are they something truly special.      Numero Uno wrote:   Nostradamus is not classic Judas Priest to the highest extent.  There are very few "TRUE PRIEST FANS" that will agree with you on that. II'm not trying to start anything but its just a fact that Nostradamus is not classic Priest. I'm sure some of the fanboys and girls around here like J.D. Diamond and spapad will come running to the rescue (LOL!)but I would say most fans will disagree with you.    (Quoting Message by B Dharma from Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:57:50 PM)   B Dharma wrote:   You are OBVIOUSLY not a TRUE PRIEST FAN to state these opinions.. ROB HALFORD IS JUDAS PRIEST and NOSTRADAMUS is classic JUDAS PRIEST to the highest extent.. Tim Owens was a sufficient replacement but not an interesting and diverse enough vocalist to carry on the PRIEST tradition.. If you are not enjoying NOSTRADAMUS I feel sorry for you... Tim has great range but IS NOT PRIEST...    (Quoting Message by Numero Uno from Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:15:10 PM)   Numero Uno wrote:   They should have stuck with Ripper. At least for one more CD anyway. I think the third cd with Ripper would have been more traditional Priest sounding Metal. Much better than this Nostradamus stuff. Angel Of Retribution was ok but had a lot of filler material in my opinion. Nothing special.  The cover art is one of their best though.   (Quoting Message by tshoffie from Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:06:35 PM)   tshoffie wrote:   After seeing priest tonight in Tampa  i am starting to think that maybe  they should get Ripper back, i had no problem with his vocals in fact i think he was very good...Rob tonight seemed very very slow  kept his head down all the time when he was singing as if he was reading from a teleprompter..he just didnt seem to have any energy at all..the rest of the band however were like they always have been...also it didnt help that the setlist was very dissappointing as well Edited at: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:18:33 PM Edited at: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:58:25 PM Edited at: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:02:48 PM