Well, proving that he doesnt exist is, imo... Pointless. Religion comes forward with the claim that there is a god - religion has to prove that there is. So long as it doesnt, we can consider god as non-existent. If we are going to play the "prove that isnt so game", then we can all think of tons of outrageous stuff that cant be proven, but cant even be properly disproven. I think that it was Dawkins who came up with the idea of the "flying spaghetti monster". Lets say that I claim that god is a flying spaghetti monster - prove that he isnt. I can claim that a giant chicken laid an egg, and that became the Earth. Prove that isnt so. If I really believe it, you wont be able to convince me that it isnt so, neither will I be ever capable of proving that it is so. 

So, "prove that isnt so" logic clearly wont get us anywhere. Sorry, didnt mean to insult anyones religious feelings, the giant chicken and the spaghetti monster are there just to sort of illustrate the point.

And, so long as there are people who are not content with just being religious, but insist that we should all share their religious values, and want to make those same values into laws and constitutions, then I think that we really should know wheter they are right or wrong in their faith.

		ron h wrote:
		Hello I.M.P., I don't believe we've met, though I do enjoy reading your posts!! HB, very interesting question!! I think a lot along the same lines I.M.P. does, however if God exists, that doesn't neccesarily mean science could prove his existence.  There are many many other physical things out there that science is aware of and still can't explain...google dark matter!!!  And even though science can't prove he exists, can they prove he doesn't??  NO!!  Granted, religion is based on blind faith and not fact...but do we really have to have all the answers??  I don't want to know half the stuff I already do know lol    (Quoting Message by I.M.P. from Friday, August 21, 2009 1:53:57 AM)   I.M.P. wrote:   In the quest for knowledge and fact, toes are bound to be stepped on.  Especially the toes of those who hold onto beliefs not based in fact...  Science and religion are in conflict so long as religion stands in the way of science.  The fact that there are religious scientists points to the fact that they are not necessarily in conflict. If there were a scientific way to prove God existed, I'm sure scientists would discover it, publish the findings for all to see, and celebrate.  The main goal in science is to establish fact.      Head banger wrote:   are religion and science nesesarily in conflict? Edited at: Friday, August 21, 2009 6:15:09 AM